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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2664517]If elvises of this world get their way, their kids won't have clean water and will STILL have expensive gasoline.[/QUOTE]Is that before we all die from climate change or after? You have been spinning so many apocalypses I cannot keep track.
And I am pissed at you today. It is 30 and windy near me, and you promised climate change would be fixed. I expected with Brandon as president that every day would be sunny and 80. WTF went wrong?
[QUOTE=AxelHeyst;2664553]I don't care if you are a Houthis from Yemen or a SW on Beach Road in Pattaya; you should be disgusted with this form of political rhetoric like all civilized people should. This is no way for the PM of a proud and free country to talk. Truth is baby face Trudeau had nothing after the woman dressed him down. That is why he took the low road. What swastika waving truckers or supporters of swastika waving truckers is he talking about! I would really like to know. [/QUOTE]I'm glad you asked. I'll tell ya in a minute.
But first, let's get back to your original message.
You said:
[QUOTE]Headline: "Canada's House of Commons erupts after Trudeau accuses Jewish MP of supporting swastikas."[/QUOTE]That was a false statement. I've proved to you that it was false with a literal quote of what was really said.
The whole fake right-wing outrage has centered on the fact that the MP in question was Jewish. And my point was that contrary to your statement, Trudeau has never accused her, a person of Jewish descent, of supporting swastikas.
Now, I understand that it wasn't your own quote. You just read it in one of the right-wing lie-spreading publications and decided why not? I like what it says, let me just go ahead and paste it.
Well, that was wrong. At this point you should know that right-wing media are routinely dealing in lies, half-truths and omissions. That's their business model. You need to verify everything by going to the primary source.
Now that we have established that Trudeau did NOT accuse a woman of Jewish descent PERSONALLY of waving swastikas let me address your next concern, namely:
"What swastika waving truckers or supporters of swastika waving truckers is he talking about! I would really like to know. ".
What truckers? Well, these truckers.
[QUOTE]The remarks came during protests by a Freedom Convoy whose purpose, according to The Associated Press, was to rail against COVID-19 restrictions, and against Trudeau himself. That protest included a blockade of pickups, cars, and a handful of commercial trucks that ended up choking off traffic at the Ambassador Bridge, the busiest border crossing between Canada and the United States. Other crossings were also impacted as well as downtown streets in Canadas capital of Ottawa.
We found that a small number of swastikas and Confederate battle flags were indeed displayed by a few Freedom Convoy protesters. Most of the swastikas and other symbols appeared to be pictured on signs as a way of mocking and protesting government restrictions. According to photographs, at least one man carried a full Nazi flag. We looked into the incidents of symbols of hate being sighted in Canada and documented them for this report.[/QUOTE]Please click here to see the photos with swastikas and confederate flag.
[URL]https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/02/17/swastikas-canada-freedom-convoy[/URL]
Conclusion: Trudeau told the truth. The party the MP in question belongs to DOES stand with people waving swastikas and confederate flags.
The End.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2664562]You think the only one the Nazis hurt were Jews? Screw you for ignoring the suffering of others.[/QUOTE]I think what?
Show me where I said or implied that the Jews were the only people murdered (not hurt) by the Nazis.
Alternatively, you can write the following: Sorry, I'm an illiterate idiot with an attention span of a 5 year old.
Your choice.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2664555]This from a guy on a website where guys fly thousands of miles for pussy. He he. What kind of SUV do you drive douche?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the laugh.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2664562]You think the only one the Nazis hurt were Jews? Screw you for ignoring the suffering of others.[/QUOTE][URL]https://amgreatness.com/2022/02/16/hillary-clintons-greatest-masterpiece/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2664560]Yeah, it is the same old bullshit with you. Question the source. Change the subject. Now it is clean water. Truth is that the most important thing to do to save children is cheap energy in 3rd world nations.
[URL]https://phys.org/news/2018-10-air-pollution-children-year.html[/URL]#text=Exposure%20 to%20 toxic%20 air%20 both, World%20 Health%20 Organization%20 warned%20 Monday.
Air pollution kills 600,000 children each year: WHO.
And the USA doubled oil production from 2010 on, and air quality actually went up. Say what? [URL]https://www.epa.gov/air-trends/air-quality-national-summary[/URL].
And water? [URL]https://www.nrdc.org/experts/jon-devine/fifty-years-after-1969-how-far-have-we-come[/URL]..[/QUOTE]Here's what you just said in a nutshell: "People dies in car crashes every day. Some people eat Wheaties every day. Therefore, Wheaties cause people to die in car crashes."
The simple fact that oil production went up starting in 2010 and air quality improved are [B]unrelated[/B]. Just like eating Wheaties and are crashes are [B]unrelated[/B]. Virtually any scientific journal will say that. Like [URL]https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211012154833.htm[/URL] or [URL]https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3298/4/3/66/htm[/URL] or [URL]https://wildearthguardians.org/historical-archive/drilling-pollution-solutions/[/URL] etc. Wishing or saying that oil production makes the environment better does not make it better.
Oil production also has an impact on water quality. [URL]https://www.wilderness.org/articles/blog/7-ways-oil-and-gas-drilling-bad-environment[/URL] or [URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2014/01/05/some-states-confirm-water-pollution-from-drilling/4328859/[/URL] Wishing or saying that oil production makes the environment better does not make it better.
Pipeline leaks also impact the environment: [URL]https://www.americanrivers.org/threats-solutions/energy-development/pipeline-failures/[/URL] Wishing or saying that oil production makes the environment better does not make it better.
Oh, and then there's this, courtesy of the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy: [URL]https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/how-trump-is-changing-science-environment[/URL] In other words, Cheeto-Tweeto tried his best to screw up the environment. Thankfully, Biden has cancelled most of what the Orange Buffoon did.
But you are correct in stating that the Deepwater Horizon incident happened on Obama's watch. But, as usual, you are dead wrong on the reasons why it happened. [B]Wrong. As. Usual.[/B] [URL]https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-spill-the-scandal-and-the-president-193093/[/URL] and, best of all, [URL]https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/GPO-OILCOMMISSION/pdf/GPO-OILCOMMISSION.pdf[/URL].
Again, this is like teaching Algebra to my dog.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2664562]You think the only one the Nazis hurt were Jews? Screw you for ignoring the suffering of others.[/QUOTE]And exactly where and when did he say that? Or is this just more fake outrage from one of the leading fascists on this board?
There use to be a joke that said "Question: How can you tell if a Trump supporter is lying? Answer: Their lips are moving." I guess we'll have to amend the last part and say." Their lips are moving or their fingers are typing or they're recording something."
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2664676]"What swastika waving truckers or supporters of swastika waving truckers is he talking about! I would really like to know. ".
What truckers? Well, these truckers.
Please click here to see the photos with swastikas and confederate flag.
[URL]https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/02/17/swastikas-canada-freedom-convoy[/URL]
Conclusion: Trudeau told the truth. The party the MP in question belongs to DOES stand with people waving swastikas and confederate flags.[/QUOTE]So this is the method of quashing dissent? People protesting Trudeau and calling him a Nazi and waving swastikas are now supporting Nazis themselves? Well at least we now know the Democratic playbook. Have the FBI put in undercover officers in any demonstration to wave flags with swastikas on them.
"I am Jewish so do not even."
Do not what? Call you a douche? Because that is what you are.
In 1933, Hitler gave himself dictatorial powers via the Enabling Act. [URL]https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/the-enabling-act[/URL].
And Trudeau has pretty much done the same thing: [URL]https://unherd.com/2022/02/justin-trudeaus-phoney-dictatorship/[/URL].
Its predecessor, the War Measures Act, was used three times: once for World War One, once for World War Two, and once to deal with a violent campaign of bombing, kidnapping, and murder by Quebecois separatists in 1970.
The article that is quoted from says Trudeau is not a dictator because he has so little support from the police and military. So Trudeau is not Hitler yet but a Hitler want to be.
I think it is a good time to define the difference between a Democrat and a Democratic douche. A douche like you Xpartan wants one party rule in the USA just as badly as the Nazis did and Trudeau does.
That is why you douches praise Carter, bash Reagan, and call the American public stupid when they do not vote like you want them to.
Herte's some first had evidence that oil drilling and fracking, etc. Are [B]completely safe and never cause environmental damage[/B]. [URL]https://news.yahoo.com/irreversible-no-easy-fix-water-123021908.html[/URL].
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2664841]Here's what you just said in a nutshell: "People dies in car crashes every day. Some people eat Wheaties every day. Therefore, Wheaties cause people to die in car crashes."[/QUOTE]No, YOU said increasing oil production leads to an increase in pollution. I showed it does not. Who the fuck do you think you are to "translate" for others here and lie? Oh right, you are a douche. It goes with the territory.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2664841]But you are correct in stating that the Deepwater Horizon incident happened on Obama's watch. But, as usual, you are dead wrong on the reasons why it happened. [B]Wrong. As. Usual.[/B] [URL]https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-spill-the-scandal-and-the-president-193093/[/URL].[/QUOTE]From the article, "In case you were wondering who's responsible," Obama told the nation, "I take responsibility. " "The buck," he reiterated the next day on the sullied Louisiana coastline, "stops with me."
Because you are a douche, you echo what Rolling Stone said in the headlines, "The inside story of how Obama failed to crack down on the corruption of the Bush years. " Yes, it is Bush's fault even when Obama admits it was his fault.
You cannot make this shit up.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2664841]this is like teaching Algebra to my dog.[/QUOTE]You are not teaching algebra but one party rule and fascism. Power is something dogs get. Maybe if you strengthen your weak ass limp wrists, your dog might respect you.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2664889]No, YOU said increasing oil production leads to an increase in pollution. I showed it does not. Who the fuck do you think you are to "translate" for others here and lie? Oh right, you are a douche. It goes with the territory.
From the article, "In case you were wondering who's responsible," Obama told the nation, "I take responsibility. " "The buck," he reiterated the next day on the sullied Louisiana coastline, "stops with me."
Because you are a douche, you echo what Rolling Stone said in the headlines, "The inside story of how Obama failed to crack down on the corruption of the Bush years. " Yes, it is Bush's fault even when Obama admits it was his fault.
You cannot make this shit up.
You are not teaching algebra but one party rule and fascism. Power is something dogs get. Maybe if you strengthen your weak ass limp wrists, your dog might respect you.[/QUOTE]You showed nothing of the sort. You showed two [B]absolutely unrelated things[/B] and said that they were related. I showed multiple sources that disproved what you said. I was not the one who lied. You were.
But that goes with the territory. Because you have no idea what you're talking about. As I said in my earlier, your logic is "People die in car accidents daily. People eat Wheaties daily. Therefore, Wheaties cause people to die in car accidents". But I don't expect you to understand. You can't.
Yes, Obama said "The buck stops here". That's what a real leader says. He was the man in charge so everything that happens under his watch is his fault. The real leader says that stuff is his fault even when it isn't. Hell, Harry Truman had a sign on his desk that said that.
The Mango Mussolini had a completely different approach. The buck, under him, stopped everywhere else. See, that's the difference between a real leader and a buffoon. The buffoon does what the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy does. He should have had a sign on his desk that said "The buck stops somewhere else. I take no responsibility. "
Because you are a douche, you have no idea what it takes to lead nor what it takes to be a real President. As the Orange Fruitcake so aptly proved, he could fool some of the people (his supporters) all of the time but he couldn't fool all of the people (the ones who kicked him to the curb) all of the time. All of which proves that his supporters are idiots.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2664873]So this is the method of quashing dissent? People protesting Trudeau and calling him a Nazi and waving swastikas are now supporting Nazis themselves? [/QUOTE]A short time ago, you claimed I'd said that the Nazis only hurt (sic!) Jews.
I asked you to back up this idiotic claim. You pretended not to notice.
Instead you fired your usual brainless vitriol about the climate changes that had nothing to with the topic at hand.
And now this.
I'm asking again: where did I say or imply that the truckers supported Nazis?
Yes, it's true. These living brain donors blocking the streets of Ottawa protesting the government's health mandate, do compare Trudeau with Hitler and their "plight" with Holocaust. When did I say otherwise? I even brought a piece from Snopes stating [B]exactly that[/B].
Who gives a shit who your favorite morons support? My point is that contrary to yet another hysterical right-wing howling, Trudeau did not insult a Jewish MP and was completely factual when he said that her party stands with people waving swastikas. Because they fucking do wave swastikas.
Be a man. Back it up or admit that you're wrong. Don't be a fucking weasel.
Let's see how Canadian PM Trudeau (who's been compared to Hitler and vilified nonstop by brainless truckers and our own Elvis, the King of Deflections) is compared versus our orange Torch of Liberty.
So far, Canada has seen 38,000 Covid deaths.
America - 930,000 deaths.
Canadian population is 36 million.
American population - 330 million.
Covid Deaths:
1 Canadian out of 947.
1 American out of 355.
Yeah, Blood Orange did a heck of a job, no doubt.
[QUOTE=PVMonger;2664884]Herte's some first had evidence that oil drilling and fracking, etc. Are [B]completely safe and never cause environmental damage[/B]. [URL]https://news.yahoo.com/irreversible-no-easy-fix-water-123021908.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Somehow, the [B]sarcasm remarks[/B] were removed from my original post.
The fascists will misinterpret the post above so I guess I need to state it again. When I said that oil drilling and fracking are completely safe and never cause environmental damage, [B]I was being sarcastic.[/B].
The news story I linked to, though, was anything but sarcastic.
To Elvis, Marquis, CaliGuy, Canada, Golfinho and all freedom loving, rational, fellow mongers: the haters on this thread are not worth debating. You can't have an intelligent open dialogue with an apparatchik. It is not possible because they possess one track "party" minds that are set in concrete. If Obama were to rape Kasmella on live TV these idiots would applaud if the "party" said applaud. If Trump did the same thing they would want to burn him at the stake. We live in very strange times. Who thought that millions of Americans could be so fucking dogmatic and stupid? Not me. I always thought that America was the land of the free, home of the brave. No cliche. That Americans were rugged individualists and not Antifa Brown Shirts or BLM Marxist racists.
The good news is the Woke movement has had its mask (no pun intended) torn off and the people know what the movement is really all about thanks to Let's Go Brandon's incompetence & lack of ability, violence in the streets, insane school boards, open border, inflation, and a corrupt media. In 9 months we take back the Congress big time and Woke will be finished. In the meantime, I am putting all the apparatchiks and brown shirts who post on this thread on my ignore list. I am not telling you guys what to do, but if we all ignore these trolls maybe they will get tired of shitting on themselves and we can go back to being men talking about poontang.
P.S. For thinking people I recommend:
Victor Davis Hanson's "the Case for Trump" and his historical masterpiece "A War Like No Other. " Brilliant!
Thomas Sowell's "A Conflict of Visions" an insightful study of the ideological origins of our current political divisions.
And of course, Milton Friedman's masterpiece "Capitalism and Freedom" which shows what it is all about.
A. H.
BAIER: When you hear Trump supporters point to that speech that he made on the Mall saying supporters should, "peacefully and patriotically March to the Capitol," what do you say?
REP. CHENEY: Look, I think you have to look at the speech, you have to look at the extent to which he was urging people to, "fight like hell. " You have to look at the extent to which he had been for months, weeks before that, telling people, "Come to Washington, it will be wild. " I also think that you have to look at what he has said since. He continues to suggest that the violence on January 6th was justified. When he says, "November 3rd was the insurrection and January 6th was a protest," what he is doing is continuing to undermine our electoral process. You know, he has gone to war with the rule of law, and I think that's also really important for people to understand. [B]We had over 60 state and federal courts that heard his claims many of them were Trump judges. They heard the evidence in many of those cases, and they rejected them. The President of the United States has got a fundamental constitutional responsibility to ensure that the laws are faithfully executed, and that is what Donald Trump failed to do. [/B].