Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

[QUOTE=NiteRiderCal;2582150]Murse,

Can you please get a job at the FDA and implement your standard on safety and efficacy? Everything would be approve and my stock option would make me a billionaire.[/QUOTE]It's a pandemic and it was emergency use.

Attempts to manipulate lay people with incomplete science and loose associations while trying to pass familiarity with expertise did not go unnoticed to a better trained eye. Your tactics on this matter may pass at a local bar, but professionals can sniff the bullshit right away.

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2582103]You're right.

Three fucked up beyond any chance of salvation.

At least two really close to join them in fantasy world.[/QUOTE]I have a different scenario. One maybe two autism spectrum disorders. Others are just angry dorks.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2581864]In a way we are lucky that UK will now experiment what happens in a country with 50% vaccination rate that completely opens up and has a high number of new cases. First they experimented what happens if you focus on as many first doses as possible (seemed to work OK until Delta showed up). The rest of Europe gets to watch for about 2 months what will happen. Thank you BoJo.[/QUOTE]No need to wait for UK. Look no further than the USA today. We're at similar vax rates without the single vax variable. We've been basically wide open for 4 months. The least vaxxed states top the list of states with highest incidence. 99% of 7 day rolling deaths and 97% of 7-day rolling hospitalizations. Mind you the total deaths and hospitalizations remain relatively low. Most elderly are fully vaxxed. They remain protected from mortality. Most severe cases are in the 40-60 unvaxxed demographic. Not many intubated patients compared to winter highs.

US states such as Louisiana, Alabama, Missouri, Mississippi, and Arkansas are major American hot spots. Their average vaxxed rates are at the bottom of the nation. The well vaxxed states seeing some uptick are densely populated states with large areas of unvaxxed young people such as New Jersey, California, and Florida. Coincidentally, mortality in the latter states is obviously lower.

The Mayo clinic trackers provides infographics that tells the story.

Cases per 100.000:

[URL]https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/map[/URL]

Vaccination rates:

[URL]https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-tracker[/URL]

I may be too optimistic but I think the situation in the US paints an optimistic future. Old are vaxxed. Young will get sick but acuity / severity will remain low for them.

At this point, Pushing vaccination will get diminishing returns on the remaining unvaxxed population. I would even push for exploring less effective but perhaps more accepted prophylaxis options like Ivermectin such as NorCalRite suggested.

In the mean time, the most at risk population (although relatively low acuity) is currently unvaxxed males over 40. Amongst the ones without major comorbidities, mortality will be low; but I'm guessing an average 10 days of lost productivity / recreation. For nations that are in similar situations to the US, I think it's now a fine time to let her rip, open everything up, and live with the much more acceptable worst case scenario (low death, mostly middle aged unvaxxed men losing a bit of productivity).

COVID will fizzle in a slow, agonizing, anti-climatic fashion. No point in pushing vax any longer. Those who want it already have gotten it.

As such, one must live with the consequences of one's actions: "If he dies, he dies". -Ivan Drago.

[QUOTE=Kartoffel;2581732]Sorry but he has no balls, these upselling girls should go work in apartments, not in our clubs![/QUOTE]% Sharks thread, out of context here.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2581864]In a way we are lucky that UK will now experiment what happens in a country with 50% vaccination rate that completely opens up and has a high number of new cases. First they experimented what happens if you focus on as many first doses as possible (seemed to work OK until Delta showed up). The rest of Europe gets to watch for about 2 months what will happen. Thank you BoJo.[/QUOTE]Israel already mass vaxxed it's population and opened up months ago, only to impose more restrictions again:

[URL]https://youtu.be/kxRS6qUiDDM[/URL]

Thank you Big Pharma and Big Tech!

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2582050]Oh, but you do care, you responded. And you will respond to this post as well telling how much you don't care.[/QUOTE]I keep on living how I decide, nobody here can change my own personal subjective choices when I m not a follower, trying to make my life enjoyable and also for my real sports for my holidays, even had to delay on sad 3 July I finished at Globe after driving 5 hours from Iseran and real nightmare on Autumn 14 July.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2582097]You don't seem to have much faith in the vaccine, when will be the time to actually live life instead of just surviving according to you? Never?

[URL]https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55274833[/URL][/QUOTE]I have faith in data and science. I don't have to be in Earth orbit to say "OK, I saw with my own eyes, the earth is not flat". So far, studies and data say that _fully_ vaccinated people have a significantly smaller risk of getting sick. Before Delta, one dose was already reducing the risk a good deal, with Delta you need two doses. BTW, this scenario was discussed even last year in the spring, so no big surprise here. At least before Delta, the transmission risk was significantly reduced too. My understanding is that the viral load of Delta is 1000 higher, which definitely impacts transmission risk. The longer the virus infects large number of people, the higher the chance of new variants.

My current position is, in North America and Europe all 40+ had the chance to be vaccinated, in a lot of countries even all 18+ had that chance. Who is not yet vaccinated is because they chose that. I haven't followed UK that closely, but I don't see reports that the hospitals are getting full now. So in my opinion, they can lift the restrictions since under 40 have a very low risk of severe cases. Other countries now look at UK and see what will happen locally 2 months later. In Switzerland the only restrictions are masks in shops and public transit.

If new data comes out reported by reputable sources, I am OK to change my position.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2582139]I am watching Amazon, Disney, Netflix and HBO as well. Anything can happen. It is all up the people with the scripts![/QUOTE]I thought you are the guy who has advanced access to these scripts.

[QUOTE=ShooBree;2582095]BTW, you're aware that they have a maximum tax rate of 15 % in Russia? Sounds like communism to me lmfao! You're living in the past, like an outdated geezer.[/QUOTE]You are right, Russia is not communist country now. It is an authoritarian state with the head of state changing the constitution at will so he can stay in power as long as he wants, he is in power since 2000, now he can stay in power until 2036. This is the guy who has no problem invading neighbouring countries.

[QUOTE=DrPoon;2582159]What is a person from the USA gets a positive covid test whilst in Germany?

Then according to the CDC one's test can remain positive for over 3 months. Even longer if a severe case for an unvaccinated person.

During this time apparently cannot return to the USA and stuck in Germany unable to enter clubs and unable to rent hotel and plus probably run out of money.[/QUOTE]Correct on all counts except the money because obviously you don't run out of money after just 3 months of living on the streets.

[URL]https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/germany-opens-to-us-tourists[/URL]

So. Is it a good idea to book now for December?

[QUOTE=Pistons;2581718]The entire covid debacle is just a waste of focus. A mind trick at most.[/QUOTE]Vladimir Putin fell fell hook, line, and sinker for it. You know he thinks Russians (and morons from other countries) are nihilists, don't you. That is no term of endearment BTW.

[URL]https://www.reuters.com/world/kremlin-says-nihilism-low-vaccination-rate-behind-fresh-covid-19-surge-2021-06-18/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2582212]No need to wait for UK. Look no further than the USA today. ... Those who want it already have gotten it.

As such, one must live with the consequences of one's actions: "If he dies, he dies". -Ivan Drago.[/QUOTE]In US the numbers didn't jump as fast as in UK. But yeah, time to let it rip.

[QUOTE=Kartoffel;2582264]% Sharks thread, out of context here.[/QUOTE]Sorry mate, he pollutes a lot of threads. At least this one is the rants thread, so I don't mind here. It's worse when he posts about Samya in 2014 in the Globe thread.

[QUOTE=HammerTime96;2582279]Israel already mass vaxxed it's population and opened up months ago, only to impose more restrictions again:

[URL]https://youtu.be/kxRS6qUiDDM[/URL]

Thank you Big Pharma and Big Tech![/QUOTE]You nihilist. Listen to Daddy Vladdy!