Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Aey Annies;1327405]even if as a non Thai person you do not want to talk to a non Thai, we always have one Thai person that you can talk to as well. You have read from BJ and guru and me, you have a westerner and a Thai person that will listen at anytime to help, on all the business cards there is our numbers to talk to and our email address but better there and then.I think this is simple.[/QUOTE]With no disrespect for Thai, by all means, if I have to talk about a problem I prefer to do so with a "westerner" on the assumption he will understand better my issues and also I can express better. At the same token Aye is right in saying she is more appropriate to talk to her girls than a farang, manager or not. Aye has surely built up a broad experiences, can read through the lines and I am pretty sure she can discriminate the genuine unhappy guy from the professional non happy customer. There is always a percentage of guys who will never be happy. I know it from my job too.

I might understand the uniwllingness to claim in person for many reasons. But an email, with facts, a PM in here could do the job if one wants the service to improve. Then one can also post a negative comment to generically want guys, unless the girl has been so negative one wants to put her away from business. This applies more to FL. Girls in salon or MP should be complained with the salon, so they can address the matter. Mas Aye says: teaching her, observing her, firing her. This is also what the establishment is paid for, not just providing a room and a shower. That is for ST hotels, then.

[quote=rnehoo;1327687]my complaint will likewise, never be brought directly to bj, the italian pimp, or anyone associated with this creepy business, but it will be published to this very community, isg, so no one makes the mistake to spend time or money with them! me being a troll or not.[/quote]i think you should first try to get a bit more credibility in your "mongering credit history" (as in the banking industry) before raising the voice in such a strong manner. seems somebody at dr. bj pinched your toe and you sight for revenge. i once had a non excellent expire at annie's, did not file a complaint, mentioned here it wasn't exceptional, but nothing dramatic. this case is more of a no service delivery. how can the management know service is not rendered within the walls of the rooms if not properly reported? unless you expect the management to put cctv in each room to monitor what's going on. (hey, drbj, here's another marketing hint for you, a new franchise: "drbj peep tv", lol). would you fill then a customer report form when exiting the place?"was your dick properly licked?" "was the girl wet enough?". come on, be more credible or just account this as an unfortunate experience. no drama.

[QUOTE=Rick Rock; 1327406]. It's not solely an advertising service for massage parlors. If you don't like that, take it up with the owners.

The issues I had are quite serious and go to the core of the business in question:1. The girls wear costumes that do not allow you to see their bodies. 2. The girls have terrible bodies. 3. The girls do not give a nuru massage. 4. The girls are drunk and unenthusiastic, and don't know how to work in this kind of venue.

I already explained why I didn't bring it up with the guy on the way out. But I can expand since you insist. Beyond not wanting to get the girls in any kind of trouble, I simply didn't want to have any kind of contact with the curly haired European guy beyond what was necessary. I monger to meet girls not chat with creepy Farang pimps. One reason I no longer go to Eden is because I can't stand the prerequisite chat with the Frog who runs the place upon entry.

Anyway, it's not up to me to teach you how to run a business. You advertise a service (nuru massage) but in my experience, you do not deliver. What else can I say? If I go to a restaurant that serves terrible food, I don't go back and give the chef cooking tips. I simply don't return, and let others know what the experience was like.[/QUOTE]Same as we should complain with Jackson for what's going on here, one should complain with the salon management first.

If you think what the girls wear doesn't allow you to see their bodies, then step out and do not even try.

Seems also you have a bit of "racism" for anyone not of your nationality: the "European guy", the "frog" and so on. Did you lose a war few years back to leave you with such a bitterness? Do curly hair represents a negative factor in such a business (I don't have them, so I might stand a chance with you, and I am not even French!). The example on the restaurant is not appropriate: bad service can be noticed by everyone and food can be sampled by the management. What happens in a massage room is mainly between you and the girl. No one else knows about it.

[QUOTE=MountainDude; 1327436]Hi all,

Going to Bangkok in October. I am looking for a special kind of girl if anyone can help? Looking for a girl that I would hire for longtime X 2. She needs to be bisexual and want to come out with me to the gogo bars to find another girl to play with. I think this would be super fun! I like thin, petite girls that are medium busty, but definitely not flat chested. Also very open minded for BBBJ and CIM. If any one can recommend a lady it would be much appreciated. Chockdee![/QUOTE]Contact an escort service then. We are too busy discussing on Nuru and have no time to dig into the archives. Do you know that if anyone has such a girl available and happy about her, not necessarily she will be ok for you? It is a matter of chemistry and not only Thai bahts you can pay for.

[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1327988]I am not sure at this time where I will go, but I know for sure that if I see signs Nuru Guru, Dr. BJ and Eden I will avoid them solely based on predominantly negative posts on this forum. I will travel with my wingman who is not an ISG-er and I will also tell him what I read on this forum.

H[/QUOTE]I think it would be a pity not to look in on DR BJs (BJs and Nuru) and at least have a look. You don't have to stay (I walk out of more MPs than I stop in). There are two concerns. As it were, pre-service and service.

More information on the pre-service would be useful. I plan at least to have a look in early November when I am in Bangkok for 48 hours before going to PP.

I vote for a DrBj thread so that only those must read it who wish to.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1328030]I vote for a DrBj thread so that only those must read it who wish to.[/QUOTE]No . I think there is enough temporary interest which will fade. Another thread just complicates the situation.

[QUOTE=MountainDude; 1327436]Hi all,

Going to Bangkok in October. I am looking for a special kind of girl if anyone can help? Looking for a girl that I would hire for longtime X 2. She needs to be bisexual and want to come out with me to the gogo bars to find another girl to play with. I think this would be super fun! I like thin, petite girls that are medium busty, but definitely not flat chested. Also very open minded for BBBJ and CIM. If any one can recommend a lady it would be much appreciated. Chockdee![/QUOTE]Wow

You coming to Bangkok? Really?

I will go to airport to receive you with the girl of your specification.

OK?

Cost : 10000 Bahts a day + food + drinks + my fees.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1328030]I vote for a DrBj thread so that only those must read it who wish to.[/QUOTE]Does a BJ qualify as a Massage? If not Dr BJ reports (and Eden) technically don't belong in here anyway.

However if you mean that Nuru thing, I agree. I am totally bored by it, and hoped this thread wouldn't go as bad as the Bangkok Thread.

[QUOTE=MountainDude; 1327436]Hi all,

Going to Bangkok in October. I am looking for a special kind of girl if anyone can help? Looking for a girl that I would hire for longtime X 2. She needs to be bisexual and want to come out with me to the gogo bars to find another girl to play with. I think this would be super fun! I like thin, petite girls that are medium busty, but definitely not flat chested. Also very open minded for BBBJ and CIM. If any one can recommend a lady it would be much appreciated. Chockdee![/QUOTE]Many of us would know girls who can meet most of these specs but not all. My favourite fun girl in this category is not busty.

If I had a girl that was everything that you want, and she was georgous too, then I would just about want her for my new girlfriend and not be telling.

You could try "Dteuan" at Suzi Wong (yes busty) , but not sure if she would go LT x 2 and her character may not be quite up to the mark, to be totally fun for that duration. For the right money anything is possible. Failing her, someone else at Suzi Wong may be suitable.

In the end you will need to relax your requirements a bit. Perhaps "Aey" at Annie's would have the right girl?

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1328030]I vote for a DrBj thread so that only those must read it who wish to.[/QUOTE]I agree with this. That is why there are so many inquires for specific info on the forum. This is true for many ISG threads.

People get tired of reading unimportant posts, even though we have hard time resisting not to post our opinions about the hot debated stuff.

I suggest to add different threads, like Lounge thread on German FKK Forum.

H

[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1327983]One of the most glaring revelation this board has provided us is that business owners / managers who dare post and advertise their business and products here don't fare very well. Read some of the old posts and it's the same stuff as posted here in the past couple of days. It's not only the Thai forum, it's ISG in general. The guy in Columbia with the Mansion, the hip hop guy in the DR? (I forgot what forum he was on) the Penthouse hotel or any other business. Overall ISG members just don't seem to respond to well to these places when management is also a forum member. The one place that initially had a lot of positive reviews blew up as many members took exception to some to many of those glowing reports and a turf war developed.

Maybe it's just jealously and some people don't want others to succeed and we know people love to complain but whatever it is this just does not seem to be a place for owners who are posters. Look at a dump like SOL, they have so many positive reviews here but I bet if the owners of SOL started posting here they would get their butts kicked the same way others do. We all know customer service is tough business and advertising is good but you've got to wonder about the cost benefit for business owners who post and advertise their biz here. Seems like its way more hassle than it's worth to me.[/QUOTE]That is a very good analogy and I agree 100. We have business owners reading the Forum (some actively posting) , we have girls also reading the forum (Tulip girls surely do). I think this is a good thing; if I was a business owner, I would love to be able to read customer feedback as this is the only way I can correct my mistakes. I think this is the primary reason why some are here. Listen to what people have to say and then try and correct it.

As most people state in their negative reviews, they have NOT shared their dissatisfaction with the management for most part. Now how do you expect an owner to know what they're doing right or wrong if not via customer feedback? And if the people say nothing in the shop and leave disappointed, then come in the Forums to post about it, then I think business owners should all read it.

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1328248]That is a very good analogy and I agree 100. We have business owners reading the Forum (some actively posting) , we have girls also reading the forum (Tulip girls surely do). I think this is a good thing; if I was a business owner, I would love to be able to read customer feedback as this is the only way I can correct my mistakes. I think this is the primary reason why some are here. Listen to what people have to say and then try and correct it.

As most people state in their negative reviews, they have NOT shared their dissatisfaction with the management for most part. Now how do you expect an owner to know what they're doing right or wrong if not via customer feedback? And if the people say nothing in the shop and leave disappointed, then come in the Forums to post about it, then I think business owners should all read it.[/QUOTE]A lot has been written about why customers do not complain about bad service so that management can correct the mistakes. Problem is dissatisfaction is very subjective and can be difficult to describe even more so if the girl is standing beside you. Posting on forums later is a lot easier. Question is do owners take note.

The owners who say they would sort out the problem if they know about it but who continue to have a high level of dissatisfaction expressed on ISG are in reality being disingenuous. Those of us who frequent P4P's know the difference between those that care and those that do not.

Some simple clues.

Is the girl allowed to bring her phone to the room?

Are the towels, bedding and condition of the room satisfactory?

Does reception enquire in a truly genuine manner whether everything was ok or not?

Some venues rarely have problems. This is I believe because the owner cares and because the girls are properly vetted, well trained and know that the key to both her and her boss's success is repeat business.

[QUOTE=Run Mann; 1327983]One of the most glaring revelation this board has provided us is that business owners / managers who dare post and advertise their business and products here don't fare very well. Read some of the old posts and it's the same stuff as posted here in the past couple of days. It's not only the Thai forum, it's ISG in general. The guy in Columbia with the Mansion, the hip hop guy in the DR? (I forgot what forum he was on) the Penthouse hotel or any other business. Overall ISG members just don't seem to respond to well to these places when management is also a forum member. The one place that initially had a lot of positive reviews blew up as many members took exception to some to many of those glowing reports and a turf war developed.

Maybe it's just jealously and some people don't want others to succeed and we know people love to complain but whatever it is this just does not seem to be a place for owners who are posters. Look at a dump like SOL, they have so many positive reviews here but I bet if the owners of SOL started posting here they would get their butts kicked the same way others do. We all know customer service is tough business and advertising is good but you've got to wonder about the cost benefit for business owners who post and advertise their biz here. Seems like its way more hassle than it's worth to me.[/QUOTE]I think you have made a very astute point here. I read this and other forums to gauge customer reactions and address any questions people may pose. There are fierce reactions to almost all of my post's, for the life of me I really can't understand why some members make a stark distinction between an ordinary mongers report and a business owners. It seems every time I post a mongering report I spend 3-4 day's justifying myself as it is minutely scrutinized and dismantled word by word. Accusations range from self promotion, sexual prowess and a magnetic attraction which leaves every single Thai girl spell-bound and would make Aphrodite look like a rank amateur are just a small sample of the reactions I get. The vast majority of my post's regarding my sexual experiences actually promote other businesses and believe it or not are true and accurate. I will continue to post about my exploits because some people have defended my contributions and said they enjoy reading from a business owners perspective. After all I am reporting about my P4P sex life on a sex forum, but I will take great care to tailor my future reports to try to minimize presenting myself as a sexual Titan, Scottish or not. Now let the dysection and scruitinisation commence!

Regards.

BJ

[QUOTE=Dr BJ; 1328413]I think you have made a very astute point here. It seems every time I post a mongering report I spend 3-4 day's justifying myself as it is minutely scrutinized and dismantled word by word. Accusations range from self promotion, sexual prowess and a magnetic attraction which leaves every single Thai girl spell-bound and would make Aphrodite look like a rank amateur are just a small sample of the reactions I get. The vast majority of my post's regarding my sexual experiences actually promote other businesses and believe it or not are true and accurate. I will continue to post about my exploits because some people have defended my contributions and said they enjoy reading from a business owners perspective. After all I am reporting about my P4P sex life on a sex forum, but I will take great care to tailor my future reports to try to minimize presenting myself as a sexual Titan, Scottish or not. Now let the dysection and scruitinisation commence!

Regards.

BJ[/QUOTE]Since it seems as if you have somewhat of a fan club, albeit not all positive. You do seem to attract quite a bit of bandwidth when ever you post.

One would think that in a city like this, with all of the venues available there would be at least 10 reports a day. Instead I see many hits and flames about the class or quality of girl some one wasted an evening on, whether they paid too much, service was sub par, spelling, punctuation, on and on.

I personally like reading all reports. Since you do attract a lot of attention. Give the guys who don't get any action (or if they do, cannot articulate them) Something to do with their time instead of hanging at the beer garten. Write more.

Monte Trey