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[QUOTE=Vittu; 1377415]I see the words girls use in their profiles but am not sure about the meaning.

What does a girl mean when she describes herself as "humble" or "simple," as most do. (I guess I get the meaning just by observing them, their interests and behavior).[/QUOTE]My take is that they are reffering to the actual life style they lead which is usually free from the complexities that we might be accustomed to in our daily living, and they concentrate more on [I][B]needs[/B][/I] As opposed to [I][B]wants[/B][/I].

[QUOTE=Python75;1377482]My take is that they are reffering to the actual life style they lead which is usually free from the complexities that we might be accustomed to in our daily living, and they concentrate more on [I][B]needs[/B][/I] As opposed to [I][B]wants[/B][/I].[/QUOTE]I don't think you know filipinas very well Python.

In my experience they focus on what they WANT rather than what they NEED.

I know several girls who have the latest cell phone and IPad along with a monthly subscription to an internet provider and yet they often go without food and they crash in friends' houses because they cannot afford a "bed spacer". Wants are way more important than the basic needs of food and shelter.

There's no accurate answer to explain what they mean when they say they are "simple". I have asked many times and I always get a different answer. It generally refers to the way they think they live (simple) rather than to themselves. Hell. No woman in the world is "simple". They are all extraordinarily complex.

[QUOTE=Vittu; 1377415]I see the words girls use in their profiles but am not sure about the meaning.

What does a girl mean when she describes herself as "humble" or "simple," as most do. (I guess I get the meaning just by observing them, their interests and behavior).[/QUOTE]When I asked the same question to different girls, I got the answer ordinary with simple needs.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1377487]Hell. No woman in the world is "simple". They are all extraordinarily complex.[/QUOTE]So well said; one of the great truths in life. Almost belongs in the ROD.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt;1377487]In my experience they focus on what they WANT rather than what they NEED.[/QUOTE]I observe that poor Filipinos / Filipinas have no sense of the Western concept of delayed gratification. If they come into a small windfall which should be enough to carry them for an extended period, it will not last. If they have the money, it's invariably burning a hole in the pocket, and they'll spend it on whatever whim strikes. I recall a front page story in the Phil Daily Inquirer of a few years ago. An American Peace Corps volunteer had been on site in some northern province only a couple weeks when the reporter interviewed him. He commented on how hospitable Filipinos were, as even poor families would put the last food in the house out on the table to entertain a guest. Yes, they often are hospitable in this way, but the flip side is they'll put out the last food or spend the last peso when a little bit of thrift might have kept them from hunger a few days later.

There are often commentaries here about visiting families in the provinces. The warning, usually appropriate, is that the monger will be expected to pay to entertain the family, and often the extended family. Some on the forum see this as pre-planned exploitation by the family. I don't see it as malevolent exploitation; rather, you're not a planned victim but a fortunate windfall for them. If it were one of them who suddenly came into a windfall, they too would likely be expected to entertain everybody else in the family. Resources, whether money, bananas, fish, or whatever, are meant to be consumed. Now, not later.

This is one of the contributing factors for why there are multiple sari-sari stores around every poor community. Planning ahead to buy a large bottle of cooking oil that could last a month or so isn't going to happen. The mindset is that they'll never have enough spare money--and it's too far to the Rustan's supermarket--to buy the larger quantity of oil. It's often a reality that they don't have enough money to buy it, but it's also a mindset related to always spending whatever is in the pocket. So instead they go repeatedly to the nearest sari-sari and buy half a cup of oil poured out into a little plastic bag, just enough to cook the current pot of food on the charcoal burner or single burner gas stove. And the plastic bag will soon be on the ground, waiting for the next downpour to be washed into some waste water grate where it backs up the runoff and helps flood the street. Cynical? Maybe. But I've watched it happen. Okay, some have trash cans in the home, but a kid with a candy wrapper standing a meter from a trash can is more likely to throw it on the ground. Impulse buying and environmental neglect are different faces of the same coin.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost; 1377588]I observe that poor Filipinos / Filipinas have no sense of the Western concept of delayed gratification. If they come into a small windfall which should be enough to carry them for an extended period, it will not last. If they have the money, it's invariably burning a hole in the pocket, and they'll spend it on whatever whim strikes. I recall a front page story in the Phil Daily Inquirer of a few years ago. An American Peace Corps volunteer had been on site in some northern province only a couple weeks when the reporter interviewed him. He commented on how hospitable Filipinos were, as even poor families would put the last food in the house out on the table to entertain a guest. Yes, they often are hospitable in this way, but the flip side is they'll put out the last food or spend the last peso when a little bit of thrift might have kept them from hunger a few days later.

There are often commentaries here about visiting families in the provinces. The warning, usually appropriate, is that the monger will be expected to pay to entertain the family, and often the extended family. Some on the forum see this as pre-planned exploitation by the family. I don't see it as malevolent exploitation; rather, you're not a planned victim but a fortunate windfall for them. If it were one of them who suddenly came into a windfall, they too would likely be expected to entertain everybody else in the family. Resources, whether money, bananas, fish, or whatever, are meant to be consumed. Now, not later.

This is one of the contributing factors for why there are multiple sari-sari stores around every poor community. Planning ahead to buy a large bottle of cooking oil that could last a month or so isn't going to happen. The mindset is that they'll never have enough spare money-and it's too far to the Rustan's supermarket-to buy the larger quantity of oil. It's often a reality that they don't have enough money to buy it, but it's also a mindset related to always spending whatever is in the pocket. So instead they go repeatedly to the nearest sari-sari and buy half a cup of oil poured out into a little plastic bag, just enough to cook the current pot of food on the charcoal burner or single burner gas stove. And the plastic bag will soon be on the ground, waiting for the next downpour to be washed into some waste water grate where it backs up the runoff and helps flood the street. Cynical? Maybe. But I've watched it happen. Okay, some have trash cans in the home, but a kid with a candy wrapper standing a meter from a trash can is more likely to throw it on the ground. Impulse buying and environmental neglect are different faces of the same coin.[/QUOTE]You cannot put western thinking into their mind. They are very much family oriented and share everything what they have. Yes, it puts them in a financial strain. There are lots of stories where a hard working girl goes abroad, saves money only to be seen evaporating helping their extended family. Money demands are always there. Even the girls tell me their family is their priority and will do anything to help them. This includes sleeping with foreigners. So in this respect we should be thankfull we get young, cute girls without problems.

[quote=sammon;1377612]you cannot put western thinking into their mind. they are very much family oriented and share everything what they have. yes, it puts them in a financial strain. there are lots of stories where a hard working girl goes abroad, saves money only to be seen evaporating helping their extended family.[/quote] agreed. i don't live in the pi so i can't be a fair judge of economic, cultural values of the pi blah, blah, blah. 10% of the pi's entire gdp is money sent home from expatriated workers such as the young maid traveling to saudi arabia to have her passport confirep001ed, work under probably hellish conditions and be released only after conditions of her employer have been satisfied. the pi girls i've been and still associate with (i bred with one of them) seem to have their value systems in pretty good shape. i'm not referring to your garden variety lazy or dumbass spoiled princess.

since i live in the usa i can speak to the sense of delayed gratification and financial accountability here where we americans, as a society, prefer not to simply spend what is in our pockets, but dip into someone else's pockets and spend their money as well.

Note that my comment was simply describing "the way it is in the Philippines" when I said they "focus on what they WANT rather than what they NEED".

I never tried to analyse it, explain it or justify it. It is the way it is.

As a visitor, it is best for you to accept it and just go along with it and, as a few posters said, don't think you can try to change it.

[QUOTE=Vittu;1377415]What does a girl mean when she describes herself as "humble" or "simple," as most do. (I guess I get the meaning just by observing them, their interests and behavior).[/QUOTE]Lo and behold this just came up while talking to a chat mate who I will meet next month:

Honey: I am not a super model o are super beautiful.

Mr E: what are you?

Honey: simple woman hehe.

Mr E: what simple woman mean?

Honey: for me simple is, don't wear too sexy dress because I'm not sexy. Just always stay at home, don't go anywhere.

Mr E: boring?

Honey: I don't drink, and not smoke. Yesss boring, but that is my life.

Honey: but if there is a chance to enjoy, why not

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1377865]Mr E: what simple woman mean?

Honey: for me simple is, don't wear too sexy dress because I'm not sexy. Just always stay at home, don't go anywhere.

Mr E: boring?

Honey: I don't drink, and not smoke. Yesss boring, but that is my life.[/QUOTE]LMAO. Priceless.

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1377393]It's not new. Whatever makes you think it is "new". And it is not only Cebu. Your "sample" is surely a minor fraction of the approximately 46 million females in the Philippines.

A majority of filipinas (probably more than 90% of them) are conservative in behavior and upbringing, and they would always bring a chaperone on a first meeting with a stranger. These are NOT the girls that most visitors will encounter in various places of entertainment whose main [I]modus operandi [/I] Is to find guys in bars, in malls or on chat sites. If she wants to bring a chaperone she is merely following well-established norms.

FF has the solution in the earlier post. This usually works. If it doesn't then you have struck out with a non-player, and you should move on.[/QUOTE]Sorry I didn't made myself clear. The girls I mentionned isn't the swwet shy youg filipina who want to bring a friend to feel safer or more comfortable, they are semipro hookers who want to "force me" going into 3some. They are explicite about the 3some.

But you're right, the girl willing to bring her friend, more, cousin is a different story and isn't for sure something new. But the hooker willing 3some or nothing is definitly a new thing to my experience.

[QUOTE=Pervfr;1377983]they are semipro hookers who want to "force me" going into 3some. They are explicite about the 3some.[/QUOTE]This happens everywhere, not just in the Filipines. A lot of guys are sucked into this from having watched too much porn. Threesomes generally turn out to be a waste of time and money.

[QUOTE=David_33;1378044]This happens everywhere, not just in the Filipines. A lot of guys are sucked into this from having watched too much porn. Threesomes generally turn out to be a waste of time and money.[/QUOTE]Not really. If the girls are bi it works out good. I have had situations where the girls keep on kissing and I go fucking both alternatively and have my way with them and also they give BBBJ together.

Unfortunately Phi girls are not into Bi things. They just pretend only. Phi girls sometimes hide in the bathroom while I am screwing the other. When I asked about both joining in the fun they said they are " shy " whatever it means.

Just to give you an idea. I'm talking to one of my DIA contacts and she said she has 1227 messages since August although she has deleted a lot of them. So who knows how many she really had. With so much competition you better find a way to stand out. And for me the best way to stand out is to be able to say that you are in PI now or showing up in the next couple of weeks, as many here have already said.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1378062]Not really. If the girls are bi it works out good. I have had situations where the girls keep on kissing and I go fucking both alternatively and have my way with them and also they give BBBJ together.

Unfortunately Phi girls are not into Bi things. They just pretend only. Phi girls sometimes hide in the bathroom while I am screwing the other. When I asked about both joining in the fun they said they are " shy " whatever it means.[/QUOTE]Maybe I am at odds here but I have no trouble finding 3somes and bisexual pinays who love to play with each other and do all sorts of naughty things to me LOL.

Mosre recently had 3 different 3somes all genuine, some were with there real life girlfriend (that the parent don't know about as a scandal).

I agree for many this is not 'normal' but eduacate them. I have a girl or two who will deviriginise them which is fun to watch as well. But many of the mongers I know here either have good success or don't like for personal reasons YMMV.

But I have the patience to educate LOL