American Politics

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2663944]Seriously? I get that you don't like Rasmussen, the Left hates Rasmussen because Rasmussen does not give them what they want, but you outside of politics seem to be a reasonable fellow punter, more or less, KKK, so maybe should reconsider your bias against the company. I trust Rasmussen because it has had the best track record for the last 2 elections. Trafalgar is also a very reliable, unbiased poll. These 2 pols were the only ones that got 2016 right the day before the election and they were the most accurate pols in 2020 as well.

Anyway, Rasmussen for at least the last 2 months has consistently put Biden between 40% & 43% likely voter favorability & 59% to 56% likely voter unfavorable and I think this accurately reflects how likely voters feel at the present time. But if you don't like or trust either one of these polls then Real Clear Politics is the one for you, but Biden doesn't do very to well with the averages either.

Down to cases: I remember seeing about 10 days ago a reliable pol with Trump up on average 6 pts or so over Biden & 10 pts over Kasmella. I am not making this up. If you want to a call me a liar go ahead, but here is the real clear politics link to that poll..[/QUOTE]Actually, Rasmussen was the only poll in the final final RCP 2020 presidential election lineup that gave Trump a 1 percentage point chance of a tie, his best shot at pulling off a win in the votes:

[URL]https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html[/URL]

Imo, that final poll assessment at crunch time when all eyes would be on which polls got the outcome right is compelling evidence that Rasmussen routinely oversamples Repubs and Repub leaners.

They are at least more likely than most to be less conscientious about weeding out winger fakers who say they are "Dems" just to fuck with the polls they always hated in hopes of producing results that will, you know, "own the libs".

Oh, perhaps not nearly as utterly lax about that as those Opt-in Online polls typically are. But lax.

Anyone who reads this forum ought to be quite familiar with that particular kind of pretending to be "Dem" fake assurance.

It looks like the Canadian PM has lost his friggin' marbles. Headline: "Canada's House of Commons erupts after Trudeau accuses Jewish MP of supporting swastikas."

[URL]https://rumble.com/vv4ood-trudeau-accuses-jewish-mp-of-standing-with-those-who-wave-swastikas.html[/URL]

Just drop the mandates you power hungry woke-fuck. People are mad as hell over Gov't Imposed Covid Restrictions and they are not going to take it any more.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRuS3dxKK9U&t=14s[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2664122]Axel, I found this poll in 2 seconds: [URL]https://www.newsweek.com/trump-widens-lead-over-biden-6-points-hypothetical-2024-matchup-poll-1662708[/URL].

Whenever a Democratic asks for sources, they do so to invalidate what you are saying.

If Tucker Carlson says 2 and 2 equal 4, these douches will be like, "Tucker Carlson would say that".

The best thing is to quote articles make them seem like they are your POV and then when they attack it, you can reveal that it is a neutral or left wing source.

For example, here is a great factual report on how Biden has fucked up the oil and gas and energy sector.

Here is a quote.

"The average USA Household in 2021 spent an extra $600 in higher gasoline costs and $70 in higher electricity costs. Further, households that use natural gas spent an extra $300, on average, and those using home heating oil paid $1,000 more. Cumulatively, the average American household paid about $1,000 in higher energy costs in 2021, compared to 2020..[/QUOTE]Yes, yes, we know about the polls showing Trump ahead of Biden in a hypothetical head to head last year, the year of your linked poll.

And we know about the tie.

And we know about the Opt-in Online Harris poll where anyone with two or more email addresses can sit in his mom's basement and choose Trump over and over again, having nothing to do with a true random sampling, which is why they can't even claim any +/-MoE estimation of accuracy.

And we know about the well known Repub and Repub leaning oversampler Rasmussen poll.

But, as I have stated, the premise of my post that triggered these responses was that Trump's yammering on the campaign trail now, lately, at least since last month, are driving his poll numbers down, including the hypothetical head to head vs Biden question.

Which, by definition, acknowledges that those polls for Trump would have been higher last year. See how that works?

In fact, I think even the Rasmussen poll shows Trump with a shrinking rather than growing advantage over Biden in that poll question. Not sure and I don't have time now to check it.

Maybe that trend will change for Trump in those polls the more he yammers on. But so far, no.

So you are so magnanimous that you are willing to cite something positive about Dem presidents who only grow and expand the economy, creating millions of jobs and produce no Great Recessions and don't understand why the rest of us can't be just as magnanimous about Repub presidents who plunge us into one Great Repub Recession after another and either produce piss poor jobs creation for the massive deficit spending they threw at it or more likely wipe out millions of jobs?

My, my, we have so much to learn from you about the generosity of spirit required to promote and encourage more and more and more of the latter and perhaps never again benefit from the former in our lifetimes.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2664185]It amazes me that the fascists on this board, Elvis, CaliGuy, Canada, Axel at al, post "alternative facts", mislabel them as "facts" and think that the rest of us are simply too stupid to know the difference.[/QUOTE]Funny how my calling you douches is censored while you are allowed to call others fascists and racists. Your definition of a fascist and racist is anyone who does not vote Democrat all the time.

So Heartland lists a series of facts about Biden and you call me names and belittle what Heartland's list of facts.

And then you call Heartland names. Then you talk about Trump and golf and Trump and bleach and then Covid and then White House furniture and then more stuff on Trump. Man, you DDs cannot quit Trump.

And what facts do you not want to address with energy prices right now? How about this?

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline[/URL]

From January 2018 through December 31, 2019, Keystone XL development costs were $1.5 billion. Bye, bye $1.5 billion dollars.

On January 20, 2021, United States President Joe Biden revoked the permit for the pipeline on his first day in office.

And why did he do that?

According to a February 10, 2011 Reuters article, Koch Industries then owned by Charles G. Koch and David H. Koch, commonly referred to as the Koch brotherswere in a position to increase their profits substantially if the Keystone XL Pipeline were approved.

You know what those are called PV Monger? Facts.

You know what is also a fact?

Oil was $52 a barrel when Biden took office, and it $93 now.

So Biden meant to fuck over the Koch brothers, score one for his climate change agenda, and in doing so, he fucked over the whole country.

The Democrat response to oil companies losing $1.5 billion? Eh, it is nothing. Well, they are sure making it back now.

That is what you Democrats call real leadership. For the rest of us, that is selfish and shitty policy. And your only response to this is to call people names and say "Well, what about Trump and bleach?" You are so pathetic.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2664122]I have no problem saying Obama was a good president and Clinton was a great one, but Reagan was the best president in my lifetime, and it is amazing how these Democratic do not accept that. The guy won two fucking landslides, and they are like, "Oh, he sucked...[/QUOTE]I see you repeatedly measure the success or failure of your favorites by how many votes they got, regardless how objectively shitty or inferior to your "worst" presidents their economic or national security results were.

Therefore, as long as we're just identifying "greatness" by who got the most votes regardless of actual results in office, you must be quite impressed by the consistent greatness of the Democratic Party now that has gotten more votes for president than the Republican Party in 7 of the last 8 presidential elections.

I would even argue that the only reason the one Repub numbskull who did get more votes than his Democratic Party opponent in 2004 did so by a hare's breath solely because he had the advantage of the incumbency on his side thanks only to being appointed president by the wingers on the SCOTUS in 2000 and for blundering us into a couple of pointless wars in order to run for re-election as a self-described "Wartime President"!

Had it not been for that one totally disastrous winger Repub SCOTUS appointment to the presidency in 2000, it is obvious the record would be more votes for Dems in 8 out of the last 8 presidential elections, with Dems totally running the table since your "best president of my lifetime" left his and his VP's longest lasting consecutive historic disapproval mark as measured by actual votes on the idea of his Party ever occupying the White House again.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2664175]You gave me the chuckles. Did you address anything factual at all in your retort? All you did was due to typical Democratic move and attacked the sources: Fox News, Epoch news, Zero Hedge, Joe Rogan, and Heartland. It is to the point that you guys want to cancel everyone who disagrees with you facts be damned.

Among the Biden policies the report claims are causing energy costs to increase dramatically are these:

Canceling the Keystone XL pipeline linking Canadian oil producing areas with refineries in the Midwestern and Southern United States.

Restricting drilling in parts of the Arctic Ocean, Bering Sea, and continental federal lands, especially in the Western USA..[/QUOTE]So, for all of your bloviation, you fail to mention the reasons for these actions. And in failing to do so, you tell us what you don't care about.

In point of fact, many of the moves above simply reversed policies of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy. They simply reset the meter (as it were) to pre-dump. Other policies went beyond that.

But all of the moves you mentioned above are for the sole reason of protecting the environment. Period. And that's what you and the rest of the "drill, baby, drill" fascist Republican party are against. Who cares if your kids don't have clean water to drink. No big deal because they'll have cheap gasoline. So what if your grandkids can't breath. No big deal 'cause they'll have cheap propane. Who cares about any of it as long as you and the rest of the fascists have cheap petroleum products.

And that's the difference here. Democrats care about the future and how future generations will live.

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2664247]It looks like the Canadian PM has lost his friggin' marbles. Headline: "Canada's House of Commons erupts after Trudeau accuses Jewish MP of supporting swastikas."[/QUOTE]Yeah, everyone in the Western world is urging Canada to hold the line, and it is not going well. Brandon is terrified this spreads to the USA and he and others are urging Trudeau to crack down.

The irony is the CC comedy South Park predicted this in its first episode of the season. Trudeau looks like PC principal here and he has tripped a wire that no one can come back from, a potential bank run.

If Canada does have a bank run, they are done. [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bank-run-canadas-top-banks-mysteriously-go-offline[/URL].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2664296]Funny how my calling you douches is censored while you are allowed to call others fascists and racists. Your definition of a fascist and racist is anyone who does not vote Democrat all the time.

So Heartland lists a series of facts about Biden and you call me names and belittle what Heartland's list of facts.

And then you call Heartland names. Then you talk about Trump and golf and Trump and bleach and then Covid and then White House furniture and then more stuff on Trump. Man, you DDs cannot quit Trump.

And what facts do you not want to address with energy prices right now? How about this?..[/QUOTE]This is exactly what I mean about facts and alternative facts. You and the rest of the Republicans constantly say that your "alternative facts" are really facts and you back them up by posting manure from some web site that has zero credibility. Did you even read anything about Heartland? Any rag who tried to say that there was no link between smoking and lung cancer can't be trusted to be correct on anything else. That isn't to say that no publication can make a mistake. But when a publication constantly report lies like the one I mentioned, they cease to have credibility.

Fact: Smoking causes lung cancer.

Alternative Fact: Smoking does not cause lung cancer.

Fact: Biden cancelled the Keystone XL pipeline because of potential damage to the environment.

Alternative Fact: Biden wanted to screw the Koch brothers.

Fact: People died in car crashes yesterday. People ate Wheaties yesterday.

Alternative Fact: Eating Wheaties causes people to die.

Fact: Trump ripped up documents that should have been given to the archivists.

Alternative Fact: So what if the archives has a bunch of ripped up documents. Nobody can prove that Trump ripped them up.

Fact: Trump lost.

Alternative Fact: Trump won and even though none of his 60+ lawsuits went anywhere, we know that the evidence exists. Chinese thermostats changed votes. Jewish space lasers were involved.

I worked for regional CPA firms as well as my own book of business.

I know what's typically involved in these severing of relationships when CPAs fire their bad clients.

It usually happens when businesses begin to fail.

Or demand too much.

Both of which are likely to be at play here.

An accountant can accept of bunch of doubtful, shaky assertions from their client, but only within limits.

More than once, I needed to wrangle in a client's wild story to some level of reality.

My guess is that TrumpShit is having trouble paying for his accountants.

When your accountants fire you.

Your financials must be circling the drain.

Or at least regularly clogging it. HaHaHaHaHa.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2664429]And that's what you and the rest of the "drill, baby, drill" fascist Republican party are against. Who cares if your kids don't have clean water to drink. No big deal because they'll have cheap gasoline. So what if your grandkids can't breath. No big deal 'cause they'll have cheap propane. Who cares about any of it as long as you and the rest of the fascists have cheap petroleum products.[/QUOTE]If elvises of this world get their way, their kids won't have clean water and will STILL have expensive gasoline. Because it doesn't matter how many holes they drill, energy markets are global and hyper-sensitive to any political and economic shocks. Crackpots just can't get it into their thick, dumb heads that oil prices can't be controlled by the will of presidents and political hacks.

https://www.macrotrends.net/1369/crude-oil-price-history-chart

[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2664247]It looks like the Canadian PM has lost his friggin' marbles. Headline: "Canada's House of Commons erupts after Trudeau accuses Jewish MP of supporting swastikas."

[URL]https://rumble.com/vv4ood-trudeau-accuses-jewish-mp-of-standing-with-those-who-wave-swastikas.html[/URL]

Just drop the mandates you power hungry woke-fuck. People are mad as hell over Gov't Imposed Covid Restrictions and they are not going to take it any more.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRuS3dxKK9U&t=14s[/URL][/QUOTE]He didn't accuse the MP of supporting swastikas. He accuses [B]HER PARTY MEMBERS of standing with people who wave swastikas.[/B].

Nice spin, though. Leave it to them right-wingers to exploit good, old-fashioned fake outrage.

Here is what really happened.

[QUOTE]Ms. Lantsman, the MP for Thornhill, north of Toronto, told the House that Mr. Trudeau “fans the flames of an unjustified national emergency” and asked, “When did the Prime Minister lose his way?”

He responded by saying, “Conservative Party members can stand with people who wave swastikas. They can stand with people who wave the Confederate flag.

“We will choose to stand with Canadians who deserve to be able to get to their jobs, to be able to get their lives back. These illegal protests need to stop and they will.”[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-conservative-swastikas-1.6354970[/URL]

I'm Jewish, by the way, so don't even!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2664523]He didn't accuse the MP of supporting swastikas. He accuses [B]HER PARTY MEMBERS of standing with people who wave swastikas.[/URL]

I'm Jewish, by the way, so don't even![/QUOTE]I don't care if you are a Houthis from Yemen or a SW on Beach Road in Pattaya; you should be disgusted with this form of political rhetoric like all civilized people should. This is no way for the PM of a proud and free country to talk. Truth is baby face Trudeau had nothing after the woman dressed him down. That is why he took the low road. What swastika waving truckers or supporters of swastika waving truckers is he talking about! I would really like to know. I have seen no swastikas among the protestors, only Canadian flags. The protestors have not burned any buildings. They have not attacked anybody (unlike Biden supporters ie BLM and Antifa). Agree with their specific issue or disagree with it, they are free to peacefully protest. I have been vaxed 3 times, so obviously I think vaccines have some efficacy and are worth the risk, but I also believe the Government does not have the right to mandate vaccines or force it's citizens to be vaxed. The PM disagrees. Debate it and may the best argument win.

But Trudeau is a little man. A female member of Parliament dressed him down pretty good on the floor of Parliament using his own words to show his hypocrisy and he had no response other than to compare her and her supporters to Nazi sympathizers. But no surprises there. This is what the Left does all the time. Disagree with them and they call you a Fascist, a Racist, or a Swastika waving yada yada yada because they have nothing and they desperately want to shut down the debate. You are on the wrong side, mate. Open you eyes!

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2664517]If elvises of this world get their way, their kids won't have clean water and will STILL have expensive gasoline. Because it doesn't matter how many holes they drill, energy markets are global and hyper-sensitive to any political and economic shocks.[/QUOTE]This from a guy on a website where guys fly thousands of miles for pussy. He he. What kind of SUV do you drive douche?

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2664429]But all of the moves you mentioned above are for the sole reason of protecting the environment. Period. And that's what you and the rest of the "drill, baby, drill" fascist Republican party are against. Who cares if your kids don't have clean water to drink. No big deal because they'll have cheap gasoline. So what if your grandkids can't breath. No big deal 'cause they'll have cheap propane. Who cares about any of it as long as you and the rest of the fascists have cheap petroleum products.[/QUOTE]Yeah, it is the same old bullshit with you. Question the source. Change the subject. Now it is clean water. Truth is that the most important thing to do to save children is cheap energy in 3rd world nations.

[URL]https://phys.org/news/2018-10-air-pollution-children-year.html[/URL]#text=Exposure%20 to%20 toxic%20 air%20 both, World%20 Health%20 Organization%20 warned%20 Monday.

Air pollution kills 600,000 children each year: WHO.

And the USA doubled oil production from 2010 on, and air quality actually went up. Say what? [URL]https://www.epa.gov/air-trends/air-quality-national-summary[/URL].

And water? [URL]https://www.nrdc.org/experts/jon-devine/fifty-years-after-1969-how-far-have-we-come[/URL].

Water pollution levels have generally improved compared to 50 years ago.

But there was one terrible incident under Trump where regulators did not keep up. That was the Deepwater Horizon incident where the Trump administration pushed oil companies to achieve independence and short changed regulations and the Gulf of Mexico was horribly polluted.

Oh wait, that incident happened under Obama.

He he.

Biden did not shut down Keystone for clean water. That is the bullshit excuse he used to fuck over energy companies who support Republicans.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2664523]I'm Jewish, by the way, so don't even![/QUOTE]You think the only one the Nazis hurt were Jews? Screw you for ignoring the suffering of others.