Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2888016]With all the reports of the uptick in violence especially druggings are you guys moving differently when it comes to meeting girls from online sites like facebook, photoprepagos, seeking, tinder etc?

Would you guys recommend only going to strip clubs and brothels and if you want to bring a girl back to your place get their number from one of these establishments and do it that way or not? What are you guys doing to safe guard yourself in 2024 and beyond in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Strip clubs and brothels are not my thing anymore. I used to frequent Fase dos and La Isla back then, but not anymore. Quality of girls went downhill and way overpriced. I just stick to massage Spas with FS.

Seeking and online (PasionPrepagos) is also my go to now. I picked up girls in LLeras every now and then, but very minimum.

For the safety measures, I just require the girls to come to me all the time. They will have their identification and photo recorded on where I'm staying at. These two pieces of information alone is enough for them to think twice if they happen to have bad intentions to you. I'd also recommend tipping the security staff and befriending them. They are the ones that will always look out for you.

Also, using a local Colombian number for your burner phone is a clutch. As soon as the girls know you have +1 (US phone number) on your WhatsApp, you will become an easy target and she can get you setup. Last one will be, learn Spanish.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2887906] Whenever I am traveling and I mention to someone that I live in Colombia, more often than not they ask me "is it safe?" My stock response is "it's a city of two million plus people so crime is a problem and you have to take precautions. " The real answer is of course that yes it is safe for some and no it is not safe for some others.[/QUOTE]To you it's all in your hands until you run out of luck. Truth is that Colombia has very weak law enforcement and judicial systems thus criminals thrive. Medellin, though not the most dangerous city in the world, is much more dangerous than many other large cities. The locals will all tell you it is dangerous. It's only some foreigners, and especially some posting online that say otherwise.

P.S. Comparisons to cities like Chicago will always remain invalid as, for example murder stats in cities like that are inflated by gang violence in certain areas of town and are neither here nor there to expats and tourists.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2887976]I heard of something called pattaya flying club where people self delete from there.[/QUOTE]Probably an accident half the time though with the crazy way shit is built. Add in alcohol and. My balcony only comes to the middle of my thigh. So if there is talk about me joining a flying club without an airplane then you know it was not on purpose.

[QUOTE=Bill;2887982]The average Medellin citizen does not like the idea of sex tourism. There is a reason why some rentals post " no sex tourists".

I speculate they saw a vulnerable gringo. They vented, told him to jump then he did.

Some of us could learn a little about respecting the country and residents of destinations we visit?[/QUOTE]Where did it say that he was a sex tourist?

This is pretty solid advice. Be advised however that doormen can work for you or against you and it doesn't have so much to do with tipping. In other words, tipping can help improve service for things like food deliveries as well as protection from misbehaving visitors but, and this is a big but, you should never assume doormen would not get into cahoots with potential robbers. Trust me, it happens.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2888115]Strip clubs and brothels are not my thing anymore. I used to frequent Fase dos and La Isla back then, but not anymore. Quality of girls went downhill and way overpriced. I just stick to massage Spas with FS.

Seeking and online (PasionPrepagos) is also my go to now. I picked up girls in LLeras every now and then, but very minimum.

For the safety measures, I just require the girls to come to me all the time. They will have their identification and photo recorded on where I'm staying at. These two pieces of information alone is enough for them to think twice if they happen to have bad intentions to you. I'd also recommend tipping the security staff and befriending them. They are the ones that will always look out for you.

Also, using a local Colombian number for your burner phone is a clutch. As soon as the girls know you have +1 (US phone number) on your WhatsApp, you will become an easy target and she can get you setup. Last one will be, learn Spanish.[/QUOTE]

Some reporting indicates that the Lithuanian was traveling with his mother. At any rate, I agree it's very good advice to be discreet at all times. All the same there is no justification for encouraging a troubled person to take their own life. With all due respect, I'm very disappointed to see this sort of projection.

[QUOTE=Bill;2887982]The average Medellin citizen does not like the idea of sex tourism. There is a reason why some rentals post " no sex tourists".

Simply, many don't like outspoken, cocky, shorts and flip flop wearing working girl mongers throwing money around and raising prices.

"Fly under the radar or risk getting shot down".

I speculate they saw a vulnerable gringo. They vented, told him to jump then he did.

Some of us could learn a little about respecting the country and residents of destinations we visit?[/QUOTE]

Nowhere did it say that. There is an Internet trend of adapting any popular content to project a point of view whether or not it has anything to do with the actual events.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2888197]Where did it say that he was a sex tourist?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2888177]P.S. Comparisons to cities like Chicago will always remain invalid as, for example murder stats in cities like that are inflated by gang violence in certain areas of town and are neither here nor there to expats and tourists.[/QUOTE]Against my better judgement, I'm going to jump in on this one. "Itemizing" crime rates against one another is foolish. Just like a 5 year old in Chicago is caught in the crossfire in "gang violence", a gringo could likewise be caught up in a turf war in Medellin. I'm not saying you are way off base. But I'd say your speculative numbers are more invalid than an apples to apples comparison.

That said, your speculation could be correct. However neither of us have valid data to draw that conclusion. Frankly, I suspect neither Medellin nor Chicago have reliable data to make that comparison. There are too many variables.

Was looking through the forum for updated information in advance of my return to Medellin in a week. Was struck by a couple things.

First, I checked the exchange rate and noticed it's much lower than the last time I went. Which made me check further and I realized I was literally in Medellin at the all time high for USD to COP! So looks like everything's 20 percent higher this time. Not complaining. I view it more good fortune the first time than bad fortune the second time.

Second, there's been all this discussion of danger in Medellin. One thing I never see get brought up in terms of safety in addition to watching your drinks, building security, not going into certain areas late at night, not flashing expensive items etc. Is looking for a digital trail in who you see. It seems like a lot of people have figured out not to use Tinder in specific because you don't know who the people are as well but I'd apply the same logic to using Facebook. No matter how attractive, if all I see from a woman is a bunch of profile picture changes, I'm not contacting her. I look for women that have a lot of posts and seem to be interacting with other people in a real way. Most of all, if there's a photo of her with a bunch of friends or better yet a family, that seems a much, much safer bet to me than someone who only has photos of herself. Those are people that know her and if she's been on Facebook for 3 years and there's a bunch of other people there that have met her in real life, I think she's substantially less likely to try to drug and kill people given she's going to recognize it's not that hard to locate her and she's not trying to be secretive about who she is. Not foolproof but nothing is and it's something that makes me more confident in addition to the fact security takes down the girl's cedula and I'm still locking up valuables and watching my drinks.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2888198]This is pretty solid advice. Be advised however that doormen can work for you or against you and it doesn't have so much to do with tipping. In other words, tipping can help improve service for things like food deliveries as well as protection from misbehaving visitors but, and this is a big but, you should never assume doormen would not get into cahoots with potential robbers. Trust me, it happens.[/QUOTE]Never happened to me yet. But I always make sure to build a relationship with the doorman and sometimes you can always tell or your gut instinct will let you know if something is up. Picking a good location with a lot of good reviews will always help.

"I saw a couple of videos. People in the crowd were absolutely yelling at him to jump. I don't understand that mentality. ".

Maybe if he landed on someone yelling jump, that would discourage that from.

Happening in the future after people would also see that in the video.

[QUOTE=ElSexoChino7;2888262]Never happened to me yet. But I always make sure to build a relationship with the doorman and sometimes you can always tell or your gut instinct will let you know if something is up. Picking a good location with a lot of good reviews will always help.[/QUOTE]I've yet to decide where to stay in my quickly approaching trip because I agonize over things such as these. I've been going into the archives here in my spare time and creating a list which, is short at the moment.

A couple that I've run across with previous mention here are: Orange Suites Medellin, Hotel Selis, and of course, The Mansion.

What places have you stayed, what were the pros and cons of those places? Feel free to PM, I'd love to compile the suggestions and perhaps make it into the "links to reports of distinction" thread.

The location I'm looking for is preferrably $100/ night or less, has a check in program, and not so close to the party that sleeping will be difficult.

One of you residents take me up on my offer of free beer, please (2/4-2/10). Thanks.

I visited Medellin last week (work trip). I was hoping I'd get a few hours away from my colleagues, but I guess it was a team building trip, so we literally did everything together for 6 days. Anyway. . . Just a word or two about the area.

I stayed at a hotel in El Poblado area. A Marriot hotel. In my case, I needed to do something safe / nearby / discreet. From my perspective, the options were:

1. Jade Palace (probably a 15 min walk). Uber would be quite reasonable and well worth the price. It's hot. I don't recall the rates, but they were pretty cheap compared to the legit spas.

2. Rio Sur Mall (OM Spa for Men). Will be pricey. Expect to pay 500000 COP if you want a legit massage and full service.

3. I looked on [URL]Mileroticos.com[/URL] and found plenty of escort options, but I was just too nervous to pull it off. My hotel had a security guard at the ground floor entrance. It would have felt funny to try to sneak an obvious escort in. It looks like some of the escorts host in the El Poblado area (Near the park in El Poblado (Calle 10)). I was just too nervous going into an apartment, alone.

My Columbian colleagues told me that it's safe, but if you look like you're a foreigner (which I do), you might be targeted to get robbed in the evening. They said that guys / gangs actively look for tourists leaving nice restaurants / hotels and following them. I was there for 6 days and we walked El Poblado a whole lot. Not once did I feel unsafe. . . . but. . . We were with Columbians and travelled in a large group. At one point, I told the group I was going to walk back to the hotel (4 blocks) at 9 pm and they advised against it. I think I would have been fine, but what do I know. I'm always aware of my surroundings (even at home).

When I was in the hotel elevator, I said 'Hola' to the other person and he told me (sternly) "You don't speak Spanish to me". So there's an element that certainly hates tourists. Truth be told, I hate tourists in my town too, so I can't blame him.

I 'm a little disappointed I didn't get to give it a try, but I wanted to contribute to the forum and thank those that took the time to help me.

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[QUOTE=Paulie97;2888177]To you it's all in your hands until you run out of luck. Truth is that Colombia has very weak law enforcement and judicial systems thus criminals thrive. Medellin, though not the most dangerous city in the world, is much more dangerous than many other large cities. The locals will all tell you it is dangerous. It's only some foreigners, and especially some posting online that say otherwise.

P.S. Comparisons to cities like Chicago will always remain invalid as, for example murder stats in cities like that are inflated by gang violence in certain areas of town and are neither here nor there to expats and tourists.[/QUOTE]The weak law enforcement was the biggest thing for me during the two crimes that I've been a victim of (apartment robing when out and then being drugged and robbed). I had information on the suspects and even some pics, but cops wouldn't do anything.

As someone from Chicago I also have to agree there. The situation is very unfortunate there, and safety unequal. The murder rate on the leafy Northside is 3 per 100,000 and then you have the West Side around Garfield Park and near South Side where it's 120+ per 100,000 . As dangerous as Tijuana.