Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1323565]Just as an example close to us (ISG) with no intention to flame, since you are close to Annie's business and since it is well known the visitors to BKK (and I assume the mongerers too) are decreasing, can you explain the raise in prices of Annie' from the 1700 of a couple of years ago to the current 2500? That is nearly 50. Supply / demand? Oil prices? US real estate failure? 2009 global are ecession?[/QUOTE]There was no increase in price, it was an increase in choice at the start.

As 99% of soapy parlous do, they have different price rangers. This is because some ladies work for 1 amount of money and another style lady for another amount of money. I wanted to get in some of the other style ladies, so we had another price level, where the ladies will get more money.

We then tried a much lower price point as well, so in total we had.

1000 price.

1700 price.

2500 price.

The test was to see which was the best for the business and also can each price point get enough customers to open it's own place and that price.

In the end once we got the 2500baht price fulling running, we was so busy, we did not have enough rooms and it was to a point that the 1700 price ladies where at maximum 5% of the daily amount of ladies taken, which where taking up needed rooms for the 2500baht price. The 1000baht price had there own small rooms, so they did not effect it as much but we found out that this price point did not work for Annie's but would work in another place (after further tests).

It made perfect sense, move the 1700baht ladies out to a new place (which we was lucky we had a friend willing to take them and still keep them semi connected to me) giving us the needed space for the more popular girls.

Now Annie's only has the one price this is the one that sold the most, if the 1000baht price sold the most maybe we would have done it the same with that.

Dr BJ himself being quite clever, seeing the 1000baht prices and thought it would work in another shop and that is what he is calling budget bangers.

So again, no price increase, we added more choices at first. We let the customer choose which price / ladies they wanted. You could say over the 3 years that we had the different prices once we took out the 2 others 1000/1700 in the end the prices where higher but then when we opened in 1973 it was 500baht as much time as you want in the room.

Any shop sells the products and set the prices based on what the customers wants and can buy, which is what any good retail will do for good business. We sell for a price that give us profit as this is what any business does and the ladies work for a profit which they want to work for. This is the perfect price for this business and the ladies that we have ever had. The test showed us the product which was best and at which price.

If no one took the 2500baht ladies we would have no ladies as they would be having no work and we would be having no Annie's as no customer taking ladies and no money to run Annie's. 100% we have more ladies than we have ever had before at the moment, the reason is, we have more customers than we have ever had before.

Tourist numbers maybe down in Bangkok but there are still millions of tourists, so let me explain it this way.

For example tourist numbers gone down 10%

Annie's numbers up 40%

It does not matter what the country is doing as long as it is not down some crazy number like 95%

[QUOTE=Aey Annies; 1323588]There was no increase in price, it was an increase in choice at the start.

It does not matter what the country is doing as long as it is not down some crazy number like 95%[/QUOTE]Thanks Aye for your usual open comments and honest answers.

Of course I was taking Annie's just as an example not as a target to be hit. I apprecaite your explanations and these make quite sense.

Still in the eye of the generic customer, even the one always choosing the highests price tag, it is seen as a way to step up price or price level.

But please do not take me wrong. I hear what you say and usually I am a high end customer (doesn't mean I waste my money or overspend on poor quality) so I can understand why, at the end, uour customer range has addresed to the higher end, rather than taking the low end.

Maybe you are not calling the budget custsomers and DrBj (the smart ass he is! LOL) has done is budget airline now. And will call those budget customers.

Still in between the 1700 and the 2500 ladies I was opting for the 1700 as good enough, or I could not see the value of the 2500 (as I am not strictly looking for stunning girl but for good service) but ehre we go into "each one his own"

Cheers and I might see you soon, as I have already listed Annie's in the "to do" things for a couple of guys coming with me in BKK in a few weeks time.

No flame intended but why all the back and forth re Annies here? Isn't there another thread for this? And maybe include Dr BJ in the same Annies thread....

[QUOTE=Wolf Hound;1323590]I take it Dr BJ is using the login of Aey? The writing style is very similar[/QUOTE]LOL. This man is very funny.

[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1323635]No flame intended but why all the back and forth re Annies here? Isn't there another thread for this? And maybe include Dr BJ in the same Annies thread.[/QUOTE]I think Aye was just interacting on a conversation referring to prices, and incidentally she runs a soapie. So her input is quite interesting, as a voice from the other side. Annie's came in the equation just as an example common for many.

The idea of adding the DrBj planet (it is getting quite broad indeed) into the Annie's forum might look nice, but I don't think it works.

Annie's is a sort of institution in BKK soapies world. Gets new customers and the old still go there, as a good harbour. DrBJ is, correct me if I am wrong, not only new, but apart the smart marketing needs to make a long way to stardom. Probably its main customer base is in new punters, those tourists ready to jump the fence but not comfortable to do it in what they think being an old place. DrBj, with it's colours, light, branding has all the right ingredients for such. Not for nothing we don't seem to get here many reports, as their customers are not the "professional mongerers": they ratehr go to SOL. The new chain Makes a BJ salon a legitimate place.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1323703]...DrBj, with it's colours, light, branding has all the right ingredients for such...[/QUOTE]I just wonder how big the chain needs to get until it is on the public radar (franchised sex - they must be well connected). Thailand worries me a bit in this regard.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1323703]DrBJ is, correct me if I am wrong, not only new, but apart the smart marketing needs to make a long way to stardom. Probably its main customer base is in new punters, those tourists ready to jump the fence but not comfortable to do it in what they think being an old place. DrBj, with it's colours, light, branding has all the right ingredients for such. Not for nothing we don't seem to get here many reports, as their customers are not the "professional mongerers": they ratehr go to SOL. The new chain Makes a BJ salon a legitimate place.[/QUOTE]Thank you BM I really could not have stated things any better and in essence don't need to add anything to your post.

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1323790]I just wonder how big the chain needs to get until it is on the public radar (franchised sex - they must be well connected). Thailand worries me a bit in this regard.[/QUOTE]If I remember well, there is a special law on massage places which allows for some more lenience. Given the enormous amount of MPs they cannot all live by the good grace of the local BIB.

[QUOTE=Jp Slicky;1323431]It would be nice if you included the name of the place you went to, I assume you did not make it into Mango at that time.[/QUOTE]It was in the title, Addict Massage. It could have been Addict Spa or some other such name. But Addict was the first part.

If you have Mango to your back, it's about 30 meters down on the right.

[QUOTE=RBDave; 1324012]It was in the title, Addict Massage. It could have been Addict Spa or some other such name. But Addict was the first part.

If you have Mango to your back, it's about 30 meters down on the right.[/QUOTE]This place?

[url]http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/[/url]

I was thinking the same about your post, having not heard of or seen Addict Massage, I didn't make the connection. I thought you were a massage addict and had gone to Soi 24.

[QUOTE=Dr BJ;1323856]Thank you BM I really could not have stated things any better and in essence don't need to add anything to your post.Regards.BJ[/QUOTE]don't add anything, just keep on sending me the monthly baht quota! And do not forget the royalties for the DrBJ Condom. When are you launching the DrBj mints (ideal to give to your GF before she performs a BBBJ). Hey, guys, of course I am kidding on the "promotion", jsut lightening up the spirit of the thread, but not much on the mint matter. Try having your girl keeping in her mouth one of those high fresh mints tablets (I think Hassle) and you will experience a unique BJ. Probably better than Fire&Ice. :-)

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1323790]I just wonder how big the chain needs to get until it is on the public radar (franchised sex - they must be well connected). Thailand worries me a bit in this regard.[/QUOTE]When I tell my friend there is a place in a side soi of BKK called DrBJ Salon, they can't stop laughing to the idea. Most of them have not seen BKK and that of course means they can't imagine the Adultland provided by lower Sukh. Seeing is believing and as much as one can tell, one really has to see it.

But a place called DrBJ, with a clear and sound sign on the street it is something hard to understand for western culture (I am wondering on the asian culture and those of course understanding what BJ means). On its "defence" comes the fact that every second MP you step in will certain offer oil massage plus some sex behind the curtains, and the other second might offer sex only! LOL. So that area of the town is a sort of open air RLD. Nevertheless I alwasy say to my friends, go imagine if down your street there is a slon called Dr "name in your local language the word BJ". Hard, really hard (no pun intended) concept. Maybe DrBJ can let us know whether he got some feedback / report from locals for being such "loud and clear" with its name, just as a curiosity. On the other hand, how many german (for instance) normal people, walking and wandering around with no sex mind will understand what BJ means?

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1323790](franchised sex - they must be well connected).[/QUOTE]I think you are aware that there is ONE landlord for NEP (ie one comoany making money by leasing space to a bunch of bars living on sex (industry) and eventually on some beers. I think you are also aware that either in NEP, Soi Cowboy and Patpong there are quite a few bars belonging to same ownership (just as the casino in Las Vegas) and I do not refer only to those places that go by the name plus 2. Or 3. Or 4. Franchise or same ownership also there connections are strong. Or just mild as somebody recognizes their role into a slice of the tourists industry, so they do not bother them much apart some "little tip" in a brown envelope, for tea and sandwhiches of the local station.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1324290]I think you are aware that there is ONE landlord for NEP (ie one comoany making money by leasing space to a bunch of bars living on sex (industry) and eventually on some beers. I think you are also aware that either in NEP, Soi Cowboy and Patpong there are quite a few bars belonging to same ownership (just as the casino in Las Vegas) and I do not refer only to those places that go by the name plus 2. Or 3. Or 4. Franchise or same ownership also there connections are strong. Or just mild as somebody recognizes their role into a slice of the tourists industry, so they do not bother them much apart some "little tip" in a brown envelope, for tea and sandwhiches of the local station.[/QUOTE]There are 2 facts that make the difference. DrBJ is a Farang (At least that is what I thought) and he wants to go Thailandwide. Being Thai and dealing with authorities in one place is probably easier.

[QUOTE=Sonic Bam; 1324232]This place?

[url]http://www.addictmassagebkk.com/[/url]

I was thinking the same about your post, having not heard of or seen Addict Massage, I didn't make the connection. I thought you were a massage addict and had gone to Soi 24.[/QUOTE]Do not go to this website! My antivirus noted that an attack occurred when I tried to go to this website and prevented me from openning it. Be very careful.