FKK Artemis - Berlin

[QUOTE=Lrninnout;1601289]Can someone suggest a cheap decent hotel to stay at that is close to Artemis. Also, any info on what to do cellphone wise would be helpful. Can I rent one? Should I rent a car? [/QUOTE]Hotel. Discussed many times do search above on "hotels" eg Ibis, Kronprinz etc will come up, Berlin transit system so good not really an issue. Stay near Savignyplatz, or Stugarterplatz or near Zoo Bahnhoff, use Kayak or Booking or Priceline whatever suits your budget.

Car. Ridiculous to rent, use transit or bicycle. We're not in Kansas anymore, Todo.

Cell phone. Not sure what your question is. If you have a GSM quadband, you could buy a cheap local 15 Euro GSM chip and use locally as needed, to avoid non EU roaming reaming. If from EU country, phone should be affordable as is. US based CDMA phones will be a problem and you will face whopping roaming charges assuming (unlikely) it will even work. If really needed, you might rent one. But Skype or Google Hangouts an affordable alternative at a few cents per minute, with the caveat you have to be on Wifi to use affordably.

Of course, don't arrive without a copy of Herr Styles' Technocolor List of Lovelies and Damsels with Dorsals, to keep you on the straight and narrow. And practice on Kimino's Shark drone, discussed earlier this year. Really helps.

[QUOTE=Pistons;1601277]Well, when it comes to these lists, some of the sharky attitude comes back with all customers. Especially the customers who don't visit once a week or at least twice a month..[/QUOTE]There tend be more up-sell during summer low season in Artemis. At least this is what I experienced for July in Artemis, for August, I will find out how it is as it will be my first August visit to artemis, well at least weather will be good. It is a shame there is no out door open air place for session.

But I actually found Artemis line up quite solid with new girls flowing in from other FKK as a support (these are the up-sell girls), some of my best session were from low summer season from July. I accepted up-sell for those session though.

[QUOTE=Lrninnout;1601289]I'm hitting Berlin up finally for my first time this October. I am definitely planning on hitting Artemis along with some of the usual stomping grounds. Can someone suggest a cheap decent hotel to stay at that is close to Artemis. It's going to be my main stop so I want to be able to get there very easily. Also, any info on what to do cellphone wise would be helpful. Can I rent one? Should I rent a car? Finally, anyone want to go monger together (not as in tag team the girls, although I'm cool with that too)?

Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]As mentioned by Rocketboy0, public transport is excellent. Artemis is a quarter mile straigtforward walk from Westkreuz, a main hub station for S Bahn (Metro). Use google maps to get instructions.

So a hotel near any metro station will do. Savignyplatz is near tourist spots like posh Kurfrstendamm. Use booking.com or hrs. De.

Hotel Pension Ingeborg is really cheap, plain but good enough. Similarly, Hotel Adam is a bare bones clean pension house with decent internet for 30 to 50 Euro with breakfast. Your decision if you want a joint bath room it gets really cheap.

300 feet from Charlottenburg station. [URL]http://hoteladam.de/[/URL].

Day 8.

Artemis 140 (80 enter over priced and 60 girl standard).

Perhaps the rain blew in the poor attitudes and ridiculous up sells.

14. Nicole Czech Republic.

BBBJ, MISH.

I could not stay hard long enough my dick is getting to much exercise last 6 days and she was an up sell with too much make up and an ugly tattoo turn off! Perhaps if they had free booze maybe little different story.

She approached me and she was a tall girl with kinda bob style cute hair cut, big stupid tattoo on her back and a meaty looking exposed pussy! Not really 100% my type but honestly all the women I saw from 10 am to 3:30 pm we're not my type most looked used and a bit haggered! I got only the standard and could not bust nut with her at all! My dick kept getting flaccid from her fast and boring BBBJ I was board with her and her anal sex up sell tactics etc. Buffet was great jacuzzi and pool side area fantastic! Michelle half German half Columbian flap jack tits and haggered face tried to shark me into the usual two girl deal in the Kino while I was watching porn I wasn't really interested in fucking or getting blow job with her or any of her posse of friends and I asked her "can you leave please" this got her heated she started asking me if I'm gay and telling what I said wasn't nice. She really blew my mood! After all I asked her nicely saying "please" I went to tell the front desk and I'm sure she got spanked! Talked to the two Asians both from Hong Kong too old for my taste one had braces but not for me. Saw one Nigerian name Angel also not my type little too much meat around the belly I told her I was only looking for German blonde I probably shouldn't have told her this because I sat next to a set of two German blondes one with a few tattoos the other looked like a human sketch pad and they were trying to get me to try two (the girly set) mean while I see the stupid girl Michelle snickering about it sitting at the bar stool just across from me total! Anyhow I told them I was from California L. A. Got a quick surfer stereo type from one and they realized I wasn't going for the two girly up sell so they left me alone which was fine by me. The attitude of the women sucks only a few were ok to talk to normally! Found German girl Romy as I was leaving thought she might be my type since her body was nice and petite spinner type but face was a little strange up close just not for me. To wrap things up in a nut shell this place suffers from; Too much fake tits, lots of poor attitudes, Too much up sell, Most of the workers look used to me they were not young and fresh looking! Take a really close look they are not hot just full of make up, stupid tattoos, and bullshit and cellulite asses! I accidentally walked in the kitchen eat area while they were having a staff meeting and did not see anything amazing and I got a good snapshot of all the workers from that meeting in the nice kitchen lighting. I left and told them I couldn't relax and girls need to chill out with the ridiculous up sell and let the man relax. I also told them that I had a much better time at Dusseldorf Dolce Vita as girls were friendly very young and fresh looking and no up sell and no attitude plus beer and other alcohol bevs were free till 10 pm and GFE!

I will never come to this lame over priced and over rated spot again I've had better experiences and don't need to deal with haggered approaching mid 30's sex workers attitude and silly unprofessional up sells! T.J. Mexico is 10 times better with nicer women than this stale ass rip off spot!

[QUOTE=Geescummy;1602633]Day 8.

Too much fake tits, lots of poor attitudes, Too much up sell, Most of the workers look used to me they were not young and fresh looking! Take a really close look they are not hot just full of make up, stupid tattoos, and bullshit and cellulite asses! I accidentally walked in the kitchen eat area while they were having a staff meeting and did not see anything amazing and I got a good snapshot of all the workers from that meeting in the nice kitchen lighting. I left and told them I couldn't relax and girls need to chill out with the ridiculous up sell and let the man relax. I also told them that I had a much better time at Dusseldorf Dolce Vita as girls were friendly very young and fresh looking and no up sell and no attitude plus beer and other alcohol bevs were free till 10 pm and GFE!

I will never come to this lame over priced and over rated spot again I've had better experiences and don't need to deal with haggered approaching mid 30's sex workers attitude and silly unprofessional up sells! T.J. Mexico is 10 times better with nicer women than this stale ass rip off spot![/QUOTE]Yeah, in summer low season there tend to be more up sell, but usually it is not that bad with my experience. I found a lot of these girls who up sell are former palace FKK workers just coming into Artemis during summer as support.

Thanks for telling that to management as I do like more younger girls too. But based on what girls told me and also management I am some kind of friends with told me- I am aware that the girls who can work at Artemis must have some level of Prostituting experience else where, so maybe young girls is not what Artemis management are seeking for as their fkk girls. But right, I prefer girls to be more of early 20's than later 20's or early 30's. However, during more normal season, there are much less up sell than during summer season.

In closing, whole concept of FKK is set price for set plays that are promised as house rule, so I hope this trend of up sell for kissing etc that supposed to be set play will stop. I mean it is only bit more, but Artemis is already charging clients with higher price for entrance and also for sex menus, so it make sense if up sell stops. And service level will be more or less equal for all girls. You do get some amazing girls sometimes though, but it really is like lotto. You goto the room and find out kinda thing.

[QUOTE=Geescummy;1602633]

14. Nicole Czech Republic.

BBBJ, MISH.


[/QUOTE]Summer or Winter, Nicole is in my experience the worst at upsell, and not a good representation of the club. The one time that I took her to the room I left after 5 minutes. I had to say no to anal four times in that short time, and was not interested after that. It's a shame, because I like her look.

However, I'm surprised at your experience with Michelle, as I found her ok.

I was planning a trip to the club in August, but I might wait until September, when all my favourites should be back. I have fun at the club, but it is true to say that I am dependent on finding Nina or Fatima to be sure of a good time. I note that you like younger, but Nina, who must be in her thirties, is spectacular. I hope to find one or two more to add as regulars as it a convenient club for me to visit.

From an old report of mine:

[QUOTE]The first girl who approached me, I just saw a nice curvy body with black hair and when she approached I just realized it was Nicole with different hair. She was the last session I had on my last Artemis visit, back in November. Back then lineup was rather poor so I selected her although I knew heavy upsell was to be expected, and she fulfilled those expections yapping many times anal, CIM' when I banged her missionary to finish. Since I knew what to expect I did not mind and found it kind of funny. And thats exactly the story I told her when she approached, she was ok with it, I believe, was replying something like but how am I ever going to make 200 in half an hour if I don't ask? '. Haha.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she's an upsell queen. Unlucky if she was the first girl you met.

I recently spent a week in Berlin, and 5 of days at Artemis. It has been 2 years since my last post here, and 2 years since I was in FKK land.

I have been very torn about writing this rapport because, I think to much is written about these girls, and way to much of their personal life have been revealed some times. On the other hand I have learned very much from this board and I feel I have to give something back. And the recent bad experience posted here pushed me to post this. To show how different our experiences can be.

I hope this post can give useful information, without me feeling that I have betrayed the trust of the girl I have had the pleasure to spent a little time with.

I hope I remembered the names, and spelled them correctly. Please correct me if needed.

Friday

I arrived at the Artemis at opening time. I always do this, I like the calm of the daytime. And I stay until 10 or 11 in the evening.

Session 1, Shiva, DFK, daty, BBBJ, multiple positions, fingers, 60 min.

Showered, had breakfast, walked in to the bar. And Shiva stopped me, told me she is from Prague, she is short 150 cm, wonderful curvy body and C cups, very dark skin. She suggested to go to the kino, I agreed. DFK and blow job in the kino, then to the room. No up sell just informed me extras were available. Not a bad first session, but not fantastic either, Shiva was a bit intense for me, everything was full on from the start no build up, sensed she was not really relaxed, but very eager to please.

Session 2, Madelene? Daty, BBBJ, multiple positions, 60 min.

Was hanging out at the stair case, was approached by a German blonde, natural breasts, tattoo down her side, piercing above her lips. Said she was from Kosel, please correct me here, I might have her name wrong. Had to do 1 hour if I wanted kissing. I knew this would be a gamble. In the room only light kissing, her lips was sealed shut. No real chemistry between us, so not a super session, finished at 35 min mark, she wanted to leave. I pushed it to 45 min before leaving.

Session 3, Nina, DFK, daty, BBBJ, multiple positions, 60 min.

Had a coffee in the downstairs bar, had only been 45 min since the last session so was not really looking. As so many have suggested on these forums, my rule was to wait at least 90 min to 2 hours between sessions. But then a curly brunette walked up to the bar, introduced herself to me, enough have been said here about Nina so I won't bother. I know I had to go with her. Session is summed up in one word. Spectacular.

Session 4, Nina, Spectacular, 60 min.

Sunday.

Session 1, Nina, Spectacular, 90 min.

Session 2, Nina, Spectacular, 90 min.

After this Nina left Artemis for her 10 day vacation. But before she left she introduced me to some girls that might be good with me.

Session 3, Natasha, DFK, BBBJ, massage, 60 min.

Natasha is Russian, blonde, not really my type. But went to the room here because Nina said she would be good. Nice kissing, an amazing sensual massage where she used a combination of her hands, hair and tongue. Needs to be experienced, and the other girls could learn from this. But unfortunately here was zero attraction and zero chemistry so I could not even get hard. But stayed for 45 min for the massage anyway, before I broke it of and told her, and she understood. If Natasha is your type, I would think she is amazing.

Session 4, L something, daty, BBBJ, multiple positions, 30 min.

After Natasha, my little friend was frustrated, and I did something stupid, I went to the room with the first girl that approached me. I am sorry I don't remember her name, I think I started with L, she was brunette, very curvy, big natural breast, and from Hungary. Not much to say, sub par, 25 min suck and fuck. Not the girls fault, a session driven by poor choose and frustration.

Session 5. Jolene, DFK, daty, BBBJ multiple positions, 60 min.

At this point I was mad, frustrated, and depressed. And I don't really knew why. So I went to the sofa under the staircase and watched all the naked girls going up and down the stairs, to try do distract my mind, and purge my stupid feelings. It was not working. As I was about to leave the club and go back to my hotel. Jolene approached me, Jolene is tallish brunette, from Budapest, but living in Berlin, mature, not the best body. Jolene is also one of the girls Nina introduced me to. There was just something about Jolene that made me tell her everything that had happened to me. And she said that I should not go back to hotel feeling like this as I would be even worse the next day. She offered to go upstairs to improve my mood. This turned out to be a pure GFE session, she also suggested that Nina might have affected me more than I had realized. Since this was my fifth session, I could not get an orgasm. But I did not care Jolene fixed my day, and I went back to the hotel a happy man.

Monday.

Session 1, Jolene, Pure GFE, 60 min.

Session 2, Jolene, Pure GFE, 90 min.

Session 3, Shiva, very good, 60 min.

Shiva was hunting me, she made a point that she had been talking to her friend Nina about me, she gave me lots of couch time, and generally tried to hard. Because of this I was a bit reluctant, but eventually said yes. But I knew I had to take charge and slow her down a bit this time. So I started the session by telling her to stand in front of me hold my hands take a deep breath and relax. I started to kiss her real slow and soft, but she put her tongue in my mouth and twisted it like a mixer within 2 seconds. I stopped her, told her again to slow down, and do as I showed, this time she listened. And this little 5 min kissing session changed everything, she relaxed and got very comfortable, and got to my tempo of things, and the session was very good. Even after the time was up she wanted to stay for a cigarette. I don't smoke, but she wanted to and said it was on her time, not my time. So she smoked with one hand, gave me a massage with the other and we had a nice chat.

Session 4, Jolene, Pure GFE, 2 hours.

Last session of the day. Jolene shift ended at 8 but she stayed with me until 10. This was a cuddle session, must have cuddled and kissing for more then 30 min, I skipped daty, my jaws was hurting. After my orgasm, around the 1 hour mark. We stayed for 1 more hour just talking. Me and Jolene really connected on a personal level. This was to be my last session with Jolene as she was not working my last two days in Artemis.

Wednesday.

Session 1, A something, BBBJ, multiple positions, 30 min. Very bad.

Decided this was my "try girls without asking questions" day. Picked a hot brunette in sexy white bra and panties, natural be cup, no tattoos. Told me her name as A something, maybe Aleasha, sorry can't remember her name. Within 1 min of entering the room the up sell started, the short version, she wanted 150 euro for and hour for good service, otherwise I would only get very basic suck and fuck. On a principle to not encourage this behavior choose 30 min suck and fuck and cut my losses. I left the room after 15 min, after listening to her saying "come of me baby" for the last 10 min. In hindsight I should have saved my orgasm also, but my little friend had got started and refused to stop.

Session 2 Caroline, light kisses, daty, BBBJ, multiple positions, 60 min. Good.

Caroline, brunette from Latvia, smallish be cup, no tattoos, found me in the downstairs bar, she was very kind and did not try to hard. No up sell. Her sexy blue lingerie, and quiet personality won me over. All in all a good nice slow session. Only reason I did not repeat, was that she was a little to quiet and found her hard to talk to. And only light kisses.

Session 3 Shiva, 90 Min, Spectacular.

Shiva found me again, this time she had learned, she was totally at my level, very nice long couch time before we tried an outside room. Turned out to be an amazing session, we are talking Nina level here, she really changed a lot over our sessions. Again she would not let me leave at the 90 min mark, and we stayed in the room for an extra 15 min, this time I gave her a massage, on her time, as she said it.

Session 4, Cynthia, light kisses, daty, BBBJ, fingers, multiple positions, 90 min. Very good.

I was relaxing at the downstairs bar, when German Cynthia sat next to me and we had a nice casual chat. I had seen her around and had said Hello, to her before, but for some reason I had ruled her out. Even though she is very attractive, maybe it was her sexy black lingerie, or that she was just seemed more relaxed at this time. Of to the room we went, no up sell no pressure, asked about how long time I wanted, and as I always say, we take the time we need. She turned out to be one of the biggest surprises on my trip. Even with only light kisses allowed, she was very good and easy to talk to. To bad she was not there the next day. And I did not get a chance to repeat.

Thursday, Last day.

Had planned 3 sessions this day, as I had to leave the club after dinner catch my flight home. But it was extremely slow this Thursday and the lineup was not good for me. And none of the girls I wanted to repeat was working it seems. So I waited and waited, and got worried that my 3 session plan would fail. After around 2 hours a woman I wanted to get to know better walked in to the club, and my day got started.

Session 1. Lorena, massage, daty, BBBJ, multiple positions, 60 min. OK.

Lorena was highly recommended by Jolene, She is from Colombia, big breasts, and a firm little ass, mature. Again not totally up to my specs but I trusted Jolene. In the room we did not really connect, she was very nice to me but seemed to have her routine she followed, starting with a nice massage. Turned away when I tried to kiss, said she did not want her make up ruined, so I did not push it. So an OK session, but not something I feel the need to repeat.

Session 2. Marisol, light kisses, daty, BBBJ, fingers, multiple positions, 60 min. Very good.

Again someone I have seen around but had not really caught my attention. But after a little chat in the downstairs bar, I decided to go with here. Marisol is from The Dominican Republic, She is curvy, tallish, and augmented breast that suited here body. Again no up sell, no pressure. We started out in the cinema before we headed to the room. Had a nice time with her. But only light kisses on the lips.

Session 3 Turkish girl? BBBJ, multiple positions, cim, 30 min. Good.

If was now less then 1 hour to dinner, and my departure. And I decided I would go for one last session, but a completely different one. I wanted to end it with a good proper no frills PSE session. So I went in to the upstairs bar looking for the smallest tiniest little girl I could lay my yes on. I walked up to the smallest one I could find, and she was indeed tiny. She just asked, do you want to go with me, and I said yes. And off we went. I can't remember her name, but she said she was from Turkey and she worked at Artemis for 1 week at the time then went home again, and she had arrived that day. She is really small and thin, brunette and no tattoos, small very nice boobs. Maybe someone can help me with the name. No up sell, just an excellent performance just what I was looking for, with an cim ending, that I asked for. And since this was my 3rd session of the day after a 5 days in Artemis she really had to work for it also.

Had dinner, and off to the airport to leave fantasy land.

Epilogue.

OK so this got a bit long, sorry about it, but I guess people who are interested will read it, others can skip it. I just want to mention a few things.

I write this also as way to process my experiences for myself, not only to give something back to the forums. I know some of the girls do not like the attention they get on forums like this, but I hope was discrete enough to not upset anyone. There have been lot of experiences and details I have left out, as I feel that is between me and the person in question. I just want to add that there are some amazing people in these clubs that have made me forever grateful, and have enriched my life.

The new outside area is really nice, but the water in the pool was to hot, so I preferred the indoor one for cooling down in the Berlin summer heat.

On my last day, a group of 4 severely handicapped wheel cheer users arrived, And it was really cool to see the wheelchair friendly facilities was put to good use. As the guys could roll around in the club negotiation with the girls and talking with other guests. And it made me feel sorry for handy caped people in my country would not have this opportunity to enrich their lives.

Had a few experiences that shows how different these girls can be. There was petite girl, dyed red hair, really hot no tattoos. She approached me many times but I got a bad vibe from her. But finally I decided to try her, and asked here if she kissed. She just said "No, Never, this is a fucking club, not a make love club" and walked away. Also as I had been there many days I could feel the frustration from many of the girls I had turned down, and one of the large ones, just asked my why I only went with the ugly girls. I just responded, I only go with the nice girls and I walked off.

All in all I had a fantastic week in Berlin.

This is my first time on here.

First of all, thank you very much to all contributors, your experiences are very useful!

I am planning a visit to Artemis this Autumn, and have read lots of advices and reviews.

You guys talk about a messe / exhibition in which time the club will be very crowded, what messe and what time will that be?

Some of you also talk about summer low season. When does the "normal" season normally start?

Unfortunately my only opportunity is to go Tues. Thurs.

[QUOTE=Nr71;1602983]You guys talk about a messe / exhibition in which time the club will be very crowded, what messe and what time will that be?
Some of you also talk about summer low season. When does the "normal" season normally start?[/QUOTE]IFA: Sep 05 - Sep 10.

Innotrans: Sep 23 - Sep 26.

Usually summer ends some days, maybe a week or so, before IFA starts.

[QUOTE=Batou75;1602933]I recently spent a week in Berlin, and 5 of days at Artemis. [/QUOTE]Batou-interesting report.

I think there is a small lesson in your experience, that being, regardless of anyone's recommendations, whether reviews here or other girls, the thing that matters is your mutual chemistry with a particular girl. However experienced someone might be, in your case Princess Nina, their sense of how their friends will click with you is not really a useful guide. You have to take the time to talk with a girl first, and whatever else any 3rd party says or thinks, if you don't feel right in your gut, don't go to a zimmer. Don't force it, it has to feel right.

Saying no is one of the toughest and most useful things to learn in the Alte Fick Fabrik. Poon patience.

But overall you still had a good time so all ends well.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1603179]Batou-interesting report.

Saying no is one of the toughest and most useful things to learn in the Alte Fick Fabrik. Poon patience.[/QUOTE]Indeed, I understand this. But at times I felt that I said no to many times as well. Coming to Artemis with to much information is also restricting you I think, at least I felt that way I said no to so many attractive girls.

Sometimes one just have to take a leap of faith.

[QUOTE]But overall you still had a good time so all ends well.[/QUOTE]I say a very good time, I expected I would do some bad picks at times, and I did. But I do not dwell on those, as the the good ones more then made up for the bad ones. And some of them are simple life lessons and I will not call them bad at all, they just did not go as expected. As I said I had a fantastic time.

[QUOTE=Batou75;1603233]
I say a very good time, I expected I would do some bad picks at times, and I did. But I do not dwell on those, as the the good ones more then made up for the bad ones. And some of them are simple life lessons and I will not call them bad at all, they just did not go as expected. As I said I had a fantastic time.[/QUOTE]Well said and thanks for reporting!

Cheers.

Kimino.

I know that this might be the wrong thread to ask this but since I have been to Artemis on numerous occasions and enjoy the relaxed atmosphere I kindly ask the gentlemen of Berlin to recommend me which clubs to attend in the Frankfurt area. I will be in Frankfurt for two nights Sunday and Monday in late October. Correct me if I'm wrong but Oase and World is the bigger ones but is outside Frankfurt and Mainhattan and Palace is the best options in the city? Is it worth the money and time to travel outside the citycentre? I apologize for asking these questions in the Artemis-thread.

Oase is outside Frankfurt, a very large one; Mainhattan is a small but very nice one inside Frankfurt. I like them both.

I would say, if you would like to see a cozy ambiance, Mainhattan is pretty. If you would like to see a large number of girls, Oase is a good option.

[QUOTE=Toxteth;1604829]I know that this might be the wrong thread to ask this but since I have been to Artemis on numerous occasions and enjoy the relaxed atmosphere I kindly ask the gentlemen of Berlin to recommend me which clubs to attend in the Frankfurt area. I will be in Frankfurt for two nights Sunday and Monday in late October. Correct me if I'm wrong but Oase and World is the bigger ones but is outside Frankfurt and Mainhattan and Palace is the best options in the city? Is it worth the money and time to travel outside the citycentre? I apologize for asking these questions in the Artemis-thread.[/QUOTE]