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[QUOTE=VonderJohn;1926870]Thank you for the details. I know what you mean. Cialis gives you a boost and allows you to re-fuck in less time.

I checked their website (thank you downandup) and they clearly explained that it is a medicine to treat ED, and appears to be suited for 35+ year old who have ED.

Since I am 30 and do not have ED, I don't feel comfortable taking Cialis. I prefer becoming more physically active and eating healthy as this would naturally improve my sexual performance.

But if I ever get ED or feel the need for a boost in the future, I will consider it, and will remember you! LOL.[/QUOTE]Well I am 36, so I am entitled to use this rocket booster LOL.

I love it when my penis is pumped up like it is about to burst. The feeling of sex is so different and so as the cum shooting up once again like when I was 16 years old LOL.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1927061]Testeosterone and the T / E Ratio. Don't forget that long term Cialis use has been shown to significantly improve the all-important testosterone to estrogen ratio by an average of 24%. A one year study of males with an average age of 54 showed an increase in testosterone of 5. 5% and a decrease in estrogen of 15%. These are significant numbers and show the power of getting "back in the sack". Remember that the 24% increase means you have significantly more testosterone molecules floating around versus estrogen, almost always a good thing for us guys.[/QUOTE]Interesting study. Can you provide a link to it?

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1927191]Interesting study. Can you provide a link to it?[/QUOTE]All are not 100% proven, but I feel these studies are quite solid ones, they are not just messing about and bit like Aspirin, Cialis seems to have many good side effects that has been shown in various experiments that are quite promising, but not 100% proven yet. I become very horny while on cialis.

As for Testosterone, I work out 2 times per week, I walk daily and I take cold water shower after hot water everyday.

Here is the link to my previous post buddy:

[URL]http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Cialis_Long_Term.aspx[/URL]

Increase of testosterone levels are allways good yes. But a 15% decrease of estrogen levels are not allways good. If I understands this right, it makes us look older, slimmer face and gives us more wrinckles?

You really can't trust information on these dodgy body building sites. They cherry pick information and present it in a way that suits their agenda.

In this case the noted study was a *pilot study* which is by definition a study used not to come to a final conclusion, but rather to anticipate the size of the actual later study required to achieve statistical significance.

In addition the authors of the pilot study note it's the testosterone / estrogen ratio that is made greater, and that's due to the reduction of estrogen rather than an increase in testosterone.

It is speculated that it's not that Cialis directly impacts testosterone / estrogen levels, but rather that it restores sexual function, and having sex in turn changes those levels.

I'm not sure what this testosterone obsession is about. Cialis improves the ability to have an erection, and that's really all you can hope it will do. Isn't that enough?

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1927267]You really can't trust information on these dodgy body building sites. They cherry pick information and present it in a way that suits their agenda.

In this case the noted study was a *pilot study* which is by definition a study used not to come to a final conclusion, but rather to anticipate the size of the actual later study required to achieve statistical significance.

In addition the authors of the pilot study note it's the testosterone / estrogen ratio that is made greater, and that's due to the reduction of estrogen rather than an increase in testosterone.

It is speculated that it's not that Cialis directly impacts testosterone / estrogen levels, but rather that it restores sexual function, and having sex in turn changes those levels.

I'm not sure what this testosterone obsession is about. Cialis improves the ability to have an erection, and that's really all you can hope it will do. Isn't that enough?[/QUOTE]Well Cialis do not have side effect that are lethal except for those with heart conditions.

As for tolerance, I think spot use consecutively for like week or two or even a month or two can be OK, but I think one should always take break in between, other wise body can get used to it.

[QUOTE=Pistons;1927259]Increase of testosterone levels are allways good yes. But a 15% decrease of estrogen levels are not allways good. If I understands this right, it makes us look older, slimmer face and gives us more wrinckles?[/QUOTE]Slimmer face is trend, it will make us look like pro athlete face or at least Zoolander LOL.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1927267]You really can't trust information on these dodgy body building sites. They cherry pick information and present it in a way that suits their agenda.

In this case the noted study was a *pilot study* which is by definition a study used not to come to a final conclusion, but rather to anticipate the size of the actual later study required to achieve statistical significance.

In addition the authors of the pilot study note it's the testosterone / estrogen ratio that is made greater, and that's due to the reduction of estrogen rather than an increase in testosterone.

It is speculated that it's not that Cialis directly impacts testosterone / estrogen levels, but rather that it restores sexual function, and having sex in turn changes those levels.

I'm not sure what this testosterone obsession is about. Cialis improves the ability to have an erection, and that's really all you can hope it will do. Isn't that enough?[/QUOTE]A very well written and logical critique. Thumbs up.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1927279]As for tolerance, I think spot use consecutively for like week or two or even a month or two can be OK, but I think one should always take break in between, other wise body can get used to it.[/QUOTE]I'll say this one more time. There is NO tolerance developed when using Cialis. Please stop posting misleading information.

Cialis as a drug only changes blood flow. It does not, as a drug, create arousal. Even with Cialis you also need a source of arousal for things to happen.

It's possible that for some, along with the drug effect, the act of taking Cialis is itself psychologically arousing. In such a case it wouldn't be entirely surprising if that psychological arousal response would diminish over time. That's not developing a tolerance to Cialis. It's a kind of diminishing returns to a source of psychological arousal.

Perhaps that's what you are experiencing. Whatever it is, it's not from a Cialis related drug tolerance.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1927279]
As for tolerance, I think spot use consecutively for like week or two or even a month or two can be OK, but I think one should always take break in between, other wise body can get used to it.[/QUOTE]The study you referenced was about [B]un[/B]interrupted use of cialis.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1927834]The study you referenced was about [B]un[/B]interrupted use of cialis.[/QUOTE]That is good thing as I only do interrupted use of cialis and it seems there is no tolerance on me!

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;1927791]I'll say this one more time. There is NO tolerance developed when using Cialis. Please stop posting misleading information.

Cialis as a drug only changes blood flow. It does not, as a drug, create arousal. Even with Cialis you also need a source of arousal for things to happen.

It's possible that for some, along with the drug effect, the act of taking Cialis is itself psychologically arousing. In such a case it wouldn't be entirely surprising if that psychological arousal response would diminish over time. That's not developing a tolerance to Cialis. It's a kind of diminishing returns to a source of psychological arousal.

Perhaps that's what you are experiencing. Whatever it is, it's not from a Cialis related drug tolerance.[/QUOTE]Well I know, you told me and I read that in several sites.

However, it was same thing with Arginine, there is no tolerance.

But in reality, at least on me, it did have some tolerance and I stopped it now.

I began spot using all these things and this way, it seems to work fine for me as super booster as my body react almost in surprising way as long as I spot use them.

It is good thing to know that these things has no tolerance, but I never believe fully what medicine companies says, so I mostly spot use these things to boost things up as I do feel intensity in arousal as my penis is totally enlarged about to burst and I love to cum with such a burst up penis as I feel more arousal somehow.

However, this is my personal experience based on my body, each their own.

Please stop discussing about viagra for a moment and answer me other things so far and give me an opinion where to go next.

I still have 6 free entry tickets to Oase at Fra and I would like to give Sharks another try again. There are also interesting club nearby, Saunaclub Bahamas and probably even FKK Dietzenbach for example.

But I see more options in NRW and I really like clubs like LR and GT so far. And there are much more.

FRA Sharks - Oase - Bahamas vs. NRW - GT - LR - Babylon?

[QUOTE=Guy93;1928400]Please stop discussing about viagra for a moment and answer me other things so far and give me an opinion where to go next.

I still have 6 free entry tickets to Oase at Fra and I would like to give Sharks another try again. There are also interesting club nearby, Saunaclub Bahamas and probably even FKK Dietzenbach for example.

But I see more options in NRW and I really like clubs like LR and GT so far. And there are much more.[/QUOTE]Sounds like your doing your tour using public transportation when you mention small clubs like Bahamas. My tours focus on the main clubs like Oase, Sharks, World, Mainhattan, Samya, GT, LR and Aca. I'll rarely hit smaller clubs since I risk being bored to death in a tiny club. You might also consider visiting Mainhattan, heading out in the evening for a bit to check out the red light district and then head back to Mainhattan for a late dinner.