Medellin Reports

I've seen a video about streetlife in Medellin. Lots of shop fronts with girls hanging around waiting for a short time. Does anyone 'window-shop' and negotiate with girls like that to come back to your place? Or are they purely there to offer 'in-house' services?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2516517]I would rather negotiate for more time or more leches. I really like Blakman's approach - 2 leches /3 HR dates, drinks, food, etc. Non-rushed fun dates. It does not make any sense to me to pull a girl at parque lleras for 1 hour, if I want a quickie I would rather go to a casa or strip club.[/QUOTE]My typical approach is also having a 3 hour, 2 leche date. DFK, oral without condom, etc. Quickies for casas and strip clubs.

OK some guys think the guys story is BS.

The point of the story to me is to check ID's. Lets all do that and move on to trip reports.

[QUOTE=RichieSixx;2516611]Hey,

I am pretty new to this scene. Recently divorced after 20+ years and wanting to take a little vacation. I had some great times in Prague last year but unfortunately that's not an option right now because of Covid. I've heard about Costa Rica, DR, and of course Mexico but I was wanting to visit a country I'd never visited before and someone told me about Medellin. Does anyone have a particular hotel they recommend? Or part of town they would stay in? Again I'm an experienced traveler but new to this scene. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Congratulations on your freedom (the divorce). Typically, tourists stay in El Pobaldo, Laurales, (or El Centro for the more adventurous travelers).

If you need more info, RTFF (read at least about a hundred pages of this thread), and you will know everything you need to know before you go.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=RichieSixx;2516611]Hey,

I am pretty new to this scene. Recently divorced after 20+ years and wanting to take a little vacation. I had some great times in Prague last year but unfortunately that's not an option right now because of Covid. I've heard about Costa Rica, DR, and of course Mexico but I was wanting to visit a country I'd never visited before and someone told me about Medellin. Does anyone have a particular hotel they recommend? Or part of town they would stay in? Again I'm an experienced traveler but new to this scene. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]San Peters apartments in Laureles is a great place to start. They have reception and offer that security but it is 100% GF so no extra charges or funny looks or questions, they check the girls IDs so that gives you peace of mind. AirBNB or book direct, it is a managed condo so you either book with the reception or with a 3rd party owner, that sometimes makes a difference on time you can check in / out and how many times the apartment is cleaned depended on you length of stay.

Now that you are divorced I would assume you have more time on your hands to do research and read the forums for more info.

Spanish is not necessary but will make for a highly better trip in Medellin.

[QUOTE=Nongkhai;2516704]San Peters apartments in Laureles is a great place to start. They have reception and offer that security but it is 100% GF so no extra charges or funny looks or questions, they check the girls IDs so that gives you peace of mind. AirBNB or book direct, it is a managed condo so you either book with the reception or with a 3rd party owner, that sometimes makes a difference on time you can check in / out and how many times the apartment is cleaned depended on you length of stay.

Now that you are divorced I would assume you have more time on your hands to do research and read the forums for more info.

Spanish is not necessary but will make for a highly better trip in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Typically a first time poster is asking questions versus giving answers and good advice which is very refreshing, welcome to the Medellin board!

[QUOTE=RichieSixx;2516611]Hey,

I am pretty new to this scene. Recently divorced after 20+ years and wanting to take a little vacation. I had some great times in Prague last year but unfortunately that's not an option right now because of Covid. I've heard about Costa Rica, DR, and of course Mexico but I was wanting to visit a country I'd never visited before and someone told me about Medellin. Does anyone have a particular hotel they recommend? Or part of town they would stay in? Again I'm an experienced traveler but new to this scene. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You seem like a mansion guy. Check the 'casa blanca medellin' section. I encourage you to stay there for your 1st few days to get your bearings and some contacts.

[QUOTE=FatmanSlayer;2516662]That's insane they would kick people off a international flight for something as benign as talking on your phone. I would of been so mad LOL.[/QUOTE]I think it is still against the law. It can interfere with the plane's navigation equipment. That's why they say you have to be in "airplane mode".

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2516756]I think it is still against the law. It can interfere with the plane's navigation equipment. That's why they say you have to be in "airplane mode".[/QUOTE]The airplane mode thing is a federal regulation. Even if you feel is stupid I would advise not to mess around with a flight attendant. They can pretty much kick you off any flight for just about any reason and the airlines will do nothing about it unless it ends up on CNN, and even then they might not do anything. So yeah, wear your ask, turn off your phone and fasten your dam seat belt when they tell you and you'll be just fine.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2516770]The airplane mode thing is a federal regulation. Even if you feel is stupid I would advise not to mess around with a flight attendant. They can pretty much kick you off any flight for just about any reason and the airlines will do nothing about it unless it ends up on CNN, and even then they might not do anything. So yeah, wear your ask, turn off your phone and fasten your dam seat belt when they tell you and you'll be just fine.[/QUOTE]It used to be, "please return your stewardess to her upright position." LOL.

But those were the days when there were no "flight attendants" meaning no males, only women, and pretty ones, with the new term to include males, and there was no TSA, and you could smoke on planes.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2516756]I think it is still against the law. It can interfere with the plane's navigation equipment. That's why they say you have to be in "airplane mode".[/QUOTE]Right this is the reason why they ask you for.

It's about the safety announcement. Takeoff is not allowed if people use devices during the announcement. That is why they were booted.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2516770]The airplane mode thing is a federal regulation. Even if you feel is stupid I would advise not to mess around with a flight attendant. They can pretty much kick you off any flight for just about any reason and the airlines will do nothing about it unless it ends up on CNN, and even then they might not do anything. So yeah, wear your ask, turn off your phone and fasten your dam seat belt when they tell you and you'll be just fine.[/QUOTE]

If you read my previous report you'll know I'm building my mongering for this trip mainly around SA and Tinder. It has helped me prepare many possible dates before I even got to Colombia. I'm discovering that the key word here is 'possible'. Maybe it's an issue with Medellin women in general, but I've had several instances where I've set a time with a girl only for her to be a no show at the appointed time. Yes, there's such a thing as being late, but I draw the line at an hour. I actually draw the line sooner than that now.

The behaviour has led to several annoying situations where I'm caught on the back foot and scrambling to switch plans, and girl. Sometimes successfully, sometimes not. I've changed my approach though, I now require the girl to confirm our date back to me, and I'm working 3-4 girls simultaneously until one of them does so. At that point I also inform them that the time is sharp, and once we're at T-0, the deal is off. I may or may not be there to open the door when and if she arrives. I've also set myself the time of 18:00. If I don't have a date on site by then, I'll just grab a taxi to Poblado. I haven't had to use that option yet, but I'll do it sooner or later, if nothing else because I want to see the clubs and Lleras in full swing.

Medellin has turned out to be a bigger nut to crack than what I originally expected, so I've cancelled my plans to go to Bogota in order to get more effective time here. There will be more trips, and one of the things I enjoy is trying to get into the culture a bit. How do you cross the streets, pick up some language and slang expressions, get a couple of hair cuts, go shopping for difficult to find items, etc, etc.

Thought you'd guys enjoy this interplay. I wonder if she'll end up standing in front of my door.

[QUOTE=Maxum;2516868]If you read my previous report you'll know I'm building my mongering for this trip mainly around SA and Tinder. It has helped me prepare many possible dates before I even got to Colombia. I'm discovering that the key word here is 'possible'. Maybe it's an issue with Medellin women in general, but I've had several instances where I've set a time with a girl only for her to be a no show at the appointed time. Yes, there's such a thing as being late, but I draw the line at an hour. I actually draw the line sooner than that now.

The behaviour has led to several annoying situations where I'm caught on the back foot and scrambling to switch plans, and girl. Sometimes successfully, sometimes not. I've changed my approach though, I now require the girl to confirm our date back to me, and I'm working 3-4 girls simultaneously until one of them does so. At that point I also inform them that the time is sharp, and once we're at T-0, the deal is off. I may or may not be there to open the door when and if she arrives. I've also set myself the time of 18:00. If I don't have a date on site by then, I'll just grab a taxi to Poblado. I haven't had to use that option yet, but I'll do it sooner or later, if nothing else because I want to see the clubs and Lleras in full swing.

Medellin has turned out to be a bigger nut to crack than what I originally expected, so I've cancelled my plans to go to Bogota in order to get more effective time here. There will be more trips, and one of the things I enjoy is trying to get into the culture a bit. How do you cross the streets, pick up some language and slang expressions, get a couple of hair cuts, go shopping for difficult to find items, etc, etc.

Thought you'd guys enjoy this interplay. I wonder if she'll end up standing in front of my door.[/QUOTE]I has zero luck with Tinder on my trip last month. SA had a couple really good looking girls but they wanted way too much money so that didn't pan out. I'm heading down in two weeks but this time I'm going to focus only on FB and parque lleras girls. Maybe hit some casas.

[QUOTE=Maxum;2516868]If you read my previous report you'll know I'm building my mongering for this trip mainly around SA and Tinder. It has helped me prepare many possible dates before I even got to Colombia. I'm discovering that the key word here is 'possible'. Maybe it's an issue with Medellin women in general, but I've had several instances where I've set a time with a girl only for her to be a no show at the appointed time. Yes, there's such a thing as being late, but I draw the line at an hour. I actually draw the line sooner than that now.


Thought you'd guys enjoy this interplay. I wonder if she'll end up standing in front of my door.[/QUOTE]It's a cultural thing. Colombians are flaky. I give them 30 minutes or up to 1 hour if they are responsive. If they don't meet at the agreed upon time after 30 minutes I'm texting the next girl. I usually book 3-4 chicas in the same time slot expecting 50% to flake. It's the name of the game with SA or any other dating site.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2516906]I has zero luck with Tinder on my trip last month. SA had a couple really good looking girls but they wanted way too much money so that didn't pan out. I'm heading down in two weeks but this time I'm going to focus only on FB and parque lleras girls. Maybe hit some casas.[/QUOTE]I'm on SA. How much did the SA girls want?

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2516906]I has zero luck with Tinder on my trip last month. SA had a couple really good looking girls but they wanted way too much money so that didn't pan out. I'm heading down in two weeks but this time I'm going to focus only on FB and parque lleras girls. Maybe hit some casas.[/QUOTE]SA seems to be trending with a lot of pros now.

The same way it has in the US.

Use to be a haven for non pros and even normal girls looking to date gringos.

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2516914]I'm on SA. How much did the SA girls want?[/QUOTE]The highest wanted $300 dollars for all night and the lowest wanted $150 for one hour. If this was for California the price would be fine but for Colombia I thought the prices were crazy.

Price increase. Will be 65 mil per hour starting Sat. Jan 1, 2021.

I have not been there in more than 10 years. How is their current staffing?

[QUOTE=Methius;2517042]Price increase. Will be 65 mil per hour starting Sat. Jan 1, 2021.[/QUOTE]

The status parsing strikes me as splitting hairs. The site has always been full of girls looking for money in exchange for sex, generally at above market rates.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2516928]SA seems to be trending with a lot of pros now.

The same way it has in the US.

Use to be a haven for non pros and even normal girls looking to date gringos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2517003]The highest wanted $300 dollars for all night and the lowest wanted $150 for one hour. If this was for California the price would be fine but for Colombia I thought the prices were crazy.[/QUOTE]Seems like Gusto girls migrated to SA LOL. I'm wondering what makes them throw this crazy numbers given the current economic situation. Only very small % of mongers would pay that. The tourism is down, and I doubt they count on locals to pay $150/ HR. Heck, even top La Isla girls are 300 K.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517059]Seems like Gusto girls migrated to SA LOL. I'm wondering what makes them throw this crazy numbers given the current economic situation. Only very small % of mongers would pay that. The tourism is down, and I doubt they count on locals to pay $150/ HR. Heck, even top La Isla girls are 300 K.[/QUOTE]Providers are not business people and don't understand basic economics. In their mind, if business is down and not many gringo mongers customers around, instead of dropping their prices, they raise the price to try and make up for the lost revenue. It's stupid, but remember these girls are usually 18-24 with very limited education. Not Judy MDE but they are doing it in other places as well, like Jaco, CR.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517059]Seems like Gusto girls migrated to SA LOL. I'm wondering what makes them throw this crazy numbers given the current economic situation. Only very small % of mongers would pay that. The tourism is down, and I doubt they count on locals to pay $150/ HR. Heck, even top La Isla girls are 300 K.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=SubComm;2517060]Providers are not business people and don't understand basic economics. In their mind, if business is down and not many gringo mongers customers around, instead of dropping their prices, they raise the price to try and make up for the lost revenue. It's stupid, but remember these girls are usually 18-24 with very limited education. Not Judy MDE but they are doing it in other places as well, like Jaco, CR.[/QUOTE]Lets get real, these are basically barrio bitches who are uneducated and ignorant, dare I call them stupid, yes even the beauties are dumb as fuck that is to say 90% of them as every so often you will find one that is sharp and can hold a conversation and has a reasonable and balanced view on life and reality.

This being said gawd we love these barrio bitches. I invited one over last night from bello, a recommendation from my Colombian buddy, and she rocked my world, she is still dumb as fuck but otherwise a sweetheart.

Happy New Year all! I am still figuring out what happened to the 90's and the 2,000's and then the 10's hehehehe It is 2021 tomorrow and were we not all promised to be flying our own personal cars to get around by this year.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=SubComm;2517060]Providers are not business people and don't understand basic economics. In their mind, if business is down and not many gringo mongers customers around, instead of dropping their prices, they raise the price to try and make up for the lost revenue. It's stupid, but remember these girls are usually 18-24 with very limited education. Not Judy MDE but they are doing it in other places as well, like Jaco, CR.[/QUOTE]Why do FB girls, for example, charge / quote less? Same girls, just different platform.

I understand many of them are stupid, but at the end of the day they have to put food on the table, they have bills to pay. If they quote crazy numbers and majority of mongers pass, it doesn't require education to realize something is going wrong and they need to come down on price.

[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2516911]It's a cultural thing. Colombians are flaky. I give them 30 minutes or up to 1 hour if they are responsive.[/QUOTE]Bullshit. Why are you giving them excuses? It is not a cultural thing and they are not flaky when they have to take their ass to a regular job. What boss in the Stop and Save or at the office building is saying I know us Colombians are flaky because of our culture, so I better give Maria Aparacida another hour to get here? NONE!

Avianca does not give Colombians an extra hour to show up to the airport before the flight leaves because they know Colombians are flaky and it is their culture not to get somewhere on time. If they know it matters that they are at a place on time then they will be there. If they figure it does not matter to be at a place on time then they will say fuck it and get there when they get there.

You will be the lowest priority as long as you accept being the lowest priority and making excuses for why you are the lowest priority.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517072]Why do FB girls, for example, charge / quote less? Same girls, just different platform.

I understand many of them are stupid, but at the end of the day they have to put food on the table, they have bills to pay. If they quote crazy numbers and majority of mongers pass, it doesn't require education to realize something is going wrong and they need to come down on price.[/QUOTE]I think SA is newish to a lot of them. They see those sorts of numbers and try it on. SA would be seen as a higher price venue than FB and as their friends talk they probably know some that have got the bigger paychecks on SA. So they try. I don't think it is being stupid. What they get, and what they do, are another thing. Lots of them have done the Gusto's type market, the FB market, the street market in Lleras area, and they have done or know about prices in the casas, in Centro, etc. Etc. I think generally most of them know there these numbers as well as any of us on the other side of the market. They get what they can, when they can, where they can.

And you are right, eventually if there are enough of them on there and it does drive the asking and getting prices down they will know soon enough.

[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;2516911]It's a cultural thing. Colombians are flaky. I give them 30 minutes or up to 1 hour if they are responsive. If they don't meet at the agreed upon time after 30 minutes I'm texting the next girl. I usually book 3-4 chicas in the same time slot expecting 50% to flake. It's the name of the game with SA or any other dating site.[/QUOTE]I've had it explained to me by a highly educated Colombian professor. Teaching in my country. That Colombians do not view social type appointments as something you even should be "on time" for. If you have a house party, and invite everyone and say it starts at 5:00 it would be very poor form to show up much before 7:00. So I guess that's a cultural thing. As long as everyone is on the same page it can work I guess.

What I would take from that is to let the girl know why it needs to be at a certain time, and emphasize the time. If they process that they could actually be there within a half hour or so of the right time.

Most often they will only start to get dressed or think about getting dressed around the time the party is supposed to start. Add in an hour for that and an hour for transportation and 2 hours late would be pretty normal.

If you get your shirt in a knot over that perhaps some weed or something would be a good pastime while you wait. As in chill. Just my opinion. I'm not into trying to re-train a whole country.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2517115]I've had it explained to me by a highly educated Colombian professor. Teaching in my country. That Colombians do not view social type appointments as something you even should be "on time" for. If you have a house party, and invite everyone and say it starts at 5:00 it would be very poor form to show up much before 7:00. So I guess that's a cultural thing.[/QUOTE]This cultural aspect is true throughout Latin America. But her coming to provide a service to you should not be considered a social event. It should be considered if you want this money then you will be here on time, just like a regular job. But since guys accept them viewing it as a social appointment, then they will continue to get there when they want. It is up to you to be clear that being late is unacceptable and they will lose out if they are indeed late. Chicks actually arrive early when you make this clear.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2517115]I've had it explained to me by a highly educated Colombian professor. Teaching in my country. That Colombians do not view social type appointments as something you even should be "on time" for. If you have a house party, and invite everyone and say it starts at 5:00 it would be very poor form to show up much before 7:00. So I guess that's a cultural thing. As long as everyone is on the same page it can work I guess.

What I would take from that is to let the girl know why it needs to be at a certain time, and emphasize the time. If they process that they could actually be there within a half hour or so of the right time.

Most often they will only start to get dressed or think about getting dressed around the time the party is supposed to start. Add in an hour for that and an hour for transportation and 2 hours late would be pretty normal.

If you get your shirt in a knot over that perhaps some weed or something would be a good pastime while you wait. As in chill. Just my opinion. I'm not into trying to re-train a whole country.[/QUOTE]I hear this argument a lot, and I'm sure there is some truth to it. However try leaving them waiting sometime then watch your phone blow up. Lololol So much for "culture" when the shoe is on the other foot.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2517110]Bullshit. Why are you giving them excuses? It is not a cultural thing and they are not flaky when they have to take their ass to a regular job. What boss in the Stop and Save or at the office building is saying I know us Colombians are flaky because of our culture, so I better give Maria Aparacida another hour to get here? NONE!

Avianca does not give Colombians an extra hour to show up to the airport before the flight leaves because they know Colombians are flaky and it is their culture not to get somewhere on time. If they know it matters that they are at a place on time then they will be there. If they figure it does not matter to be at a place on time then they will say fuck it and get there when they get there.

You will be the lowest priority as long as you accept being the lowest priority and making excuses for why you are the lowest priority.[/QUOTE]I've always seen it as a power move, be it a puta or sitting in an empty waiting room at a physicians office (I love to walk out on those stoopid fucks LOL).

I've always said I wouldn't wait for a free blowjob from Miss America.

[URL]https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/contemporary-psychoanalysis-in-action/201605/why-some-people-are-never-time[/URL]

[URL]https://thepowermoves.com/when-someone-makes-you-wait/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2517054]I have not been there in more than 10 years. How is their current staffing?[/QUOTE]Usually 5 to 7 chicas, each with her own room. Some new faces. Performance normally good. Body types vary. Nothing approaching the flaca lineup at Zandaly, but at these prices, I'm astonished what I find.

I'm bored and getting abit ancy about my second trip to Medellin which I hope to make by Summer of 2021? So I'm just going to ask guys on here what type of mongerer they are and what kind of budget do they normally work with to gain some more insight and see if I should make any changes to my mongering style.

Type of mongerer: Casa's, strip clubs.

Quality & service of girls required: 6-8's in terms of looks and vanilla condom blowjobs and sex, nothing special needed for me.

Accomodations: Budget & hotel.

Budget: 2 week, $2 k USD inclusive of flight + hotel & mongering activities; $700 flight + taxi / bus to & from hotel, $140-300 hotel fee's & $1 k to $1. 2 k mongering fees.

I'm trying to gauge what other people on here typically spend & what activities they partake in to see if I should broaden my horizons and slightly up my budget or not if the services rendered are worth it. One thing I didn't get much of on my first trip was GFE's and didn't sleep with much 9-10's so I'm just wondering if that is too out of my budget or not, hoping to hear from all you guys.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2517003]The highest wanted $300 dollars for all night and the lowest wanted $150 for one hour. If this was for California the price would be fine but for Colombia I thought the prices were crazy.[/QUOTE]If I were like other guys on here, I would be screaming, what are you even talking by the hour for? you are ruining seeking for all of us!

But that kind of talk gets us nowhere. Men are weak in the face of a hot chick giving them attention and eventually seeking will be an escort site like is the case in the USA.

The purpose of seeking is a long term arrangement and not a quickie. If you look at the site and see a woman who has been on it for over a year and she mentions price per hour, then she is a WGand not a sugar baby prospect.

What I will say so guys not to do this is that I have succumbed to the hot seeking girl a few times and paid by the hour / night and I have never repeated and always regretted it. I think people who use seeking and pay by the hour are fools.

My last trip I was dating a girl from SA.

She was from poblado spoke perfect English and we had great chemistry.

As with other girls I'm not the commitment type so I just ended it during the pandemic.

However what I did notice is SA is not what it once was.

It use to be a haven for non pros and girls you can possibly date.

There are 2 things ruining SA.

First, just like all good things the pros are ruining it. They hear about their friends making sick amounts of money or being spoiled by tons of gifts and they go on there. I follow many hot girls on Instagram and most of them are on SA. They are friends with popular Fb chicas who use to charge 200 mil now all of a sudden they're egos tell them they are worth 2-300 usd.

Secondly, with the girls that are still gems it's the guys who make them insane offers. The girl I dated showed me her inbox and these offers included a million pesos per day for a weekend trip to Cartagena with all expenses paid.

So I'm sure this guy probably copy and pasted this to whichever girl he was interested in on the site.

There were other offers which were all within the 300 usd range.

So even a new girl with no expectations can gauge her price based on what she's being offered.

Not that hard to understand. They have another venue where they do somewhat consistent business, but charging considerably less (could be a casa, strip club, or just regular clients). This gives them more than enough to live on and they know they can depend on it being consistent. Then they go on SA and throw out very high numbers, knowing that every once in a while someone will bite on it.

There are always new guys and / or guys who are not well-informed (like us on this forum!) that don't know what a reasonable price should be.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517059]Seems like Gusto girls migrated to SA LOL. I'm wondering what makes them throw this crazy numbers given the current economic situation. Only very small % of mongers would pay that. The tourism is down, and I doubt they count on locals to pay $150/ HR. Heck, even top La Isla girls are 300 K.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2517143]I'm bored and getting abit ancy about my second trip to Medellin which I hope to make by Summer of 2021? So I'm just going to ask guys on here what type of mongerer they are and what kind of budget do they normally work with to gain some more insight and see if I should make any changes to my mongering style.

Type of mongerer: Casa's, strip clubs.

Quality & service of girls required: 6-8's in terms of looks and vanilla condom blowjobs and sex, nothing special needed for me.

Accomodations: Budget & hotel.

Budget: 2 week, $2 k USD inclusive of flight + hotel & mongering activities; $700 flight + taxi / bus to & from hotel, $140-300 hotel fee's & $1 k to $1. 2 k mongering fees.

I'm trying to gauge what other people on here typically spend & what activities they partake in to see if I should broaden my horizons and slightly up my budget or not if the services rendered are worth it. One thing I didn't get much of on my first trip was GFE's and didn't sleep with much 9-10's so I'm just wondering if that is too out of my budget or not, hoping to hear from all you guys.[/QUOTE]I am not sure what is your definition of GFE but I know you can get BBBJ or DFK from girls in strip clubs that ranging from 40 mil to 300 mil. You just need to ask to find out. I go to clubs often for the convenience and ambience as I usually am not on vacation and don't want to spend too much time making appointment and waiting.

I don't see many 9 or 10 in Medellin after the initial shock period. If you are already meeting 8 in casa with little or no makeup, I think you can make them 9 with makeup.

I worked SA exhaustively the month of December. If you are going on a one week or ten day trip don't waste your time with SA. Most chicas on SA actually want a sugar daddy. You know like one individual guy willing to give them lots of money and take care of them financially. If you're looking for a monogomous relationship then maybe it's right for you.

Facebook is better because it's mostly chicas from Bello and Niquia and they are down to provide a GFE experience for 200 mil plus taxi if hot body and even less than that if not so thin or hot.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2517155]My last trip I was dating a girl from SA.

She was from poblado spoke perfect English and we had great chemistry.

As with other girls I'm not the commitment type so I just ended it during the pandemic.

However what I did notice is SA is not what it once was.

It use to be a haven for non pros and girls you can possibly date.

There are 2 things ruining SA.

First, just like all good things the pros are ruining it. They hear about their friends making sick amounts of money or being spoiled by tons of gifts and they go on there. I follow many hot girls on Instagram and most of them are on SA. They are friends with popular Fb chicas who use to charge 200 mil now all of a sudden they're egos tell them they are worth 2-300 usd.

Secondly, with the girls that are still gems it's the guys who make them insane offers. The girl I dated showed me her inbox and these offers included a million pesos per day for a weekend trip to Cartagena with all expenses paid.

So I'm sure this guy probably copy and pasted this to whichever girl he was interested in on the site.

There were other offers which were all within the 300 usd range.

So even a new girl with no expectations can gauge her price based on what she's being offered.[/QUOTE]I do agree that SA girls are looking for sugar daddy for 300 USD for night or a day. Even women in mid 30's are looking for this amount with smoking hot body. Not sure if the pictures they post are recent or few years old. Anyway, I came in contact with a 24 years SA girl who lives in Bogota, smoking hot body, blondish hair and great boobs. 2 to 4 times a day we do facetime and once did video cam sex and I verified that pictures posted are real. Gave me an insane offer. Just 150 USD for 3 days or 500 USD for 8 days for entire duration of my trip plus I have to purchase round trip ticket from Bogota to Med that is only $57. Now because of the super insane low offer, I am concerned and doubtful if this girl is for real or she is playing games because other girls want much more. But on other hand, I think, what I have to loose, if she is bad in bed or have an attitude, all I have to do is pay her 150 USD and drop her to the airport. Lets see what happens.

I flew out Wednesday, Dec 30. My flight was at 3 pm. I arrived at the airport at 12 pm. There were two people outside the entry doors checking for the migration form. Unfortunately, I got stuck behind a woman with five kids, and she couldn't even find the passports for everyone. After about five minutes, another person came out and starting checking people in the line I was in. She looked at the email I received from migration and compared the name to my passport, and sent me on. At the entry doors, they checked my temperature. I have Preferred Access with Copa. There was no one in that line, so a very short wait to be checked in. The lines for stamping my passport and scanning me and my carry-on were short with very little wait. I was at the gate before 12:20 pm. The Copa club at MDE is temporarily closed. I have Priority Pass membership and it's accepted at the club that is open. The flight pulled away from the gate ten minutes early. In Panama, the Copa Club is open, but the only snacks were chips, cookies, and peanuts. They only had three brands of beer and limited wine and liquor.

Overall, the departure process is not much different than it was before Covid.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2517293]Gave me an insane offer. Just 150 USD for 3 days or 500 USD for 8 days for entire duration of my trip plus I have to purchase round trip ticket from Bogota to Med that is only $57. Now because of the super insane low offer, I am concerned and doubtful[/QUOTE]Dude that is not a super insane low offer. $150 is a lot of money in Colombia. The minimum wage is $234 per month and she gets to make half of that in 3 days. Or more than twice that in 8 days. Finally a chick trying to give a dude a fair price and he thinks it is a con. Forget about what stuff costs at home; think about what stuff costs in Colombia. No idea why you would import sand to a beach such as Medellin, but that is another discussion.

Thanks, I think I will swing by next week and have a long overdue look.

[QUOTE=Methius;2517141]Usually 5 to 7 chicas, each with her own room. Some new faces. Performance normally good. Body types vary. Nothing approaching the flaca lineup at Zandaly, but at these prices, I'm astonished what I find.[/QUOTE]

I've never had it go well when I pay all you can eat prices and make an agreement with a chica before I get there. Tell her you'll see her when you get there and then work it out after fucking her for a bit.

I am lost and confused if US $150 for a dud experience is considered an acceptable deal in any way.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2517293]I do agree that SA girls are looking for sugar daddy for 300 USD for night or a day. Even women in mid 30's are looking for this amount with smoking hot body. Not sure if the pictures they post are recent or few years old. Anyway, I came in contact with a 24 years SA girl who lives in Bogota, smoking hot body, blondish hair and great boobs. 2 to 4 times a day we do facetime and once did video cam sex and I verified that pictures posted are real. Gave me an insane offer. Just 150 USD for 3 days or 500 USD for 8 days for entire duration of my trip plus I have to purchase round trip ticket from Bogota to Med that is only $57. Now because of the super insane low offer, I am concerned and doubtful if this girl is for real or she is playing games because other girls want much more. But on other hand, I think, what I have to loose, if she is bad in bed or have an attitude, all I have to do is pay her 150 USD and drop her to the airport. Lets see what happens.[/QUOTE]

Anyone know of any safe outdoor atms in Poblado? Forgot the current lockdown is 2 days, and didn't withdraw enough cash.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2517293]I do agree that SA girls are looking for sugar daddy for 300 USD for night or a day. Even women in mid 30's are looking for this amount with smoking hot body. Not sure if the pictures they post are recent or few years old. Anyway, I came in contact with a 24 years SA girl who lives in Bogota, smoking hot body, blondish hair and great boobs. 2 to 4 times a day we do facetime and once did video cam sex and I verified that pictures posted are real. Gave me an insane offer. Just 150 USD for 3 days or 500 USD for 8 days for entire duration of my trip plus I have to purchase round trip ticket from Bogota to Med that is only $57. Now because of the super insane low offer, I am concerned and doubtful if this girl is for real or she is playing games because other girls want much more. But on other hand, I think, what I have to loose, if she is bad in bed or have an attitude, all I have to do is pay her 150 USD and drop her to the airport. Lets see what happens.[/QUOTE]What do you have to lose? $207. That's 13 casa visits, 6 El Centro fucks, 3 Facebook girls at 2+ hours each or 2 girls at La Isla with 2 beers and round trip taxi. It's all your meals for 15-20 days, or 3-7 days worth of lodging depending on where you're staying.

What do you have to lose? The chance to actually enjoy your trip rather than spend it trying to find a way to get out of an arrangement that's costing you more every time you turn around. The chance to actually experience Medellin.

What do you have to lose? Much more than that $207. Why? Because before your trip she's almost certain to need something and you'll feel that, since you're already considering spending $500 on her, another $30 for this and another $40 for that really isn't a big deal.

What do you have to lose? The chance to write about all your great nights in Medellin, because if the whole thing ends up being an expensive mistake, you'll probably not want to share the shame with everyone.

I'm saying this because I had the same idea about 6 years ago. I knew better than all the other mongers. I found a girl who wanted to just keep me happy for my whole vacation. I was already in country, in her city (in the Dominican Republic) and a few hours away from meeting her, when I came to my senses. She had already gotten $150 out of me for things she "needed" before taking off with me and I started adding up the other costs. I would have spent more on 3 days with her than I ended up spending for my entire 10 day trip. I made my excuses and got my ass to Sosua on the next bus and had a great time.

What I'm saying is, there are millions of women in Colombia. Why settle for one (that you have to spend money to even meet) before you ever set foot in the country?

By the way, $557 plus $40 for round-trip taxis from the airport to Medellin, plus meals, plus drinks, isn't cheap for 8 days (not counting the shopping she'll beg you to do for her, or the money she's likely to request before the trip). You'll spend a minimum of 2 months worth of the Colombian minimum salary for 8 days. Except it probably won't be 8 days. Somewhere along the way she's almost certain to have an emergency, requiring an early return to Bogota and she'll need the whole $500.

If after a couple of days of having thousands of options, you decide you would rather spend the rest of your time with one woman, pick one in Medellin.

[QUOTE=FatmanSlayer;2517344]Anyone know of any safe outdoor atms in Poblado? Forgot the current lockdown is 2 days, and didn't withdraw enough cash.[/QUOTE]Lots of ATM's around Oviedo Mall & across from La Strada food ct.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2517332]I've never had it go well when I pay all you can eat prices and make an agreement with a chica before I get there. Tell her you'll see her when you get there and then work it out after fucking her for a bit.[/QUOTE]Because we all get pussy stupid at least once. If I remember correctly, you once had a very expensive night with 2 girls after winning a bunch of money at the casino. I hate to think about all the money wasted when I was pussy stupid.

It's easy to get caught up in the fantasy, especially if you're new to mongering. Most of us haven't gone through life with gorgeous women begging us to fuck them and when they start talking about how much they want us, we forget that they're just doing their job. It's no different than a car salesman telling you how much the women love a guy in a new Corvette (if you pay attention you'll learn that guys driving new Corvettes almost never have a young, hot, female passenger).

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2517320]Dude that is not a super insane low offer. $150 is a lot of money in Colombia. The minimum wage is $234 per month and she gets to make half of that in 3 days. Or more than twice that in 8 days. Finally a chick trying to give a dude a fair price and he thinks it is a con. Forget about what stuff costs at home; think about what stuff costs in Colombia. No idea why you would import sand to a beach such as Medellin, but that is another discussion.[/QUOTE]Yeah, tell this to chicas quoting $300 per date. They don't care what the minimum wage is.

Just got quoted $300 by a pro on Tinder / SA, after I passed on her offer she blocked me immediately. Won't even negotiate) She was probably 7. 5, about 30 yr old.

At the same time, I have read trip reports, where forum members pulled freebies on SA. Go figure.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2517155]There are 2 things ruining SA.[/QUOTE]You forgot the mongers. I guess specifically me. I'm on vacation and not really looking for a SD / SB relationship, I'm about the single dates, and they're not even real dates in the proper sense. They come over, we chat and have a few drinks, then it's a shower and sex. Rappi afterwards is optional and depends on performance / personality. Those types of punters are going to steer the site in a certain direction.

I already told another BM in private messages that if you don't want to be shelling out $300 dollars you have to be ready to walk away. Don't fixate, play the field. I had a girl laugh me out of the chat when I offered 150 K only for her to counteroffer with 250 K a day later. I had a cam model that wanted $100 that agreed to 250 K, taxi and all the bells and whistles included. The only way you're getting free sessions is if you've put in the time to where you graduate from being a SD / punter to more of a friend. In essence, you're going to be paying either way. It works for me as I enjoy sex a whole lot more with a personal connection, and mutual enjoyment. At the same time there's something to be said for the type of interaction this board is built around.

It's not difficult to separate the semi pros from the pros on SA. If you're 3 sentences deep into a conversation and she starts asking about the arrangement. Yeah. If your latest message never gets a reply, she's got about 40-50 convos going, you just got lost in the herd. If you move her over to whatsapp and beyond the initial greetings she leaves you on read for weeks on end. She doesn't care about you until you're in Medellin, money in hand.

Then there's the 'send me money' schtick. I've had 6 or 7 of those. I don't doubt that they need money but it's probably not for the father with cancer in the hospital, and why leave yourself open to being taken advantage of like that. Some of them are on SA purely for the scam and never intended to meet with anyone, some are trying to open a separate income stream. It hurts when one of the best prospects brings it up, but you need to say no and either meet up when you've arrived (hasn't happened for me), or block her. If the 'no' doesn't lead to her blocking you herself.

There's a ton of white noise on SA that you need to sort through to be able to get what you want out of the site.

There's been some talk on the board about underage girls, and I want to reiterate to use your judgement as best as you can. I literally just met up with a girl that had her age as 19 in her profile, and who's cedula had her listed as 20. She was 16, turning 17 in two months. I would've never caught it, except she volunteered the information on a straight question.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517368]Yeah, tell this to chicas quoting $300 per date. They don't care what the minimum wage is.

Just got quoted $300 by a pro on Tinder / SA, after I passed on her offer she blocked me immediately. Won't even negotiate) She was probably 7. 5, about 30 yr old.

At the same time, I have read trip reports, where forum members pulled freebies on SA. Go figure.[/QUOTE]Why tell it to them? For every girl asking for $300 in Medellin there are 1,000 who will be happy with 200 k or less. Anyone wanting to spend $300, more power to them. They'll have no problems finding girls who will accept the money. But unless someone feels the uncontrollable urge to spend $300 on $40 pussy, there's no reason to go there.

I've read about guys getting freebies off of SA. I've also heard a guy tell the incredible story of his heroism during the Vietnam war, that would have earned him a Medal of Honor, except his mission was top secret. He was 11 years old when the war ended.

If you're looking for free pussy, go get a girlfriend. Keep track of your spending for a few months and you'll learn the actual cost of free pussy.

If you're looking for free pussy in Medellin first ask yourself this question:

"Can I go out at home, on any given night, and end up fucking a hot girl for no more than the price of a few drinks?

If you can honestly answer "yes", don't worry about it. Get to Medellin, hit the clubs and work your magic. If you can't say yes to that question, the ATMs all dispense Colombian pesos, so ignore anyone asking for dollars.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517368]Yeah, tell this to chicas quoting $300 per date. They don't care what the minimum wage is.

Just got quoted $300 by a pro on Tinder / SA, after I passed on her offer she blocked me immediately. Won't even negotiate) She was probably 7. 5, about 30 yr old.

At the same time, I have read trip reports, where forum members pulled freebies on SA. Go figure.[/QUOTE]My MDE post from 12.16. 20.

Couple great quotes from the Rio thread.

Quote Originally Posted by Sangnyc21.

I think too many mongers take this hobby too seriously.

From Vagabundo,

But don't over pay.

Or if you do, just consider it a donation to NAMBLA, and consider yourself dammed to Mab's ladyboy hell. Because that's where you belong. Your man card will be revoked if you overpay. You will get worse sex, and you will skew the market.

The Brazilians have made a whole economy of stupid gringos who overpay.

Go ahead.

You have been warned.

Then from omicron gamma.

The senior members have spoken, are $400 pernoite. Let's learn the lesson from Marrakech. 5-7 years ago US $50 would get you an all nighter, then the British weekend millionaires and guys from the Middle East started acting stupid. It got to the point where girls in the club were asking for US $300 and confidently holding out for it. Street girls wanted US $100 for a short time. It just got out of control if you didn't have regulars.

Let's not ruin a good thing.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2517320]Dude that is not a super insane low offer. $150 is a lot of money in Colombia. The minimum wage is $234 per month and she gets to make half of that in 3 days. Or more than twice that in 8 days. Finally a chick trying to give a dude a fair price and he thinks it is a con. Forget about what stuff costs at home; think about what stuff costs in Colombia. No idea why you would import sand to a beach such as Medellin, but that is another discussion.[/QUOTE]Yup. Something is really off when a hobbyist thinks $150 USD (albeit for three days) is a "super insane (low) price.

And the "minimum wage" in Colombia is a misnomer. That's what a huge % of the populace makes and many make less. It's not like the minimum wage in the US where a small % of the population earn that.

And the guy doesn't even know this chica. Pay her upfront and it's very unlikely she actually hangs with him for three days.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2517293]Gave me an insane offer. Just 150 USD for 3 days or 500 USD for 8 days for entire duration of my trip plus I have to purchase round trip ticket from Bogota to Med that is only $57. Now because of the super insane low offer, I am concerned and doubtful if this girl is for real or she is playing games because other girls want much more. But on other hand, I think, what I have to loose, if she is bad in bed or have an attitude, all I have to do is pay her 150 USD and drop her to the airport. Lets see what happens.[/QUOTE]Sigh. No, an insane offer is getting that for nothing. I keep saying this and you guys do not listen: do not offer anything to SA women. You guys are so used to paying for it that you do not realize these women will fuck you without an offer on the table. The best SA fucks have been when I meet them, fuck them, and give them a gift after. The worst ones are when there is a price. Once you set a price, the women do not think they have to perform.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2517293]I do agree that SA girls are looking for sugar daddy for 300 USD for night or a day. Even women in mid 30's are looking for this amount with smoking hot body. Not sure if the pictures they post are recent or few years old. Anyway, I came in contact with a 24 years SA girl who lives in Bogota, smoking hot body, blondish hair and great boobs. 2 to 4 times a day we do facetime and once did video cam sex and I verified that pictures posted are real. Gave me an insane offer. Just 150 USD for 3 days or 500 USD for 8 days for entire duration of my trip plus I have to purchase round trip ticket from Bogota to Med that is only $57. Now because of the super insane low offer, I am concerned and doubtful if this girl is for real or she is playing games because other girls want much more. But on other hand, I think, what I have to loose, if she is bad in bed or have an attitude, all I have to do is pay her 150 USD and drop her to the airport. Lets see what happens.[/QUOTE]You're buying a high priced lottery ticket that's highly unlikely to pan out. Who knows what the * she is really like? Would you buy a car unseen from someone you've never met before? Is there a shortage of girls on SA that are actually in MDE? I'm in Bogota on SA. I'm not looking at all at MDE women. When I have plans to go to MDE, I'll entertain girls from MDE. And I definitely won't fly them out to me. Now if they want to pay their way and meet me somewhere. Great.

My suggestion is to refocus your attention on girls in MDE where you actually are. Then make some plans to go to Bogota and when you're in Bogota, make plans to meet with this awesome chica. If she turns out to be really cool, then pay her fee of $150 usd for 3 days. That's a steal.

Hello guys,

Have been out of the picture most of this year and haven't been down south since fall of 2019. Curious what they did with all the casa's in el centro and surrounding areas? I prefer the walking daily tour of fun as compared to a date. Haven't really seen it mentioned here at the moment. Thanks.

Cheers.

Sky.

[QUOTE=JohnReter335;2516795]Right this is the reason why they ask you for.[/QUOTE]Yes still the law and No it doesn't not mess with Nav equipment. I'm commercial rated and my friends fly the bitching cargo, my friends have all have their devices running all the time.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2517227]I worked SA exhaustively the month of December. If you are going on a one week or ten day trip don't waste your time with SA. Most chicas on SA actually want a sugar daddy. You know like one individual guy willing to give them lots of money and take care of them financially. If you're looking for a monogomous relationship then maybe it's right for you.

Facebook is better because it's mostly chicas from Bello and Niquia and they are down to provide a GFE experience for 200 mil plus taxi if hot body and even less than that if not so thin or hot.[/QUOTE]This is definitely true. A lot of my contacts from facebook are from bello. I met with 2 different girls from there at different times, and it turned out those 2 girls were best friends. Probably the facebook bello girls all know each other.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2517389]Why tell it to them? For every girl asking for $300 in Medellin there are 1,000 who will be happy with 200 k or less. Anyone wanting to spend $300, more power to them. They'll have no problems finding girls who will accept the money. But unless someone feels the uncontrollable urge to spend $300 on $40 pussy, there's no reason to go there.

I've read about guys getting freebies off of SA. I've also heard a guy tell the incredible story of his heroism during the Vietnam war, that would have earned him a Medal of Honor, except his mission was top secret. He was 11 years old when the war ended.

If you're looking for free pussy, go get a girlfriend. Keep track of your spending for a few months and you'll learn the actual cost of free pussy.

If you're looking for free pussy in Medellin first ask yourself this question:

"Can I go out at home, on any given night, and end up fucking a hot girl for no more than the price of a few drinks?

If you can honestly answer "yes", don't worry about it. Get to Medellin, hit the clubs and work your magic. If you can't say yes to that question, the ATMs all dispense Colombian pesos, so ignore anyone asking for dollars.[/QUOTE]Too many guys come here thinking they're going to pull a hot ass Colombian girl and become their savior. Thinking just because they are a gringo with their gringo money all women want them.

This is the farthest from the truth.

If you're a decent looking guy with good style even in the game of mongering these pros will feel more comfortable around you and yes your mileage with them might be higher than the next guy.

This is about mongering and paying to fuck.

At the end of the day, pay what you want and just have fun.

A woman has the right to charge whatever she wants and we have the right to refuse and accept the offer.

Have you ever considered a really hot girl who isn't completely a pro says to herself "it'll take me 300 usd to bang this old guy who repulses me " and at times says " yea I'll bang this guy just for dinner cause I can enjoy sex with him as well".

I've seen girls in Gustos turn down potential clients.

So let's stick to useful info that can help each other.

It would be great if we can start threads to review girls on Seeking and FB.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2517389]Why tell it to them? For every girl asking for $300 in Medellin there are 1,000 who will be happy with 200 k or less. Anyone wanting to spend $300, more power to them. They'll have no problems finding girls who will accept the money. But unless someone feels the uncontrollable urge to spend $300 on $40 pussy, there's no reason to go there. If you're looking for free pussy, go get a girlfriend. Keep track of your spending for a few months and you'll learn the actual cost of free pussy. [/QUOTE]That is fine advice, and I agree with every word of it.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2517389]I've read about guys getting freebies off of SA. I've also heard a guy tell the incredible story of his heroism during the Vietnam war, that would have earned him a Medal of Honor, except his mission was top secret. He was 11 years old when the war ended.[/QUOTE]This is the problem with you. You want to be Mr. Know it All even with things you do not get. Have you ever used seeking in Colombia? I do not think you have. The purpose of it is long term relationships not quick fucks.

Before I knew what I was doing, I was like the OP who thought he was getting a good deal. Hell, I paid out even more than $150 and flew a girl into Bogota from a close by city. We fucked like dogs in heat for days. She then told me she loved me and offered the money back to me! I insisted she keep it. Why the fuck would I make that up?

The girl I have met from SA that I am closest to has refused any cash from me. She has been adamant with doing so because she wants to make it perfectly clear to her friends and family and me that she is not with me for money. I gave her $500 because that supposedly is the amount you need to travel to Mexico. When I looked to get us tickets to Cancun, I asked her if she still had the money, she proudly showed me that she had all of it, yet there are still some of you here who think this girl is the same as some centro druggie. Why? Based on your vast experience with seeking women? Do you think a Centro druggie would hang onto $500 and not spend any of it?

Another seeking woman I met fucked the shit out of me before she got a penny. I put a gift in her purse at the end and Mr. E rightfully chastised me: Don't give money to women who are not working girls. THAT is sage advice.

Yes, there are working girls on seeking. Yes, there are men who use it and are johns. As of now though, the majority of women I have met in Colombia on seeking have not been on dates with ANY men. They are not working girls looking for short term quickies. They are classy women looking for long term relationships or arrangements.

Don Carlos has been rightly saying you all do not want to believe that these stunning, high class women can want to be with older men for little to no money. We have tried to tell you all differently but we are shouted down. If you do not want to believe it or are too cheap to spend a $100 for membership, that is your fucking problem.

Making a comparison between picking up women from an American bar and a woman off seeking in Colombia? Shiiiit, I cannot think of two more different experiences.

YOU should be the one blocking her immediately. A 30 yo 7. 5 can be gotten no problem for 50k-100k pesos. Why do guys even subject themselves to this humiliation!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517368]Yeah, tell this to chicas quoting $300 per date. They don't care what the minimum wage is.

Just got quoted $300 by a pro on Tinder / SA, after I passed on her offer she blocked me immediately. Won't even negotiate) She was probably 7. 5, about 30 yr old.

At the same time, I have read trip reports, where forum members pulled freebies on SA. Go figure.[/QUOTE]Read Kazeu's last point and let it sink in. Bargaining ahead of time for multiple days is absurd. It's basically doing things backwards. You have no idea what the chica is like in person. Meet her first and test drive her for an hour or two. If you get along well, then maybe arrange something for a longer period of time.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2517429]You're buying a high priced lottery ticket that's highly unlikely to pan out. Who knows what the * she is really like? Would you buy a car unseen from someone you've never met before? Is there a shortage of girls on SA that are actually in MDE? I'm in Bogota on SA. I'm not looking at all at MDE women. When I have plans to go to MDE, I'll entertain girls from MDE. And I definitely won't fly them out to me. Now if they want to pay their way and meet me somewhere. Great.

My suggestion is to refocus your attention on girls in MDE where you actually are. Then make some plans to go to Bogota and when you're in Bogota, make plans to meet with this awesome chica. If she turns out to be really cool, then pay her fee of $150 usd for 3 days. That's a steal.[/QUOTE]

This is one of the best SA posts I've read in a while.

[QUOTE=Maxum;2517387]You forgot the mongers. I guess specifically me. I'm on vacation and not really looking for a SD / SB relationship, I'm about the single dates, and they're not even real dates in the proper sense. They come over, we chat and have a few drinks, then it's a shower and sex. Rappi afterwards is optional and depends on performance / personality. Those types of punters are going to steer the site in a certain direction.

I already told another BM in private messages that if you don't want to be shelling out $300 dollars you have to be ready to walk away. Don't fixate, play the field. I had a girl laugh me out of the chat when I offered 150 K only for her to counteroffer with 250 K a day later. I had a cam model that wanted $100 that agreed to 250 K, taxi and all the bells and whistles included. The only way you're getting free sessions is if you've put in the time to where you graduate from being a SD / punter to more of a friend. In essence, you're going to be paying either way. It works for me as I enjoy sex a whole lot more with a personal connection, and mutual enjoyment. At the same time there's something to be said for the type of interaction this board is built around.

It's not difficult to separate the semi pros from the pros on SA. If you're 3 sentences deep into a conversation and she starts asking about the arrangement. Yeah. If your latest message never gets a reply, she's got about 40-50 convos going, you just got lost in the herd. If you move her over to whatsapp and beyond the initial greetings she leaves you on read for weeks on end. She doesn't care about you until you're in Medellin, money in hand.

Then there's the 'send me money' schtick. I've had 6 or 7 of those. I don't doubt that they need money but it's probably not for the father with cancer in the hospital, and why leave yourself open to being taken advantage of like that. Some of them are on SA purely for the scam and never intended to meet with anyone, some are trying to open a separate income stream. It hurts when one of the best prospects brings it up, but you need to say no and either meet up when you've arrived (hasn't happened for me), or block her. If the 'no' doesn't lead to her blocking you herself.

There's a ton of white noise on SA that you need to sort through to be able to get what you want out of the site.

There's been some talk on the board about underage girls, and I want to reiterate to use your judgement as best as you can. I literally just met up with a girl that had her age as 19 in her profile, and who's cedula had her listed as 20. She was 16, turning 17 in two months. I would've never caught it, except she volunteered the information on a straight question.[/QUOTE]

It's a way to kill time between trips.

[QUOTE=Combo;2517455]YOU should be the one blocking her immediately. A 30 yo 7. 5 can be gotten no problem for 50k-100k pesos. Why do guys even subject themselves to this humiliation!

Read Kazeu's last point and let it sink in. Bargaining ahead of time for multiple days is absurd. It's basically doing things backwards. You have no idea what the chica is like in person. Meet her first and test drive her for an hour or two. If you get along well, then maybe arrange something for a longer period of time.[/QUOTE]

Question about Seeking Arrangements. I just decided to download the app after reading all the comments about it. Sent a couple messages and just got a message. It says though "upgrade to read". There might be a couple but I know not everyone is paying a $100 a month.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2517446]Too many guys come here thinking they're going to pull a hot ass Colombian girl and become their savior. Thinking just because they are a gringo with their gringo money all women want them.

This is the farthest from the truth.

If you're a decent looking guy with good style even in the game of mongering these pros will feel more comfortable around you and yes your mileage with them might be higher than the next guy.

This is about mongering and paying to fuck.

At the end of the day, pay what you want and just have fun.

A woman has the right to charge whatever she wants and we have the right to refuse and accept the offer.

Have you ever considered a really hot girl who isn't completely a pro says to herself "it'll take me 300 usd to bang this old guy who repulses me " and at times says " yea I'll bang this guy just for dinner cause I can enjoy sex with him as well".[/QUOTE]I shared this post a few weeks back but it got buried. I think because I hadn't posted in a while so the admins needed to review. Either way, I tried to be as detailed and open as I could. Hope it helps shed some light on the subject. I was a bit naive and learned a good lesson.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2511815&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2511815.

[QUOTE=Yetiecv;2517485]Question about Seeking Arrangements. I just decided to download the app after reading all the comments about it. Sent a couple messages and just got a message. It says though "upgrade to read". There might be a couple but I know not everyone is paying a $100 a month.[/QUOTE]Exactly, it cost $99 per month for men.

I did not know it costs $100/ month to use that site. I can think of many more interesting ways to spend $100.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2517621]Exactly, it cost $99 per month for men.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2517626]I did not know it costs $100/ month to use that site. I can think of many more interesting ways to spend $100.[/QUOTE]Exactly. It makes sense why some guys say they're charged a enormous amount on seeking arrangements. If they know people are paying $99 a month to use it then the people who use it are insinuating they're willing to pay more than the going rate. Especially when there are much cheaper ways around.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2517626]I did not know it costs $100/ month to use that site. I can think of many more interesting ways to spend $100.[/QUOTE]Yep, $99.99 USD / Month. The price went up January 1st, I think it was $80/ Month before.

Even if it was $40/ Month it would still be too much for this cheapy charlie although I did join and get verified. LOL.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2517626]I did not know it costs $100/ month to use that site. I can think of many more interesting ways to spend $100.[/QUOTE]Pay $100 for the chance to talk to 100 women or talk to the other 10,000 for free?

[QUOTE=Luminus;2517662]Yep, $99.99 USD / Month. The price went up January 1st, I think it was $80/ Month before.

Even if it was $40/ Month it would still be too much for this cheapy charlie although I did join and get verified. LOL.[/QUOTE]Its free for women, but Men have to pay.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2517626]I did not know it costs $100/ month to use that site. I can think of many more interesting ways to spend $100.[/QUOTE]It's a YMMV situation. There are different observations made about SA. I think they are all true, including what you said. The result depends on how you filter and use it.

The site is run by a bunch of schizos. Ever since the clamp down on online prostitution, they tried to have it both ways, portraying themselves as another [URL]match.com[/URL], or a dating site. They changed their name back and forth from Seeking Arrangement to simply Seeking and now back to Seeking Arrangement. They suspend or kick people off with little or no cause. Any suspicion of soliciting sex and you're suspended. Mind you, just a suspicion. And you're out the fee unless you dispute it. It is best to take any conversation off site immediately.

Having said that, I have a love / hate relationship with the site, though I think I'm done. $100 is the monthly charge now for being able to read and send messages. A free membership is basically worthless without being able to message. It served its purpose for me. That is, having various sugar daddy arrangements. In the US, I eventually stopped using it since the women generally wanted too much and it was too much of a hassle negotiating. Colombia was a breath of fresh air up until fairly recently. I live in Medellin now and I prefer regular arrangements. Especially during the pandemic. Granted, it's still highly risky, but less risky than seeing a plethora of women.

Now that they've raised their fee once again, I doubt I will use them in the future. I thought it was overpriced when it was half the amount. I don't know of a more expensive site, especially one where management treats its members so poorly. Previously, I would become a premium member for a month every so often and be happy if I found one good arrangement. But $100 now? There are other sites, particularly Tinder. I find little difference in the type of women, and many women use both. I find with Tinder you can pretty much find whatever you're looking for from a flat out escort to a regular arrangement. Many women look for quick money and want to get together immediately. It's free, but I find it more effective to use boosts every are about $5. After every boost, I get a bunch of decent matches if done at the right time of day.

A bunch has been said about cost of SA. In Colombia, I never paid the kind of prices mentioned here, $150 to $300. I never negotiate in dollars and at this point, I don't have any. You're marked as a tourist and the price is automatically increased. The most I ever paid was 250 mil, though normally around 150 + taxis. That's still a bit high, but you get what you pay for. Tinder is less, starting at 100 mil. Anyone that asks for more, I negotiate or move on.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2517686]It's a YMMV situation. There are different observations made about SA. I think they are all true, including what you said. The result depends on how you filter and use it.[/QUOTE]Seeking is a costly endeavor — more so in time even than money. And whether you should use it or not probably depends primarily on three things:

1. Your country. If you are in Medellin it's IMO a waste of time because there is SO MUCH cheap and beautiful pussy available. SA is simply not worth the time or expense there. Same for most countries where prostitution is legal. On the other hand in the US aka Pussy Prison, Seeking is amazing. It's only place your going to find good looking girls willing to fuck you if you follow the rules (which are very much the OPPOSITE of picking up a hooker.) at a reasonable price (for USA).

2. Your time. It takes a TON of time to sort the wheat from the chaff. Like 10-20 hours a week. I personally enjoy it so that's not a downside for me. But if you don't have the time to browse chat, eject, repeat then SA won't work for you.

3. Your Style. Some guys are just down to grab a girl fuck and leave an hour later. Other guys like to go to dinner and dance and drink and smoke hookah and then fuck. And if you are lucky she might just sleep over. Your not getting any of that with a hooker (at least in most countries) unless you are paying ridiculous hourly rates.

There's a whole discussion group on this here on ISG. If you are US based you should check it out. It's a bit of an art form finding And cultivating the girls. But many of us are available to help. Just ask.

P.S. Keep rocking it out in MDE guys.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2517722]If you are in Medellin it's IMO a waste of time because there is SO MUCH cheap and beautiful pussy available.[/QUOTE]Sorry I disagree Steve. If you want to fuck a beauty queen, a lawyer, doctor, a university student or have a long term relationship, then using seeking is a good value.

When I say beauty queen, I mean a literal pageant winner not an attractive woman.

But if a woman is a beauty queen, doctor, lawyer, or university student, that does not mean she is a better fuck than a hooker. You are way more likely find a better looking, better performing hooker in a club, casa, or on the street than seeking. It takes time to find a great fuck off seeking.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2517722]Your time. It takes a TON of time to sort the wheat from the chaff. Like 10-20 hours a week.[/QUOTE]I agree. I would also add you have the frustration of getting blown off and then meeting women not interested in fucking you. There are too many women in Colombia that are sure things on the street, at casas or at strip clubs. If you are just interested in sex with hot women, messing with woman online is a waste of time as is the $100 per month membership fee.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2517722]3. Your Style. Some guys are just down to grab a girl fuck and leave an hour later. Other guys like to go to dinner and dance and drink and smoke hookah and then fuck. And if you are lucky she might just sleep over. Your not getting any of that with a hooker (at least in most countries) unless you are paying ridiculous hourly rates.[/QUOTE]Colombia is not the USA. I have found plenty of working women willing to dine, dance, do hookah, or travel with me just for the cost of a meal, ticket, or activity. You do not have to go to seeking to find that either.

Seeking is worth it in the US (for me, anyway). I get it a month at a time and get a bunch of contacts, then cancel. If I get a SB out of it, then it was well worth it. If not, I at least got a bunch of contacts, many of whom will be PPM. Some of those will be higher than local escorts, but many will be lower.

I only would use Seeking in other countries if my account were already active. I would never subscribe just to get names in another country that I was just planning to visit for a short time. I've used it successfully in Tijuana, but never Colombia.

[QUOTE=Poster99;2517704]There are other sites, particularly Tinder. I find little difference in the type of women, and many women use both. I find with Tinder you can pretty much find whatever you're looking for from a flat out escort to a regular arrangement. Many women look for quick money and want to get together immediately. It's free, but I find it more effective to use boosts every are about $5. After every boost, I get a bunch of decent matches if done at the right time of day.[/QUOTE]Updated my Tinder account to GOLD because it was 50% off promo. Barely any likes or matches, even after using the boost. I know how Tinder works, and used it a lot in Russia, very successfully, hundreds of matches, and in CDMX. The problem with Tinder in Colombia is that girls do not update their accounts to gold or plus, and can't see your likes, and therefore can't like you back or message you. If you message them, they can't read. I see a lot of pros there, but still not even one decent match. SA is free for them to message, Tinder is not. And it has nothing to do with my profile, because I have been using the same pics and bio for awhile.

The only way to collect contacts is if they list their Instagram accounts where you can message them directly free of charge. I've never gone this route though, because I don't want to get my IG acct being exposed. Need to get a fake one.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517800]Updated my Tinder account to GOLD because it was 50% off promo. Barely any likes or matches, even after using the boost. I know how Tinder works, and used it a lot in Russia, very successfully, hundreds of matches, and in CDMX. The problem with Tinder in Colombia is that girls do not update their accounts to gold or plus, and can't see your likes, and therefore can't like you back or message you. If you message them, they can't read. I see a lot of pros there, but still not even one decent match. SA is free for them to message, Tinder is not. And it has nothing to do with my profile, because I have been using the same pics and bio for awhile.

The only way to collect contacts is if they list their Instagram accounts where you can message them directly free of charge. I've never gone this route though, because I don't want to get my IG acct being exposed. Need to get a fake one.[/QUOTE]Use the boosts. Buy some and use them.

Classic clip joint formula.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2517685]Its free for women, but Men have to pay.[/QUOTE]

Key point is you live here.

[QUOTE=Poster99;2517704]The site is run by a bunch of schizos. Ever since the clamp down on online prostitution, they tried to have it both ways, portraying themselves as another [URL]match.com[/URL], or a dating site. They changed their name back and forth from Seeking Arrangement to simply Seeking and now back to Seeking Arrangement. They suspend or kick people off with little or no cause. Any suspicion of soliciting sex and you're suspended. Mind you, just a suspicion. And you're out the fee unless you dispute it. It is best to take any conversation off site immediately.

Having said that, I have a love / hate relationship with the site, though I think I'm done. $100 is the monthly charge now for being able to read and send messages. A free membership is basically worthless without being able to message. It served its purpose for me. That is, having various sugar daddy arrangements. In the US, I eventually stopped using it since the women generally wanted too much and it was too much of a hassle negotiating. Colombia was a breath of fresh air up until fairly recently. I live in Medellin now and I prefer regular arrangements. Especially during the pandemic. Granted, it's still highly risky, but less risky than seeing a plethora of women..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2517809]Use the boosts. Buy some and use them.[/QUOTE]A pack of 10 is $50. No, thanks. + $15-20 monthly fee. Waste of money.

SA is $100 but results are pretty much guaranteed if you put time and effort.

In Russia SA sucks, Tinder rocks.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517854]A pack of 10 is $50. No, thanks. + $15-20 monthly fee. Waste of money.

SA is $100 but results are pretty much guaranteed if you put time and effort.

In Russia SA sucks, Tinder rocks.[/QUOTE]SA definitely has more gems. The digging has become harder as I'm pregaming for my 2 month trip.

I have both and find it hilarious that the same girl who is asking for 300 k peso dates are asking for Louis Vuitton bags on Seeking.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517854]A pack of 10 is $50. No, thanks. + $15-20 monthly fee. Waste of money.

SA is $100 but results are pretty much guaranteed if you put time and effort.

In Russia SA sucks, Tinder rocks.[/QUOTE]I only tried SA once, Moscow I think it was Nov2018-Jan 2019, I sign up and message several girls, I get 3 replies.

1 from an African girl I didn't message, I said Hi, lets meet to them.

I never mentioned money, they all asked how much? I said I don't know, how much do you want?

All 3 said 2000 usd LOL I say wtf? Ill give you 2000 rubles, each one instantly blocked me.

A few hours later SA blocked access to sign in, I emailed them and they said I was offering money for sex (all this happened in 1 day).

I seriously cannot remember LOL but they may have issued a refund?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2517855]SA definitely has more gems. The digging has become harder as I'm pregaming for my 2 month trip.

I have both and find it hilarious that the same girl who is asking for 300 k peso dates are asking for Louis Vuitton bags on Seeking.[/QUOTE]And when you offer 300 k on SA, which is a lot of money, they get offended and block you LOL.

Its wild reading so much about SA here because to me it seems so pointless.

You're in one of the top mongering destinations in the world and your on your computer using a paid service which has girls that ask for 3-5 x or more their value?

I might try FB girls one day, had success on Tinder, Brothel / Strip clubs / Casas are lots of fun. But if you are in MDE. You walk around Lleras or Centro and pick up hot girls for $20-$80 anytime of the day! Sorry maybe I missing the point.

SA in America I understand. Its for rich people but SA in MDE?

I was looking for a thread that lists any restrictions, requirements, etc due to Covid for Colombia, specifically MDE. Things like needing test results, etc.

Thanks.

Totally agree, you never know what your chemistry will be with a girl and you don't want to get stuck with something you are not having a great time with.

[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2517332]I've never had it go well when I pay all you can eat prices and make an agreement with a chica before I get there. Tell her you'll see her when you get there and then work it out after fucking her for a bit.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2517854]In Russia SA sucks, Tinder rocks.[/QUOTE]In your experience, how would you compare Russian women versus Colombian women?

Do you have a preference?

Reason being, I've always thought of taking a trip to Russia or Eastern Europe (Ukraine, Poland, etc.) one day.

Cheers!

Friends, I am arriving first time to Medellin and Colombia on January 8th for 6 days. First of all thanks for your posts and details to first time mongers on this great website. Can anyone suggest me chica friendly airBNB or hotels and can anyone suggest me what areas I should rent a place and what areas I should avoid as I have heard that some areas might be unsafe. If anyone are in Medelllin during my visit, I would love to meet up for a drink. Any helpful suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2517722]Seeking is a costly endeavor more so in time even than money. And whether you should use it or not probably depends primarily on three things:

1. Your country. If you are in Medellin it's IMO a waste of time because there is SO MUCH cheap and beautiful pussy available. SA is simply not worth the time or expense there. Same for most countries where prostitution is legal. On the other hand in the US aka Pussy Prison, Seeking is amazing. It's only place your going to find good looking girls willing to fuck you if you follow the rules (which are very much the OPPOSITE of picking up a hooker.) at a reasonable price (for USA).

2. Your time. It takes a TON of time to sort the wheat from the chaff. Like 10-20 hours a week. I personally enjoy it so that's not a downside for me. But if you don't have the time to browse chat, eject, repeat then SA won't work for you.

3. Your Style. Some guys are just down to grab a girl fuck and leave an hour later. Other guys like to go to dinner and dance and drink and smoke hookah and then fuck. And if you are lucky she might just sleep over. Your not getting any of that with a hooker (at least in most countries) unless you are paying ridiculous hourly rates..[/QUOTE]Ditto all these statements, so true.

There are seemingly endless opportunities for pussy here in Medellin but you need to put in the time and effort as Steve points out, BUT when you do the results are off the charts.

For those of us that live here it is simply incredible. Last night had a friend of a friend whom I had been talking with on FB, a mid-20's non-pro who was bored at home in bello, well for a 30 mil taxi ride and during the lock down / curfew here in Medellin yesterday she came over and we spent 5 hours listening to music and some drinks and then 2 hours of sex.

And today the curfew ended at 6 AM and I have about a dozen, some repeats and some new, girls that need some lov-in hehehe. The hardest part is choosing which one to try today AND tomorrow will be all anew THEN the next day it will be all anew, funking incredible but takes time and effort.

I did play around with SA about 3 or 4 years ago in Medellin and had a few real university girls whom I met, all non-pro but now it is completely different as the for the most part, lets say 90% or more, are hardened pros and sharks with their only interest in how much money they can extract from the gringo, no thanks.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2518014]Friends, I am arriving first time to Medellin and Colombia on January 8th for 6 days. First of all thanks for your posts and details to first time mongers on this great website. Can anyone suggest me chica friendly airBNB or hotels and can anyone suggest me what areas I should rent a place and what areas I should avoid as I have heard that some areas might be unsafe. If anyone are in Medelllin during my visit, I would love to meet up for a drink. Any helpful suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Little grasshopper HappyShiva, the best advice is to take hours and start back about 50 or 70 pages, or more, on these forums and read the posts. It has all been discussed before and recently too.

The Readers Digest version is to do what every other newbie does, myself included but 11 years ago on my first visit to Medellin, and that is to stay in or around Poblado or even at the Mansion and learn the lay of the land and how things operate here.

Your stay of 6 days is nothing, it is like taking a piss in the ocean, so you need to hit the ground running.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2517905]I was looking for a thread that lists any restrictions, requirements, etc due to Covid for Colombia, specifically MDE. Things like needing test results, etc.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]What your asking for is like a moving target, as an example a curfew 'toca de queda" originally for this weekend was to end on Saturday morning but was extended an extra day to Sunday morning a few days beforehand, just like visitors from England were denied entry on a moments notice.

The best you can do is check the Immigration Website and follow the local news for Medellin. A good source of information regarding restrictions, etc. Due to COVID is typically contained in the publication "Vivir en Poblado" and it has information for the entire area, just not Medellin, and is easily translated to English on your computer.

Hopefully this helps, but again it's been a moving target and I don't think there is a specific thread for Medellin on this, but many of the posters do post information when they hear about restrictions, albeit at times the information is not correct and needs to be verified.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2518014]Friends, I am arriving first time to Medellin and Colombia on January 8th for 6 days. First of all thanks for your posts and details to first time mongers on this great website. Can anyone suggest me chica friendly airBNB or hotels and can anyone suggest me what areas I should rent a place and what areas I should avoid as I have heard that some areas might be unsafe. If anyone are in Medelllin during my visit, I would love to meet up for a drink. Any helpful suggestions are appreciated. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Stay at the Mansion and hire a bi-lingual driver for your entire stay. If I was a first time newbie coming to Medellin for only six days, that's how I would go about it. Good luck!

[QUOTE=Queens35;2517905]I was looking for a thread that lists any restrictions, requirements, etc due to Covid for Colombia, specifically MDE. Things like needing test results, etc.

Thanks.[/QUOTE][URL]https://medellinguru.com/holiday-covid-restrictions/[/URL]

I posted the above link previously. Following is the section that pertains to Medellin. Holiday curfew restrictions are over, thank God. I don't believe there's an end date published for pico why cedula, but the restrictions basically only apply to large stores, I. E. , supermarkets, malls and banks. The article lists restrictions for all the major cities in CO. No test is required to enter CO.

"Also, Medellíand resumed Pico why Cedula starting on December 22, which restricts shopping days based on the last digit of your ID. The Pico why Cedula restriction applies for going to grocery shops, malls, small tiendas, pharmacies and also includes banking and notary services."

"Starting on December 22, if your ID ends with an even number (0, 2, 4, 6, 8) you can go out shopping on even days of the week. And if your ID ends with an odd number (1, 3, 5, 7, 9) you can go out shopping on odd days of the week. The new Pico why Cedula in Medellin is until January 4 but could be extended."

[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2518013]In your experience, how would you compare Russian women versus Colombian women?

Do you have a preference?

Reason being, I've always thought of taking a trip to Russia or Eastern Europe (Ukraine, Poland, etc.) one day.

Cheers![/QUOTE]Moocow hands down, way better, not even close. Skip Ukraine way over rated. , Colombia is better. Some guys love Colombia, I did not like MDE, but I am sure I would like Bogota much better. I real do not think I would like Cart, I think there are better options. I do not have knowledge about Poland.

There are great opportunities in Mexico now depending on your time and budget. You can read my reports. Good luck.

If anyone can give me a little advice I would appreciate it. Currently just got back from Tijuana in November. Suppose to go back the end of this month but thinking about going to Medellin for the first time solo instead. From what people have told me is and what I have read on this forum is to stay in the ST, Peters building or the Mansion. I have read a lot of negative things about the Mansion and there isn't much new feedback about the Mansion on here so should I avoid the Mansion? Did it go down hill? Also I read that the girls at Gusto are asking 100 USD-300 USD but my friend that just went there said that is more likely for ugly guys. There is a lot of mixed feedback on here so can someone give me accurate info because I mat cancel my trip to Tijuana for here? I have been to over 12 countries and want to see if Medellin is better then Tijuana.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2518032]Little grasshopper HappyShiva, the best advice is to take hours and start back about 50 or 70 pages, or more, on these forums and read the posts. It has all been discussed before and recently too.

The Readers Digest version is to do what every other newbie does, myself included but 11 years ago on my first visit to Medellin, and that is to stay in or around Poblado or even at the Mansion and learn the lay of the land and how things operate here.

Your stay of 6 days is nothing, it is like taking a piss in the ocean, so you need to hit the ground running.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Tall Man I see you replying on here a lot can you help?

If anyone can give me a little advice I would appreciate it. Currently just got back from Tijuana in November. Suppose to go back the end of this month but thinking about going to Medellin for the first time solo instead. From what people have told me is and what I have read on this forum is to stay in the ST, Peters building or the Mansion. I have read a lot of negative things about the Mansion and there isn't much new feedback about the Mansion on here so should I avoid the Mansion? How is went down hill? Also I read that the girls at Gusto are asking 100 USD-300 USD but my friend that just went there said that is more likely for ugly guys. There is a lot of mixed feedback on here so can someone give me accurate info because I mat cancel my trip to Tijuana for here? I have been to over 12 countries and want to see if Medellin is better then Tijuana.

If TIME and MONEY are not a major concern to you, try SA.
(Time in the sense of wasting a night, and also, time in the sense of doing the leg-work online)

If finding a SB does not going against every rule of your being, try SA.

If you enjoy seeing where things go, and you are ok if you end up paying or failing, try SA.

I just reactivated after about 6 months of inactivity. I had 500+ messages. Many are from other areas, but a good amount are Medellin. In the last 3 days, I have racked up a lot of options, and added several WhatsApp contacts. If a girl quotes you a ridiculous amount or shows some red flags, move along. I like the security of being able to screenshot photos, having info to filter (mom, body type, age, looking for, etc.), and being able to hide my identity unless I want to give them access. As mentioned before, I have had several freebies from SA. Not guaranteed, but you can get lucky and find a girl that wants to get out of her house and enjoy a normal night (for us, not her) with good company; maybe a girl that wants to practice her English or learn about where you are from or what you do. If you are making a 5-7 day trip, I wouldn't sign up and spend the time. Just go to the casas, centro, & Lleras. Like us on this site, these girls are looking for all different sorts of things. So, you can't throw a blanket over it. I like how you can see who has liked you, and how you can let your account marinate for a couple days and come back to plenty of action lined up. I had a great run with SA, then didn't even miss it. As I am about to return, I am looking for some new contacts. The cost of a monthly membership is the same as the cost of a couple hours with a FB girl (give or take), a quickie at La Isla, or a discounted rate at Gusto. Thus, if you get one freebie, it's the same cost. Of course, you might not get a freebie, but my favorite thing about SA is this: You can search by NEWEST profiles. I love trying to beat the herd to the punch on a fresh SA girl!

Cheers & Britney.


*Edit: If you ask a question or two, and she replies, "Hola bb" or "Hi guapo" or some other bullshit, move along. She's responding to 50 guys in 5 minutes and then going to her boyfriend's house. I never really noticed, before, but the girls have Wish Lists on the left side of their profile. If a chick has 67 items, MOVE ALONG!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2517665]Pay $100 for the chance to talk to 100 women or talk to the other 10,000 for free?[/QUOTE]The only reason guys pay that site is to make themselves believe that they are not screwing hookers. Everybody knows these are good, church-going, family-oriented girls. They bang the guys because of their charm and good looks. (And 300 k pesos.).

[QUOTE=GringoTrooper;2518013]In your experience, how would you compare Russian women versus Colombian women?

Do you have a preference?

Reason being, I've always thought of taking a trip to Russia or Eastern Europe (Ukraine, Poland, etc.) one day.

Cheers![/QUOTE]My advice would be to go! Skip Moscow, overpriced and overrated, instead go to Saint Petersburg, plenty of beautiful girls to choose from and great architecture! Shitty weather though, so make sure you go in the summer or very early Fall.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2518143]Of course, you might not get a freebie, but my favorite thing about SA is this: You can search by NEWEST profiles. I love trying to beat the herd to the punch on a fresh SA girl![/QUOTE]Newest doesn't mean fresh on SA though. SA is free for them, they can create new accounts every day if they need to. Some "new" members have professional photos and an extensive bio description along with 67 things wishlist LOL. If you see words like "pampered", "spoiled", "don't waste my time", "generous", "gifts" in their bio. Move on. See professional photos? She probably would want $300, move on.).

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2518189]My advice would be to go! Skip Moscow, overpriced and overrated, instead go to Saint Petersburg, plenty of beautiful girls to choose from and great architecture! Shitty weather though, so make sure you go in the summer or very early Fall.[/QUOTE]But pretty cold LOL and I've lived my whole life in Chicago, I was in STP in May / June 2019 it was cold and extremely difficult to navigate.

I'm guessing less than 1% of people in Moscow and / or STP speak English?

I'm not into clichéd tourist crap, but these are probably 2 of the most beautiful cities on the planet.

So clean you can lick the sidewalks etc.

No graffiti or litter or crime (at least none that I encountered).

Miamiboy I believe you are native Russian speaker?

I know 2 Russians words nyet and the.

I was traveling through Colombia back in the wild days in 1997. Retrospectively I could not remember why my stay in MD was only 2 days, and off I was headint to Cartagena. Now, consolidating all the intel since several weeks and planning my return, old memories are popping up back to the surface. Back in the days, no internet, hardly reliable info except maybe 'lonely traveller'. I naively thought, that, downtown, in any City, is usually the place to stay. He he, wrong I was.

In Centro MDE, It was the only time in my South America trip where really picked up very rough vibes by just wandering around in day time. It surprised me cause that was new for me and I could not handle it.

Am looking so so much forward to give it another try after being absent from the continent for a long time. The last 16 years I had +40 visits to Kenya and fell in love with the dark continent on multiple layers. It is on my top list for my retirement plans.

Now it is time for an eye-opener and to revive my love for the Latin thing. My biggest wish, and the reason for my post would be to get in touch with any seasoned MDE-veteran. I travelled extensively and I speak Spanish and English besides other languages. Down-to-earth, relaxed and open minded, I mingle.

Perfectly everywhere I go (except in centro in 1997) he he.

Any chance that one of you guys living down there would be open (outside of this forum) to take me under his seasoned wings, for solid intel and, foremost, once I touch down in MDE for a tour? I am more into the real vibes, anything outside of the Poblado / Gusto / Llleras illusion. Therefore, I need some comfort for stepping out into the wild wild west.

Thanks and much appreciated for your feedback.

[QUOTE=JapanMan;2518114]If anyone can give me a little advice I would appreciate it. Currently just got back from Tijuana in November. Suppose to go back the end of this month but thinking about going to Medellin for the first time solo instead. From what people have told me is and what I have read on this forum is to stay in the ST, Peters building or the Mansion. I have read a lot of negative things about the Mansion and there isn't much new feedback about the Mansion on here so should I avoid the Mansion? Did it go down hill? Also I read that the girls at Gusto are asking 100 USD-300 USD but my friend that just went there said that is more likely for ugly guys. There is a lot of mixed feedback on here so can someone give me accurate info because I mat cancel my trip to Tijuana for here? I have been to over 12 countries and want to see if Medellin is better then Tijuana.[/QUOTE]Dude, I haven't even been to Medellin yet but Gusto's has been discussed to death on here and all very recently as well as a ton of videos on YouTube. The only way your going to get any more accurate info on Gusto's is if someone goes there and streams a live report for you. Seriously though there are so many different factors at play for each individual that you are guaranteed to get different opinions on the venue but the common denominator is that at some point you will get high ball offers.

If you are traveling to Medellin and you are worried about girls, and finding the best girls, then stop worrying. Everyone has their own opinion of what is a perfect 10. Stop worrying yourself about finding a perfect 10, find a perfect 10 according to your idea of what is a perfect 10 in your perspective. One guys 10 may be another guy's 6. If you are worried about being in trouble about calling up girls to your place in Medellin, then don't, its very legal as long as the girl is 18 years old and she has her cedula, which is a Colombian ID.

Too many guys read the board and become fascinated with all of the stories that they read and they think that they will come to Medellin and have a similar experience. Every mongers experience and trip will be different. Some mongers feel that they have to spend more to have a better experience and other mongers feel that spending less is the only way to go. Personally, if you can not find what you want in Centro, then spending more for a dressed up chic may be the only way to go.

I have spent many days with other mongers who spend waaaay more money than I do on some of the same girls that I have banged for a fraction of what they spent, but the entire concept is to enjoy yourself and not count your pennies. If you come to Medellin to use SA, good luck, you can have many girlfriends in centro for the time and money you will use on SA or any other dating website, but to each his own. Too many mongers are fixated about a certain approach and in Medellin there in no one approach that fits all.

Just like anything else in life, you get out of Medellin what you put into it, if you spend enough time learning the culture, the places that the girls will be and the amount of money you want to spend while you are here in Medellin then you will surely enjoy this city. There are more than enough girls to fit every monger's need. Good luck and hope to see some of you real soon, as I will be returning to Medellin this month! PolloNegro is out!

Looks like I'm headed back to Medellin I'll be there on the 8th staying until the 12th. If you been following this thread you may have seen my post about having no Desire to come back here and me saying it was my worst mongering trip ever do to expectations etc well I'm not a quitter and everywhere else has some type of extra requirement where I just can't just get on a plane and go so here I am. With that said I think this trip will be better why I know what to expect and were to go I'll be better prepared. For this trip I'll check out New life casa didn't go my first trip so it will be a day time option, Loutron will be my go to daytime spot but I'll give new life a look. For daytime I don't need to session my style is to hang around the bars drinking with chicks around I don't need to have a session just like hot chicks around. At night I now know fase dos is no good so I don't have to waste time going there and can focus on other places. Most likely I'll be at Gusto as freelancer bars are my favorite I generally just hang out but I'll look to pull a chick out of here this time also will be going to la Isla as it wasn't that bad. If anybody is going to be in town leave a message here and we can meet up.

[QUOTE=JapanMan;2518115]Tall Man I see you replying on here a lot can you help?

If anyone can give me a little advice I would appreciate it. Currently just got back from Tijuana in November. Suppose to go back the end of this month but thinking about going to Medellin for the first time solo instead. From what people have told me is and what I have read on this forum is to stay in the ST, Peters building or the Mansion. I have read a lot of negative things about the Mansion and there isn't much new feedback about the Mansion on here so should I avoid the Mansion? How is went down hill? Also I read that the girls at Gusto are asking 100 USD-300 USD but my friend that just went there said that is more likely for ugly guys. There is a lot of mixed feedback on here so can someone give me accurate info because I mat cancel my trip to Tijuana for here? I have been to over 12 countries and want to see if Medellin is better then Tijuana.[/QUOTE]The asking price in Gustos will not be based on how you look. Lmao. Hahahaha.

While I know girls have rejected clients, if they're willing to fuck you they will charge you high.

And if you're Japanese as your handle states. They will definitely start high with you.

Now if you're wearing basketball shorts and sandals that's another story.

El Espectador just released an article stating PCR Test required for entry. I'm on hold with Spirit. There some strange language at the end of the article:

" * After this article was published, El Espectador learned that, although the resolution was signed by the Minister of Health, Fernando Ruiz, as it has not yet been officially published, there is the possibility that it will not be implemented due to the inconveniences that it may cause. ".

[URL]https://www.elespectador.com/noticias/salud/viajeros-que-lleguen-colombia-deberan-presentar-prueba-pcr/[/URL]

I'm hoping that there has been a decision but it is not being strictly enforced, yet. Bogota also announced the extension of quarantine until Jan 18. Hoping Medellin doesn't follow suit (not sure of the ICU numbers).

I really don't feel like paying $350 and rushing a PCR test on the day of my flight, tomorrow.

I am going to search the forum, because a BM posted screenshots and info about PCR tests.

Please share if you have more info.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2518252]El Espectador just released an article stating PCR Test required for entry. I'm on hold with Spirit. There some strange language at the end of the article:

" * After this article was published, El Espectador learned that, although the resolution was signed by the Minister of Health, Fernando Ruiz, as it has not yet been officially published, there is the possibility that it will not be implemented due to the inconveniences that it may cause. ".

[URL]https://www.elespectador.com/noticias/salud/viajeros-que-lleguen-colombia-deberan-presentar-prueba-pcr/[/URL]

I'm hoping that there has been a decision but it is not being strictly enforced, yet. Bogota also announced the extension of quarantine until Jan 18. Hoping Medellin doesn't follow suit (not sure of the ICU numbers).

I really don't feel like paying $350 and rushing a PCR test on the day of my flight, tomorrow.

I am going to search the forum, because a BM posted screenshots and info about PCR tests.

Please share if you have more info.[/QUOTE]I am a little nervous too, Plan on going the end of this month and don't want to buy a ticket from American Airlines then have to do a PCR test.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2518248]The asking price in Gustos will not be based on how you look. Lmao. Hahahaha.

While I know girls have rejected clients, if they're willing to fuck you they will charge you high.

And if you're Japanese as your handle states. They will definitely start high with you.

Now if you're wearing basketball shorts and sandals that's another story.[/QUOTE]I am not Asian but I think an old guy would be charged more rather then a ok looking guy. What are the going Rates at gustos, and then the SG'S at LLeras park?

Yea, that's probably confirmed, fuck.

[URL]https://twitter.com/UltimaHoraCR/status/1345877674850476033[/URL]

Sorry to hear your flight is so soon slapshot.

Luckily I'm not going for a few weeks so I suppose I must get one done though I've already had it.

Oh well, Ill just be thinking of zandalay and casa Cuba while I'm getting a swab up my nose.

JW out! (haha pollonegro tribute).

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2518252]El Espectador just released an article stating PCR Test required for entry. I'm on hold with Spirit. There some strange language at the end of the article:

" * After this article was published, El Espectador learned that, although the resolution was signed by the Minister of Health, Fernando Ruiz, as it has not yet been officially published, there is the possibility that it will not be implemented due to the inconveniences that it may cause. ".

[URL]https://www.elespectador.com/noticias/salud/viajeros-que-lleguen-colombia-deberan-presentar-prueba-pcr/[/URL]

I'm hoping that there has been a decision but it is not being strictly enforced, yet. Bogota also announced the extension of quarantine until Jan 18. Hoping Medellin doesn't follow suit (not sure of the ICU numbers).

I really don't feel like paying $350 and rushing a PCR test on the day of my flight, tomorrow.

I am going to search the forum, because a BM posted screenshots and info about PCR tests.

Please share if you have more info.[/QUOTE]

I went to MDE a few years ago, had the time of my life, rented an bnb near Llerras and pull hot girls all day.

Went to look for bnb's for next month near Lleras and now all of them say something like "Prostitution not tolerated" under house rules section.

So does anyone stay at any bnb's and can pull girls there anymore? I need one place to work and Fkkk. Is this possible somewhere near Lleras that's not super expensive?

[QUOTE=JapanMan;2518114]If anyone can give me a little advice I would appreciate it. Currently just got back from Tijuana in November. Suppose to go back the end of this month but thinking about going to Medellin for the first time solo instead. From what people have told me is and what I have read on this forum is to stay in the ST, Peters building or the Mansion. I have read a lot of negative things about the Mansion and there isn't much new feedback about the Mansion on here so should I avoid the Mansion? Did it go down hill? Also I read that the girls at Gusto are asking 100 USD-300 USD but my friend that just went there said that is more likely for ugly guys. There is a lot of mixed feedback on here so can someone give me accurate info because I mat cancel my trip to Tijuana for here? I have been to over 12 countries and want to see if Medellin is better then Tijuana.[/QUOTE]The Mansion would be good for you. The typical criticism is that the rooms are overpriced compared to other places. While that's true, there are other factors that make up for it. Obviously one is that you have chicas hanging around the place a lot of the time. The other IMO bigger benefit is that you have bit of a social structure around you. You have fellow guests in the house to hang around with and many have been to Medellin dozens of times and will be good sources of information. The quality of the chicas hanging around can be hit or miss, but there's nothing stopping you from looking for girls in other venues. And there are always guys staying there that will venture out to strip clubs, casas, etc. And will typically ask others to join.

The girls in Gusto can ask all they want. They throw out a high number in the hope that you're a new guy who doesn't know how cheap pussy is in Medellin. You can offer significantly less and they may or may not accept. I've been in Gusto's twice in my life. The first time, I got the phone of a girl I liked and I messaged her the next day to visit in the afternoon for 150 k pesos (this was about 4 years ago). But some guys like the whole idea of "picking up" a chick in a club and are willing to pay a premium to fuck them that night.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2518258]Yea, that's probably confirmed, fuck.

[URL]https://twitter.com/UltimaHoraCR/status/1345877674850476033[/URL]

Sorry to hear your flight is so soon slapshot.

Luckily I'm not going for a few weeks so I suppose I must get one done though I've already had it.

Oh well, Ill just be thinking of zandalay and casa Cuba while I'm getting a swab up my nose.

JW out! (haha pollonegro tribute).[/QUOTE]UPDATE.

There is nothing on the Migracion Colombia website. The article stated they found out they might have misinformed the public.

SPIRIT AIRLINES SAID THERE IS CURRENTLY NO NEGATIVE TEST RESULT REQUIRED, and that if the policy / law were to change, they would be notified with ample time to communicate with future passengers, adjust flight schedules, etc.

So, I'm winging it. Worst case scenario, I am stuck in FLL for a day or two, figuring out the test and a flight change. I really can't imagine that on Sunday evening news comes out that is immediately into effect. That has not been standard operating procedure, throughout all this bullshit.

I will try to remember to post an update from FLL on Tuesday morning, and another, HOPEFULLY, upon getting through customs in MDE.

I don't mean to scare people with possible click bait, but if you're in a position like me, this shit is important to track. If anyone can find the post with the PCR test results attachment, or has one of their own, feel free to share. I might try to doctor something up just to have on-hand. I'm not spending $350 and an entire day to get one if I'm not 100% sure it's necessary.

As of today President Duque says no test is required. Stay tuned, slapshotinthedark.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2518278]UPDATE.

There is nothing on the Migracion Colombia website. The article stated they found out they might have misinformed the public.

SPIRIT AIRLINES SAID THERE IS CURRENTLY NO NEGATIVE TEST RESULT REQUIRED, and that if the policy / law were to change, they would be notified with ample time to communicate with future passengers, adjust flight schedules, etc.

So, I'm winging it. Worst case scenario, I am stuck in FLL for a day or two, figuring out the test and a flight change. I really can't imagine that on Sunday evening news comes out that is immediately into effect. That has not been standard operating procedure, throughout all this bullshit.

I will try to remember to post an update from FLL on Tuesday morning, and another, HOPEFULLY, upon getting through customs in MDE.

I don't mean to scare people with possible click bait, but if you're in a position like me, this shit is important to track. If anyone can find the post with the PCR test results attachment, or has one of their own, feel free to share. I might try to doctor something up just to have on-hand. I'm not spending $350 and an entire day to get one if I'm not 100% sure it's necessary.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2518278]UPDATE.

There is nothing on the Migracion Colombia website. The article stated they found out they might have misinformed the public.

SPIRIT AIRLINES SAID THERE IS CURRENTLY NO NEGATIVE TEST RESULT REQUIRED, and that if the policy / law were to change, they would be notified with ample time to communicate with future passengers, adjust flight schedules, etc.

So, I'm winging it. Worst case scenario, I am stuck in FLL for a day or two, figuring out the test and a flight change. I really can't imagine that on Sunday evening news comes out that is immediately into effect. That has not been standard operating procedure, throughout all this bullshit.

I will try to remember to post an update from FLL on Tuesday morning, and another, HOPEFULLY, upon getting through customs in MDE..[/QUOTE]Keep me updated. Was about to book but then someone posted about the test. I want to know if it is required or not.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2518267]I went to MDE a few years ago, had the time of my life, rented an bnb near Llerras and pull hot girls all day.

Went to look for bnb's for next month near Lleras and now all of them say something like "Prostitution not tolerated" under house rules section.

So does anyone stay at any bnb's and can pull girls there anymore? I need one place to work and Fkkk. Is this possible somewhere near Lleras that's not super expensive?[/QUOTE]I had no luck fining one in Poblado in November and again no luck for my trip this week. I'm staying in San Peter apartments in Laureles again. It girl friendly and the location is great. Its a short taxi to llerras.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2518285]I had no luck fining one in Poblado in November and again no luck for my trip this week. I'm staying in San Peter apartments in Laureles again. It girl friendly and the location is great. Its a short taxi to llerras.[/QUOTE]How are the girls there now? Prices in LLears park etc?

Ah Miamiboy you miss the point. It's all about fantasy. The girls on those sites qill tell you whatever you want to hear: I'm new, it's my first time, you are the best, I am a college student.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2518197]Newest doesn't mean fresh on SA though. SA is free for them, they can create new accounts every day if they need to. Some "new" members have professional photos and an extensive bio description along with 67 things wishlist LOL. If you see words like "pampered", "spoiled", "don't waste my time", "generous", "gifts" in their bio. Move on. See professional photos? She probably would want $300, move on.).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2518285]I had no luck fining one in Poblado in November and again no luck for my trip this week. I'm staying in San Peter apartments in Laureles again. It girl friendly and the location is great. Its a short taxi to llerras.[/QUOTE]It can be in the pricey side but Energy Living is chica friendly as long as they have their cedula.

[QUOTE=Poster99;2518077][URL]https://medellinguru.com/holiday-covid-restrictions/[/URL]

I posted the above link previously. Following is the section that pertains to Medellin. The article lists restrictions for all the major cities in CO. No test is required to enter CO.[/QUOTE]LOL. See what Surf means? Yes a PCR test that was taken within 96 hours of boarding the flight is required to enter Colombia. It was signed on December 31, but there was no starting date that I could find mentioned in the 10-page resolution.

El Ministerio de Salud inform que de acuerdo con la resolucin 2532 expedida el pasado 31 de diciembre de 2020, los viajeros que lleguen a Colombia desde el exterior debern presentar una prueba PCR negativa para poder ingresar al pas... Igualmente, en el documento la entidad enfatiza que la prueba debe ser tomada 96 horas con anterioridad de abordar el vuelo.

[url]https://cablenoticias.tv/nacionales/viajeros-deberan-presentar-prueba-pcr-para-entrar-a-colombia/[/url]

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2518285]I had no luck fining one in Poblado in November and again no luck for my trip this week. I'm staying in San Peter apartments in Laureles again. It girl friendly and the location is great. Its a short taxi to llerras.[/QUOTE]Thanks Ill look into it, does it have good wifi?

I wonder if I should get an BNB or hotel in El Centro and pull girls to my room from there, something walking distance. Lleras seems like it is a more fun areas with hotter girls.

I am going to keep hunting for an BNB in Lleras, maybe ones that aren't explicitly anti mongering and that have self check in will work.

Is there a decent place in El Centro where one could pull girls and work 40 hrs a week? I need really good Wi-Fi.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2518285]I had no luck fining one in Poblado in November and again no luck for my trip this week. I'm staying in San Peter apartments in Laureles again. It girl friendly and the location is great. Its a short taxi to llerras.[/QUOTE]It's the most obvious chica friendly place and there are units under 100 a night.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2518301]It's the most obvious chica friendly place and there are units under 100 a night.[/QUOTE]You can get really nice BNBs for under $60 a night that offer quiet and privacy. If that what you're looking for.

[QUOTE=JapanMan;2518255]I am not Asian but I think an old guy would be charged more rather then a ok looking guy. What are the going Rates at gustos, and then the SG'S at LLeras park?[/QUOTE]A lot of these girls at Gustos are seasoned and smart. Depending on the age and intelligence of the girl.

Some girls will go after the older guy cause they know they have a better chance of a longer term arrangement rather than a young guy who certainly just wants to have her for one night while his judgment is completely impaired by all the drinking etc.

One of the most desired girls at Gustos a couple years ago her strategy is strictly old guys. More $$ in the long run and trips and vacations etc.

Then she brings back all her proceeds to her novio at home.

[QUOTE=JapanMan;2518255]I am not Asian but I think an old guy would be charged more rather then a ok looking guy. What are the going Rates at gustos, and then the SG'S at LLeras park?[/QUOTE]Typically most newcomers to this board read the forum going back away to get a sense of pricing at the different venues which apparently you haven't done as of yet, as I believe another poster told you to RTFF and you know what that stands for.

As far as your analogy that an old guy might be charged more than an OK looking guy, well that's not how it works, the women are working to make as much money as they can, with age and looks hardly ever being the deciding factor for them.

You said in one of your posts you were contemplating coming to Medellin versus Tijuana. The differences are like night and day between the two venues, and hands down Medellin has Tijuana beat, and I live two hours from there, but it's such a shithole I hardly visit anymore, albeit the food is great.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2518304]A lot of these girls at Gustos are seasoned and smart.[/QUOTE]Smart? Semi illiterate 3rd world putas? Jajajaja.

You so funny!

Like the TV show, are you smarter than a 5th grader? We should start a thread.

Thanks much Mr. E for posting the link with the new entry requirements. Looks like either bring a negative PCR test or a do a 14 day quarantine or get tested after arrival to escape the quarantine.

"In addition, travelers who state that they could not take the test or the result of the same did not leave on time, must perform a mandatory preventive isolation of 14 days, once they enter Colombia, and must perform a PCR test that confirm that you do not have the virus. The costs of the sample and of the isolation will be in charge of each traveler. ".

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2518352]Thanks much Mr. E for posting the link with the new entry requirements. Looks like either bring a negative PCR test or a do a 14 day quarantine or get tested after arrival to escape the quarantine.

"In addition, travelers who state that they could not take the test or the result of the same did not leave on time, must perform a mandatory preventive isolation of 14 days, once they enter Colombia, and must perform a PCR test that confirm that you do not have the virus. The costs of the sample and of the isolation will be in charge of each traveler. ".[/QUOTE]Is this 100% officially confirmed and in force right now? Please be careful posting this type of info and scare mongering as MR E states there is no starting date?

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2518278]UPDATE.
There is nothing on the Migracion Colombia website. The article stated they found out they might have misinformed the public.

SPIRIT AIRLINES SAID THERE IS CURRENTLY NO NEGATIVE TEST RESULT REQUIRED, and that if the policy / law were to change, they would be notified with ample time to communicate with future passengers, adjust flight schedules, etc.

So, I'm winging it. Worst case scenario, I am stuck in FLL for a day or two, figuring out the test and a flight change. I really can't imagine that on Sunday evening news comes out that is immediately into effect. That has not been standard operating procedure, throughout all this bullshit.

I will try to remember to post an update from FLL on Tuesday morning, and another, HOPEFULLY, upon getting through customs in MDE.

I don't mean to scare people with possible click bait, but if you're in a position like me, this shit is important to track. If anyone can find the post with the PCR test results attachment, or has one of their own, feel free to share. I might try to doctor something up just to have on-hand. I'm not spending $350 and an entire day to get one if I'm not 100% sure it's necessary.[/QUOTE]I'm travelling on Thursday morning and transiting through the Netherlands and then direct to Colombia. The Netherlands is requiring a negative PCR test even for a 1 hour transit so I booked my test for Tuesday with a 24 hour turn around with a bit of time to spare in case of any complications and I timed my test in a way that if Colombia does change the requirements my test would still be within any potential time frame.

So guys by the time I take my test to the time I board my first connecting flight it will be 42 hours since my test, I take it I would be well covered if this new law gets enforced?

This is such a stressful time to travel as the rules change on a whim.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2518414]Is this 100% officially confirmed and in force right now? Please be careful posting this type of info and scare mongering as MR E states there is no starting date?

I'm travelling on Thursday morning and transiting through the Netherlands and then direct to Colombia. The Netherlands is requiring a negative PCR test even for a 1 hour transit so I booked my test for Tuesday with a 24 hour turn around with a bit of time to spare in case of any complications and I timed my test in a way that if Colombia does change the requirements my test would still be within any potential time frame.

So guys by the time I take my test to the time I board my first connecting flight it will be 42 hours since my test, I take it I would be well covered if this new law gets enforced?

This is such a stressful time to travel as the rules change on a whim.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure, but spirit airlines has updated the requirements on their travel requirements portion of the website. I have a flight scheduled for Wednesday morning so now I'm not sure what to do.

It's only a 3 day trip and it says a 2 week quarantine is required, I'm assuming they don't hold you past your departure date correct? I don't mind being quarantined to my apartment for 3 days as all I was doing was coming to fuck and eat anyway. Assuming you're still allowed to stay in your apartment LOL.

I have no idea really, was afraid something like this would happen on a whim.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2518295]LOL. See what Surf means? Yes a PCR test that was taken within 96 hours of boarding the flight is required to enter Colombia. It was signed on December 31, but there was no starting date that I could find mentioned in the 10-page resolution.

El Ministerio de Salud inform que de acuerdo con la resolucin 2532 expedida el pasado 31 de diciembre de 2020, los viajeros que lleguen a Colombia desde el exterior debern presentar una prueba PCR negativa para poder ingresar al pas... Igualmente, en el documento la entidad enfatiza que la prueba debe ser tomada 96 horas con anterioridad de abordar el vuelo.

[url]https://cablenoticias.tv/nacionales/viajeros-deberan-presentar-prueba-pcr-para-entrar-a-colombia/[/url][/QUOTE]The only thing certain in Colombia is uncertainty. Today's news offered conflicting reports about testing. If I were a betting person, I'd bet that a test requirement will soon be necessary if not already in effect now. Note that the ICU capacity in Medellin is over 80% and worse in Bogota, I think. This is not a good time to travel. Pico why cedula is still in effect and my guess is that weekend lockdowns will continue. Plus, your health! Typically, the government doesn't announce measures until the last minute making planning futile. The New Year's lockdown was extended from 1 day to 2.5 days the day before the lockdown.

There's this.

[URL]https://www.elpais.com.co/colombia/viajeros-que-lleguen-a-deberan-presentar-prueba-pcr-negativa-minsalud.html[/URL]

And then this from El Spectator.

Después de publicado este artículo, El Espectador conoció que, aunque la resolucióand fue firmada por el ministro de Salud, Fernando Ruiz, como aún no ha sido publicada de manera oficial existe la posibilidad de que no sea implementada debido a los inconvenientes que puede ocasionar.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2518295]LOL. See what Surf means? Yes a PCR test that was taken within 96 hours of boarding the flight is required to enter Colombia. It was signed on December 31, but there was no starting date that I could find mentioned in the 10-page resolution.

El Ministerio de Salud inform que de acuerdo con la resolucin 2532 expedida el pasado 31 de diciembre de 2020, los viajeros que lleguen a Colombia desde el exterior debern presentar una prueba PCR negativa para poder ingresar al pas... Igualmente, en el documento la entidad enfatiza que la prueba debe ser tomada 96 horas con anterioridad de abordar el vuelo.

[url]https://cablenoticias.tv/nacionales/viajeros-deberan-presentar-prueba-pcr-para-entrar-a-colombia/[/url][/QUOTE]I have just checked the Ministry of Health department, Colombia website and it says that the PCR test is not required as it is impossible for so many travelers to get PCR test done and impossible for health officials to check the PCR results.

[URL]https://www.minsalud.gov.co/English/Paginas/inicio.aspx[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2518301]It's the most obvious chica friendly place and there are units under 100 a night.[/QUOTE]As others have written, the San Peters Apartments are girl friendly and well located. The only knock on them: a number of Board Members have reported finding rooms too noisy and, during my stay there, a couple of neighbors moved out for that reason. The apartments overlook a popular bar / disco on La 70. As a geezer with some hearing loss who sleeps soundly, the festivities below didn't bother me.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2518457]I have just checked the Ministry of Health department, Colombia website and it says that the PCR test is not required as it is impossible for so many travelers to get PCR test done and impossible for health officials to check the PCR results.

[URL]https://www.minsalud.gov.co/English/Paginas/inicio.aspx[/URL][/QUOTE]Dude what you are talking about was from 3 December. The current resolution is from 31 December.

As Mr. E stated, the same as in one of the links I posted, there is an asterisk and some grey area.

However, TODAY, January 4, Spirit told me something different than they did 12 hours ago. Now, they have been notified a negative test result is "required" - if you do not have one, you can enter but will be "required" to quarantine for 14 days. I would assume being in a hotel would be worse, for this, in terms of them caring more about you following the rules. Even the known gringo short-time apartments might be more inclined to follow the rules, in this case. Nonetheless, you can get a PCR in Colombia, and with a negative result, your quarantine restriction is negated. I'm assuming this would be far more cost-effective, and save a hell of a lot of time and stress, prior to leaving (Edit: 220.000 COP for a 48-72hr PCR test result + 13.000 domicilio fee to do it in your apt/hotel, Mo-Th. +573154677121 on WhatsApp). As a tip, I would not carry my passport anywhere. If you are stopped by police, and have done nothing wrong, say you arrived Jan 1 or Dec 20, or whatever you want. This is not coming from a lawyer, just my opinion of what I would/will do.

Now, given we are talking about Colombia and there seems to be some ambiguity, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if I was waved through at customs or told I couldn't enter the country.

Report to follow in 36 hours...



A really good-looking SA girl messaged me on WhatsApp, last night. I noticed I already had her number, and our brief conversation had fizzled-out, last time. It was after I had already departed Colombia, so you know what type of girl I'm talking about. No B$, straight cash homie. Well, her profile says Prefer Not To Say under Children. I asked right away. She said, "Yes, is that a problem?" I said, "Maybe, maybe not. " Her profile photo disappeared haha (meaning, she deleted my number). I think we reached an understanding within about 74 seconds of chatting. /catshavefun on SA.

Blakretariat, what happened to you? Have you been put out to pasture? Mix in a f'ing report, with all this PCR and SA talk!

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2518460]As others have written, the San Peters Apartments are girl friendly and well located. The only knock on them: a number of Board Members have reported finding rooms too noisy and, during my stay there, a couple of neighbors moved out for that reason. The apartments overlook a popular bar / disco on La 70. As a geezer with some hearing loss who sleeps soundly, the festivities below didn't bother me.[/QUOTE]Due to Covid late night noise is no longer a problem at San Peters Apartments. The police close down all the bars between midnight and 1 AM. So it then goes quiet. In normal times it's very noisy until between 3 and 4 AM.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2518414]Is this 100% officially confirmed and in force right now? Please be careful posting this type of info and scare mongering as MR E states there is no starting date?

[/QUOTE]I was doing the opposite of scare mongering JohnnyO. Mr. E's original post with the valuable link stated you couldn't enter without a negative test. I read the link and posted the other two options of a 14 day quarantine or getting tested in Medellin to escape the quarantine.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2518480]As Mr. E stated, the same as in one of the links I posted, there is an asterisk and some grey area.

However, TODAY, January 4, Spirit told me something different than they did 12 hours ago. Now, they have been notified a negative test result is "required" - if you do not have one, you can enter but will be "required" to quarantine for 14 days. I would assume being in a hotel would be worse, for this, in terms of them caring more about you following the rules. Even the known gringo short-time apartments might be more inclined to follow the rules, in this case. Nonetheless, you can get a PCR in Colombia, and with a negative result, your quarantine restriction is negated. I'm assuming this would be far more cost-effective, and save a hell of a lot of time and stress, prior to leaving (Edit: 220.000 COP for a 48-72hr PCR test result + 13.000 domicilio fee to do it in your apt/hotel, Mo-Th. +573154677121 on WhatsApp). As a tip, I would not carry my passport anywhere. If you are stopped by police, and have done nothing wrong, say you arrived Jan 1 or Dec 20, or whatever you want. This is not coming from a lawyer, just my opinion of what I would/will do.

Now, given we are talking about Colombia and there seems to be some ambiguity, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if I was waved through at customs or told I couldn't enter the country.

Report to follow in 36 hours...

[/QUOTE]Yes please keep us udpated Slapinfo. I'm taking a PCR test this morning at CVS pharmacy but results take 3 to 4 days so I may not have them in time.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2518480]As Mr. E stated, the same as in one of the links I posted, there is an asterisk and some grey area.

However, TODAY, January 4, Spirit told me something different than they did 12 hours ago. Now, they have been notified a negative test result is "required" - if you do not have one, you can enter but will be "required" to quarantine for 14 days. I would assume being in a hotel would be worse, for this, in terms of them caring more about you following the rules. Even the known gringo short-time apartments might be more inclined to follow the rules, in this case. Nonetheless, you can get a PCR in Colombia, and with a negative result, your quarantine restriction is negated. I'm assuming this would be far more cost-effective, and save a hell of a lot of time and stress, prior to leaving (Edit: 220.000 COP for a 48-72hr PCR test result + 13.000 domicilio fee to do it in your apt/hotel, Mo-Th. +573154677121 on WhatsApp). As a tip, I would not carry my passport anywhere. If you are stopped by police, and have done nothing wrong, say you arrived Jan 1 or Dec 20, or whatever you want. This is not coming from a lawyer, just my opinion of what I would/will do.

Now, given we are talking about Colombia and there seems to be some ambiguity, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if I was waved through at customs or told I couldn't enter the country.

Report to follow in 36 hours.[/QUOTE]I just checked with Delta as I have a flight with them this weekend and they told me not test is required and when I checked with the you. US GOV website and the Colombia immigration website nothing said about it. I'm really interested to hear a from someone going through in the next few days to see what's actually going on.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2518480]A really good-looking SA girl messaged me on WhatsApp, last night. Her profile photo disappeared haha (meaning, she deleted my number).[/QUOTE]I do not think her profile pic disappearing means she deleted your number. 1. I talk to normal girlfriends that I have had for years and often their profile pic disappears. 2. Sometimes chicks tell me they can not see my picture and I have not touched anything. 3. When you add someone you can see their profile pic without them having to even have your number.

Thanks for the tip on the PCR-test Slapshot, I'm going to need a test for re-entry into Europe it seems. My trip is coming to a close, I'll be heading home on the 6th. The curfews during Christmas and New Years was a pain in the ass to be honest. I managed to have some repeats from SA come over some of the days, so it wasnt a complete loss for me, but I definitely look forward to doing this whole thing again with vaccines in the population.

Good job on Catsjustwantfun BTW, she's a looker. As soon as the holidays were over my contact list was jumping, so the girls probably spent all their cash on gifts, food, booze and presents, and now they need to refill. I've scheduled morning and evening encounters for all of my remaining days, minus tonight. I thought I'd do a Lleras walkabout in the evening, to get that experience in as well before I leave.

It's been a great trip, and I'll definitely be coming back after beefing up my Spanish. The one thing that caught me off guard was the coffee situation. I'm in Colombia, and restaurants and coffee shops are trying to serve me Americanos? I expect that in Thailand, but I wasn't prepared for it to be impossible to get properly brewed coffee in Colombia. Fortunately all the Airbnb's seem to be stocked with a coffee machine, but it felt stupid having to suck down 3 cups of coffee before heading out to breakfast.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2518496]
I was doing the opposite of scare mongering JohnnyO. Mr. E's original post with the valuable link stated you couldn't enter without a negative test. I read the link and posted the other two options of a 14 day quarantine or getting tested in Medellin to escape the quarantine.
[/QUOTE]Well if all this officially comes into force at least the option of getting a test in Medellin to avoid quarantine is something. I just hope all the relevant information filters through to the airlines. What a time to travel, so much uncertainty.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2518539]Well if all this officially comes into force at least the option of getting a test in Medellin to avoid quarantine is something. I just hope all the relevant information filters through to the airlines. What a time to travel, so much uncertainty.[/QUOTE]Probably the smartest thing to do is too just plan on getting the PCR test before travelling versus waiting to see what happens.

As an example, when I came down in November I got the PCR test the day before my flight and the day of my flight it was lifted, hence the PCR test could officially become a requirement very quickly and you would think with at least 72 hours notice. Regardless of this, the collector / keeper of the PCR tests is Colombia Migracion so I suspect the official source of when it's going to be actually required will appear on their website versus what everybody is reading in the news. Apparently the health minister wants the PCR testing, but it has not been agreed to or maybe is now with the President and immigration.

It's high season now for tourism, we had the holidays, but now the Virus is starting to surge again, the Holidays are behind us, and with the COVID surge Colombia might be going back to more lockdown mode (s) as is happening in parts of Bogota. Hopefully Medellin won't be as affected.

So again, and I know the PCR test with expedited turnaround time can be expensive, guys thinking of coming down within the next month should just have it in hand, that's at least what I intend to do. The thought of having to chase down a PCR test in Medellin and potentially being quarantined is not worth it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2518516]I do not think her profile pic disappearing means she deleted your number. 1. I talk to normal girlfriends that I have had for years and often their profile pic disappears. 2. Sometimes chicks tell me they can not see my picture and I have not touched anything. 3. When you add someone you can see their profile pic without them having to even have your number.[/QUOTE]You might be right, but in this case, I literally watched her photo disappear after she read my response. I have talked to girls in the past and asked about their photo, and they said it was because they got a new phone and didn't have my number saved yet. So, who knows, but it was funny timing to be a coincidence.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2518556]You might be right, but in this case, I literally watched her photo disappear after she read my response. I have talked to girls in the past and asked about their photo, and they said it was because they got a new phone and didn't have my number saved yet. So, who knows, but it was funny timing to be a coincidence.[/QUOTE]She blocked you, not just deleted your number. When someone blocks you, you no longer can see that person's profile photo and your messages can no longer get delivered (you will see only 1 check mark, not 2). Also you no longer see that person's online status.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2518341]Smart? Semi illiterate 3rd world putas? Jajajaja.

You so funny!

Like the TV show, are you smarter than a 5th grader? We should start a thread.[/QUOTE]Yes. Smart. Let's clear up your first mistake. Literacy is the result of education. Intelligence is intrinsic.

The rest of your education really needs to wait until you have been to Colombia, although it's unlikely you'll learn much. While there are certainly many working girls in Medellin who are poorly educated, there are also many who are not only well educated, but quite intelligent and capable of holding their own in any conversation.

However, what Sangnyc21 was referring to is the ability of the women to successfully conduct their business. They are skilled. They have experience. They've learned what works. They know how to survive.

That last one is something most of the people who frequent this board have never had to learn. We're mostly people who are on the phone complaining about the air conditioner or the lack of hot water. We're the ones complaining about girls charging $150 for something that would cost us $300-$1000 at home. We're the ones complaining that not enough people in other countries speak our language. We complain about people being 30 minutes late. Our survival skills are challenged when Walmart runs out of toilet paper.

Take the average monger from this board (yes, I know there are exceptions) and put him in the situation most of the "semi illiterate 3rd world putas" live in and he would be calling for an Uber out of there within 30 minutes. Most would not be able to walk to the store without having a panic attack.

The girls who are selling pussy today are the children and grandchildren of women who grew up in some of the most dangerous and poorest neighborhoods of Medellin when Medellin was the most dangerous city in the world. You'll have a tough time finding one who hasn't been the victim of an armed robbery. Most have lost a close friend or family member to violence. Most grew up without luxuries like hot water. Some grew up without running water. Most of the girls see stuff every week that would have every self-proclaimed "alpha male" on ISG curled up in the fetal position with wet pants and crying for mommy.

Yet, there they are, smiling, all made up and strutting around Gusto like they just stepped out of a limo.

I'd say anyone who can come out of an $80 per month apartment, cross half a city and end up getting paid 1 month of the minimum salary for spending a few hours in a $100 per night room, is a helluva lot smarter than most people.

[QUOTE=HappyShiva;2518457]I have just checked the Ministry of Health department, Colombia website and it says that the PCR test is not required as it is impossible for so many travelers to get PCR test done and impossible for health officials to check the PCR results.

[URL]https://www.minsalud.gov.co/English/Paginas/inicio.aspx[/URL][/QUOTE]You might want to check again. My understanding is that currently a PCR test is required again. For people whose flights are too soon to get a test, or who are already enroute, they will be required to quarantine for 14 days and get a PCR test at their own expense.

I don't know if this is being enforced at the airports yet, but unless some other directive is issued, I would expect it.

Has anyone been back to La Isla recently? How is it? The last time I visited was over a year ago.

We did this a month ago when the judge originally issued his order. Then, as now, there was extensive hand wringing and unofficial link sharing, even though the President and Minister of Health said there would be no new test requirement. I won't try to convince anyone other than to point out that the airlines and the Colombia immigration and health ministry web sites are better spurces for this information.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2518502]I just checked with Delta as I have a flight with them this weekend and they told me not test is required and when I checked with the you. US GOV website and the Colombia immigration website nothing said about it. I'm really interested to hear a from someone going through in the next few days to see what's actually going on.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2518556]So, who knows, but it was funny timing to be a coincidence.[/QUOTE]Yeah, no sweat either way, but I think you're right.

I had a WhatsApp number of a Vennie, who was living in Venezuela. After a few months I deleted her number because it didn't look like she would ever leave her country, nor would I be visiting there.

Immediately after I deleted her number, she must have gotten offended because she blocked me on Instagram right after doing so LOL.

[QUOTE=Maxum;2518523] The one thing that caught me off guard was the coffee situation. I'm in Colombia, and restaurants and coffee shops are trying to serve me Americanos? I expect that in Thailand, but I wasn't prepared for it to be impossible to get properly brewed coffee in Colombia. Fortunately all the Airbnb's seem to be stocked with a coffee machine, but it felt stupid having to suck down 3 cups of coffee before heading out to breakfast.[/QUOTE]Actually the best coffee is not in the restaurants or the coffee shops, but from the vendors on the street with their thermos's and they call it Tinto. The Juan Valez's and others are just Starbucks knock-offs.

All over Colombia you will see vendors with insulated flasks, and besides Tinto which is typically already sweetened with sugar, some of the girls selling it, especially in El Centro, go to the room as well. A strategy to be employed, which has worked for me is when I see something of interest, such as a pretty coffee vendor or a girl selling candy is to buy a coffee or buy some pieces of candy from them and take it from there. My best luck has been with the candy girls, they can be so sweet.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2518341]Smart? Semi illiterate 3rd world putas? Jajajaja.

You so funny!

Like the TV show, are you smarter than a 5th grader? We should start a thread.[/QUOTE]Do you realize you're making it so obvious on the forum you're the most bitter person when it comes to women?

All your posts are about how cheap a woman's pussy is worth and how little all of us should pay.

It leads me to believe you have been rejected your whole life by women which is why you hate on them so much.

But once again your comments are of absolute no use to this community.

Nothing you say is helpful. And it's obvious you hate women as well.
Just stfu bro you sound like an idiot. And while it’s definitely not like the US or UK, Colombia is not third world you numb nuts.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2518575]Yes. Smart. Let's clear up your first mistake. Literacy is the result of education. Intelligence is intrinsic.

The rest of your education really needs to wait until you have been to Colombia, although it's unlikely you'll learn much. While there are certainly many working girls in Medellin who are poorly educated, there are also many who are not only well educated, but quite intelligent and capable of holding their own in any conversation.

However, what Sangnyc21 was referring to is the ability of the women to successfully conduct their business. They are skilled. They have experience. They've learned what works. They know how to survive.

[/QUOTE]Wow what an insightful post. I need to find and revive that old forum called "reports of distinciton".

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2518558]She blocked you, not just deleted your number. When someone blocks you, you no longer can see that person's profile photo and your messages can no longer get delivered (you will see only 1 check mark, not 2). Also you no longer see that person's online status.[/QUOTE]I don't think that's true. My favorita and I chatted today and her picture was gone. It was there the last time.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2518697]Wow what an insightful post. I need to find and revive that old forum called "reports of distinciton".[/QUOTE]Just for the record, there are others on this board who have never found much of any of Jbee2 posts as being insightful, regardless of this, I agree with you that this post merits a lot in that it touches on things that very few board members are aware of in Medellin, could relate to, or ever even imagine. Most board members see these beautiful women nicely dressed, with no clue as to how poor they really are, and the conditions these women live in.

[QUOTE=TitanicVisit;2518622]Has anyone been back to La Isla recently? How is it? The last time I visited was over a year ago.[/QUOTE]I had trouble controlling the drool watching 80 girls mostly all above 7's and a lot of 10's show me what a real strip club / casa is like in Colombia. 4 phone numbers, 2 "sessions" I can't wait to get back, 30 days in Colombia, 4 of them at La Isla.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2518745]I had trouble controlling the drool watching 80 girls mostly all above 7's and a lot of 10's show me what a real strip club / casa is like in Colombia. 4 phone numbers, 2 "sessions" I can't wait to get back, 30 days in Colombia, 4 of them at La Isla.[/QUOTE]Is it still 300 k on site? Heard fase dos is the same thing.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2518516]I do not think her profile pic disappearing means she deleted your number. 1. I talk to normal girlfriends that I have had for years and often their profile pic disappears. 2. Sometimes chicks tell me they can not see my picture and I have not touched anything. 3. When you add someone you can see their profile pic without them having to even have your number.[/QUOTE]Hey guys,

Quick question. If I want to meet a girl in Seeking Arrangement but her profile did not label that she is looking for "Friend with Benefit" type of relationship. And when you talk to her, the girl may say sex is not guaranteed or her profile said she is not looking for intimacy. In this situation, how much in COP should I expect to pay for the meeting and how long?

I usually meet girls who are interested in "Friend with Benefit" type of relationship and I paid $400 K COP for 6-8 hours meeting or overnight that comes with intimacy, but I want to try something different and just curious.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2518575]
However, what Sangnyc21 was referring to is the ability of the women to successfully conduct their business. They are skilled. They have experience. They've learned what works. They know how to survive.

That last one is something most of the people who frequent this board have never had to learn. We're mostly people who are on the phone complaining about the air conditioner or the lack of hot water. We're the ones complaining about girls charging $150 for something that would cost us $300-$1000 at home. We're the ones complaining that not enough people in other countries speak our language. We complain about people being 30 minutes late. Our survival skills are challenged when Walmart runs out of toilet paper.

Take the average monger from this board (yes, I know there are exceptions) and put him in the situation most of the "semi illiterate 3rd world putas" live in and he would be calling for an Uber out of there within 30 minutes. Most would not be able to walk to the store without having a panic attack.

The girls who are selling pussy today are the children and grandchildren of women who grew up in some of the most dangerous and poorest neighborhoods of Medellin when Medellin was the most dangerous city in the world. You'll have a tough time finding one who hasn't been the victim of an armed robbery. Most have lost a close friend or family member to violence. Most grew up without luxuries like hot water. Some grew up without running water. Most of the girls see stuff every week that would have every self-proclaimed "alpha male" on ISG curled up in the fetal position with wet pants and crying for mommy.

Yet, there they are, smiling, all made up and strutting around Gusto like they just stepped out of a limo.

I'd say anyone who can come out of an $80 per month apartment, cross half a city and end up getting paid 1 month of the minimum salary for spending a few hours in a $100 per night room, is a helluva lot smarter than most people.[/QUOTE]I think what you said about the girls can be said about the mongers as well. It is just the opposite situation. The main difference is the seller knows more about the buyer than the buyer knows about the seller. They also have a great merchandise that can basically sells itself. They just need to get the max out of it.

My observation is that the girls have the short term street smart but not necessary the long term business smart. The gusto girl in Slapshots post is one example. SJobs also posted about his similar encounter

Overall, it is not a smart move for the first time mongers to find pussy in the most expensive place in Medellin. Eventually, most realized they overpaid.

[QUOTE=DonCarlos1234;2518745]I had trouble controlling the drool watching 80 girls mostly all above 7's and a lot of 10's show me what a real strip club / casa is like in Colombia. 4 phone numbers, 2 "sessions" I can't wait to get back, 30 days in Colombia, 4 of them at La Isla.[/QUOTE]What days / hours did you go? Def. Looking forward to going back, but I wasn't even sure if they were open with this lockdown / curfew, etc.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2518635]We did this a month ago when the judge originally issued his order. Then, as now, there was extensive hand wringing and unofficial link sharing, even though the President and Minister of Health said there would be no new test requirement. I won't try to convince anyone other than to point out that the airlines and the Colombia immigration and health ministry web sites are better spurces for this information.[/QUOTE]From AA website today:

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2518575]Yes. Smart. Let's clear up your first mistake. Literacy is the result of education. Intelligence is intrinsic.

However, what Sangnyc21 was referring to is the ability of the women to successfully conduct their business. They are skilled. They have experience. They've learned what works. They know how to survive.

I'd say anyone who can come out of an $80 per month apartment, cross half a city and end up getting paid 1 month of the minimum salary for spending a few hours in a $100 per night room, is a helluva lot smarter than most people.[/QUOTE]They have a hustle for now, but they can't sell pussy forever. So what is these really intelligent chicks' next plan of action? Already having a mansion built before retiring to the gravy life sitting on the board of directors at New Life or Fase 2?

In most societies it is not the skilled and experienced people that have to go and and be hookers. And all those qualities listed is just how poor people live, even the literally retarded ones. It says nothing about their intelligence.

I have been watching a TV series called Pussy Valley the last couple of days. It is about a strip club in Mississippi. Yesterday I was watching an episode where the stripper was at least honest with herself even if nobody else was honest with her. She said all I have is a pretty face; I am not good at shit else. And that is exactly how the majority of these chicks end up letting me fuck them in doggy style for a few pesos. Because pretty faces don't usually get you any farther than somebody's bed.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2518783]My observation is that the girls have the short term street smart but not necessary the long term business smart.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Show me all this money they have saved and invested, then we can talk about how smart and skilled and experienced they are. Otherwise they are just doing what mfs where they are from do. It does not take a special skill set. Just basically show up with a pussy.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2518838]From AA website today:[/QUOTE]Yes. I have just read the U.S embassy website and it said that they will be requiring PCR test starting January 12. So it looks like its confirmed.

Attached is new curfew and dry law days and hours. Too lazy to translate it all, but this weekend is a 3 day holiday weekend (Colombia has lots of random holidays), so dry law starts Friday to Monday. Just some info for those heading here this week. I've been here 2 months and no curfew or dry law or however many covid strains going to stop this chino paisa from getting his party on haha.

Gentlemen of culture.

I am looking at tickets and there is a cheap Spirit one that has a 1 hour layover in FLL to go to MDE. Is this enough time being an international flight and all?

Hoping to go in Feb, thanks.

Ok, this is a reliable source.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2518838]From AA website today:[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2518861]They have a hustle for now, but they can't sell pussy forever. So what is these really intelligent chicks' next plan of action? Already having a mansion built before retiring to the gravy life sitting on the board of directors at New Life or Fase 2?

In most societies it is not the skilled and experienced people that have to go and and be hookers. And all those qualities listed is just how poor people live, even the literally retarded ones. It says nothing about their intelligence.

I have been watching a TV series called Pussy Valley the last couple of days. It is about a strip club in Mississippi. Yesterday I was watching an episode where the stripper was at least honest with herself even if nobody else was honest with her. She said all I have is a pretty face; I am not good at shit else. And that is exactly how the majority of these chicks end up letting me fuck them in doggy style for a few pesos. Because pretty faces don't usually get you any farther than somebody's bed.

Exactly. Show me all this money they have saved and invested, then we can talk about how smart and skilled and experienced they are. Otherwise they are just doing what mfs where they are from do. It does not take a special skill set. Just basically show up with a pussy.[/QUOTE]Again what you're talking about is the result of education, rather than intelligence. Take several generations who have all spent their whole lives scrambling to get by and you aren't likely to get people who understand planning for the future. Most of them haven't been taught how to prevent getting pregnant at 14. Where are they going to learn it? TV? TV shows that the poor, pretty girl gets picked up and taken away by a handsome prince to live happily ever after. For most working girls in 3rd world countries that's plan A and B.

However, there are many who do save and invest. They either invest in more education, to learn a trade, or they invest in a sideline source of extra income. I know quite a few girls in Medellin who have cars, cars bought from savings earned selling pussy, cars they use to make extra money to improve their situation. Dozens of others have opened retail delivery businesses. Some do better than others.

But none of this is exclusive to working girls or third world countries. Check out any low income area in the US. What you find? Do you get a lot of entrepreneurs turning nickels into millions? Nope. You get hookers and drug dealers and petty thieves. You get fast food workers and truck drivers and minimum wage factory workers. How many big investors do you find? You find deadbeat dads and drugged out mom's, selling blowjobs to keep those dirty needles filled. A lucky few make it out, most don't.

It doesn't take a special skill set? You're usually pretty sharp, but you might want to give that one a little more thought.

Put yourself in their shoes. See that 350 pound woman? The one that can't reach her own ass to wipe it. The one with a mouth half full of rotten teeth. The one who hasn't washed her hair in 2 weeks. Go convince her to give you $50 to fuck her. Then stick your tongue down her throat, lick that pussy, pound it out, all the time telling her how much you enjoy it.

When you're finished with her, I've got another one, short and skinny. She's 53 and losing her hair, and she wants to tie you up, stick things in your ass and call you her little b. She'll also be spanking you with a leather belt.

Next up I've got a young and pretty one for you. Nice body. She's going to want you to fuck her like a jackhammer for an hour straight in missionary. And she's not going to be happy unless you make her come.

Look around at your fellow mongers. I've met quite a few, I'm sure you've met more. Some are good looking guys who take care of themselves. They're clean and polite. But a few are either pigs or assholes and sometimes both. It might not take much skill to fuck the good-looking, nice guys. If they wanted they could be hooked up with a good looking, nice, older girl back home. What about the other guys? They're getting laid too. It doesn't take skills to overlook the flab and the bad breath and the smell? It doesn't take skill to put up with some of the ridiculous demands? It doesn't take skill to talk a guy, who doesn't speak your language, into paying 15-25% more?

[QUOTE=Forever18;2518781]Hey guys,

Quick question. If I want to meet a girl in Seeking Arrangement but her profile did not label that she is looking for "Friend with Benefit" type of relationship. And when you talk to her, the girl may say sex is not guaranteed or her profile said she is not looking for intimacy. In this situation, how much in COP should I expect to pay for the meeting and how long?.[/QUOTE]Are you sure that she's a hooker?

[QUOTE=Forever18;2518781]Hey guys,

Quick question. If I want to meet a girl in Seeking Arrangement but her profile did not label that she is looking for "Friend with Benefit" type of relationship. And when you talk to her, the girl may say sex is not guaranteed or her profile said she is not looking for intimacy. In this situation, how much in COP should I expect to pay for the meeting and how long?

I usually meet girls who are interested in "Friend with Benefit" type of relationship and I paid $400 K COP for 6-8 hours meeting or overnight that comes with intimacy, but I want to try something different and just curious.[/QUOTE]I will pay for drinks if I invite her out but nothing else when sex is not involved. Does she say she is looking for platonic relationship? I skip those.

To clarify, Medellin will start a curfew from 10 pm to 5 am. From this Wednesday, January 6 and will run until the Monday holiday, January 11.

Source: https://www.eltiempo.com/colombia/medellin/toque-de-queda-para-medellin-y-antioquia-el-puente-de-reyes-558810

New Life.
Stopped by on Monday afternoon around 3 PM. Good lineup approximately 15 that were available. No stunners, most in the 6-7 range. Most girls were not wearing masks, or would at least take them off during the presentation. Good number of patrons, so this place was quite busy. Patrons also were hit or miss on masking.

I didn't session, but I did capture their latest pricing menu.

Aifee.
Stopped by here before New Life. This is typically my go to, but very weak today. Only three available, one was doable but again I did not session as I wanted to move on to see what was happening at New Life.

Parque Lleras.
7:30 PM. Not very busy. Less than 10 girls strolling the park. Gusto's was open, I did not venture in.

Casa de Piedra (Linda Chicas), Calle 58 (Av. Oriental) # 50a-54, Big White Metal Gate. Tel: 034 254 05 98

There hasn't been a report on this place in YEARS.

Only out of nostalgia, I gave them a call earlier in the day to see if they were still open. Much to my surprise they were. Spoke with Nanci's sister, let her know that I was in town. She asked me what I was looking for. Gave her my parameters, she said she would take care of it. Call back around 10 PM, told her that I was going to come by. She asked me again what I wanted LOL.

At this point I just wanted to get a beer with Nanci. It has been many years. I walk in and it is totally dead, but I expected it. Sat down broke some bread with Nanci and her sister. I asked them if I should bother coming back later, she says hang tight a girl is on her way. Two minutes later the bell rings. Her name is Carolina, 23, no kids, very thin from Castilla. Flakita morena just like I told Nanci I was looking for. She did have a bit of a butter face, I would give her a 6.5 looks wise. I was half a mind to just move on and go to San Diego Grill Show, but this girl was very nice personality wise. I ask her how much she wants for all night at my place, and she throws out 800 k. I chuckle. I stroll over to Nanci ask her what the multa, she tells me 200 k. I say how much should I give the girl for all night? She tells me 300 k. Done deal, she even rolled my beer and the rum and Coke into the 200 k.

The prices from several years back (5+) any not all too much at all.
If you look at the PDF and compare to what I paid, way back then it was 100k exit fee, 200k chica, 275k TLN.

Carolina was great, stayed with me until 2 p. Besides anal, every single thing was on the menu. I gave her 400 k, and now I am nursing the meanest of come downs when you go skiing in this city.

[QUOTE=Bonhead;2518992]New Life.I didn't session, but I did capture their latest pricing menu.
[/QUOTE]They need to stop using an online translator. Check out 2nd bullet point under "Recommendation".

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2518929]Gentlemen of culture.

I am looking at tickets and there is a cheap Spirit one that has a 1 hour layover in FLL to go to MDE. Is this enough time being an international flight and all?

Hoping to go in Feb, thanks.[/QUOTE]Thats cutting it very close, especially on Spirit, and if they sell you the ticket, in other words your taking another flight with Spirit and you miss your connection then it would be on them to put you on the next flight to MDE but it might be the next day.

Spirit sucks and the only time I will fly with a 1 hour layover is if it's on COPA coming from LAX to PTY and they are very much on time and used to have multiple daily flights to PTY to MDE so there would be other flights available the same day.

My advice is don't chance it with Spirit with such a small layover time, albeit they may be selling you the ticket. Also if your connecting flight isn't in the same terminal it may take a while to transit at FLL it's a hassle as I experienced flying on Jetblue in November having to go to a different terminal for my connecting flight, however I had a two hour layover.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2518929]Gentlemen of culture.

I am looking at tickets and there is a cheap Spirit one that has a 1 hour layover in FLL to go to MDE. Is this enough time being an international flight and all?

Hoping to go in Feb, thanks.[/QUOTE]That should be no problem if your flight to FLL is on Spirit. As you get off the plane the Spirit sites are right there. The reason it works is you don't have to go thru the security area.

The only problem is if your flight to FLL is delayed. If it gets in a half hour late you will still make it to MDE if you move fast thru the terminal.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2519000]They need to stop using an online translator. Check out 2nd bullet point under "Recommendation".[/QUOTE]Well shit. So they tried to translate chica and ended up with that. They have 1 Time instead of 1 Hour as well. Why don't they get someone to proofread before they print stuff? They do the same thing in Thailand but for big stuff like government road signs. Seriously takes 1 second to ask an English speaker.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2518972]Again what you're talking about is the result of education, rather than intelligence.

However, there are many who do save and invest. They either invest in more education, to learn a trade, or they invest in a sideline source of extra income. I know quite a few girls in Medellin who have cars, cars bought from savings earned selling pussy, cars they use to make extra money to improve their situation. Dozens of others have opened retail delivery businesses. Some do better than others.[/QUOTE]There are not many. There are few. This is the extreme exception, not the rule. DOZENS (more than 36) of hookers have opened retail delivery businesses? Really?! Now if you had said pussy delivery businesses by putting their pictures on Tinder and Mileroticos then it would be believable.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2518972]But none of this is exclusive to working girls or third world countries. Check out any low income area in the US. What you find? A lucky few make it out, most don't.[/QUOTE]You can not even say the population at large is fairly intelligent (and I am saying nothing of studying in a classroom). You most certainly can not make this claim for a bunch of Colombian hookers.

What Sang was originally talking about is not something the girls do because they are smart, but it is simply something they learned from trial and error. The least intelligent person can touch a hot stove 3 times and pretty much will not do it again. A chick bangs 3 young stud el cheapo mongers 3 times and 3 old fart big spender mongers 3 times then through trial and error she may decide to go mostly for the easy bigger money or figure out what to say to certain people to get the extra money. It has nothing to do with being smart.

I once worked with a young redneck guy and I could not give him enough money to convince him that the sun is a star. But he was damn good at selling what we had to sell and doing the job we had to do. Still, I would in no way classify him as either smart or intelligent. He just happened to be good at that one thing through repetition and trail and error.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2519031]There are not many. There are few. This is the extreme exception, not the rule. DOZENS of hookers have opened retail delivery businesses? Really?! Now if you had said pussy delivery businesses by putting their pictures on Tinder and Mileroticos then it would be believable.

You can not even say the population at large is fairly intelligent (and I am saying nothing of studying in a classroom). You most certainly can not make this claim for a bunch of Colombian hookers.

What Sang was originally talking about is not something the girls do because they are smart, but it is simply something they learned from trial and error. The least intelligent person can touch a hot stove 3 times and pretty much will not do it again. A chick bangs 3 young stud el cheapo mongers 3 times and 3 old fart big spender mongers 3 times then through trial and error she may decide to go mostly for the easy bigger money or figure out what to say to certain people to get the extra money. It has nothing to do with being smart.

I once worked with a young redneck guy and I could not give him enough money to convince him that the sun is a star. But he was damn good at selling what we had to sell and doing the job we had to do. Still, I would in no way classify him as either smart or intelligent. He just happened to be good at that one thing through repetition and trail and error.[/QUOTE]Ever hear of this axiom? LOL.

Since they can't dazzle anyone with brilliance, they will settle for baffling you with bullshit!! LMAO.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2518929]Gentlemen of culture.

I am looking at tickets and there is a cheap Spirit one that has a 1 hour layover in FLL to go to MDE. Is this enough time being an international flight and all?

Hoping to go in Feb, thanks.[/QUOTE]Those are my favorite type of flights. Short layovers. It only takes them 15 minutes or less to get your bags from one plane to the next. FLL is a small airport. 10 minutes tops once you get off the plane and walk to your next boarding station. You should be fine.

[QUOTE=Queens35;2518976]Are you sure that she's a hooker?[/QUOTE]I guess not all girls on SA is hooker.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2518980]I will pay for drinks if I invite her out but nothing else when sex is not involved. Does she say she is looking for platonic relationship? I skip those.[/QUOTE]They usually say something like they would love to hang out to get to know each other or travel together and stuff in their profile.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2518972]Put yourself in their shoes. See that 350 pound woman? The one that can't reach her own ass to wipe it. The one with a mouth half full of rotten teeth. The one who hasn't washed her hair in 2 weeks. Go convince her to give you $50 to fuck her. Then stick your tongue down her throat, lick that pussy, pound it out, all the time telling her how much you enjoy it.[/QUOTE]This maybe true for girls in casas but we are talking about the Gusto girls which I don't think apply. They can still choose to get less from someone with better appearance or be a dead fish with undesirable customers. What you think repulsive may not be as repulsive as you think from their point of view based on your description of their environment earlier

Folks,

I got one for you.

So, I land in Medellin from Cartagena at around 8:30 pm. I've been living in Medellin for a couple of months now, and II only went to Cartagena for the long weekend, and I've missed me some fo that easy Medellin access. So I get home, shower, change, and what do I do? I head to La Isla.

Now, it's my first time in La Isla. But I wanted to go big after the Cartagena frustrations, so why not. I get there, and the place has more women than chairs. I mean, wow.

To get to the main story: this chick comes by, and starts flirting. While we're sitting, the chick that was just dancing on stage comes by, asks for a tip. I dig into the pocket, and the smallest bill is a 5 mil. I pay it. The dancer leaves. Then I go back to talking to the chick that was with me. I decide I don't want to go with her. Is she my type? More or less, yes. She's thin, with some ass. That's what I like. But she's a little advanced in the years, so I tell her "sweetheart, I don't wish any company now. But you're sweet for coming by, thank you" in Spanish.

She received it like a lady, but what impressed me most was what she said next. She said babe, you might want to exchange your cash for 2's, so that you don't keep tipping with 5's. She sends a guy my way to get me change, kisses me on the cheek and leaves. I really liked that.

Well, after an hour f walking around La Isla, and getting bedazzled by the stuff over there, I decide you know what? Sure this girl is a little old, but at least she deserves it, and she's familiar to me. Plus, she seems to know absolutely everybody in the club--this will be a good first introduction to La Isla. I find her. She's a little drunk at this point, but I go with her nonetheless. I pay the 300 mil house fee, and we go to the room.

We get into the room, and all is good. We begin going at it, and boy it's fun. But! She's a little drunk, and I notice it. 20 minutes later she turns to me, says "baby, can you finish?" I say uhh, later, why? She says "well, I'm really drunk. " And at this point, I can see that the alcohol really got to her. She was beyond tipsy. She was hammered, and she doesn't feel well. She begins contorting on the bed, her stomach convulsing.

It was a buzzkill for me. I just forked 300 mil, and you can't continue? But some angel descends upon me at that moment, and says "be a gentleman". Immediately my attitude changes, I get up, I ask the cleaning lady for a bottle of water, and I help her to the bathroom. She throws up. Comes back, feels better but the dose of shame and regret falls upon her. Begins saying how much she's ashamed, how this never happened to her. I comfort her, tell her it's nothing, relax.

Then the kicker comes. How old do you think I am? I say Ii don't know, 31 maybe? (I'm lying course). She says babe, I'm old enough that I have a daughter who works here. My ears perk up. Daughter, you say? We go back to the main lounge, and I insist that she pint out her daughter. She doesn't want to do it, because not many people know about that, and her daughter is embarrassed by it. But I get it out of her nonetheless, and she points out her daughter.

I don't have a huge mother / daughter fantasy. But what an opportunity to say "I've banged a mother and a daughter in the same night once". I am a mortal, after all. So after the daughter I go.

The daughter was sweet as sugar. Definitely her mother's daughter--same facial mannerisms, and even more sweet. She doesn't have her mother's bed game, but god is she sweet? And great vivacious personality too, just makes you happy to be with her. BTW, mother is 40; daughter is 21.

Time well spent. 600 mil in the hole, yes, but I suppose my hypothetical future grandkids may be proud of this one.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2519016]Well shit. So they tried to translate chica and ended up with that. They have 1 Time instead of 1 Hour as well. Why don't they get someone to proofread before they print stuff? They do the same thing in Thailand but for big stuff like government road signs. Seriously takes 1 second to ask an English speaker.[/QUOTE]Go to a dollar store and read the instructions and descriptions on the cheap made in China toys.

So help me understand, there are guys who can't get fucked out of Gustos even if they pay US $300? It doesn't seem real to me. Maybe it's beyond the comprehension of a Centro rat.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2519099]This maybe true for girls in casas but we are talking about the Gusto girls which I don't think apply. They can still choose to get less from someone with better appearance or be a dead fish with undesirable customers. What you think repulsive may not be as repulsive as you think from their point of view based on your description of their environment earlier[/QUOTE]

I haven't had time to read the last several pages, but I will give a quick update:

Arrived at MDE from PTY.

Migracion wanted to see passport and checkmig form. He asked my where I'm staying and for how long.

That was it. Nothing about PCR.

I saw on FB that a guy recently arrived and they told him they would begin the PCR or Quarantine restriction on Jan 12, but I have not had any time to verify that.

Back in heaven but with a fucking gong show of an apartment. They fucking place didn't even have pillows! They rushed to get it "ready" and the owner supposedly didn't know it's condition. I slept 3 hours since Sunday, going into last night, thanks to Spirit Airlines. All I wanted was a decent night sleep, and I arrived to no pillows, the loudest A / see in the world, no blinds / drapes, a mattress that feels like the floor, and a blanket that feels like a rug. Good times. Jacuzzi was almost overflowing with water and had shit all over the seats / bottom.

I sent a huge list of requests and said if it can't be done by tomorrow (toque de queda) to return my money and I'll find another place. Not a good start.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2519031]There are not many. There are few. This is the extreme exception, not the rule. DOZENS (more than 36) of hookers have opened retail delivery businesses? Really?! Now if you had said pussy delivery businesses by putting their pictures on Tinder and Mileroticos then it would be believable.

You can not even say the population at large is fairly intelligent (and I am saying nothing of studying in a classroom). You most certainly can not make this claim for a bunch of Colombian hookers.

What Sang was originally talking about is not something the girls do because they are smart, but it is simply something they learned from trial and error. The least intelligent person can touch a hot stove 3 times and pretty much will not do it again. A chick bangs 3 young stud el cheapo mongers 3 times and 3 old fart big spender mongers 3 times then through trial and error she may decide to go mostly for the easy bigger money or figure out what to say to certain people to get the extra money. It has nothing to do with being smart.

I once worked with a young redneck guy and I could not give him enough money to convince him that the sun is a star. But he was damn good at selling what we had to sell and doing the job we had to do. Still, I would in no way classify him as either smart or intelligent. He just happened to be good at that one thing through repetition and trail and error.[/QUOTE]"It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt".

Mark Twain.

You can't fix stoopid bro.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2518892]Attached is new curfew and dry law days and hours. Too lazy to translate it all, but this weekend is a 3 day holiday weekend (Colombia has lots of random holidays), so dry law starts Friday to Monday. Just some info for those heading here this week. I've been here 2 months and no curfew or dry law or however many covid strains going to stop this chino paisa from getting his party on haha.[/QUOTE]Depending on what sketchy Internet source you use, and your definitions (bank holidays vs church holidays, etc) Colombia falls somewhere from First to Third for most national holidays of any country in the world. Seems like there is at least one three-day weekend every month, probably more than that since I believe the number of holidays is in the upper teens, not verified.

Random pics of my Numero Uno Girl and Novia, you have seen her at CatGirl before. She is up on the Family Pueblo picking coffee beans, perfect time for me to fly into Medellin under the radar and see the rest of the girls in my line-up.

I feel for you. Thats the crapshoot that is airbnb. I hate it but at the same time love it. Sometimes you can find good deals. But recently I've had better luck with hotels and I know what I'm getting.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2519169]I haven't had time to read the last several pages, but I will give a quick update:

Arrived at MDE from PTY.

Migracion wanted to see passport and checkmig form. He asked my where I'm staying and for how long.

That was it. Nothing about PCR.

I saw on FB that a guy recently arrived and they told him they would begin the PCR or Quarantine restriction on Jan 12, but I have not had any time to verify that.

Back in heaven but with a fucking gong show of an apartment. They fucking place didn't even have pillows! They rushed to get it "ready" and the owner supposedly didn't know it's condition. I slept 3 hours since Sunday, going into last night, thanks to Spirit Airlines. All I wanted was a decent night sleep, and I arrived to no pillows, the loudest A / see in the world, no blinds / drapes, a mattress that feels like the floor, and a blanket that feels like a rug. Good times. Jacuzzi was almost overflowing with water and had shit all over the seats / bottom.

I sent a huge list of requests and said if it can't be done by tomorrow (toque de queda) to return my money and I'll find another place. Not a good start.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2519059]Those are my favorite type of flights. Short layovers. It only takes them 15 minutes or less to get your bags from one plane to the next. FLL is a small airport. 10 minutes tops once you get off the plane and walk to your next boarding station. You should be fine.[/QUOTE]This wasn't my experience at FLL, I had to go to a different terminal for a connecting flight on Jetblue and I agree the short layovers are great, but Spirit from wherever in the USA to Fll for a one hour layover I still think is a crapshoot.

Welcome back and sorry about the apartment woes. You should start working on your plan b if you haven't already. I doubt you would be denied a refund under the circumstances you described.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2519169]I haven't had time to read the last several pages, but I will give a quick update:

Arrived at MDE from PTY.

Migracion wanted to see passport and checkmig form. He asked my where I'm staying and for how long.

That was it. Nothing about PCR.

I saw on FB that a guy recently arrived and they told him they would begin the PCR or Quarantine restriction on Jan 12, but I have not had any time to verify that.

Back in heaven but with a fucking gong show of an apartment. They fucking place didn't even have pillows! They rushed to get it "ready" and the owner supposedly didn't know it's condition. I slept 3 hours since Sunday, going into last night, thanks to Spirit Airlines. All I wanted was a decent night sleep, and I arrived to no pillows, the loudest A / see in the world, no blinds / drapes, a mattress that feels like the floor, and a blanket that feels like a rug. Good times. Jacuzzi was almost overflowing with water and had shit all over the seats / bottom..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DoneDeal;2519111]Mother and Daughter[/QUOTE]Next time you can exchange small bills at the counter when you enter or just have your waiter do it for you.

[QUOTE=DoneDeal;2519111]Folks,

I got one for you.

So, I land in Medellin from Cartagena at around 8:30 pm. I've been living in Medellin for a couple of months now, and II only went to Cartagena for the long weekend, and I've missed me some fo that easy Medellin access. So I get home, shower, change, and what do I do? I head to La Isla.

Now, it's my first time in La Isla. But I wanted to go big after the Cartagena frustrations, so why not. I get there, and the place has more women than chairs. I mean, wow.

To get to the main story: this chick comes by, and starts flirting. While we're sitting, the chick that was just dancing on stage comes by, asks for a tip. I dig into the pocket, and the smallest bill is a 5 mil. I pay it. The dancer leaves. Then I go back to talking to the chick that was with me. I decide I don't want to go with her. Is she my type? More or less, yes. She's thin, with some ass. That's what I like. But she's a little advanced in the years, so I tell her "sweetheart, I don't wish any company now. But you're sweet for coming by, thank you" in Spanish.

She received it like a lady, but what impressed me most was what she said next. She said babe, you might want to exchange your cash for 2's, so that you don't keep tipping with 5's. She sends a guy my way to get me change, kisses me on the cheek and leaves. I really liked that...[/QUOTE]Why were you frustrated in Cartagena? I've had good experiences there.

[QUOTE=Forever18;2518781]Hey guys,

Quick question. If I want to meet a girl in Seeking Arrangement but her profile did not label that she is looking for "Friend with Benefit" type of relationship. And when you talk to her, the girl may say sex is not guaranteed or her profile said she is not looking for intimacy. In this situation, how much in COP should I expect to pay for the meeting and how long?

I usually meet girls who are interested in "Friend with Benefit" type of relationship and I paid $400 K COP for 6-8 hours meeting or overnight that comes with intimacy, but I want to try something different and just curious.[/QUOTE]So you want to fly to a foreign city known for prostitution and pay $100 per month to use a mongering app, to meet a female for a paid platonic relationship?

Are you off your meds?

Honestly some of these dating app threads are starting to look like a coordinated troll attack. It just doesn't seem real, even though I know it is because I've seen guys into it with my own eyes.

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2519254]So you want to fly to a foreign city known for prostitution and pay $100 per month to use a mongering app, to meet a female for a paid platonic relationship?

Are you off your meds?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GrownMan1;2519059]Those are my favorite type of flights. Short layovers. It only takes them 15 minutes or less to get your bags from one plane to the next. FLL is a small airport. 10 minutes tops once you get off the plane and walk to your next boarding station. You should be fine.[/QUOTE]Called Spirit, they said 1 hour is enough and that they will transfer my bags.

DoneDeal, was there no good pussy in Cartagena?

I was considering sacrificing one of my three weekends in MDE to go to Cartagena for a long weekend, I hear there's lots of prepagos by the clocktower and some decent clubs.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2519272]Called Spirit, they said 1 hour is enough and that they will transfer my bags.

DoneDeal, was there no good pussy in Cartagena?

I was considering sacrificing one of my three weekends in MDE to go to Cartagena for a long weekend, I hear there's lots of prepagos by the clocktower and some decent clubs.[/QUOTE]As a Cartagena first timer, I found it amazing. Thinking about checking out Medellin next week. Dolce Vita was cool, but Delirium was amazing. Spent NYE in the 2nd floor of Delirium. Everyone will start between 300 k and 400 k and most will settle for 200 k. Only one bad experience w a girl that took me too long to get out of my place. I am def considering not bring anyone over anymore and get a by the hour spot to go to.

Any Medellin tips would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2519179]I feel for you. Thats the crapshoot that is airbnb. I hate it but at the same time love it. Sometimes you can find good deals. But recently I've had better luck with hotels and I know what I'm getting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2519201]Welcome back and sorry about the apartment woes. You should start working on your plan b if you haven't already. I doubt you would be denied a refund under the circumstances you described.[/QUOTE]Appreciated, fellas. I had a staff of 4 going nuts in the apartment, all day. The sweet señora is still here. I was delighted to return to a nice-looking bed, WITH PILLOWS, clean floors, a new living room sofa table, a clean jacuzzi, some extra towels, kitchen items put away, etc. I'll do a sweep, tonight, and make some final requests. I'll also hopefully get a good night sleep.

I took a cab to New Life to relieve some stress. I walked around looking for an ATM, since 6 of them at the mall didn't work, this morning. I couldn't find one, and ended up walking thru Botero. Nothing caught my eye, which is not surprising, since I've never sessioned there. It was hot, and I was have a work-related three-alarm fire on my phone. I saw one darker girl on the northwest corner of Botero, towards the De Grief intersection, that was decent-looking. I have never seen Premier Plaza, knowingly, and didn't pull up the WorldTraveler map. I'll try to scope it, next time.

Looks like I'll be taking in the NFL / NCAA games at home, this weekend.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2519169]Back in heaven but with a fucking gong show of an apartment. They fucking place didn't even have pillows! They rushed to get it "ready" and the owner supposedly didn't know it's condition. I slept 3 hours since Sunday, going into last night, thanks to Spirit Airlines. All I wanted was a decent night sleep, and I arrived to no pillows, the loudest A / see in the world, no blinds / drapes, a mattress that feels like the floor, and a blanket that feels like a rug. Good times. Jacuzzi was almost overflowing with water and had shit all over the seats / bottom.

I sent a huge list of requests and said if it can't be done by tomorrow (toque de queda) to return my money and I'll find another place. Not a good start.[/QUOTE]So out of curiousity, where was this apartment located, how big, and how much a month. Was this thru an agency or something thru Airbnb.

I remember once renting an apartment near the intersection of Calle 10 and Avendia Poblado right behind the Carulla that had an excellent view and after doing the walk thru discovered stained sheets in the Master Bedroom and no Cable service to the flat screen in the living room. And I complained and they made everything right, yet lesson learned you have to check everything even the plumbing to verify there's hot water before accepting occupancy, yet the owners can be assholes, and not do stuff, and then you have to fight them to get your money back, hopefully they will take care of everything for you without any problems.

It's nice to hear your landlord came through. There is an ATM in the Nutibara hotel ground floor near the lobby. New Life I'm pretty sure accepts credit cards. Break that Centro cherry.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2519298]Appreciated, fellas. I had a staff of 4 going nuts in the apartment, all day. The sweet seora is still here. I was delighted to return to a nice-looking bed, WITH PILLOWS, clean floors, a new living room sofa table, a clean jacuzzi, some extra towels, kitchen items put away, etc. I'll do a sweep, tonight, and make some final requests. I'll also hopefully get a good night sleep.

I took a cab to New Life to relieve some stress. I walked around looking for an ATM, since 6 of them at the mall didn't work, this morning. I couldn't find one, and ended up walking thru Botero. Nothing caught my eye, which is not surprising, since I've never sessioned there. It was hot, and I was have a work-related three-alarm fire on my phone. I saw one darker girl on the northwest corner of Botero, towards the De Grief intersection, that was decent-looking. I have never seen Premier Plaza, knowingly, and didn't pull up the WorldTraveler map. I'll try to scope it, next time.

Looks like I'll be taking in the NFL / NCAA games at home, this weekend.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2519322]It's nice to hear your landlord came through. There is an ATM in the Nutibara hotel ground floor near the lobby. New Life I'm pretty sure accepts credit cards. Break that Centro cherry.[/QUOTE]I don't see Slapshot breaking that El Centro cherry anytime soon, so I'm not holding my breath. But God forbid if he actually partakes one of these days. It might be a day that goes down in infamy for him, but hopefully not!

OK. Just saw a youtube video about Gustos preparing for my Medellin visit and in the comments I see people talking about chicas asking for $150 USD and up in parque Lleras. Is this what is expected? If so, I might as well stay in Cartagena where they will all take $200 K COP. Some guidance please.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2519272]Called Spirit, they said 1 hour is enough and that they will transfer my bags.

DoneDeal, was there no good pussy in Cartagena?

I was considering sacrificing one of my three weekends in MDE to go to Cartagena for a long weekend, I hear there's lots of prepagos by the clocktower and some decent clubs.[/QUOTE]Plenty of beauties and action in Cartagena. But not the style of action I like, I suppose? If Delirium / Dolce Vita had hotels attached like Fase II / La Isla, I'd like it more. Anyways, don't want to go on about it as this is not the CTG forum, but brief version is I eventually managed a 600 mil todo la noche deal from a sweetheart at Dolce Vita, brought her to my hotel and had a lovely time.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2519266]Honestly some of these dating app threads are starting to look like a coordinated troll attack. It just doesn't seem real, even though I know it is because I've seen guys into it with my own eyes.[/QUOTE]Behavioral psychologists helped design these apps, with a certain demographic and personality type in mind, no different than the owner of Gustos.

This is not rocket science, and the higher you raise the monthly fee, the more you will filter out the smartest mongers and will get closer and closer to your ultimate target.

$100 this month pretty soon $200 then $500.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2518772]Is it still 300 k on site? Heard fase dos is the same thing.[/QUOTE]Affirmative. Both going for 300 k.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2519272]Called Spirit, they said 1 hour is enough and that they will transfer my bags.[/QUOTE]FFL is Spirit's headquarters and is a small airport. But still you should rush to your gate because many times the gates change and you have to go to the other end of the airport.

FYI. Spirit is notorious for customers missing flights. They leave a very small window for transfers. If your plane is delayed by 10 minutes (weather or more likely someone getting kicked off for not wearing a mask), you have to cross a medium to large sized airport, or you mistakenly go to the wrong end of the airport you can miss a flight.

You should be fine since it is a small airport.

[QUOTE=DoneDeal;2519367]Plenty of beauties and action in Cartagena. But not the style of action I like, I suppose? If Delirium / Dolce Vita had hotels attached like Fase II / La Isla, I'd like it more. Anyways, don't want to go on about it as this is not the CTG forum, but brief version is I eventually managed a 600 mil todo la noche deal from a sweetheart at Dolce Vita, brought her to my hotel and had a lovely time.[/QUOTE]I went to several clubs not in the old city. I like a small club named Angel, pricing is similar to La Isla, girl quality is on par with La Isla when I was there. Less than 10 girls, but I am the only customer. I had to get rid of my driver and went back alone. The girl that I went back for said "se fue" with a sad expression when she saw me again, and I took her to the room. She asked for a drink, the drink and the session is about 350 mil based on my memory. There is also a good hot dog or sandwich place across the street.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2519449]FFL is Spirit's headquarters and is a small airport. But still you should rush to your gate because many times the gates change and you have to go to the other end of the airport.

FYI. Spirit is notorious for customers missing flights. They leave a very small window for transfers. If your plane is delayed by 10 minutes (weather or more likely someone getting kicked off for not wearing a mask), you have to cross a medium to large sized airport, or you mistakenly go to the wrong end of the airport you can miss a flight.

You should be fine since it is a small airport.[/QUOTE]It's actually a larger airport than I thought with different terminals as I had a Jetblue flight from Medellin connecting in FLL and then on to LAX in November.

Albeit is was a connecting flight going in the opposite direction, it was a total gaggle with confusion at Customs and long waits, thankfully I have Global Entry, and upon arriving had to go to another terminal which took about fifteen minutes.

Hopefully everything will work out for the poster with the one hour layover, however Spirit is not going to tell a customer they sold a ticket too not to worry about missing a connection, IE; no problem, no worries, but what you have pointed out about them being not on time is a well known fact, especially coming from some where in the USA versus from Medellin, hence I would be very reluctant with a one hour layover with Spirit, but hopefully for this poster his layover will be sufficient.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2519031]There are not many. There are few. This is the extreme exception, not the rule. DOZENS (more than 36) of hookers have opened retail delivery businesses? Really?! Now if you had said pussy delivery businesses by putting their pictures on Tinder and Mileroticos then it would be believable.

You can not even say the population at large is fairly intelligent (and I am saying nothing of studying in a classroom). You most certainly can not make this claim for a bunch of Colombian hookers.

What Sang was originally talking about is not something the girls do because they are smart, but it is simply something they learned from trial and error. The least intelligent person can touch a hot stove 3 times and pretty much will not do it again. A chick bangs 3 young stud el cheapo mongers 3 times and 3 old fart big spender mongers 3 times then through trial and error she may decide to go mostly for the easy bigger money or figure out what to say to certain people to get the extra money. It has nothing to do with being smart.

I once worked with a young redneck guy and I could not give him enough money to convince him that the sun is a star. But he was damn good at selling what we had to sell and doing the job we had to do. Still, I would in no way classify him as either smart or intelligent. He just happened to be good at that one thing through repetition and trail and error.[/QUOTE]It appears at least some of them are smarter than you think. Nearly every day you're somewhere on ISG talking about all the free pussy waiting for you everywhere. Yet somehow those stupid hookers are able to get you to pass up some free pussy in favor of paying for their pussy.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2519173]Depending on what sketchy Internet source you use, and your definitions (bank holidays vs church holidays, etc) Colombia falls somewhere from First to Third for most national holidays of any country in the world. Seems like there is at least one three-day weekend every month, probably more than that since I believe the number of holidays is in the upper teens, not verified.

Random pics of my Numero Uno Girl and Novia, you have seen her at CatGirl before. She is up on the Family Pueblo picking coffee beans, perfect time for me to fly into Medellin under the radar and see the rest of the girls in my line-up.[/QUOTE]It averages out to every other week being a 3 day weekend in Colombia. Although a few of the holiday weekends are consecutive, so you aren't guaranteed a holiday every other Monday. There are 26 national holidays in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Fech75;2519350]OK. Just saw a youtube video about Gustos preparing for my Medellin visit and in the comments I see people talking about chicas asking for $150 USD and up in parque Lleras. Is this what is expected? If so, I might as well stay in Cartagena where they will all take $200 K COP. Some guidance please.[/QUOTE]You're talking 2 different things.

Gusto is one of the clubs in Parque Lleras. Girls working inside Gusto generally ask for 400 k and up. 400 k is roughly $120. Many girls inside Gusto will ask for $200 or more. You have 3 options, if you decide Gusto is where you want to find girls.

1. Accept the price.

2. Wait until closing time and offer a lower price.

3. Get WhatsApp numbers and negotiate with them the next day.

Aside from Gusto, there are many girls working the area in and around Parque Lleras, including inside other bars and restaurants. They will typically ask for 200-250 k, although some may ask for more or accept less.

Between Gusto and Parque Lleras you have access to about 1% of the available working girls in Medellin, and only for about 4 hours per night.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2519322]It's nice to hear your landlord came through. There is an ATM in the Nutibara hotel ground floor near the lobby. New Life I'm pretty sure accepts credit cards. Break that Centro cherry.[/QUOTE]I don't like that particular ATM or Banco Colombia ATM in general. I tried to withdraw from that ATM 3 times. All appeared to be successful but no cash came out.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2519298] I have never seen Premier Plaza, knowingly, and didn't pull up the WorldTraveler map. I'll try to scope it, next time.[/QUOTE]It is on the same side as the church. You should see the entrance next to Tostao cafe.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2519479]I went to several clubs not in the old city. I like a small club named Angel, pricing is similar to La Isla, girl quality is on par with La Isla when I was there. Less than 10 girls, but I am the only customer. I had to get rid of my driver and went back alone. The girl that I went back for said "se fue" with a sad expression when she saw me again, and I took her to the room. She asked for a drink, the drink and the session is about 350 mil based on my memory. There is also a good hot dog or sandwich place across the street.[/QUOTE]That sounds more like my kind of setup. Good tip.

[QUOTE=Fech75;2519350]OK. Just saw a youtube video about Gustos preparing for my Medellin visit and in the comments I see people talking about chicas asking for $150 USD and up in parque Lleras. Is this what is expected? If so, I might as well stay in Cartagena where they will all take $200 K COP. Some guidance please.[/QUOTE]Inside the club, yes they will ask for crazy prices. Outside the clubs is a different story. You can get a girl hanging around the park for a decent price depending on the girl and time of the day and how long you want to meet up for. You can also try and get the whatsapp number form the girls at Gusto and meet them outside the club and I hear they will be more willing to meet for a lower price. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2519300]So out of curiousity, where was this apartment located, how big, and how much a month. Was this thru an agency or something thru Airbnb.

I remember once renting an apartment near the intersection of Calle 10 and Avendia Poblado right behind the Carulla that had an excellent view and after doing the walk thru discovered stained sheets in the Master Bedroom and no Cable service to the flat screen in the living room. And I complained and they made everything right, yet lesson learned you have to check everything even the plumbing to verify there's hot water before accepting occupancy, yet the owners can be assholes, and not do stuff, and then you have to fight them to get your money back, hopefully they will take care of everything for you without any problems.[/QUOTE]Laureles, 170 sq mt, 2br/3ba, 1 balcony / 2 terraces, jacuzzi, office, laundry room, CA King, A/C, modern, 6.250.000/mo. I found it through an agency then went directly through the owner. Saved a penny. It was so F'd when I arrived, but they've done a good job since then. It honestly just needed some one with a vagina to walk in and make a list. Which is weird, because I have sent about 6 lists, by now. I guess, a woman could have made a single list. Anyway, I had a giant bag of shit show up for the kitchen, today, by domicilio. It was all stuff I messaged about, this morning. W / the is arriving after the weekend (upgraded from just the washer that is brand new here). Outdoor furniture on the non-jacuzzi terrace would be nice. A BBQ would be nice. A few other little things that I'm confident will get straightened out. The one idiotic thing is that the jacuzzi is on the master bedroom terrace, instead of the office terrace. The office terrace is bigger and with a better (corner) view. The days of 2020 quarantine prices are gone, I'm afraid.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2519336]I don't see Slapshot breaking that El Centro cherry anytime soon, so I'm not holding my breath. But God forbid if he actually partakes one of these days. It might be a day that goes down in infamy for him, but hopefully not![/QUOTE]I don't think New Life counts as Centro, per se, but if it does, I want some fucking whiskers! I'm about 0-for-8 career in Botero sweeps. I keep trying, though.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2519510]It is on the same side as the church. You should see the entrance next to Tostao cafe.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for Tostao, next time.

Enjoy your quarantine weekend. I'll be plastered to the couch, trying to ration my alcohol intake. As far as ATMs, I saw on Google Maps there was a ScotiaBank off Cl 33, west of UPB, but I think that's outdated info. The closest I can remember is on the other side of the autopista. If anyone knows of one closer to Laureles, please share info. Otherwise, maybe I'll just max-out every time I go to Lleras at the Exito Wow ScotiaBank ATM.

Arrived in Bogot via the Netherlands for my connecting flight to Medellin with a 2 hour window. Immigration queue even slower than Thailand so missed the connection but that didn't matter because KLM messed up the connecting tickets with Avianca and I had to get a new ticket for 3 hours later along with other passengers. To top it all off a girl who is a reliable source of info tells me she's leaving town because there is a complete lockdown tomorrow from 7 pm until Tuesday. What's app another BM to confirm which he has, my god 4 days locked in without as much as as sticky finger. I guess I better bang my brains out until 7 tomorrow. Does anyone else have any official info on this as I'm surprised no one's mentioned it.

By the way I was also asked for a Covid test by immigration.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2519491]It averages out to every other week being a 3 day weekend in Colombia. Although a few of the holiday weekends are consecutive, so you aren't guaranteed a holiday every other Monday. There are 26 national holidays in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Small side note for the record here, some of the national holidays are regional, with a few not celebrated in all "departments" of the Country, and I think a few of the holidays also don't fall on a Monday's either.

Not that all this matters, but the Australians kinda take after the Colombians, I worked there for a while, and they had lots of holidays on Mondays, and then the unions would have holidays on Fridays, so they had lots of 4 day weekends.

Also since where on the subject, one of the ways to say a long weekend in Spanish is "el puente" which you will hear a lot of people in Colombia use for the all of the three day weekends, but "puente" also is the word for bridge. Important stuff to know, LOL!

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2519576]Arrived in Bogot via the Netherlands for my connecting flight to Medellin with a 2 hour window. Immigration queue even slower than Thailand so missed the connection but that didn't matter because KLM messed up the connecting tickets with Avianca and I had to get a new ticket for 3 hours later along with other passengers. To top it all off a girl who is a reliable source of info tells me she's leaving town because there is a complete lockdown tomorrow from 7 pm until Tuesday. What's app another BM to confirm which he has, my god 4 days locked in without as much as as sticky finger. I guess I better bang my brains out until 7 tomorrow. Does anyone else have any official info on this as I'm surprised no one's mentioned it.

By the way I was also asked for a Covid test by immigration.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately the information you were told is correct, the lockdown in Medellin is from Friday night at 7 PM until Tuesday morning at 5 AM I hate to be the bearer of bad news.

[QUOTE=Fech75;2519350]OK. Just saw a youtube video about Gustos preparing for my Medellin visit and in the comments I see people talking about chicas asking for $150 USD and up in parque Lleras. Is this what is expected? If so, I might as well stay in Cartagena where they will all take $200 K COP. Some guidance please.[/QUOTE] Gustos is where the chicas ask for $200, there may be some tricky chica out in the park asking $150 but she is only going to get that from a sucker. Everyone else knows that out in Lleras park the price is 200 k, it is not as concentrated as say the clock tower in Cartagena but my last night in Medellin last trip I fucked 3 chicas out of there in one night. Cuties too.

That is like the tip of the iceberg though - read this thread and learn about the action down in El Centro where you get away with paying SWs like 30k , there are strip clubs mentioned here, there are casas, there are tinder chicas, there are Facebook chicas, , there are chicas on SA, there is the Mansion, massage parlors, escort websites, Medellin has easily 100 time more chicas than Cartagena but there spread out geographically and different in methods of finding and engaging them. You need to go back in this thread over a year though to get far enough behind the Coronavirus to learn anything, go back to about July 2019 and read through to March 2020 and you will learn so much that you will not want to miss Medellin.

Make a simple start though and go to this link which is where the Medellin List is downloadable in PDF form. If for any reason the link does not work it is located in the Medellin Map and List thread that can be found by backing out of this thread to the Colombia forum and scrolling down until you see it. The map is in thread also. Copy and paste the URL I do not think it is clickable

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4002-Medellin-Map-and-List

Fellas,

I am planning my trip for next month, looking for a home base.

When I went to MDE a few years ago I remember tons of hot working girls at night around parque Lleras.

Are girls currently walking around parque Lleras most hours of hour of the day, like any around noon?

I am thinking of getting a airbnb without a doorman near parque Lleras to just pull girls back there for whenever the mood strikes me, what do you guys think?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2519583]Unfortunately the information you were told is correct, the lockdown in Medellin is from Friday night at 7 PM until Tuesday morning at 5 AM I hate to be the bearer of bad news.[/QUOTE]If one of my girls from Bogota is correct and I have no reason to doubt her, the same lockdown holds true for Bogota.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2519583]Unfortunately the information you were told is correct, the lockdown in Medellin is from Friday night at 7 PM until Tuesday morning at 5 AM I hate to be the bearer of bad news.[/QUOTE]Dang I'm flying to Medellin tomorrow. I get there really late but will be stuck for Saturday-Monday in my apartment then. I took a covid test so that won't be a problem for me. But I read you will be allowed in a have to quarantine until you can get a test done. Still, sad news.

Anybody cancelling their trips?

Seems like there is a good chance moving restrictions / curfews will be extended past the holidays. No casas, no strip clubs, no parque lleras. Online (SA, FB) would the only way to go, unless you are a seasoned monger with lots of contacts lined up.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2519607]Anybody cancelling their trips?

Seems like there is a good chance moving restrictions / curfews will be extended past the holidays. No casas, no strip clubs, no parque lleras. Online (SA, FB) would the only way to go, unless you are a seasoned monger with lots of contacts lined up.[/QUOTE]I was already planing on using mainly FB girls both new ones and from my last trip so I'll stick with that if the restrictions are extended.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2519590]Fellas,

I am planning my trip for next month, looking for a home base.

When I went to MDE a few years ago I remember tons of hot working girls at night around parque Lleras.

Are girls currently walking around parque Lleras most hours of hour of the day, like any around noon?

I am thinking of getting a airbnb without a doorman near parque Lleras to just pull girls back there for whenever the mood strikes me, what do you guys think?[/QUOTE]I was there last week when there was no quarantine and it was practically empty.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2519607]Anybody cancelling their trips?

Seems like there is a good chance moving restrictions / curfews will be extended past the holidays. No casas, no strip clubs, no parque lleras. Online (SA, FB) would the only way to go, unless you are a seasoned monger with lots of contacts lined up.[/QUOTE]I've been in Medellin for a couple of months, but I'm now looking for flights to Santa Marta to escape lockdown. May be able to line up a girl with me (not a prepago--just a girl I met at a clothing store, 20 year old heart of gold paisa. Pray for me that it works).

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2519607]Anybody cancelling their trips?

Seems like there is a good chance moving restrictions / curfews will be extended past the holidays. No casas, no strip clubs, no parque lleras. Online (SA, FB) would the only way to go, unless you are a seasoned monger with lots of contacts lined up.[/QUOTE]Arriving early February keeping a close eye on everything. I'll move my trip a month but not sure if that would make a difference so I might just go for it.

Here's a picture of the front door signs at Energy Living just put up a short time ago

When I came through immigration this afternoon I was asked for my PCR test negative result and luckily I did take the test Monday morning. The agent told me today was the first day a test result was needed with this new ruling. You can still enter without she said but a 14 day quarantine is required or get tested here to be released from quarantine. Just fyi I took the test at a CVS and had my results Wednesday morning so less than 48 hours. American Airlines knew nothing about the test requirement maybe because you are allowed to enter with or without it so they don't need to ship you back

[QUOTE=Moso2;2513080]These were my first attempts after arriving.

1. Eros casa Laureles near UPB.

I found this on mileroticos and visited late in the afternoon before rush hour. I casually walked by the guy who was busy on his phone and headed to the third floor. Other floors are where the ladies stay and perform. Sitting on a couch I chose from a line up of about six ladies. They waited for an additional lady, but she did not show. Many of the ladies seemed to not be too excited about being there, so I chose a taller Rola with a great body and attitude, but a less than average face. My priority is a good attitude.

She took me to the elevator and then started to inquire about which room we should use. The place was clean and she danced with me for a while before showing me the prices on a sign on the wall near the bed. I chose 60 k + 10 k room fee + oral al natural 30 k upgrade for a total of 100 k. She left with the money and it took a while for her to return. She did use her phone a lot and then had me take a warm shower with a bar of soap. She handed me a clean towel to dry off. The oral was okay and I had to coax her to keep giving it, but she did not complain. One garganta profunda which is not that important to me...[/QUOTE]I visited Eros two more times because the women or middle people on Mileroticos and Photoprepagos have not been responsive on messaging platforms.

It seems like all of the women are Venezuelan and are not very excited to be there. If you want the larger room that has a bathroom in the room and warm water, you will most likely need to pay 10 k or 20 k more. One reason I go here is that I am guaranteed to get service and oral al natural is on the menu for 30 k. The first time I went there I was lucky and was in the larger room without having to pay. The second visit was not very good. The last visit I tried to gauge who would at least make an attempt at giving me reasonable oral al natural. I was more attracted to a taller lighter skin Venezuelan, but it seemed like another one would give me better service. She waited and talked a long time as I could tell she does not enjoy her job, but I laid down and she finally started. She wanted to stop many times, but towards the end she was giving me better service. She had lubricant unlike the previous lady, but I did not really enjoy doing the deed and enjoy the oral al natural much more. So, I need to find a provider who gives good oral al natural and if I am a good boy termine en la bocita.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2519645]Here's a picture of the front door signs at Energy Living just put up a short time ago[/QUOTE]Wow this is a game changer especially for that building. I'm assuming it's only the holiday weekend?

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2519607]Anybody cancelling their trips?

Seems like there is a good chance moving restrictions / curfews will be extended past the holidays. No casas, no strip clubs, no parque lleras. Online (SA, FB) would the only way to go, unless you are a seasoned monger with lots of contacts lined up.[/QUOTE]I can only get to Colombia via Copa Airlines and there aren't even any flights from my country (Jamaica) for the entire year as of right now. It sucks but it looks like it will be 2 years of this stupid covid19 pandemic and no Colombianas for me atleast.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2519559]As far as ATMs, I saw on Google Maps there was a ScotiaBank off Cl 33, west of UPB, but I think that's outdated info. The closest I can remember is on the other side of the autopista. If anyone knows of one closer to Laureles, please share info. Otherwise, maybe I'll just max-out every time I go to Lleras at the Exito Wow ScotiaBank ATM.[/QUOTE]There are Scotiabank-Colpatria branches with an ATM at Cra. 76 #35-20 and on the second floor of Exito Laureles, in the Viva shopping center.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2519665]There are Scotiabank-Colpatria branches with an ATM at Cra. 76 #35-20 and on the second floor of Exito Laureles, in the Viva shopping center.[/QUOTE]Yes, I saw the Scotiabank-Colpatria branch in the narrow hall that branches off from the main part of the mall and heads towards the parking lot. I think it was on the second floor.

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2519590]Fellas,

I am planning my trip for next month, looking for a home base.

When I went to MDE a few years ago I remember tons of hot working girls at night around parque Lleras.

Are girls currently walking around parque Lleras most hours of hour of the day, like any around noon?

I am thinking of getting a airbnb without a doorman near parque Lleras to just pull girls back there for whenever the mood strikes me, what do you guys think?[/QUOTE]I have not seen them there during the day, there is action in El Centro during the day but that would be a long trip to bring a chica back to Parque Lleras.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2519645]Here's a picture of the front door signs at Energy Living just put up a short time ago[/QUOTE]Are you going to resort to the short time hotel / motel scene or is that available right now?

[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2519254]So you want to fly to a foreign city known for prostitution and pay $100 per month to use a mongering app, to meet a female for a paid platonic relationship?

Are you off your meds?[/QUOTE]I don't have much luck in Facebook dating and I am not particularly handsome, LOL.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2519645]Here's a picture of the front door signs at Energy Living just put up a short time ago[/QUOTE]Is that permanently or only for the weekend?

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2519670]Are you going to resort to the short time hotel / motel scene or is that available right now?[/QUOTE]I don't think the short term hotels will be running during this lockdown.

I think the best move will be to find a chica you know, get her to your place before Friday at 7 pm and then have her stay until Tuesday.

4 night. Offer 1.5 million kCop. Probably lots of girls would take that deal: have a nicer place to stay and someone to quarantine with and leave with some real money for them. If you have some established connections already in place-to me, that's the move here.

Not something I would normally do. But if you can get a 'Pinky' quality babe for a few nights to ride it out, could be fun--more fun than solo for 4 nights.

[QUOTE=Forever18;2519683]I don't have much luck in Facebook dating and I am not particularly handsome, LOL.[/QUOTE]You don't need to be handsome. Most of the guys on this board are not particularly handsome. You just need money. Of which you obviously have.

Short term hotels were operating during the four month lockdown. I'm curious why you you don't think they would be during the long weekend lockdown. Have you been to Medellin recently?

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2519763]I don't think the short term hotels will be running during this lockdown.

I think the best move will be to find a chica you know, get her to your place before Friday at 7 pm and then have her stay until Tuesday.

4 night. Offer 1.5 million kCop. Probably lots of girls would take that deal: have a nicer place to stay and someone to quarantine with and leave with some real money for them. If you have some established connections already in place-to me, that's the move here.

Not something I would normally do. But if you can get a 'Pinky' quality babe for a few nights to ride it out, could be fun--more fun than solo for 4 nights.[/QUOTE]

The sign says it is for the long weekend lockdown. It lists dates.

[QUOTE=Yetiecv;2519729]Is that permanently or only for the weekend?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kazeu;2519783]You don't need to be handsome. Most of the guys on this board are not particularly handsome. You just need money. Of which you obviously have.[/QUOTE]I decided I would try the FB girls thing so I created a profile and followed some instructions a member posted a while ago, but I am still lost.

Do I just add random girls who look hot and have slutty photos and then preposition them? LOL.

Is there a page or person I should find that has girls that are known to be workers?

Also, does anyone here trade numbers of girls through PM?

New, but not improved, management. The 10 K room fee was not charged before. There were Colombians amongst the staff before. The overwhelming high volume music pumped through the place 1970's Plato's Retreat style is not new.

[QUOTE=Moso2;2519658]I visited Eros two more times because the women or middle people on Mileroticos and Photoprepagos have not been responsive on messaging platforms.

It seems like all of the women are Venezuelan and are not very excited to be there. If you want the larger room that has a bathroom in the room and warm water, you will most likely need to pay 10 k or 20 k more. One reason I go here is that I am guaranteed to get service and oral al natural is on the menu for 30 k. The first time I went there I was lucky and was in the larger room without having to pay. The second visit was not very good. The last visit I tried to gauge who would at least make an attempt at giving me reasonable oral al natural. I was more attracted to a taller lighter skin Venezuelan, but it seemed like another one would give me better service. She waited and talked a long time as I could tell she does not enjoy her job, but I laid down and she finally started. She wanted to stop many times, but towards the end she was giving me better service. She had lubricant unlike the previous lady, but I did not really enjoy doing the deed and enjoy the oral al natural much more. So, I need to find a provider who gives good oral al natural and if I am a good boy termine en la bocita.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2519849]I decided I would try the FB girls thing so I created a profile and followed some instructions a member posted a while ago, but I am still lost.

Do I just add random girls who look hot and have slutty photos and then preposition them? LOL.

Is there a page or person I should find that has girls that are known to be workers?

Also, does anyone here trade numbers of girls through PM?[/QUOTE]It goes like this once you find a profile of a monger or a chica that is an obvious prostitute than you start checking their friends list, it is not a short nor uncomplicated task, it is painstaking and needs to be done systematically. I use bookmarkers in my browser to save profiles in order go through the friends list later. Chicas who have the tell tell photo of themselves in their underwear are a dead give away, chicas that have a lot of bikini photos are strongly suspected chicas who have photos stamped with the Devil emoji (means horny) are also strongly suspected. Check your PM.

First time in Colombia but not SA but that was only work. Spanish, words and phrases, tried my best to improve it before the trip but I was just too busy, I even hired an itaki teacher.

Normal hunting ground SE Asia, Thailand where I speak the lingo so I am very much in my comfort zone there, I would say I'm addicted to Thailand. However Colombia was on my bucket list.

My preference without a doubt, SW's.

My body clock is all messed up so 8 am get everything for the lockdown. I have mental notes of all the places and things I want to do. First up New Life, I take a Didi. World Traveller Map is essential. When I get to the street I'm confused even though I looked at the map and street view a few times and I realised I did not have the street numbers to hand and I didn't feel comfortable looking lost fiddling around on my phone. I pace around a bit and there is a stairway that looks like it leads to a knocking shop, I go in and there is a sign that says Zandlay, I remember reading about this and I know for sure I'm not in new life.

My awful Spanish just about gets me by. All of sudden there is chicas coming from everywhere, wow some real stunners, they shake my hand and say their name, when I think I can remember a few names then more come and more.

At this stage I'm at a loss. I remember about 3 names but I've no idea which is which. I tell her Stephanie, it's the one with the fake tits but wicked body. I'm not into fake tits but needs must. Paid 50 K for 30 min, OK session, nothing to write home about she was a bit don't do this and that type but did have a nice smiley personality. Next time I'll know what to expect and won't be caught off guard. A friendly place though.

Next, what I have been looking forward to the most Centro. I walk and use my phone, it sends me round in circles for ages. I think I'm at the Veracruz but I'm not. Finally I make it, my mind is blown, finally at ground zero. So many women hustling everywhere, some real lookers and some definitely underage. Saw so many YouTube videos, never thought I'd finally make it.

I need a beer and to take it all in. First I go to the pharmacy and get some pills that were recommended on here. Then I'm at Corneto grill show for my beer. Honestly it was a bit boring. Next Barrra Ejectuva, I pass an interesting looking strip club a few doors up from Cornetto, mental note made. Barra E is closed, damn back to the other place Avenida Grill Show. This is very different to Cornetto, porn on the screen, better talent and the whole vibe and layout is more fun.

Now I'm ready to break my Centro cherry on the first day. I'm excited. As I'm about to begin my lap I spot someone that's immediately obvious, blackmans little fun size package with the dreads. I made mental notes about this girl after his report. I loiter for a bit then make my move, she's so cute close up and smiley. I can hear Slap Diddy and Surfer voices in my head, this is Centro take charge and don't be a chump but I'm totally new to this.

She wants to go with me, because of this board I don't ask how I much, I say let's go 30,000 plus tip to Premier plaza. She's happy but says she cannot do PL because no Cedula, damn a girl without a Cedula could be a disaster, I take a chance because blackman already went there.

We go to a room for 6000, oh my the body, so small and cute. She's fun. As I'm smashing her she's licking her lips, creaming and stroking her snatch like a demon. She's full on tounging me as well. After, I take a picture while she's in the shower. Total damage 40 k, unbelievable. That's why I like SW's, I have tried all pricing tiers and for me my most memorable sessions are with SW's. This was the best session of the day.

Using Translator I ask her about quarantine and staying with me, she's up for it but wants 1 million, I counter 500,000, she agrees happily. Worth it I think for this little packet of fun around for 3 nights. What's app number taken.

Waiting for my taxi back I spot another girl, she approaches. Nice vibe, I take her number. In the taxi I realise there is a digit missing from fun size, damn. I start to negotiate with the other, she wants $500, yes dollars, is she off her meds? She goes down to 1 million, no I have not sessioned with her and its too risky.

It's 5. 30, nearly 1. 5 hour from quarantine and I am out of luck, it was a big ask, getting a random girl for curfew on my first day, but I tried. As I'm out of luck for quarantine I think I might be able to get one more session in, my apartment is near eros. Let's go.

I go up the stairs, same set up, sit down. Then again bam, chicas are coming from all directions out of nowhere. They just keep piling in the room. This place was easier to choose as they all stand in the room at the same time. She says something to me in Spanish, I'm lost. Now all eyes are on me. What do I do, the line up is interesting but not as good as Zandaly. I want something thick, I make eye contact and ask her name in Spanish, turn to the leader and say ok, that seals the deal 70 k ok session, she tried but I'm still thinking about fun size. It's 6. 30, time to run.

What a day, so many options. Chicas off all types everywhere. People are friendly I love it. Can't wait to get back to centro to finish off my centro training, maybe one day I'll find new life.

I am impressed. You Sir will surely be a Centro rat. In one day you experienced what others have not managed in multiple month visits. I can't wait to read your next reports.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2519939]First time in Colombia but not SA but that was only work. Spanish, words and phrases, tried my best to improve it before the trip but I was just too busy, I even hired an itaki teacher.

Normal hunting ground SE Asia, Thailand where I speak the lingo so I am very much in my comfort zone there, I would say I'm addicted to Thailand. However Colombia was on my bucket list.

My preference without a doubt, SW's.

My body clock is all messed up so 8 am get everything for the lockdown. I have mental notes of all the places and things I want to do. First up New Life, I take a Didi. World Traveller Map is essential. When I get to the street I'm confused even though I looked at the map and street view a few times and I realised I did not have the street numbers to hand and I didn't feel comfortable looking lost fiddling around on my phone. I pace around a bit and there is a stairway that looks like it leads to a knocking shop, I go in and there is a sign that says Zandlay, I remember reading about this and I know for sure I'm not in new life.

My awful Spanish just about gets me by. All of sudden there is chicas coming from everywhere, wow some real stunners, they shake my hand and say their name, when I think I can remember a few names then more come and more..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2519838]The sign says it is for the long weekend lockdown. It lists dates.[/QUOTE]You are right Knowledge but Colombia hit a new high with Covid cases. Until that number comes down, the lockdowns will likely persist.

Yesterday, I was messaging a few SA girls. One seemed a bit cooler than the others, and not as shady with all the filters and emojis on her photos. Turns out, she also lives closest to me. We had been talking for almost a week, maybe, and I think she reached out to ask if I was in town. She asked for 300.000 and I said I usually pay 200.000. We were negotiating at 8p with a 10p curfew in place, so there wasn't much time to jerk around. She said 250.000. I said 200.000 + DiDi (6k each way). Deal. 15 mins and she's ready for a ride. She shows up and is talkative, positive energy, and huge tits. She had braided pig tails and was ready to rock. We started making out in the living room, groping, handful of ass with her dress up. Off to the guest bedroom where she gave a good BBBJ. She was getting into the manual stimulation I was providing, and we moved to missionary. Then, cowgirl, and transitioned to squatting cowgirl where I do the work. She was enjoying it but also saying suave. She made some comment about my big dick and her tiny pussy being a difficult combination. I thought it was funny, after just removing 3 fingers from her oven. Then doggy, then whatever the fuck it's called when she's laying flat and I'm on top from behind. That was the finishing move, and then she showered up, and asked for round two. It was like 9:40p, and I had no interest to force it. I just wanted to make food and go to bed. She messaged today asking how I was, and I'd imagine our paths will cross, again.

I was chatting with an SA smoke show, and she said 300.000 with condom, 1 hour. I asked her how much for the quarantine. I tried to lure her with the, "I have food, drinks, and a jacuzzi. " Face palm, she said she has a jacuzzi at her dad's house in Bello (and sople). I throw out 1.000.000 until Tuesday. She laughs. Usually, when a chick laughs, I'm done. However, 1) this chick is hot in the photos, and 2) I want to find out a price before saying no. She says 800.000 per day. Now, she could be thinking 5 days, she could be thinking 4 nights, who knows. I ask if we are supposed to be like rabbits, fucking all day every day, for that price. She says it's 2 x per day, and that the number is for her time. I said that's expensive time in quarantine. I was going to offer 1. 800.000 but I honestly want to watch football and drink beer all weekend. I didn't want to have some stranger here and have to kick her out or ask her to leave, or have her make it uncomfortable because she's bored, etc. Now, I feel I had some pretty good luck to go 2-for-3 in 2020 on live-ins. I didn't want to push my luck.

Seems like a lot of girls are using the 300.000 number. No fucking way I'd pay that for 1 HR with condom.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2519939]First time in Colombia but not SA but that was only work. Spanish, words and phrases, tried my best to improve it before the trip but I was just too busy, I even hired an itaki teacher.

Normal hunting ground SE Asia, Thailand where I speak the lingo so I am very much in my comfort zone there, I would say I'm addicted to Thailand. However Colombia was on my bucket list.

My preference without a doubt, SW's.

What a day, so many options. Chicas off all types everywhere. People are friendly I love it. Can't wait to get back to centro to finish off my centro training, maybe one day I'll find new life.[/QUOTE]You sound like a Beach Road / Nana Plaza guy, and if so, you won't be disappointed with Centro, your on hallowed ground contrary to what others might think.

Come Tuesday morning when you get out of lockdown, head back to ground zero and the place will be inundated with Chicas by noon.

Your going to have a field day there, and you've already earned whiskers after your first pop in El Centro.

Quick question: Are proof of negative COVID19 test results required to enter Colombia again?

Is a lockdown scheduled for next weekend?

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;2520006]Quick question: Are proof of negative COVID19 test results required to enter Colombia again?

Is a lockdown scheduled for next weekend?[/QUOTE]I just landed a few hours ago. Yes they will ask you for PCR test. My friend didn't have one and now he can't leave his apartment until he takes one and gets back the results. Not that it matters much with the lock down right now but it will matter big time if he hasn't gotten his results by Tuesday.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2520011]I just landed a few hours ago. Yes they will ask you for PCR test. My friend didn't have one and now he can't leave his apartment until he takes one and gets back the results. Not that it matters much with the lock down right now but it will matter big time if he hasn't gotten his results by Tuesday.[/QUOTE]CentroLab Cra. 43 DD #8-56 220.000 cop results in 24-48 hrs, hope this helps if test is needed, it's place mansion recommended! Stay safe!

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2520011]I just landed a few hours ago. Yes they will ask you for PCR test. My friend didn't have one and now he can't leave his apartment until he takes one and gets back the results. Not that it matters much with the lock down right now but it will matter big time if he hasn't gotten his results by Tuesday.[/QUOTE]How do they keep track? I plan on getting tested anyway but how would they know you haven't left your apartment?? I know in Korea they put a tracking device on you.

"MarquisdeSade1 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space. ".

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2520020]How do they keep track? I plan on getting tested anyway but how would they know you haven't left your apartment?? I know in Korea they put a tracking device on you.[/QUOTE]They take all your information on where you are staying and how long you are staying. If they come looking for you and you are not where you told them you will be, there will be problems for you.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2520075]They take all your information on where you are staying and how long you are staying. If they come looking for you and you are not where you told them you will be, there will be problems for you.[/QUOTE]What if you're out taking your test?

If you still want her number PM me.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2519939]

Now I'm ready to break my Centro cherry on the first day. I'm excited. As I'm about to begin my lap I spot someone that's immediately obvious, blackmans little fun size package with the dreads. I made mental notes about this girl after his report. I loiter for a bit then make my move, she's so cute close up and smiley. I can hear Slap Diddy and Surfer voices in my head, this is Centro take charge and don't be a chump but I'm totally new to this.

She wants to go with me, because of this board I don't ask how I much, I say let's go 30,000 plus tip to Premier plaza. She's happy but says she cannot do PL because no Cedula, damn a girl without a Cedula could be a disaster, I take a chance because blackman already went there.

We go to a room for 6000, oh my the body, so small and cute. She's fun. As I'm smashing her she's licking her lips, creaming and stroking her snatch like a demon. She's full on tounging me as well. After, I take a picture while she's in the shower. Total damage 40 k, unbelievable. That's why I like SW's, I have tried all pricing tiers and for me my most memorable sessions are with SW's. This was the best session of the day.

Using Translator I ask her about quarantine and staying with me, she's up for it but wants 1 million, I counter 500,000, she agrees happily. Worth it I think for this little packet of fun around for 3 nights. What's app number taken.

Waiting for my taxi back I spot another girl, she approaches. Nice vibe, I take her number. In the taxi I realise there is a digit missing from fun size, damn.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2519981]Seems like a lot of girls are using the 300.000 number. No fucking way I'd pay that for 1 HR with condom.[/QUOTE]WTF 300 mil! I give 100 to 150 for 24 hours plus transportation and I am very selective and have about a dozen of 18 to 24 yo cuties in my stable on rotation. This is what you get for living here in Medellin and putting in the time and finding the real gems.

Just one example is this 19 yo paisa, yes she is a barrio brat but so sweet and although I don't show her face she looks like the twin sister of Megan Fox, no shit. She is tall at 178 cm and all natural which I adore. Again just one out of 20 or more cuties, and yes when she comes over and stays with me for a day up to a week I give her between 100 to 300 mil.

At times I feel like the Afroman in Crazy Rap song:

Well it was just sundown in small white town.

They call it East Side Palmdale.

When the Afroman walked through the white land.

Houses went up for sale.

Well I was standing on the corner selling' rap CDS.

When I met a little girl named Jan.

I let her ride in my Caddy.

'Cause I didn't know her daddy was the leader of the Ku Klux Klan.

We fucked on the bed.

Fucked on the floor.

Fucked so long I grew a fuckin' afro.

Then I fucked to the left (Left).

Fucked to the right (Right).

She sucked my dick 'til the shit turned white.

I thought to myself sheeba-sheeba.

Got my ass lookin' like a zebra.

I put on my clothes and I was on my way.

Until her daddy pulled up in a Chevrolet.

And so I ran I jumped out the back window.

But her daddy he was waitin' with a two-by-four.

Oh, he beat me to the left.

He beat me to the right.

The motherfucker whooped my ass all night.

But I ain't mad at her prejudiced dad.

That's the best damn pussy I ever had.

Got a bag of weed and a bottle of wine.

I'm going to fuck that * just one more time.

The problem is that there are so many others in the rotation that she calls me yesterday concerned that I have not called her or seen her in about 3 weeks, pleading with me not to forget her.

Are we not lucky guys here in Medoland!

Much love and respect to all!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2519958]I am impressed. You Sir will surely be a Centro rat. In one day you experienced what others have not managed in multiple month visits. I can't wait to read your next reports.[/QUOTE]I've already given him his whiskers, anyone that shows up for the first time, not speaking Spanish, grabs a Chica without a Cedula, and without hesitation does the deed in a 6 K Love Motel on his first outing in El Centro is a veteran of the street.

Most of the other posters visiting Centro during the Pandemic either 1) haven't found a girl they could do, even after 8 visits, and hopefully this poster will eventually pull the plug so he can say " I've been there and done that" and I don't say this in a derogatory way towards this poster, 2) are freaked out about ID's which a lot of the girls in Centro don't have, which does not mean they are underage, 3) concerned about the Love Motels to use, wanting to read several reviews of the establishment before using, 4) can't handle the filth and "circus atmosphere" of Centro, and 5) are concerned about getting mugged and robbed, and rightly so, as this is a clear and present danger for everyone.

When the lockdown is over on Tuesday, and Johnny returns to Centro and see's what's available, his problem is going to be having enough leche to go around, as his saddlebags will be getting unloaded in a hurry.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2520075]They take all your information on where you are staying and how long you are staying. If they come looking for you and you are not where you told them you will be, there will be problems for you.[/QUOTE]In this country nothing 100 usd can't fix is basically what you're saying??

I'm lucky enough to have established girl contacts that I've known over the years. Some are former FB / SA / MP girls that now have regular jobs, but still hustle on the side. Since we are in lockdown, the girls are all staying in so I had options to find one to stay with me for the 4 days. I decided on one I've known for a few years and also have gone to other countries with her before. Those out of country trips I pay for all expenses, and I get wild bb sex / unlimited fun in return. She wanted a newer phone, so I offered her my older and unlocked iPhone 10 and she'll give me her iPhone 7 to stay with me for the lockdown and beyond if needed, and I'll give her some spending money (150 k) on top. She agreed with no hesitation. She lives in Copacabana and took bus then metro to my apt in San Javier and got here last night right when everything was shutting down and becoming a ghost town.

Lucky me, stars are aligning, one of her Venezuelan friends lives nearby my apt (1 block away). The friend is also down for fun as well. I have 5 bottles of whisky / rum, beer, plenty of food for 4 days, lots of party favors including tussi, and there's always domicilio in case I need anything else. I maybe be locked down, but not locked out. For those who are here now, stay safe and best of luck in finding girls during the lockdown.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2519763]I don't think the short term hotels will be running during this lockdown.

I think the best move will be to find a chica you know, get her to your place before Friday at 7 pm and then have her stay until Tuesday.

4 night. Offer 1.5 million kCop. Probably lots of girls would take that deal: have a nicer place to stay and someone to quarantine with and leave with some real money for them. If you have some established connections already in place-to me, that's the move here.

Not something I would normally do. But if you can get a 'Pinky' quality babe for a few nights to ride it out, could be fun--more fun than solo for 4 nights.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2519981]

I was chatting with an SA smoke show, and she said 300.000 with condom, 1 hour. I asked her how much for the quarantine. I tried to lure her with the, "I have food, drinks, and a jacuzzi. " Face palm, she said she has a jacuzzi at her dad's house in Bello (and sople). I throw out 1.000.000 until Tuesday. She laughs. Usually, when a chick laughs, I'm done. However, 1) this chick is hot in the photos, and 2) I want to find out a price before saying no. She says 800.000 per day. Now, she could be thinking 5 days, she could be thinking 4 nights, who knows. I ask if we are supposed to be like rabbits, fucking all day every day, for that price. She says it's 2 x per day, and that the number is for her time. I said that's expensive time in quarantine. I was going to offer 1. 800.000 but I honestly want to watch football and drink beer all weekend. I didn't want to have some stranger here and have to kick her out or ask her to leave, or have her make it uncomfortable because she's bored, etc. Now, I feel I had some pretty good luck to go 2-for-3 in 2020 on live-ins. I didn't want to push my luck.

Seems like a lot of girls are using the 300.000 number. No fucking way I'd pay that for 1 HR with condom.[/QUOTE]Basically, 300 k is La Isla price for 30-40 minutes, on site. The girl on the photo is definitely hot, 9-10/10. So the deal is even better, considering she comes over to your place. I would try to negotiate 2-3 hrs or 2 leches for that price. Can you fuck a 9, delivered to your house in the US for less than $100? I bet you can't. Most of the girls pics posted on this forum are average 6's, ,maybe 7's. I haven't seen any HOT ones here. Obviously they do not cost 300 k / HR. What pisses me off sometimes is when average looking girls, sometimes 30+ years old with kids, throw crazy numbers looking for a sucker to pay. But when a top tier girl asks premium, it is totally understandable, the question is. Can you afford her or not.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2520179] Can you fuck a 9, delivered to your house in the US for less than $100? I bet you can't. . Can you afford her or not.[/QUOTE]The prices in USA are irrelevant, as is the fact that yes I can fuck very hot putas in USA pre China virus for $100.

Whether someone can afford 300 k is also irrelevant, do you pay $100 for Big Macs, just because you can? I sure hope not.

Loutron.

4 p. This place is up in the ritzy alto hills of Poblado, much higher up than where Tesoro mall is located. Long driveway up to the home itself which is a huge early 90's-era narco mansion. If only these walls could speak of the bacchanal's have gone on here. Very nice madam greeted us and offered us several areas to sit. We chose the terrace and ordered some drinks while waiting to see the talent.

Not sure how it is normally but perhaps given the time of day and this being a week where many are away on holiday, we were presented with only six girls. Each one came dressed in very nice lingerie one by one to greet us. A few had very nice bodies, if you are an ass man, find yourself here bc 3-4 knocked the donkey's out of the park.

Did not session but was told that it is 320 k COP for one hour. A beer and a gaseosa cost 38 k.

San Diego Show Night Club.

9 p. A shell of what it used to be. Over a decade of coming here and always found some stunners. It is now 2/3's smaller as they said they gave space back due to the pandemic. Despite the 10 p curfew they said they are open until 3 a. No patrons. About 10 girls. 10 k COP entrance. They wanted me to drink four beers minimum. I left.

Fase II.

10 p. 15 girls. 10 k COP entrance. 20 k COP for a beer. Good music. Less than 10 patrons. Got differing answers on when they close during the curfew, 1 a or 2 a. Pretty decent talent. Got three numbers and called it a night. Two beers cost me 50 k COP.

The three numbers are coming in handy right now during the lockdown.

You can def pay off the police here as I've done before. You just have to know what is the local payoff amount depending on the situation, but as a gringo you'll def going to pay a higher premium than an average local paying off the police.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2520134]In this country nothing 100 usd can't fix is basically what you're saying??[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2519836]Short term hotels were operating during the four month lockdown. I'm curious why you you don't think they would be during the long weekend lockdown. Have you been to Medellin recently?[/QUOTE]Purely my own imagination / assumption based on what I have read here and in some facebook groups. I hope to be vaccinated by March and back there in April?

When Colombia opened back up, I decided hop to Medellin before things changed. I booked my stay in centro for Nov. / Dec. I wanted to be as close as I could to the Casas. I figured it would be easier to schedule long visits from the best casa girls if I lived close by and a trip to a casa would only cost me 2 minutes to run to. I decided to take a page out of the posts here and buy a ton of makeup kits. My theory was girls would love them as it gives them an edge over the other girls at the casas, I'd like how they look more, I'd get even better service and the girls would be more apt for longer stays at my apartment. It worked out really well. I'd turn high performing 7's and 8's into 8's and 9's with slightly better service. I didn't get any freebies like no condom / swallow or anal but I'd get deeper / more sloppy blowjobs or the girls would take more time.

When I touched down in Medellin, I hit every casa and one of the street girl areas that was recommended here.

All the casas except for two had slim pickings with one or two cute girls with bad performance. I expected more / better girls at all the casas due to possible harder times with covid but I didn't take into account girls who left back to their home country.

The street girl I went with refused to take off all her clothing and tried to upsell me. I refused and was about to leave but she changed her mind when I was reaching for my pants. She had slightly saggy fake tits, her breath smelled a little and she pissed me off. I still fucked her since all the casas were closed at around midnight but never did a street girl again.

The two good casas were New Life and Dulce Compania.

Dulce Compania. I noticed they weren't getting many customers when I was there. The girls looked very desperate and there was a cute 6 with A cups, a not cute but nice body 6 and a 7 with be cups. They all had good performance but New life was much better. After my 4th trip there I was about done but asked the madam how much a threesome would cost. She said 75 mil. One girl is 50 mil there and at newlife it's 55 mil. I must have read too many of blakman's posts because that 25 mil discount sounded like a deal I couldn't pass up. I probably did a threesome with Isabell and Samantha two or three times a day for a full week. I trained them well (told them to kiss and lick more. Have more eye contact, etc). I also gave them makeup kits and they used them well. They went from a 6 and a 7 to a 7 and a 7.5. After about a week, I got tired of them and went to New life. I mean if I wanted to fuck the same two girls the rest of my life, I'd just go to Utah and marry two girls.

I bought the makeup kids in the US. They were all on sale for around 10 usd but retail for like 100+ usd. I checked in a large suitcase with tons of them and just gave them away to casa girls.

New Life. My old favorite was the madam now. She's very nice to look at while I waited for the other girls. She speaks English and last time I was there, I liked getting her because she speaks English and tells the other girls to lick / kiss me while I'm balls deep in her. It was pretty hot. The first weeks, I tried out like half the girls. I had a few favorites and by my 2nd to last week there I was pairing girls up and making some good combos. Venessa paired well with others. Some girls she would touch and lick, some girls she wouldn't. A lot of girls got shy and wouldn't kiss me on the lips or do other stuff with there was more than one girl. On the last week, I was just getting as many girls as I could at once. I think I maxed out at 4 girls at once. One girl with my head in her lap stroking my hair, two girls on both sides of me kissing my neck and pressing their boobs on me and one girl either riding or sucking me off. The bed barely fits 4 girls but 5 would have been nice. One girl would always be awkwardly trying to get in or trading with another girl. Fun stuff. I only last 30 minutes and each girl costs 55 k, then I tip around 5 k at the end if it's good service. I gave two or three kits away here. Upgraded some girls by a full point. Your welcome guys!

I was in Medellin on January 1st. It was one of my last days there and wanted to make it count. I never tried to get a girl to stay with me. I just forgot about it till January 1st when everything was on curfew. I offered one of my fav girls in new life 1,000 mil to stay with me during curfew. No condom and let me do whatever I wanted to her. She actually said no and tried to schedule something a day or two before. Apparently family is very important there and it is a day for families? I should have tried the other girls I wanted to fuck non stop during curfew. I think maybe I just had too much sex? 2-4 times a day for like two months? Prob averaged around 3 point something.

The casas close early now.

Dulce Compania. Closed on Sundays, 10 to 6 pm on all other days it seems like.

New Life - 10 to 6 pm every day except Sundays, I think it is 10 to 5 pm on Sunday.

Lessons learned. Although I had a lot of fun there, I think I'd have a lot more fun if I did it more like blakman and slapshot. The apartment I got was super loud both during the day and at night. It was hard to sleep. The casas were awesome but all the girls were 9 or below at best. I went to gustos just to check out the park area one day and saw a few 10's from a distance. I would have had A lot more fun if I got a quiet place and used seeking / facebook / went to gustos and got numbers. Then get the whole 2-3 day per girl with no condom and all the extras. Maybe get a couple girls at once. There isn't too much of a difference between 2 and 4 girls but there is a TON of difference between an escort coming to your house to fuck and swallow without a condom than going to a casa where it's 50/50 to get girls to kiss on the lips or get a decent deep throat out of her. Also get a free maid to clean up and cook for me would be awesome. Most of my fat melted away when I was over there too so I could get the same deals as blakman / slapshot if looks had anything to do with it.

I went around asking every black man at a casa if they were "blakman" from the forum. 90% would say, yeah I'm black, are you black man? . Wasted so much time explaining I wasn't racist and it was a name on this forum. Also for the first time in my life, I was happy I look at half black (from an angle if the light hits me just right).

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2520179]What pisses me off sometimes is when average looking girls, sometimes 30+ years old with kids, throw crazy numbers looking for a sucker to pay. But when a top tier girl asks premium, it is totally understandable, the question is. Can you afford her or not.[/QUOTE]The problem with what you are saying is that so many girls think that they can get by just on looks alone and all they basically have to do is demand a high fee, show up to the party and bring nothing else to the table. This becomes more apparent if she has 1000's of social media followers drooling over her telling her how hot she is.

That's the reason why I personally never talk about numbers like 7, 8's and 9's as well as beauty being totally down to individual taste. It baffles me when I see posts like "how much does it cost to fuck a 9 in Medellin". Yes we all like to fuck smoking hot girls, who doesn't but I also don't want to feel like I'm fucking a dead fish. If I happen to come across a 9 and I get good vibes off her fantastic, it's game on, the same with a 6 or 7, but I'm not seeking out 7 8's and 9's just for the sake of fucking a smoking hot girl and getting no real satisfaction.

It's a difficult balance but my main point being, while I'm spending time seeking out a 9 with a good attitude I could probably have passed by four 6's or 7's that would have blown my mind in bed.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2520179]Basically, 300 k is La Isla price for 30-40 minutes, on site. The girl on the photo is definitely hot, 9-10/10. So the deal is even better, considering she comes over to your place. I would try to negotiate 2-3 hrs or 2 leches for that price. Can you fuck a 9, delivered to your house in the US for less than $100? I bet you can't. Most of the girls pics posted on this forum are average 6's, ,maybe 7's. I haven't seen any HOT ones here. Obviously they do not cost 300 k / HR. What pisses me off sometimes is when average looking girls, sometimes 30+ years old with kids, throw crazy numbers looking for a sucker to pay. But when a top tier girl asks premium, it is totally understandable, the question is. Can you afford her or not.[/QUOTE]I agree. I'll try to keep her on the line and work something out. As she eluded to, I didn't feel like paying for "her time" for 4 days, without knowing anything about her. Some smoking hot chick that lives in Bello, has a jacuzzi, and talks about tusi in the first conversation. That's got a potential to blow up in your face. I'm not up against the clock, so I don't feel rushed.

Surfer, I think maybe I should just take the safe route and look for the spinner with blue hair.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2520179]Basically, 300 k is La Isla price for 30-40 minutes, on site. The girl on the photo is definitely hot, 9-10/10. So the deal is even better, considering she comes over to your place. I would try to negotiate 2-3 hrs or 2 leches for that price. Can you fuck a 9, delivered to your house in the US for less than $100? I bet you can't.[/QUOTE]1. You can in Brazil. The price of stuff where you are has nothing to do with the price of things where you are not.

2. La Isla has to get their cut. So the girl there is not receiving 300K. You can not compare the price of a FL with the price of a chick at an establishment without taking into account the part that goes to the establishment. Then you start comparing apples to apples.

[QUOTE=Yetiecv;2520088]What if you're out taking your test?[/QUOTE]That excuse won't work as they have several clinics that come test you at your place. So I don't think it will end well. I suggest get your test before coming and not deal this that problem.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2520179]Basically, 300 k is La Isla price for 30-40 minutes, on site. The girl on the photo is definitely hot, 9-10/10. So the deal is even better, considering she comes over to your place. I would try to negotiate 2-3 hrs or 2 leches for that price. Can you fuck a 9, delivered to your house in the US for less than $100? I bet you can't. Most of the girls pics posted on this forum are average 6's, ,maybe 7's. I haven't seen any HOT ones here. Obviously they do not cost 300 k / HR. What pisses me off sometimes is when average looking girls, sometimes 30+ years old with kids, throw crazy numbers looking for a sucker to pay. But when a top tier girl asks premium, it is totally understandable, the question is. Can you afford her or not.[/QUOTE]The older girls have just smartened up. They realize there are so many guys paying big money.

This is why the younger hotter girls can be had for 200 mil only because they don't know yet. Once they are exposed to the guys with big $$ they will never be 200 mil again.

Perfect example is Leidy Baron. A couple years ago she was hot. And could be had for 250.

So after a couple gringos fall in love with her and silently outbid each other for her effection and all these gifts and trips later, she thinks she's worth 400 mil an hour and up. LOL.

It's not they think they are worth it, they just have more life experience and realize they can make so much more.

Places like Gustos and La Islas is perfect for these older girls. They are experienced enough to know when to strike.

Once the guy is piss drunk and coked out that same 5 looks like a 10. And that guy will pay her the price of a 10.

Girls learn from experience as well.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2520230]1. You can in Brazil. The price of stuff where you are has nothing to do with the price of things where you are not.

2. La Isla has to get their cut. So the girl there is not receiving 300K. You can not compare the price of a FL with the price of a chick at an establishment without taking into account the part that goes to the establishment. Then you start comparing apples to apples.[/QUOTE]Thank you for pointing out what should be pointed out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2520230]1. You can in Brazil. The price of stuff where you are has nothing to do with the price of things where you are not.

2. La Isla has to get their cut. So the girl there is not receiving 300K. You can not compare the price of a FL with the price of a chick at an establishment without taking into account the part that goes to the establishment. Then you start comparing apples to apples.[/QUOTE]My comparison is still fair. You don't pay La Isla girl 300 k for a full hour, probably 30 minutes or so.

Also you save on taxi, cover fee and overpriced drinks at the establishment. You don't pay a takeout fee. And you fuck her in the comfort of your apartment. She might even stay longer if she enjoys her time with you and no security would interrupt you because your time is up.

I don't care if you can in Brazil. Most of us live in the US, and if I buy the same product 3-4 times cheaper elsewhere, I see it as a great value.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2520225]I agree. I'll try to keep her on the line and work something out. As she eluded to, I didn't feel like paying for "her time" for 4 days, without knowing anything about her. Some smoking hot chick that lives in Bello, has a jacuzzi, and talks about tusi in the first conversation. That's got a potential to blow up in your face. I'm not up against the clock, so I don't feel rushed.

Surfer, I think maybe I should just take the safe route and look for the spinner with blue hair.[/QUOTE]Slap I haven't tried to entice putas with extras like booze or hot tub, or bad ass suite for many many years.

All that does is drives the price higher or make her more stubborn, she now knows you arent broke, but in her mind.

You are just being stubborn as to giving her inflated asking price, just because she says she has a hot tub at papas doesn't mean she does.

That's probably just her way of saying I don't care, she just wants her inflated price (maybe so she can rent a room for her and her novio with a hot tub LOL).

If anything I might think some predator putas may interpret enticements of hot tub champagne etc as a desperation move.

Someone trying to impress them or kiss their ass.

I try not to treat a 10 any differently then a 7, we aren't marrying them, its just 1 or 2 pops and adios.

A pop isn't worth that much to me, we all can jerk off to amazing porn for free.

I kinda compare putas to a haircut, Ill only pay so much for a haircut, I used to pay $100 for a haircut in the late 80's LOL.

I wouldn't pay $20 today, I try to think of putas as lunch, how much is a typical lunch worth?

I wouldn't pay $500 for a haircut or lunch so overpriced 3rd world putas are also out of the question (not incidentally developed world overpriced putas are also out of the question).

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2520261] if I buy the same product 3-4 times cheaper elsewhere, I see it as a great value.[/QUOTE]An economic theory, Law of One Price, supports the notion.

Everybody I have talked to has had no issues with the Covid vaccine. The worst I heard was a few hours of arm soreness. I am going to get my vaccine Monday thank God.

I have read the vaccine is 95% effective but I did not know what that meant. Here is the actual data: What Pfizer did was to select about 43,000 voluntary participants where about half received the vaccine and the other half (the control group) received only a placebo, without any active substance. After about a month after the first dose (I. E. One week after the second dose), they started to count the number of confirmed COVID-19 cases for each group: in the placebo group 162 cases were confirmed, whereas in the vaccine group only 8 cases appeared.

As somebody pointed out, if you get the vaccine and mount an antibody response, it would also likely mean that if you do get Covid 4 to 6+ weeks after getting the vaccine, it likely will not be as severe.

Of the two vaccines, you have to get a booster three weeks after getting the Pfizer vaccine and four weeks after getting the Moderna one. As for how much immunity you get after one dose, there is this:

Researchers assessed the effectiveness of that two-dose regimen, spaced three or four weeks apart depending on the vaccine, in trials with more than 30,000 subjects. In Moderna's late-stage trials, the first dose provided around 80% to 90% efficacy after 28 days. Two weeks after the booster shot, the efficacy had reached 94.1%, according to study results.

Pfizer said the late-stage trial found its shot was about 52% effective after the first dose, with study results showing protection starting as early as 12 days after receiving it. A week after the second dose, the shot's effectiveness rose to 95%, Pfizer said its study found.

Texas has moved from stage 1 A of those receiving the vaccine to stage 1 B. This is the list of people who can now get the vaccine in Texas who are in the 1 B category:

People 65 years of age and older.

• People 16 years of age and older with at least one chronic medical condition that puts.

Them at increased risk for severe illness from the virus that causes COVID-19, such as.

But not limited to:

• Cancer.

• Chronic kidney disease.

• COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease).

• Heart conditions, such as heart failure, coronary artery disease or cardiomyopathies.

• Solid organ transplantation.

• Obesity and severe obesity (body mass index of 30 kg / m2 or higher).

• Pregnancy.

• Sickle cell disease.

• Type 2 diabetes mellitus.

So I think a lot of people here may now qualify. By the way, there is no cost for the vaccination.

Even though the USA embassy site has said that Covid PCR tests were not required to enter prior to January 11, we have had two people here say that testing is now required prior to entry or you have to quarantine.

I hated that fucking swab up my nose, and there is an oral PCR test that can be ordered, and I just did so. This place got good reviews and the cost was $150. They are backed up with orders, and apparently, it takes 6 to 11 days to get the test, but they are bragging about a 24 hour turn around once you submit the sample: [URL]https://www.mylabbox.com/product/at-home-coronavirus-covid-19-test/[/URL].

Someone made a comment about sneaking out of the quarantine. My Medellin chica came back from Mexico in March and she was forced into quarantine. She was checked on multiple times. We are all adults here, but I really would not fuck around with this. No one is in the mood to show any mercy to Covidiots. Hang in your place if quarantined. Get the test then have your fun.

One thing that has pissed me off about all the scare mongering is there is only so much people can take, and everybody is sick of it, but now is the time to be scared. Cases are at all time highs in the USA and Colombia. One in three tests done in Bogota for Covid now is +. That is fucking crazy high.

I have seen hundreds of people now with Covid. I cannot recall any without symptoms. If you are going to play, and you see a woman with bloodshot eyes, a runny nose, barking cough, or one who does not look right, Stay the fuck away! Of all the bullshit spread, to me, the worst is that people with Covid spread it asymptomatically like that is how it normally happens. Maybe that does happen but everyone I have seen knows exactly from whom or when they got it.

I am jealous of you guys in Colombia now. Hopefully, I can join you fuckers and do my duty to bang as much Colombian strange as possible come February. Y'all be careful out there.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2519971]You are right Knowledge but Colombia hit a new high with Covid cases. Until that number comes down, the lockdowns will likely persist.[/QUOTE]This weekend is a special kind of lockdown with even all alcohol sales prohibited. You cannot even order via rappi. While no one yet knows what further measures the government may take I doubt they will include no alcohol sales and no visitors at Energy except until maybe the next holiday weekend with super spreader potential. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2520224]The problem with what you are saying is that so many girls think that they can get by just on looks alone and all they basically have to do is demand a high fee, show up to the party and bring nothing else to the table. This becomes more apparent if she has 1000's of social media followers drooling over her telling her how hot she is.

That's the reason why I personally never talk about numbers like 7, 8's and 9's as well as beauty being totally down to individual taste. It baffles me when I see posts like "how much does it cost to fuck a 9 in Medellin". Yes we all like to fuck smoking hot girls, who doesn't but I also don't want to feel like I'm fucking a dead fish. If I happen to come across a 9 and I get good vibes off her fantastic, it's game on, the same with a 6 or 7, but I'm not seeking out 7 8's and 9's just for the sake of fucking a smoking hot girl and getting no real satisfaction.

It's a difficult balance but my main point being, while I'm spending time seeking out a 9 with a good attitude I could probably have passed by four 6's or 7's that would have blown my mind in bed.[/QUOTE]"satisfaction trumps fantasy".

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2519849]I decided I would try the FB girls thing so I created a profile and followed some instructions a member posted a while ago, but I am still lost.

Do I just add random girls who look hot and have slutty photos and then preposition them? LOL.

Is there a page or person I should find that has girls that are known to be workers?

Also, does anyone here trade numbers of girls through PM?[/QUOTE]I'm also curious how to do the Facebook search. I have found quite a few twitter handles of working chicas. Its quite easy since Twitter encourages random followers and the algorithm suggests other working chicas from the same city / country after following one, so you keep following a new chica and get new suggestions and keep it going. I haven't met or messaged any yet as I'm only fact finding until my trip to SA later this year but so far it seems promising.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2520296]"satisfaction trumps fantasy".[/QUOTE]I would rather pay full price for a satisfying PSE "7" than get a shitty persona diva "10" for free.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2519894]New, but not improved, management. The 10 K room fee was not charged before. There were Colombians amongst the staff before. The overwhelming high volume music pumped through the place 1970's Plato's Retreat style is not new.[/QUOTE]I found a more enthusiastic BBBJ provider whose description offers completion in Belen from mileroticos. Mirasol in the Las Palmas area of Belen. I arrived without much time left until the toque de queda and took the 70 k for half hour BBBJ and the deed. She was older and lighter skin with fairly good naturals. She had a good attitude and performed pretty well and for longer without asking to transition to the deed. She allowed kissing. It was in an apartment with more than one provider and a cute puppy dog. No line up. This time I brought a small packet of lube that would fit in my back pocket along with pills that I forgot to take. I ended up finishing in mish and then caught a taxi instead of an Uber because I wanted to be in the taxi and on my way before the toque de queda started.

In a previous post I mentioned messing by trying to get BBBJ and a time extension in the Mayorista SW scene. I will probably head over to centro after the lockdown ends. I appreciate the centro strategies from other senior members. I have some previous experience with the SW in Tijuana and the fishbowl foam as well as a semi pro decades ago in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2520114]WTF 300 mil! I give 100 to 150 for 24 hours plus transportation and I am very selective and have about a dozen of 18 to 24 yo cuties in my stable on rotation. This is what you get for living here in Medellin and putting in the time and finding the real gems.

Just one example is this 19 yo paisa, yes she is a barrio brat but so sweet and although I don't show her face she looks like the twin sister of Megan Fox, no shit. She is tall at 178 cm and all natural which I adore. Again just one out of 20 or more cuties, and yes when she comes over and stays with me for a day up to a week I give her between 100 to 300 mil.[/QUOTE]And if you mongers just stay still long enough to actually meet and get to know girls in Medellin and they know you, you will that the prices that the Tall Man and Myself have quoted are very much possible and you will have a rotation of girls at your feet. If you are the weekend millionaire who has no time to invest in this hobby, you will always pay top price and will rarely find the best gems that the city of eternal spring has to offer, Pollo Negro is out!

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2520261]My comparison is still fair. You don't pay La Isla girl 300 k for a full hour, probably 30 minutes or so.

Also you save on taxi, cover fee and overpriced drinks at the establishment. You don't pay a takeout fee. And you fuck her in the comfort of your apartment. She might even stay longer if she enjoys her time with you and no security would interrupt you because your time is up.

I don't care if you can in Brazil. Most of us live in the US, and if I buy the same product 3-4 times cheaper elsewhere, I see it as a great value.[/QUOTE]I can understand your way of thinking, but that can be a slippery slope.

It works like this:

You can get girls in Colombia for $15 that would easily cost you $150 in the US. You can get girls in Colombia for $60 that would cost you $400-$600 in the US. But when you're stuck on thinking how much it would cost you back home it's easy to rationalize paying more. That's what frequently happens at Gusto. Guys come in, see girls that are asking for $500-$2000 back home and all they want is $200? Less than 100 yards away are girls, often looking just as good, who will treat you right for $60.

You can go to Gusto and have the Gusto experience and take home a Gusto girl, and at the end of the night you've had a great time and only spent $400 on drinks and a girl. Compared to the US, it's a great value.

Or you can get a girl elsewhere, go to a different club, have an almost identical experience and at the end of the night you've spent $150.

If you're in Colombia, forget what it costs back home and focus on what it costs in Colombia.

Arrived Medellin late evening. Handed over my hard copy of my Migracion Form Proof. He asked me for COVID test results. Brief scare, he said my COVID form looked liked "anyone could have made it on their computer and had no signature. " Jajajjaja Tru that. I thought it looked great, Adobe Pro. They put me in a room by myself. Flashbacks to Tokyo when I was strip-searched and they picked apart my shit with chopsticks, literally. Then he came back in five minutes with a huge smile and said, "You can go. " he did not have to tell me twice. In hindsight, List Theory, never be first or last, hide in the middle. I was first off the plane (First Class) and first in line in Immigration.

Tried something new, too late for the bus, I prepaid online for a taxi and my driver was there with my name on a sign. Perfect. Roads empty, only took 35 minutes to the front door of my hotel on Avenida 70, the tourist corridor. $34, they never expect a tip but I gave him 20 mil pesos for a good ride. Hotel door locked, tap on glass. Super friendly check in girl.

The streets are deserted. There is a quarantine in place they tell me until Tue. No matter. My Numero Uno chica Catgirl does not know I am here yet. I mix hotels and staying at the girls' place, when it makes sense. Number 2 Maid Service backed out on me at the last second when her Auntie showed up unexpectedly. No one else knew I was coming which is how I do it, I let them know one at a time, keeps down the bickering. Maid Service will be here in the morning. I need the rest.

I am in the heart of the tourist corridor, on a Saturday night, and no one is around. This place is normally wall to wall people. Photos shot from my hotel room. Great room at the front of the building, normally would be very loud (does not bother me), private bath, very clean, strong WiFi signal, $12 per night single occupancy, 18 K pesos extra if I have a girl over ($5) or I can pay the double occupancy rate of $16 per night. I usually stay in El Centro at Hotel Botero but I heard the place was closed, and boarded up, unconfirmed. Maybe I can buy it at a good price, jeje.

Did I mention Life is Good, again? I traveled with a half-full medium sized back pack, mostly containing T-shirts I got for the girls last time I was in NYC. You want to see a chica drop to her knees AND leave a puddle at the same time, give her one of these T's.

I was never touched or searched once. I have shoes and change of clothes at least 3 girls houses so I will start making the Rounds soon, with lots of pussy pics. Weather is here, wish you were perfect, jajajaja.

In case no one told ya, electric here is same. Always bring an extension cord with three sockets on the end, the hotels I have been in here suffer from a lack of wall outlets. Never leaves my bag when home.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2519646]When I came through immigration this afternoon I was asked for my PCR test negative result and luckily I did take the test Monday morning. The agent told me today was the first day a test result was needed with this new ruling. You can still enter without she said but a 14 day quarantine is required or get tested here to be released from quarantine. Just fyi I took the test at a CVS and had my results Wednesday morning so less than 48 hours. American Airlines knew nothing about the test requirement maybe because you are allowed to enter with or without it so they don't need to ship you back[/QUOTE]SOB I never realized they lifted the test requirements for flying in. Guess I'll wait for the next break.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2520295]This weekend is a special kind of lockdown with even all alcohol sales prohibited. You cannot even order via rappi. While no one yet knows what further measures the government may take I doubt they will include no alcohol sales and no visitors at Energy except until maybe the next holiday weekend with super spreader potential. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]I have not tried it, this weekend, but I was able to order alcohol on Rappi, last lockdown, by also ordering food. Try a mom & pop type restaurant, instead of a chain or big name. You won't know until you order, unfortunately, but if they can't deliver alcohol, you will be notified, and can try to cancel. I had 2-3 rounds of beers delivered, one night, from different restaurants.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2520285]Even though the USA embassy site has said that Covid PCR tests were not required to enter prior to January 11, we have had two people here say that testing is now required prior to entry or you have to quarantine.
[/QUOTE]The original plan was surely to start PCR requirement on January 12th. It changed last minute and maybe this change affects only MDE. I guess they feel everything is fair and fine because they give you PCR-Quarantine option. Though, it obviously is not. If one traveled here expecting no test and no quarantine requirement, but then here his PCR comes positive, the 2-week vacation is wasted. Note that PCR can come positive from an old and no longer active infection.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2519981]Yesterday, I was messaging a few SA girls. One seemed a bit cooler than the others, and not as shady with all the filters and emojis on her photos. Turns out, she also lives closest to me. We had been talking for almost a week, maybe, and I think she reached out to ask if I was in town. She asked for 300.000 and I said I usually pay 200.000. We were negotiating at 8p with a 10p curfew in place, so there wasn't much time to jerk around. She said 250.000. I said 200.000 + DiDi (6k each way). Deal. 15 mins and she's ready for a ride. She shows up and is talkative, positive energy, and huge tits.[/QUOTE]Dude, the first photo is the girl that came over before the lock down, right? She looks sweet and NICE tits 😋!! Are they real hehe!? I think would rather try to keep her for the lockdown weekend haha.

I wondered the same thing. They look a bit out of proportion for the rest of her body. I would not mind finding out for myself.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2520568]Dude, the first photo is the girl that came over before the lock down, right? She looks sweet and NICE tits 😋!! Are they real hehe!? I think would rather try to keep her for the lockdown weekend haha.[/QUOTE]

You can't get booze via Rappi during ley seca restrictions. You can get as much as you want before or after. You can get it served to you in paper cups or other concealing containers in cafes and restaurants where you are a known customer, but that does not apply during a lockdown. You've been through all of this IForgotshot.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2520482]I have not tried it, this weekend, but I was able to order alcohol on Rappi, last lockdown, by also ordering food. Try a mom & pop type restaurant, instead of a chain or big name. You won't know until you order, unfortunately, but if they can't deliver alcohol, you will be notified, and can try to cancel. I had 2-3 rounds of beers delivered, one night, from different restaurants.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2520365] I usually stay in El Centro at Hotel Botero but I heard the place was closed, and boarded up, unconfirmed.[/QUOTE]It is closed and a few months back when I was driving through that street I stopped and had a look through the entrance windows, typical dust and paper goods and trash strewn all in the.

Lobby area, looks completely deserted.

The Tall Man.

Exactly. Places like Gusto thrive for the most part on beginner mongers who don't know any better. Once guys have practiced our hobby for a while, they stop thinking "what would this cost at home?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2520360]I can understand your way of thinking, but that can be a slippery slope.

It works like this:

You can get girls in Colombia for $15 that would easily cost you $150 in the US. You can get girls in Colombia for $60 that would cost you $400-$600 in the US. But when you're stuck on thinking how much it would cost you back home it's easy to rationalize paying more. That's what frequently happens at Gusto. Guys come in, see girls that are asking for $500-$2000 back home and all they want is $200? Less than 100 yards away are girls, often looking just as good, who will treat you right for $60.

You can go to Gusto and have the Gusto experience and take home a Gusto girl, and at the end of the night you've had a great time and only spent $400 on drinks and a girl. Compared to the US, it's a great value.

Or you can get a girl elsewhere, go to a different club, have an almost identical experience and at the end of the night you've spent $150.

If you're in Colombia, forget what it costs back home and focus on what it costs in Colombia.[/QUOTE]100% true. The girls that every monger knows by name aren't generally the best experiences. The gems that you refer to are much better (in addition to being much less expensive). The problem is that you need time on the ground to find them and get to know them.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2520354]And if you mongers just stay still long enough to actually meet and get to know girls in Medellin and they know you, you will that the prices that the Tall Man and Myself have quoted are very much possible and you will have a rotation of girls at your feet. If you are the weekend millionaire who has no time to invest in this hobby, you will always pay top price and will rarely find the best gems that the city of eternal spring has to offer, Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]

I can't say I know of any experienced guys who hang out there and similar places.

[QUOTE=Combo;2520596]Exactly. Places like Gusto thrive for the most part on beginner mongers who don't know any better. Once guys have practiced our hobby for a while, they stop thinking "what would this cost at home?

100% true. The girls that every monger knows by name aren't generally the best experiences. The gems that you refer to are much better (in addition to being much less expensive). The problem is that you need time on the ground to find them and get to know them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2520285]Everybody I have talked to has had no issues with the Covid vaccine. The worst I heard was a few hours of arm soreness. I am going to get my vaccine Monday thank God..[/QUOTE]I had the Moderna vaccine in Late Sept, I can say almost exactly 24 hrs later it hit me, extreme fatigue, cold sweats, body aches, soreness at injection site. I put the heat on 90 and was still cold under a polar blanket.

But was sweating a lot, I stayed in bed for about 12 hrs, woke up Monday morning and felt 100% normal (this is exactly what it is supposed to do).

Fast forward 28 days late Oct, I get 2nd dose, exact repeat!

University of Chicago Moderna trial.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2520589]It is closed and a few months back when I was driving through that street I stopped and had a look through the entrance windows, typical dust and paper goods and trash strewn all in the.

Lobby area, looks completely deserted.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]It would be nice to find a way into the bldg, turn it into a free short time hotel, ala squatters style.

I'm surprised the homeless haven't found a way in yet?

I hope none of them are reading this jajajaja.

While mongering is a hobby and a luxury to most, to many on this forum it seems like a profession.

To those that can consider this a hobby then you should spend whatever you feel comfortable with whether 300 usd or 300 cop. As long as you feel it was worth your while at the end why should what others think even matter.

If you're use to a certain type of life in the US, living in the suburbs with a nice house, car, etc, why would you want to go to places Centro or Sante Fe in Bogota?

I've been to both and it's extremely congested and the short stay hotels are absolutely disgusting.

I'm sorry but this is the truth.

Believe it or not it's the budget mongers who are more likely targeted for being drugged or robbed because they practice their hobby in seedy areas.

While I get entertained reading some of these posts, it the obviously envious haters on this forum that I can't stand.

They'll say things like Gustos or Lleras girls are the same as centro girls because they saw one or 2 that were in Lleras. But guess what? For every one centro girl you find in Lleras I'll find you 10 that wouldn't ever work there and sell her pussy for 60 k.

It's all misleading BS info.

Some of you guys provide useful info yes, but the name calling at times of someone you don't even know cause he spends a lot shows how much of a hater some of you guys are.

At the end of the day a girl quotes a price you either accept decline or negotiate. Simple as that.

For me personally, I rather monger through FB and party in Lleras. And if I see a girl I got to have I'll pay whatever I feel I want.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2520365]
I am in the heart of the tourist corridor, on a Saturday night, and no one is around. This place is normally wall to wall people. Photos shot from my hotel room. Great room at the front of the building, normally would be very loud (does not bother me), private bath, very clean, strong WiFi signal, $12 per night single occupancy, 18 K pesos extra if I have a girl over ($5) or I can pay the double occupancy rate of $16 per night. I usually stay in El Centro at Hotel Botero but I heard the place was closed, and boarded up, unconfirmed[/QUOTE]Thanks for the detailed info.

Please can you let us know the details of the hotel in Av 70 you stayed this time.

Do they check for cedula of the girls?

This sounds very good deal.

It's funny to see the "how much pussy is worth" discussion happen in every forum. And every month or two the guys that prefer to pay less argue with the guys that have enough money to not care. The girls are like the airlines (any business really). They will price discriminate to make maximum cash. Airlines charge business men more than others, as best they can. As do the girls.

If you don't have much money or you go very often you have to pay less. If you have lots of money or go Infrequently you are happy to pay more. The reality is guys with cash simply don't care if it's $300. That amount of money means nothing.

It comes down to simple math. If you can only afford $5000/ year for pussy and want to fuck weekly then you better be paying $100 a shot. If your budget is $20,000/ year and you travel 10 times a year for a week each time, then $2000/ week is your budget and that goes a heck of a lot farther.

We don't really need to argue about it. Low budget dudes are getting girls they want at the price they want. High budget guys likewise. Let's just say to each his own and fuck as many hotties as each of us can afford and has stamina for.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2520620]While mongering is a hobby and a luxury to most, to many on this forum it seems like a profession.

To those that can consider this a hobby then you should spend whatever you feel comfortable with whether 300 usd or 300 cop. As long as you feel it was worth your while at the end why should what others think even matter.

If you're use to a certain type of life in the US, living in the suburbs with a nice house, car, etc, why would you want to go to places Centro or Sante Fe in Bogota?

I've been to both and it's extremely congested and the short stay hotels are absolutely disgusting.

I'm sorry but this is the truth.

Believe it or not it's the budget mongers who are more likely targeted for being drugged or robbed because they practice their hobby in seedy areas..[/QUOTE]Some interesting thoughts, although I don't agree with all of them. As an example you state that it's the budget mongers who are more likely to get drugged or robbed because they monger in seedy areas. I think it's the opposite, your more likely to get drugged in a nightclub / bar / apartment than in a seedy area which I assume your referring to El Centro, and a budget monger's radar is going to be much higher there to avoid being robbed.

All in all, I don't think there are a lot of haters on this board, it's just that everybody rolls different, and some guys just don't roll as others, thinking that how they roll is the correct way to roll, hence a lot of the friction at times between the posters as to how they roll, what they pay, and on and on.

In regards to mongering being a "profession" for many of the board members, well I agree with you on that thought, especially for those that live in Medellin and / or retired and / or can visit frequently and have lot's of disposable income.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2520620]While mongering is a hobby and a luxury to most, to many on this forum it seems like a profession.

To those that can consider this a hobby then you should spend whatever you feel comfortable with whether 300 usd or 300 cop. As long as you feel it was worth your while at the end why should what others think even matter.

If you're use to a certain type of life in the US, living in the suburbs with a nice house, car, etc, why would you want to go to places Centro or Sante Fe in Bogota?

I've been to both and it's extremely congested and the short stay hotels are absolutely disgusting.

I'm sorry but this is the truth.

Believe it or not it's the budget mongers who are more likely targeted for being drugged or robbed because they practice their hobby in seedy areas.

While I get entertained reading some of these posts, it the obviously envious haters on this forum that I can't stand.

They'll say things like Gustos or Lleras girls are the same as centro girls because they saw one or 2 that were in Lleras. But guess what? For every one centro girl you find in Lleras I'll find you 10 that wouldn't ever work there and sell her pussy for 60 k.

It's all misleading BS info.

Some of you guys provide useful info yes, but the name calling at times of someone you don't even know cause he spends a lot shows how much of a hater some of you guys are.

At the end of the day a girl quotes a price you either accept decline or negotiate. Simple as that.

For me personally, I rather monger through FB and party in Lleras. And if I see a girl I got to have I'll pay whatever I feel I want.[/QUOTE]Well said! I agree 100%.

I mostly stick to FB girls and I'm happy with that. Yes, I pay a little more than I would else where but I'm happy paying a little more to see the girls I want, and I couldn't care less if someone else gets the same girl for less. As long as I think its a fare price for me. (usually 150 K-250 K for an hour or two depending on the girl.) I"m happy paying that because I can easily afford it and it keeps the girls happy enough that they don't ever try to get more out of me. So yes, I feel that it doesn't matter if you are getting for 50 K or $300. If you are happy with the transaction it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2520646]It's funny to see the "how much pussy is worth" discussion happen in every forum. And every month or two the guys that prefer to pay less argue with the guys that have enough money to not care. The girls are like the airlines (any business really). They will price discriminate to make maximum cash. Airlines charge business men more than others, as best they can. As do the girls.

If you don't have much money or you go very often you have to pay less. If you have lots of money or go Infrequently you are happy to pay more. The reality is guys with cash simply don't care if it's $300. That amount of money means nothing.

It comes down to simple math. If you can only afford $5000/ year for pussy and want to fuck weekly then you better be paying $100 a shot. If your budget is $20,000/ year and you travel 10 times a year for a week each time, then $2000/ week is your budget and that goes a heck of a lot farther.

We don't really need to argue about it. Low budget dudes are getting girls they want at the price they want. High budget guys likewise. Let's just say to each his own and fuck as many hotties as each of us can afford and has stamina for.[/QUOTE]There are terms among labor unions, like "scab" or "rat".

I like to think of ISG as an interest group with a common shared interest, if mongers can reasonably agree here things will better for all of us.

I'm pretty sure most putas collaborate in most places around the world, why can't grown men act reasonably also in interest of the whole community?

Your post reads like something from Atlas Shrugged?

If you are are opposed to communal interests, why join a site like ISG? (yes that is rhetorical) I'm guessing I know the answer.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2520646]If you don't have much money or you go very often you have to pay less. If you have lots of money or go Infrequently you are happy to pay more. The reality is guys with cash simply don't care if it's $300. That amount of money means nothing.[/QUOTE]You could also have plenty of money, but you have done it so much that it is not worth $300 to you.

Just like a guy that has never been to Brazil that heard he could fuck porno stars there. In his mind it is something spectacular that he would gladly pay $1000 for the experience.

Then you have the experienced guy that has fucked so many of them already and knows you can fuck them for the same $50 as you could every other hooker. So it is not worth $1000 or even $100 to him. He tries to share this information with others, but since they don't get to fuck porno stars in the U.S...

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2520620]
If you're use to a certain type of life in the US, living in the suburbs with a nice house, car, etc, why would you want to go to places Centro or Sante Fe in Bogota?
I've been to both and it's extremely congested and the short stay hotels are absolutely disgusting.
[/QUOTE]I do it for experience, sex is part of it. It is true it's disgusting but sometimes it is memorable.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2520620]
Believe it or not it's the budget mongers who are more likely targeted for being drugged or robbed because they practice their hobby in seedy areas.
[/QUOTE]I would do what the girls do, find gusto mongers to rob.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2520662]I do it for experience, sex is part of it. It is true it's disgusting but sometimes it is memorable.

I would do what the girls do, find gusto mongers to rob.[/QUOTE]I'd rather be overcharged and have the free will to decline the offer rather than potentially get drugged by a girl in centro who can easily have her group of male friends nearby.

I have a lot of local guy friends in medellin and they tell me this is a thing.

And if you enjoy the experience more power to you. I've tried it and it's definitely not for me.

The unit in my building where I stay would easily cost 300 usd per night in a nice hotel in the US.

The girls I bang would easily cost 300 usd an hour.

So for me personally I am still coming out on top.

I bang hotter girls and I get a 1200 sq ft apartment with a balcony in a safe area with 24/7 security.

The majority of the best restaurants for fine dining is walking distance or a 5 minute taxi ride for my non pro dates.

Maybe to some I'm overspending but to me I'm spending less and getting more for my $$ whereas if I'm staying in centro and banging in these roach infested hotel rooms, I'd say I'm getting what I paid for.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2520365]Arrived Medellin late evening. Handed over my hard copy of my Migracion Form Proof. He asked me for COVID test results. Brief scare, he said my COVID form looked liked "anyone could have made it on their computer and had no signature. " Jajajjaja Tru that. I thought it looked great, Adobe Pro. They put me in a room by myself. Flashbacks to Tokyo when I was strip-searched and they picked apart my shit with chopsticks, literally. Then he came back in five minutes with a huge smile and said, "You can go. " he did not have to tell me twice. In hindsight, List Theory, never be first or last, hide in the middle. I was first off the plane (First Class) and first in line in Immigration.

Tried something new, too late for the bus, I prepaid online for a taxi and my driver was there with my name on a sign. Perfect. Roads empty, only took 35 minutes to the front door of my hotel on Avenida 70, the tourist corridor. $34, they never expect a tip but I gave him 20 mil pesos for a good ride. Hotel door locked, tap on glass. Super friendly check in girl.

The streets are deserted. There is a quarantine in place they tell me until Tue. No matter. My Numero Uno chica Catgirl does not know I am here yet. I mix hotels and staying at the girls' place, when it makes sense. Number 2 Maid Service backed out on me at the last second when her Auntie showed up unexpectedly. No one else knew I was coming which is how I do it, I let them know one at a time, keeps down the bickering. Maid Service will be here in the morning. I need the rest.

I am in the heart of the tourist corridor, on a Saturday night, and no one is around. This place is normally wall to wall people. Photos shot from my hotel room. Great room at the front of the building, normally would be very loud (does not bother me), private bath, very clean, strong WiFi signal, $12 per night single occupancy, 18 K pesos extra if I have a girl over ($5) or I can pay the double occupancy rate of $16 per night. I usually stay in El Centro at Hotel Botero but I heard the place was closed, and boarded up, unconfirmed. Maybe I can buy it at a good price, jeje.

Did I mention Life is Good, again? I traveled with a half-full medium sized back pack, mostly containing T-shirts I got for the girls last time I was in NYC. You want to see a chica drop to her knees AND leave a puddle at the same time, give her one of these T's.

I was never touched or searched once. I have shoes and change of clothes at least 3 girls houses so I will start making the Rounds soon, with lots of pussy pics. Weather is here, wish you were perfect, jajajaja.

In case no one told ya, electric here is same. Always bring an extension cord with three sockets on the end, the hotels I have been in here suffer from a lack of wall outlets. Never leaves my bag when home.[/QUOTE]I always try to learn how better to operate. The tip about the extension cord was so spot on. I ask myself why I never thought about it years ago?

And they say you can't teach a old dog new tricks. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2520667]
Maybe to some I'm overspending but to me I'm spending less and getting more for my $$ whereas if I'm staying in centro and banging in these roach infested hotel rooms, I'd say I'm getting what I paid for.[/QUOTE]That was the point I was trying to make earlier.

Most of us do not live down there permanently or have not retired yet to move, and simply do not have enough time and resources to invest in searching for cheap gems.

One day we will all be able to get along and find some common ground. I am speaking from knowledge, not second hand, I know millionaires who live in the ghetto. Whether you believe it or not. I know guys who are accustomed to a ritzy lifestyle and cannot function in the environment of the ghetto. I know guys who are wealthy who do not care to be wasteful with their cash, because it has become a way of life for them, they will save a quarter because they don't want to spend a dollar.

I've seen members on this board, specifically say, if you talk about money then you are not wealthy. Many times members have said this. This statement must be a good ole boy statement that belittles people who have more money than the popular guys doing all of the talking. I will say this, it's your money, your time, and your mongering experience so enjoy it, regardless of cost.

Please allow me to share a story with you about how one of my mongering friends who live in Poblado invited me over to see how beautiful his top notch, high priced girls with the nice make up and nice dresses looked and for me to give him a response of what I thought. After spending 3 hours with one of his beauty queens, he allowed me to speak with her after he had banged her for 2-3 hours in the next room. We spoke and made small talk and shortly thereafter she left. He asked me what did I think of her, and I replied, you paid her so much that she never even solicited me for any of my money! LOL, I just keep it real. I have no reason to lie, I am more than happy with what Parque Botero offers and I have no hate in my heart for guys who spend so much money that the girl forgets to ask the really rich man in the room does he want a date!! So with that being said, money will not make you comfortable in Poblado and living and socializing in Centro does not make you poor, but carry on board members, the money posts are keeping me entertained until I return! Pollo Negro is out!

The last weeks in Medellin have been rather epic. What a beautiful city and people. Every time I come here, I am shocked by the women in this city and country. They are at once wholesome and incredibly sexy. South America is a mix of European, Native American and African blood through decades of random fucking, and whereas some countries didn't get the mix quite right (Central America, Bolivia and Ecuador), Colombia is an epic mix.

I landed on December 31st and after checking in at the hotel, I went out at 1 am, deciding that I didn't want to wait until morning to find a girl but also that I was a bit jetlagged after flying from Europe, so I wanted to get it done quickly. I jump in a taxi and we immediately find two 19-year-old girls that are walking from a New Year's Eve party down to get a taxi home (that's what they say). My taxi stops and asks them if they want to come to my hotel instead. They say yes but want 200 each. That seems fair, and plus, I didn't want to search further as I was tired. We head back to my hotel, their ID's are checked and we have a threesome. In my experience, one great way to fuck two girls is to put the smaller one on top of the other one, have them spread their legs and fuck them that way, taking turns of course. You have to have them guide you on whether you need to switch condoms in-between, but these girls didn't seem to care. These girls were both small, but one was super skinny and the other normal skinny. Now, one wonders if they were actually heading home from a party or just looking for someone to give a bit of money. The fact that there was a 24-hour curfew and no one on the street + not a place where street walkers usually are, suggests that I may have indeed just gotten lucky. This was in Poblado by Milla de Oro. I did get fucked by my hotel though, as they charged me 150 COP for the 3rd guest in my room for a threesome. They figured that I'm allowed to have a guest, but two guests was too much. The next day, I told them that I intended to check out and go to another hotel because of this, but ended up not doing it and instead tipping the front desk guy 50 COP. That was all that was needed, as since then, they just wave me past and smiles.

Of the 8 girls that I've fucked while here in Medellin over the last days, two stand out. Firstly, I'm quite proud of having talked a great looking Gusto girl into coming over to my hotel for 200 – down from the initial offer of 650 (the gringo price). Trick is to take their number and text them during the day, during a curfew or after Gusto closes at night. Then they have no leverage.

The other one was a girl that I'm quite fascinated by. Her (work) name is Luna and she is tall (5'6') and skinny – model like features. She is a super-hot Latina, and you should see some of the short dresses that she wears. Having way too much experience in fucking random working girls, I find that it's not often that a girl will go all in during sex and truly be passionate. I mean, why would you if you were them. Luna does and it is tremendous fun fucking her. She is super primal in her expressions and I genuinely enjoyed being with her. It tells you something when you've fucked 8 girls in a week, but barely remember the other 7.

In any case, happy to share her details. Add her on Instagram and send her a message the next time you're in Medellin:

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/luna_4580/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2520285] One thing that has pissed me off about all the scare mongering is there is only so much people can take, and everybody is sick of it, but now is the time to be scared. Cases are at all time highs in the USA and Colombia. One in three tests done in Bogota for Covid now is +. That is fucking crazy high.

I have seen hundreds of people now with Covid. I cannot recall any without symptoms. If you are going to play, and you see a woman with bloodshot eyes, a runny nose, barking cough, or one who does not look right, Stay the fuck away! Of all the bullshit spread, to me, the worst is that people with Covid spread it asymptomatically like that is how it normally happens. Maybe that does happen but everyone I have seen knows exactly from whom or when they got it.

[/QUOTE]I'm pretty sure I responded to a very similar post you made a while ago, but I don't want to just let stuff like this go without any pushback. On one hand you say that people should be taking Covid seriously and to not fuck around. Great! You could've stopped there but instead went on to claim that asymptomatic spread is bullshit. I mean, come on dude, all I had to do was literally Google "asymptomatic covid" and this is the first article that came up: [URL]https://www.uchealth.org/today/the-truth-about-asymptomatic-spread-of-covid-19/[/URL].

"Studies show that at least 40-to-50% of people who test positive for COVID-19 have no symptoms. " You are telling people that unless a chica has obvious symptoms then she is fine. This is demonstrably untrue and irresponsible to say.

I'm not saying people shouldn't go monger in Colombia right now. Everyone has their own risk appetite. But don't just believe some guy on a forum who tells you're minimizing your risk as long as you stay away from visibly sick girls. Asymptomatic spread is absolutely a thing, and the only way to avoid it is to avoid human contact. The fact is mongering has always been a risky behavior health wise, now more than ever. You decide what you want to do based on actual data.

Anyone ever see this old Chinese geezer monger around? Dude goes around parque Lleras insulting all the girls and offering them centro prices (30-40 k).

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2520285]Everybody

One thing that has pissed me off about all the scare mongering is there is only so much people can take, and everybody is sick of it, but now is the time to be scared. Cases are at all time highs in the USA and Colombia. One in three tests done in Bogota for Covid now is +. That is fucking crazy high.

I have seen hundreds of people now with Covid. I cannot recall any without symptoms. If you are going to play, and you see a woman with bloodshot eyes, a runny nose, barking cough, or one who does not look right, Stay the fuck away! Of all the bullshit spread, to me, the worst is that people with Covid spread it asymptomatically like that is how it normally happens. Maybe that does happen but everyone I have seen knows exactly from whom or when they got it.

I am jealous of you guys in Colombia now. Hopefully, I can join you fuckers and do my duty to bang as much Colombian strange as possible come February. Y'all be careful out there.[/QUOTE]Oh boy, After returning from my 30 days in Colombia to Sex prison. I think I too will have to wait and get a vaccine before traveling back. I dodged that virus so far in high risk situations but like you say Elvis, "NOW is the time to be scared" Glad I went when I did!

[QUOTE=Rextor;2520693]I mean, come on dude, all I had to do was literally Google "asymptomatic covid" and this is the first article that came up: [URL]https://www.uchealth.org/today/the-truth-about-asymptomatic-spread-of-covid-19/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Here is the data from your link and was the basis for asymptomatic or presymptomatic transmission.

Iceland 90 positive cases (Whatever TF that means) and 50% of cases were reported to be presymptomatic. They tested 9000 people and 90 were +.

China 468 cases of Covid in one study. 59 were reported to be presymptomatically spread or 12.6%.

In Singapore 10 out of 157 cases were reported to be presymptomatically spread which is 6. 4%.

[URL]https://time.com/5850256/who-asymptomatic-spread/[/URL]

So it came as a surprise when Maria Van Kerkhove, the World Health Organization's (WHO) technical lead for COVID-19, said at a press briefing on June 8 that asymptomatic transmission appears to be "very rare. ".

She is ripped on and then on June 9 there is this, [URL]https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jun/09/who-expert-backtracks-after-saying-asymptomatic-transmission-very-rare[/URL].

One day later, Maria Van Kerkhove says she accepts "models" that show up to 40% of Covid infections come from asymptomatic people. The quotes are mine.

First part of science is seeing if the data in studies is reproducible, and the Iceland study is worthless. No method to detect Covid is close to 99% accurate so the data from a study with a <1% positive rate is worthless and the data from said study is way out of bounds in comparison to the others.

The other two are closer to home: 12.6% and 6. 4%. The problem is both these studies were done early on in the Covid crisis and not all the symptoms of Covid were known. In fact, a big one, loss of taste and smell was not known or accepted, and that is just one of many new symptoms learned to be associated with Covid.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2520693]"Studies show that at least 40-to-50% of people who test positive for COVID-19 have no symptoms. "[/QUOTE]Your own link disputes that.

The notion of presymptomatic transmission was based on 69, yes 69 cases before all the symptoms of Covid were known, and I said I have seen hundreds.

If you think that WHO expert went from saying asymptomatic or presymptomatic Covid transmission is "very rare" to 40% in one day based on anything other than political pressure, I have a bridge to sell you.

And the only reason I went through all this is to say once again: If a girl looks sick, stay the fuck away!

This notion that half the people who have Covid look totally fine is irresponsible.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2520673]I always try to learn how better to operate. The tip about the extension cord was so spot on. I ask myself why I never thought about it years ago?

And they say you can't teach a old dog new tricks. Thanks.[/QUOTE]That is one of the current themes among my family and close friends is stuff it that took us ten years to figure out that should have been obvious at first glance. I had a couple recently that made me feel like a total dumb-ass: Moving the cargo net in my pick-up truck bed from behind the cab to in front of the tail gate was a game changer for hauling groceries. The truck is a 2011 and I just figured it out this year, jajajaja. My national celeb sister and eternal optimist (charmed life) says I am supposed to be happy because it means I am smart for finally figuring it out in the end. Doesn't work like that, unfortunately, jajaja. You're most certainly welcome, enjoy!

Thanks for the feedback. One of my pet peeves is propagation of misinformation. To that point, when I said I was not searched or touched on my flight here, of course I went through the scanners when I first boarded at my small point-of-origin municipal airport. I have TSA PreCheck which made process quick and is probably why it didn't register on my earlier post. But after that, no searches, no touches, including changing planes at MIA, all flights on American Airlines.

A few of you asked for more info about my hotel. Thanks Tall Man for the Intel on Hotel Botero. That was my go-to place. I will kiss Good Bye my sealed box of personal items I had accumulated here and left there from my previous trip, without one tear of regret and chalk it up to the cost of doing business. I love El Centro but it's nice to be out in the Laureles-Estadio 'burbs again, especially during the lock down.

Including Hotel Botero, I have pretty much become an Ayenda guy when it comes to hotels in Colombia. The hotels are independent, but contract for the name, marketing, and Ayenda's reservation system. Set your search filter on Ayenda on your favorite hotel booking Web site. I get frequent-fucker discounts so you may have to pay a few bucks more per night than I do. Every Ayenda hotel I have stayed at allows guests. They check cedulas. They charge a nominal fee per night for a guest OR you can book double occupancy and it comes out the same. If you're doing multiple chicas per day then use your fourth grade math and pay the double occupancy rate.

Because it's not a true chain, there is a lot of variability among Ayenda listed hotels. Good WiFi, Bad WiFi, Hot Water, No hot water, maid will suck your dick, maid won't suck your dick. . . To Ayenda's credit, their pricing has been very "reliable" for me. In other words, when you pay more you get more. Don't give Gringos a worse name and be a constant whiner about services if you are paying $11 per night.

That is La Gacela (formerly Maid Service) my number two girl resting in my lap 10 seconds before I flipped her over. I met her over a year ago when she was the maid at an Ayenda hotel near the University side of Avenida 70. University (college chicas) on one end, the large Estadio (Stadium) metro station on the other end of Avenida 70, also called Carerra, 70, also called the Tourist Corridor. She is the only one who knows I am in town for the moment and with the lockdown in place supposedly until Tue AM, I am perfectly happy to hunker down with one hot chica and attend to the rest of the rotation later.

La Gacela works full time, presently on a night rotation (regular girl, never asks for dinero), so we won't get on each others nerves. Her birthday is this month and she is getting a flat screen TV. My ROI on the TV and the fridge I bought her last trip is too large a number for me to calculate in my head. Tick Mark Plus Column, Regular Girl versus Sex Worker.

She will need to get some sleep during the day when here at my hotel. Pearl: As I do with all chicas after I get to know them a little, I ask them in a sincere manner, "Est bien si empiezo a follarte mientras duermes?" "Is it okay if I start fucking you while you are sleeping?" I make it sound like a trust issue. Amazingly, I have never had a chica say no. Jejejeje. Timing and asking it the right way are essential or you will come off as a perv.

La Gacela and I split the meal shown, delivery only because of the quarantine from across the street. Good luck as usual, excellent fresh, hot meal. The grilled meat was delicious. 4.600 COP or $1.31. Foto of her head in my lap, just before I flipped her over.

My room, from standing at the bathroom door. Great cross ventilation, WiFi and hot water. I am actually digging the lock-down for the moment. Gives time to write this for one thang. Plus, why get upset over things you cannot control? This room going to get noisy when the quarantine is lifted. That don't make me no never-mind, neither. Quad neg, you read it here, first.

[QUOTE=Junior11;2520568]Dude, the first photo is the girl that came over before the lock down, right? She looks sweet and NICE tits 😋!! Are they real hehe!? I think would rather try to keep her for the lockdown weekend haha.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2520569]I wondered the same thing. They look a bit out of proportion for the rest of her body. I would not mind finding out for myself.[/QUOTE]They are big and natural. That photo looks a bit misleading, because she is lying on her back. Lockdown would have certainly been an option, as she lives close and with friends. I just wasn't in the mood to spend my weekend entertaining a chick with football on, etc. I had to do so much shopping and arguing the first few days that I didn't have the energy or desire to fake it if she was a dud. 90 minutes can be a hell of a lot different than 4 days.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2520571]You can't get booze via Rappi during ley seca restrictions. You can get as much as you want before or after. You can get it served to you in paper cups or other concealing containers in cafes and restaurants where you are a known customer, but that does not apply during a lockdown. You've been through all of this IForgotshot.[/QUOTE]I'm not speculating or issuing a guarantee, much less stating the law, here, I'm just telling you from my own personal experience. During a ley seca in the Fall, I was able to find a couple restaurants that were happy to take my money via Rappi. If some one locked-up with nothing on-hand, unlike myself, then take a shot. The worst that can happen is Rappi doesn't allow it, or the delivery guy messages to say the order is being changed because the restaurant won't include your beers, and you waste a few minutes.

Guys,

Should pay as much as they want. Guys should not reference their home countries as justification because unless you live here this is not your home country. Be careful with assumptions about what is a safe area. If you aren't sure what I mean by that then my advice is to be very careful. Most of my favorite restaurants are in "Poblaurelevenza". Personally for me Poblaurelevenza is a nice place to visit but I don't want to live there. So sangny we probably are on the same page about that since you visit rather than live in Poblaurelevenza. But seriously, I don't consider myself to be underspending or other guys to be overspending. I know for a fact I am not the only Centro rat who can afford to live in a Poblado penthouse and source $500 K dates from the well known places.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2520667]I'd rather be overcharged and have the free will to decline the offer rather than potentially get drugged by a girl in centro who can easily have her group of male friends nearby.

I have a lot of local guy friends in medellin and they tell me this is a thing.

And if you enjoy the experience more power to you. I've tried it and it's definitely not for me.

The unit in my building where I stay would easily cost 300 usd per night in a nice hotel in the US.

The girls I bang would easily cost 300 usd an hour.

So for me personally I am still coming out on top.

I bang hotter girls and I get a 1200 sq ft apartment with a balcony in a safe area with 24/7 security..[/QUOTE]

I think if I see one more post about comparing prices in the USA to prices in Colombia I think I will scream. Duh that is the reason we travel to third world country's. Oh yah almost forgot { I'm on vacation I will spend what I want }. Gee no kidding.

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2520646]It's funny to see the "how much pussy is worth" discussion happen in every forum. And every month or two the guys that prefer to pay less argue with the guys that have enough money to not care....[/QUOTE]There are guys who pay less who do not argue with the guys who pay more. The ones who argue are the ones who earn less.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2520804]I think if I see one more post about comparing prices in the USA to prices in Colombia I think I will scream. Duh that is the reason we travel to third world country's. [/QUOTE]When I used to travel specifically to monger, it always seemed pretty expensive because of the airfare, accommodations, eating out and the various other travel costs I endured.

[QUOTE=Orgasmico;2520810]When I used to travel specifically to monger, it always seemed pretty expensive because of the airfare, accommodations, eating out and the various other travel costs I endured.[/QUOTE]I have not travelled since March, 2020 and am mongering strictly in my home city. I have saved much more money during that period than an equivalent period in the past when I did my mongering trips.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2520285].... If you are going to play, and you see a woman with bloodshot eyes, a runny nose, barking cough, or one who does not look right, Stay the fuck away! ....[/QUOTE]I stayed away from such girls even before covid.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2520693]I
I'm not saying people shouldn't go monger in Colombia right now. Everyone has their own risk appetite. But don't just believe some guy on a forum who tells you're minimizing your risk as long as you stay away from visibly sick girls. Asymptomatic spread is absolutely a thing, and the only way to avoid it is to avoid human contact. The fact is mongering has always been a risky behavior wise, now more than ever. You decide what you want to do based on actual data.[/QUOTE]Well said, Rextor. As adults, especially in these days of Covid, we each need to be aware of our own appetite for risk as informed by the latest science and statistics, taking into account our respective ages and health--and should be philosophical about the consequences should we place a bad bet. As a geezer back here in hometown USA, after having risked one session with an Asian escort last fall, I've decided to abstain from our hobby until I can claim my place in the vaccine queue and return to Paisa-land. If I were under 40 with no chronic health concerns, this might well find me back in Medellin happily bedding the chicas, be they plucked from a doorway round Carrera / Calle 52 or auditioned on the stripper pole in Las Islas--but still understanding that I would be rolling the Covid dice.

[QUOTE=Rextor;2520693] I'm not saying people shouldn't go monger in Colombia right now. Everyone has their own risk appetite. But don't just believe some guy on a forum who tells you're minimizing your risk as long as you stay away from visibly sick girls. Asymptomatic spread is absolutely a thing, and the only way to avoid it is to avoid human contact. The fact is mongering has always been a risky behavior health wise, now more than ever. You decide what you want to do based on actual data.[/QUOTE]It used to be that the potential for getting STD's for some was the biggest concern while mongering before the Pandemic. Unfortunately that appears to be the least on anybody's mind now. You mentioned "risk appetite" and given what's occurring, it's like Russian Roulette and probably much worse now.

When I was in Medellin in November the status of the Pandemic was in a downward trend, and basically things were all open with no curfews, no pico / cedula, and few if any restrictions. When I visited I was a bit frightened about getting sick, and I was in El Centro taking girls upstairs and there were no " health protocols" of any kind, and of course I didn't go with anyone visibly sick, but it made me wonder about all the interaction the SW's have with different people, the dirtiness of the Love Motels, yet I took the risks and had a blast.

But two months ago things were different than they are now, and I believe people's mindsets regarding risk have changed, becoming more "conservative" since there are now vaccines available in the USA, and many are now waiting to be vaccinated before returning to Medellin to monger.

[QUOTE=Jonodiera;2520691]I jump in a taxi and we immediately find two 19-year-old girls that are walking from a New Year's Eve party down to get a taxi home (that's what they say). My taxi stops and asks them if they want to come to my hotel instead. [/QUOTE]I am curios. Did you get a random taxi to help you find girl? Do you speak Spanish?

[QUOTE=Jonodiera;2520691]find that it's not often that a girl will go all in during sex and truly be passionate. I mean, why would you if you were them. Luna does and it is tremendous fun fucking her. She is super primal in her expressions and I genuinely enjoyed being with her. It tells you something when you've fucked 8 girls in a week, but barely remember the other 7.[/QUOTE]I have met a few. I think I found one out of every 20 on average last year. They can fuck the 10th guy the same way they fuck the first. I am searching for them always. Haha.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2520667]I'd rather be overcharged and have the free will to decline the offer rather than potentially get drugged by a girl in centro who can easily have her group of male friends nearby.

I have a lot of local guy friends in medellin and they tell me this is a thing.

And if you enjoy the experience more power to you. I've tried it and it's definitely not for me.

The unit in my building where I stay would easily cost 300 usd per night in a nice hotel in the US.

The girls I bang would easily cost 300 usd an hour.

So for me personally I am still coming out on top.

I bang hotter girls and I get a 1200 sq ft apartment with a balcony in a safe area with 24/7 security.

The majority of the best restaurants for fine dining is walking distance or a 5 minute taxi ride for my non pro dates.

Maybe to some I'm overspending but to me I'm spending less and getting more for my $$ whereas if I'm staying in centro and banging in these roach infested hotel rooms, I'd say I'm getting what I paid for.[/QUOTE]I have never read a report here or elsewhere that a monger is drugged by a girl from El Centro. I am not refuting the claim, but you mentioned truth and BS, the truth I know is there is no such report or maybe I miss it. Surfer and his friend were robbed in El Poblado at gun point. I think RiceRocket has to bribe a cop near El Poblado. Tall Man's friend was drugged and I remember he said the building had a security. I think the drugged victims almost always have out-call girls from unknow places. That is not how El Centro works either.

You asked why and I gave you my answer. I have no issue with your approach.

A few years ago, my Spanish tutor asked where did I have dinner the night before, she was a little shocked that I was at Sant Fe. She also told me she had never visited the area. Locals often do that. How much you spend is really not the issue.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2520803]Guys,

I know for a fact I am not the only Centro rat who can afford to live in a Poblado penthouse and source $500 K dates from the well known places.[/QUOTE]The truth of the matter is that the Centro rats on this board are probably the most wealthy members of this group and some them do live in Poblado Penthouses and source 30 K dates from El Centro. Perhaps this is conceptually hard for many to relate to in that why would a guy living in a luxury Penthouse go on 30 K dates?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2520861]It used to be that the potential for getting STD's for some was the biggest concern while mongering before the Pandemic. Unfortunately that appears to be the least on anybody's mind now. You mentioned "risk appetite" and given what's occurring, it's like Russian Roulette and probably much worse now.

When I was in Medellin in November the status of the Pandemic was in a downward trend, and basically things were all open with no curfews, no pico / cedula, and few if any restrictions. When I visited I was a bit frightened about getting sick, and I was in El Centro taking girls upstairs and there were no " health protocols" of any kind, and of course I didn't go with anyone visibly sick, but it made me wonder about all the interaction the SW's have with different people, the dirtiness of the Love Motels, yet I took the risks and had a blast.

But two months ago things were different than they are now, and I believe people's mindsets regarding risk have changed, becoming more "conservative" since there are now vaccines available in the USA, and many are now waiting to be vaccinated before returning to Medellin to monger.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/01/10/bbc-report-on-lockdown-sex-your-best-sexual-partner-is-yourself/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2520899]I have never read a report here or elsewhere that a monger is drugged by a girl from El Centro. I am not refuting the claim, but you mentioned truth and BS, the truth I know is there is no such report or maybe I miss it. Surfer and his friend were robbed in El Poblado at gun point. I think RiceRocket has to bribe a cop near El Poblado. Tall Man's friend was drugged and I remember he said the building had a security. I think the drugged victims almost always have out-call girls from unknow places. That is not how El Centro works either.

You asked why and I gave you my answer. I have no issue with your approach.

A few years ago, my Spanish tutor asked where did I have dinner the night before, she was a little shocked that I was at Sant Fe. She also told me she had never visited the area. Locals often do that. How much you spend is really not the issue.[/QUOTE]The other issue brought up by this poster which I posted a response to had really to do about, how guys roll, with the inference being that if you roll on the cheap in seedy area's, meaning El Centro, your more likely to get drugged and robbed, while the truth of the matter is which you have outlined is that it's the other way around. Unfortunately there are some who think how they roll is the right way to roll versus how others roll.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2520899]I have never read a report here or elsewhere that a monger is drugged by a girl from El Centro. I am not refuting the claim, but you mentioned truth and BS, the truth I know is there is no such report or maybe I miss it. Surfer and his friend were robbed in El Poblado at gun point. I think RiceRocket has to bribe a cop near El Poblado. Tall Man's friend was drugged and I remember he said the building had a security. I think the drugged victims almost always have out-call girls from unknow places. That is not how El Centro works either.

You asked why and I gave you my answer. I have no issue with your approach.

A few years ago, my Spanish tutor asked where did I have dinner the night before, she was a little shocked that I was at Sant Fe. She also told me she had never visited the area. Locals often do that. How much you spend is really not the issue.[/QUOTE]I'm basing my facts on my experiences and interactions with the people I've met along my ventures. Not everything is based on what I read on this forum.

Poblado is not an exception to being drugged or robbed. My point is it's likelier to happen in seedy areas just like in all countries the majority or crimes happen in bad areas.

Many come on this forum seeking advice and even new comers come around posting trip reports.

And it seems like if they decided to spend most of their time in Poblado, Gustos, La Isla etc paying 200+ usd per girl then he gets attacked and called names.

Meanwhile they probably had the time of their lives.

These types of things deter people from sharing info.

I personally don't care how one mongers and how they spend their $$.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2520929]I'm basing my facts on my experiences and interactions with the people I've met along my ventures. Not everything is based on what I read on this forum.

Poblado is not an exception to being drugged or robbed. My point is it's likelier to happen in seedy areas just like in all countries the majority or crimes happen in bad areas.[/QUOTE]The majority of mongers don't frequent seedy areas in Medellin, and are more likely to get drugged and robbed in Poblado and Laureles than in El Centro, and I say this based on living full time in Medellin for three years up until the Pandemic.

So contrary to the thought that the majority of crimes happen in bad area's, well in this case, it was just being pointed out that this isn't really the case for mongers in Medellin, and I understand it's counterintuitive to what you thought.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2520929]Poblado is not an exception to being drugged or robbed. My point is it's likelier to happen in seedy areas just like in all countries the majority or crimes happen in bad areas.[/QUOTE]These drugging networks are pretty sophisticated and run by criminal gangs. They go where the fish are biting, which can include El Pablado and lower level middle class areas. They especially want to find people carrying credit cards so they can run up charges or hit ATMs. There's plenty of articles around about this.

You're wrong about this one, but that's okay. We all are wrong sometimes, is how we learn. Wink.

There are theories that the vaccines offer no protection for up to 8 months from the time you receive your dose. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;2520832]Well said, Rextor. As adults, especially in these days of Covid, we each need to be aware of our own appetite for risk as informed by the latest science and statistics, taking into account our respective ages and health--and should be philosophical about the consequences should we place a bad bet. As a geezer back here in hometown USA, after having risked one session with an Asian escort last fall, I've decided to abstain from our hobby until I can claim my place in the vaccine queue and return to Paisa-land. If I were under 40 with no chronic health concerns, this might well find me back in Medellin happily bedding the chicas, be they plucked from a doorway round Carrera / Calle 52 or auditioned on the stripper pole in Las Islas--but still understanding that I would be rolling the Covid dice.[/QUOTE]

So another BM told me he saw a few people lurking around Centro yesterday. Ok today let's go to centro. Deserted but still girls around operating at around 10% of what I saw on Friday. Had a good look around. 1 or 2 lookers, got a phone number. Picked up a venny, nice body, attitude not great. Damage 30 k, wanted an extra 10 k to jerk me off over her tits and then had the audacity to ask me for a tip, told her no. Room at Zona Rosa 12 k. Took a few pics from Zona Rosa, took pics of girls on the street but did not want to be too obvious with my phone. Interesting day.

Also as a side note I found a shop near me selling alcohol and a restaurant. Roll on Tuesday.

Edit. I also want to add that there was a huge police presence. They all ignored us except for 1 cop, was very pleasant but advised we could be deported for wandering around during curfew so took a cab back.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2520993]So another BM told me he saw a few people lurking around Centro yesterday. Ok today let's go to centro. Deserted but still girls around operating at around 10% of what I saw on Friday. Had a good look around. 1 or 2 lookers, got a phone number. Picked up a venny, nice body, attitude not great. Damage 30 k, wanted an extra 10 k to jerk me off over her tits and then had the audacity to ask me for a tip, told her no. Room at Zona Rosa 12 k. Took a few pics from Zona Rosa, took pics of girls on the street but did not want to be too obvious with my phone. Interesting day.

Also as a side note I found a shop near me selling alcohol and a restaurant. Roll on Tuesday.

Edit. I also want to add that there was a huge police presence. They all ignored us except for 1 cop, was very pleasant but advised we could be deported for wandering around during curfew so took a cab back.[/QUOTE]Good hotel choice Zona Rosa, it's my go to Hotel and the room you were in has a good view of the courtyard of the Veracruz Church. You were in my favorite room which I have probably been in at least 100 times over the last four years. I prefer this Hotel over Premier Plaza due to it's more obscure entrance. As far as the Vennie, what a piece of shit trying to upsell you and then ask for a propina. If she had had any brains she would of done what you requested and earned a tip. I know your Spanish skills are limited as you previously mentioned and it can be challenging not being able to interview and converse with the girls but don't despair you will find some nice girls. What I can tell you though is don't get to wrapped up in the lookers, they think their shit doesn't stink and typically give shitty service.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2520941]The majority of mongers don't frequent seedy areas in Medellin, and are more likely to get drugged and robbed in Poblado and Laureles than in El Centro, and I say this based on living full time in Medellin for three years up until the Pandemic.

So contrary to the thought that the majority of crimes happen in bad area's, well in this case, it was just being pointed out that this isn't really the case for mongers in Medellin, and I understand it's counterintuitive to what you thought.[/QUOTE]I agree to an extent. And initially this is what I thought as well since poblado is filled with tourists.

3 people I know got drugged. They were all in more local areas. None in poblado.

One that got drugged was at Farenheit. Which is known for after hours parties.

The friend who was robbed was in centro.

I think in Poblado the crooked cops are the main concern.

And while I do believe you can definitely get drugged and robbed in Poblado the presence of police at night makes it somewhat of a deterrent.

Maybe I am wrong with my assessment of crimes vs mongers in medellin. For me personally Poblado is clearly a safer area than centro.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2521013]Good hotel choice Zona Rosa, it's my go to Hotel and the room you were in has a good view of the courtyard of the Veracruz Church. You were in my favorite room which I have probably been in at least 100 times over the last four years. I prefer this Hotel over Premier Plaza due to it's more obscure entrance. As far as the Vennie, what a piece of shit trying to upsell you and then ask for a propina. If she had had any brains she would of done what you requested and earned a tip. I know your Spanish skills are limited as you previously mentioned and it can be challenging not being able to interview and converse with the girls but don't despair you will find some nice girls. What I can tell you though is don't get to wrapped up in the lookers, they think their shit doesn't stink and typically give shitty service.[/QUOTE]I remember a lot of you guys mentioning that hotel. It was actually the girl with the other BM that wanted it because she didn't have cedula and we were literally outside of it. I know what you mean by the lookers but I feel even without the language you'll either get good vibes or not from a girl and that's what I normally go with. We were about to head back so I literally just grabbed the venny quickly as she was already outside the hotel and I was sex starved for the last few days, but yeah as with a lot of them dumb as rock she could have earned a nice propina.

I've been talking to a few of them via translator on what's app over the last few days. I know I'll get good service from them because they have good attitudes and I get good vibes from them and I've already made it clear exactly what I want and they've promised to deliver, let's see.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2520900]The truth of the matter is that the Centro rats on this board are probably the most wealthy members of this group and some them do live in Poblado Penthouses and source 30 K dates from El Centro. Perhaps this is conceptually hard for many to relate to in that why would a guy living in a luxury Penthouse go on 30 K dates?[/QUOTE]Well there is the view that centro chicas will get more down and dirty as well.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2520900]The truth of the matter is that the Centro rats on this board are probably the most wealthy members of this group and some them do live in Poblado Penthouses and source 30 K dates from El Centro. Perhaps this is conceptually hard for many to relate to in that why would a guy living in a luxury Penthouse go on 30 K dates?[/QUOTE]I bet they take metro to the Centro. I have a rule of the thumb theory that one pays a girl exact fare he pays a day for a hotel. Others may still have the same budget but overspend on lodging as opposite to girls. Other may look in the Centro for certain things they can't procure in Poblado or don't want their friends to know.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2520981]There are theories that the vaccines offer no protection for up to 8 months from the time you receive your dose. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?[/QUOTE]There are other statements that say that Pfizer / Moderna offer 3 to 6 months protection against severe disease starting from two-three weeks after the second jab. Other available vaccines may offer up to two years, but you have to take them specifically. You can get more info at the FDA website. I'm not in a medical field.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2521044]Well there is the view that centro chicas will get more down and dirty as well.[/QUOTE]I have done super hot blue eyed blondes for $500 usd and left feeling quite disappointed, conversely I have done $5 putas that have blown my mind.

Some fools pay for an illusion, I'm not out to mind fuck myself.

I want all BBFS include DT anal rimming swallow, true PSE on steroids for the price of lunch at mcds LOL.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2520688]One day we will all be able to get along and find some common ground. I am speaking from knowledge, not second hand, I know millionaires who live in the ghetto. Whether you believe it or not. I know guys who are accustomed to a ritzy lifestyle and cannot function in the environment of the ghetto. I know guys who are wealthy who do not care to be wasteful with their cash, because it has become a way of life for them, they will save a quarter because they don't want to spend a dollar.

I've seen members on this board, specifically say, if you talk about money then you are not wealthy. Many times members have said this. This statement must be a good ole boy statement that belittles people who have more money than the popular guys doing all of the talking. I will say this, it's your money, your time, and your mongering experience so enjoy it, regardless of cost.

Please allow me to share a story with you about how one of my mongering friends who live in Poblado invited me over to see how beautiful his top notch, high priced girls with the nice make up and nice dresses looked and for me to give him a response of what I thought. After spending 3 hours with one of his beauty queens, he allowed me to speak with her after he had banged her for 2-3 hours in the next room. We spoke and made small talk and shortly thereafter she left. He asked me what did I think of her, and I replied, you paid her so much that she never even solicited me for any of my money! LOL, I just keep it real. I have no reason to lie, I am more than happy with what Parque Botero offers and I have no hate in my heart for guys who spend so much money that the girl forgets to ask the really rich man in the room does he want a date!! So with that being said, money will not make you comfortable in Poblado and living and socializing in Centro does not make you poor, but carry on board members, the money posts are keeping me entertained until I return! Pollo Negro is out![/QUOTE]To put it differently. Price is what you pay and value is what you get. The two are not always correlated. True in mongering as in many inefficient and opaque markets in life. Its each guys right to do as he wishes, but cultivating a good relationship with the chica and paying a fair price is a solid and sensible and arguably even safer way to monger. But yeah there are definitely mongers who fly in from NY pay the chica an ungodly (for Colombia) amount of money and have the effect of taking that chica out of commission for a few weeks. I know atleast one chica who is in that boat, she is not too high volume, but does it to augment her income as a house cleaner where she gets paid 80mil per day with 2-3 days work a week. We are more like friends now and when she tells me what some of these mongers paid, I tell her good for her as she got her payday. But as someone mentioned these chicas are such crappy budgeters, that even 7 Million will be gone in a month! And they are back. BTW that's what a monger just paid her for a week in Cartagena recently. Do the math and you realize the dude paid her what she would take more than 8months to earn in a week.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2520981]There are theories that the vaccines offer no protection for up to 8 months from the time you receive your dose. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Did you come across these theories in any credible journal, news report, medical website? An 8 months lag time twixt injection and protection would be a bummer for sure. I can't speak definitively, but here are two credible sources confirming just a brief, one to two weeks wait for immunity to kick in after being vaccinated, which is consistent with my recollection of mainstream news reports over the last month (BBC, NY Times). The CDC website doesn't seem to include any guidance on this in their FAQs.

1. "After the required doses, how long until it takes effect and provides protection? That happens "about a week after the second dose," says Naor Bar-Zeev, PhD, an associate professor of international health and vaccinology and deputy director of the International Vaccine Access Center at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. Once the second dose kicks in, both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines have shown in studies to be about 95% effective. " Source: [URL]https://www.verywellhealth.com/covid-19-vaccine-immunity-time-5091651[/URL].

2. "Pfizer and BioNTech's vaccine offers immunity at least seven days after the second dose, and Moderna's vaccine offers immunity at least 14 days after the second dose. " Source: US Food and Drug Administration Briefing Document, (Pfizer, Dec. 10,2020:[URL]https://www.fda.gov/media/144245/download[/URL] ; Moderna, Dec. 17,2020: [URL]https://www.fda.gov/media/144434/download.[/URL].

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2521044]Well there is the view that centro chicas will get more down and dirty as well.[/QUOTE]Not sure exactly what you mean by "down and dirty", but I know a lot of Chica's, regardless of where and how encountered, will get "down and dirty" if that say is bare-backing or anal, and will do so depending on how much there going to be paid, and any past history / comfort level with the guy.

I think what your eluding to is, how prevalent and / or easy would it be for a guys looking for Chicas who will get down and dirty in El Centro.

Anything and everything goes in El Centro for a price. And given the dire straits a lot of the Chicas are in who work there, some of them will do just about anything under the sun, but not all of them. And there are so many Chicas working, with many other Chicas they have to compete with for clients, that a guy looking for down and dirty Chicas will have no problem finding them there.

I remember interviewing a Venezuelan a while back in Centro and was quoted 30 K. Out of curiosity I asked her how much to bare back her, and was told no problem but it would cost more.

And upon asking how much I was told only 5 K more.

I see good looking Brazlilian girls and Colombian / Venzuelan frequent on the escortsites in Europe. They can just enter with a Tourist-visa.

Then salaries are, before / after Corona not that high, since competition is fierce.

My prepago-friends in Colombia would love to do porn, if not exposed in Colombia, with is it sooner or later it often does.

A really sexy pornmodel can make 1000-2000 uro / scen, even 3000/ scen in Europe, according to ads. At Sexyjobs, plus expenes fare travelling and hotel. A session with a regular John might be 200 uro - 30-50% to the house / mamasan.

After doing porn she can have her own Onlyfan, fancentro etc. Accounts. Markets for de luxe escorts have got a completely new type of competition!

Really awesome girls, often Czech, Hungarians, Romanians, can, despite of their stunningly appearances, just be number +1000 or higher at xvideos ranking, and +100-+200 in their own rather small countries.

These girls sems to be short-lived in the industry at the high-end paying market, just a few months or years and then most of them are gone, hardly ever noticed, so their anxiety for being discovered in Colombia / Venezuela or Brazil is probably much more paranoia than reality!

Their real problem is instead their lack of common-knowledge and in particular absence of even of basic English.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2521039]I agree to an extent. And initially this is what I thought as well since poblado is filled with tourists.

3 people I know got drugged. They were all in more local areas. None in poblado.

One that got drugged was at Farenheit. Which is known for after hours parties.

The friend who was robbed was in centro.

I think in Poblado the crooked cops are the main concern.

And while I do believe you can definitely get drugged and robbed in Poblado the presence of police at night makes it somewhat of a deterrent.

Maybe I am wrong with my assessment of crimes vs mongers in medellin. For me personally Poblado is clearly a safer area than centro.[/QUOTE]Those that target foreigners will be operating where the foreigners are. I know several monger types that have been drugged in Poblado. And know of a few that were murdered in Poblado and Laureles. Because that's where they were, and the people that targeted them know where they are. I suspect that you are much more likely to have something put in your drink in Parque Lleras than anywhere downtown. You are more likely to have a couple or three guys follow you and try to roll you for what you have on you in Centro.

So for walking around having a stroll. Probably Poblado is safer, again depending on where you are, time of day. As for partying in a bar with a couple of chicas who seem to think you are great and want to party hard. Poblado, parque Lleras. Police there have said it is very dangerous. Guys are getting scoped lots, some end up od'd and dead. So never let your drink out of your sight, don't accept open drinks from strangers, don't go home with a couple of chicas after having a few drinks.

Doesn't make centro safer. It's just in Centro it's more likely to be a crime of opportunity. They see you, that's the opportunity.

I haven't verified this info, but going by the look and sound of things, the lock-down must be over. There is more activity, people, and traffic outside my hotel window in the last 30 minutes than the entire time I have been here, arrived Saturday night.

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I believe it's helpful to repeat this advice from time to time.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2521100]Those that target foreigners will be operating where the foreigners are. I know several monger types that have been drugged in Poblado. And know of a few that were murdered in Poblado and Laureles. Because that's where they were, and the people that targeted them know where they are. I suspect that you are much more likely to have something put in your drink in Parque Lleras than anywhere downtown. You are more likely to have a couple or three guys follow you and try to roll you for what you have on you in Centro.

So for walking around having a stroll. Probably Poblado is safer, again depending on where you are, time of day. As for partying in a bar with a couple of chicas who seem to think you are great and want to party hard. Poblado, parque Lleras. Police there have said it is very dangerous. Guys are getting scoped lots, some end up od'd and dead. So never let your drink out of your sight, don't accept open drinks from strangers, don't go home with a couple of chicas after having a few drinks.

Doesn't make centro safer. It's just in Centro it's more likely to be a crime of opportunity. They see you, that's the opportunity.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2520981]There are theories that the vaccines offer no protection for up to 8 months from the time you receive your dose. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?[/QUOTE]With Pfizer, there was a 52% reduction inn your chances of getting Covid three weeks after getting the first shot. You get the second injection three weeks later and the data showed that your risk of Covid went down by 95% two weeks after getting that shot.

With the Moderna vaccine, you get a 80 to 85% reduction in expectation of catching Covid for four weeks. When you get your second injection four weeks after the first, the reduction in getting Covid goes to 95% after two more weeks.

I got the Moderna vaccine yesterday. Based on the data, I think my leaving 5 to 6 weeks after getting this first injection is the most rational course, but I am leaving a day after the second shot because I am an inpatient and horny motherfucker who thinks an 80% or so reduction is good enough.

As far as eight months out or later, shit, the amount of data available is so tiny that I would not trust anything anybody said on that.

Bulevar Botero a couple of doors away is the same routine. I recently discovered there are long term residents on its upper floor. I think that explains how it remained open during the entire four month lockdown. I found it very helpful.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2521040]I remember a lot of you guys mentioning that hotel. It was actually the girl with the other BM that wanted it because she didn't have cedula and we were literally outside of it. I know what you mean by the lookers but I feel even without the language you'll either get good vibes or not from a girl and that's what I normally go with. We were about to head back so I literally just grabbed the venny quickly as she was already outside the hotel and I was sex starved for the last few days, but yeah as with a lot of them dumb as rock she could have earned a nice propina.

I've been talking to a few of them via translator on what's app over the last few days. I know I'll get good service from them because they have good attitudes and I get good vibes from them and I've already made it clear exactly what I want and they've promised to deliver, let's see.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2521051]To put it differently. Price is what you pay and value is what you get. The two are not always correlated. True in mongering as in many inefficient and opaque markets in life. Its each guys right to do as he wishes, but cultivating a good relationship with the chica and paying a fair price is a solid and sensible and arguably even safer way to monger. But yeah there are definitely mongers who fly in from NY pay the chica an ungodly (for Colombia) amount of money and have the effect of taking that chica out of commission for a few weeks. I know atleast one chica who is in that boat, she is not too high volume, but does it to augment her income as a house cleaner where she gets paid 80mil per day with 2-3 days work a week. We are more like friends now and when she tells me what some of these mongers paid, I tell her good for her as she got her payday. But as someone mentioned these chicas are such crappy budgeters, that even 7 Million will be gone in a month! And they are back. BTW that's what a monger just paid her for a week in Cartagena recently. Do the math and you realize the dude paid her what she would take more than 8months to earn in a week.[/QUOTE]True that about budgets and planning, they have none, they get back to their family and friends and boyfriends and whatever they have it is gone.

You give them 2 mil and it is gone in 2 minutes.

You give 20 mil and its gone in 20 minutes.

You give 200 mil and it is gone in 2 hours.

You give 2,000,000 and it is gone in 2 days.

Bottom line no matter what they have it is gone quickly and 2 days later they are begging for pesos and willing to suck and fuck for 20 mil as they are hard up. But gawd we love these barrio paisa pussy.

The Tall Man.

Can someone tell me if I need a hard copy or if a pdf file on my phone is sufficient?

The lockdown was scheduled to end at midnight, yes. I'm not sure why there is so much confusion about the schedule. A couple of guys asked about the sign on the front door of one of the punter palaces someone photographed and posted. It listed the beginning and end of the lockdown in Spanish and English.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2521122]I haven't verified this info, but going by the look and sound of things, the lock-down must be over. There is more activity, people, and traffic outside my hotel window in the last 30 minutes than the entire time I have been here, arrived Saturday night.


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[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2521179]Can someone tell me if I need a hard copy or if a pdf file on my phone is sufficient?[/QUOTE]Carry both in the event your phone takes a dump!

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2521179]Can someone tell me if I need a hard copy or if a pdf file on my phone is sufficient?[/QUOTE]Phone is sufficient.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2521162]True that about budgets and planning, they have none, they get back to their family and friends and boyfriends and whatever they have it is gone.
Bottom line no matter what they have it is gone quickly and 2 days later they are begging for pesos and willing to suck and fuck for 20 mil as they are hard up. But gawd we love these barrio paisa pussy.The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Yes very true indeed, they get some money, and no matter what the amount, poof it's gone quickly. You talk about living hand to mouth, it was hard for me to even imagine this after becoming aware of it, and now with the Pandemic, I don't know how many of them even get by.

One Chica I knew told me that when she got money, she would always give some to her Mom to hold onto for future rent and / or utilities because if she didn't, the money would be gone in a heartbeat.

BREAKING: CDC requiring a negative Covid-19 test for all air passengers entering the USA Starting on Jan. 26.

"Air passengers are required to get a viral test (a test for current infection) within the 3 days before their flight to the USA Departs," the CDC says in a statement.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2521290]BREAKING: CDC requiring a negative Covid-19 test for all air passengers entering the USA Starting on Jan. 26.

"Air passengers are required to get a viral test (a test for current infection) within the 3 days before their flight to the USA Departs," the CDC says in a statement.[/QUOTE]So this would literally wipe out weekend visitors.

New life. Amazing line up, some real stunners but here's the thing, I always choose a girl based on the vibe I get, eye contact and smile etc. Choose a decent looking girl not the best looking there, she thick with big naturals.

Straight away real GF experience, smiley friendly and relaxing, so sweet. Really enjoyed the session. So far new life best casa.

Took a walk around centro, its overwhelming and I want to try a strip club girl. I go to grill avenida nueve again and this is where things get interesting.

1st beer not feeling it with the girls there. Then a tall big built chocolate girl walks by, I don't like tall girls but I straight away get that vibe, OK what have I got to lose. Sometimes I have to go with instinct.

Order some drinks, more girls are coming in, some real lookers. My tall girl is so sweet and nice and really wants to communicate with me via translator, I find some working girls don't have the patience.

Then she does something which is normally an instant red card offence but I let it slide, another round comes out of nowhere, I tell her it's not cool.

She wants to make love as she says, I ask if she does anal 'I love anal' the deal is sealed. We go to the room, which is like a trap door through the DJ booth. In the room, total GFE from the first second then all of a sudden she almost swallows my cock and balls whole without a rubber, this is going to be fun.

I'm smashing her like crazy and she's trembling the whole time, every now and then she deep throats me.

Then I start smashing her back door and she loves it. Oh I'm in heaven with this girl. What a session. It's almost time for me to finish and I want to jerk off over her tits, I'm sure she'll protest like the street walker but no she starts sucking on my cock as I'm jerking off.

She deepthroating me trying to make me cum, is this really happening? I'm about to blow and her mouth is wide open, I pull her head forward and dump the load in La boca, she licks her lips and keeps thanking me, my god this girl is different gravy.

Back to the floor and she keeps thanking me saying she loves me, I give her 10 k propina and she's over the moon. Total including tip 90 k. What's app number taken, Wow, I still can't believe it. I love this place.

Time to go back out.

I smell another Centro rat.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2521298]New life. Amazing line up, some real stunners but here's the thing, I always choose a girl based on the vibe I get, eye contact and smile etc. Choose a decent looking girl not the best looking there, she thick with big naturals.

Straight away real GF experience, smiley friendly and relaxing, so sweet. Really enjoyed the session. So far new life best casa.

Took a walk around centro, its overwhelming and I want to try a strip club girl. I go to grill avenida nueve again and this is where things get interesting.

1st beer not feeling it with the girls there. Then a tall big built chocolate girl walks by, I don't like tall girls but I straight away get that vibe, OK what have I got to lose. Sometimes I have to go with instinct.

Order some drinks, more girls are coming in, some real lookers. My tall girl is so sweet and nice and really wants to communicate with me via translator, I find some working girls don't have the patience.

Then she does something which is normally an instant red card offence but I let it slide, another round comes out of nowhere, I tell her it's not cool..[/QUOTE]

It's hard to find that type of work ethic nowadays.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2521298]New life. Amazing line up, some real stunners but here's the thing, I always choose a girl based on the vibe I get, eye contact and smile etc. Choose a decent looking girl not the best looking there, she thick with big naturals.

Straight away real GF experience, smiley friendly and relaxing, so sweet. Really enjoyed the session. So far new life best casa.

Took a walk around centro, its overwhelming and I want to try a strip club girl. I go to grill avenida nueve again and this is where things get interesting.

1st beer not feeling it with the girls there. Then a tall big built chocolate girl walks by, I don't like tall girls but I straight away get that vibe, OK what have I got to lose. Sometimes I have to go with instinct.

Order some drinks, more girls are coming in, some real lookers. My tall girl is so sweet and nice and really wants to communicate with me via translator, I find some working girls don't have the patience.

Then she does something which is normally an instant red card offence but I let it slide, another round comes out of nowhere, I tell her it's not cool.

She wants to make love as she says, I ask if she does anal 'I love anal' the deal is sealed. We go to the room, which is like a trap door through the DJ booth. In the room, total GFE from the first second then all of a sudden she almost swallows my cock and balls whole without a rubber, this is going to be fun.

I'm smashing her like crazy and she's trembling the whole time, every now and then she deep throats me.

Then I start smashing her back door and she loves it. Oh I'm in heaven with this girl. What a session. It's almost time for me to finish and I want to jerk off over her tits, I'm sure she'll protest like the street walker but no she starts sucking on my cock as I'm jerking off.

She deepthroating me trying to make me cum, is this really happening? I'm about to blow and her mouth is wide open, I pull her head forward and dump the load in La boca, she licks her lips and keeps thanking me, my god this girl is different gravy.

Back to the floor and she keeps thanking me saying she loves me, I give her 10 k propina and she's over the moon. Total including tip 90 k. What's app number taken, Wow, I still can't believe it. I love this place.

Time to go back out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2520981]There are theories that the vaccines offer no protection for up to 8 months from the time you receive your dose. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?[/QUOTE]You misspelled "speculation. " A theory is something completely different.

I would question such speculation.

1. No vaccine has been around for 8 months, so no determination of an 8 month lag in effectiveness could have been found.

2. The vaccine manufacturers are reporting up to 95% protection from infection. If there is an 8 month lag, within about 3 months, each of them will be defendants in a class action lawsuit which could run into the trillions.

3. Independent testing confirms the vaccine effectiveness. It didn't take 8 months to confirm the pharmaceutical companies test results.

There will almost certainly be individuals who will not be protected by the vaccine. There will be some who will be partially protected and who will be fully protected after contracting a milder case of Covid. There may even be some who won't achieve full protection for 8 months. However, the majority who receive both doses should have immunity within 2 weeks after the second dose.

[QUOTE=AmoMedellin;2521082]I see good looking Brazlilian girls and Colombian / Venzuelan frequent on the escortsites in Europe. They can just enter with a Tourist-visa.

Then salaries are, before / after Corona not that high, since competition is fierce.

My prepago-friends in Colombia would love to do porn, if not exposed in Colombia, with is it sooner or later it often does.

A really sexy pornmodel can make 1000-2000 uro / scen, even 3000/ scen in Europe, according to ads. At Sexyjobs, plus expenes fare travelling and hotel. A session with a regular John might be 200 uro - 30-50% to the house / mamasan.

After doing porn she can have her own Onlyfan, fancentro etc. Accounts. Markets for de luxe escorts have got a completely new type of competition!

Really awesome girls, often Czech, Hungarians, Romanians, can, despite of their stunningly appearances, just be number +1000 or higher at xvideos ranking, and +100-+200 in their own rather small countries.

These girls sems to be short-lived in the industry at the high-end paying market, just a few months or years and then most of them are gone, hardly ever noticed, so their anxiety for being discovered in Colombia / Venezuela or Brazil is probably much more paranoia than reality!

Their real problem is instead their lack of common-knowledge and in particular absence of even of basic English.[/QUOTE]I would recommend doing a lot more research before making any recommendations to your Paisa friends for anything of the sort. Promises are easier to make than to keep and not everyone in the porn business is 100% honest.

As for the chance of being discovered in their home country, it's not paranoia. One webcam model I worked with was discovered by a cousin of her husband, in less than 3 months. He first tried to blackmail her and then showed screenshots to the family.

Another that I know was discovered by a guy who had a crush on her in school. He tried blackmail and bullying and sent screenshots to her mother. Then there was the model about 4 years ago who jumped off the crosswalk in front of a Metro train after some guy was blackmailing and bullying her.

Although her family all knows what she does, my old roommate ran into a problem with a user who managed to find all of her private social media accounts, which she just uses for family and friends. He found out she had a boyfriend and went off the deep end. Made a lot of threats before finally going away.

The better agencies warn the girls of the risks and help to prepare them for when it happens. This includes how to tell the family what you're doing and how to deal with the bullies and the rest. I sat through an interesting lecture by the Medellin head of the national police where he explained to webcam models what legal recourse they had for those situations.

So anyway, about the question. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2521305]You misspelled "speculation. " A theory is something completely different.

I would question such speculation.

1. No vaccine has been around for 8 months, so no determination of an 8 month lag in effectiveness could have been found.

2. The vaccine manufacturers are reporting up to 95% protection from infection. If there is an 8 month lag, within about 3 months, each of them will be defendants in a class action lawsuit which could run into the trillions.

3. Independent testing confirms the vaccine effectiveness. It didn't take 8 months to confirm the pharmaceutical companies test results.

There will almost certainly be individuals who will not be protected by the vaccine. There will be some who will be partially protected and who will be fully protected after contracting a milder case of Covid. There may even be some who won't achieve full protection for 8 months. However, the majority who receive both doses should have immunity within 2 weeks after the second dose.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2521300]I smell another Centro rat.[/QUOTE]I called it after his first post, and the truth of the matter is, there's not many rats on this board. Maybe it's a gene thing, and your just born that way, like a duck taking to water. I had such high hopes for our former "rat candidate", but he didn't pan out, as he couldn't seem to fully come out of the closet. Hopefully he will do better in the jungles in Africa.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2521298]New life. Amazing line up, some real stunners but here's the thing, I always choose a girl based on the vibe I get, eye contact and smile etc. Choose a decent looking girl not the best looking there, she thick with big naturals.

Straight away real GF experience, smiley friendly and relaxing, so sweet. Really enjoyed the session. So far new life best casa.

Took a walk around centro, its overwhelming and I want to try a strip club girl. I go to grill avenida nueve again and this is where things get interesting.

1st beer not feeling it with the girls there. Then a tall big built chocolate girl walks by, I don't like tall girls but I straight away get that vibe, OK what have I got to lose. Sometimes I have to go with instinct.

Order some drinks, more girls are coming in, some real lookers. My tall girl is so sweet and nice and really wants to communicate with me via translator, I find some working girls don't have the patience.

Then she does something which is normally an instant red card offence but I let it slide, another round comes out of nowhere, I tell her it's not cool..[/QUOTE]So did she swallow, or spit it out, and if she swallowed, you found a keeper!

Your like a kid in a candy shop, which I can totally relate too. Your in heaven, and literally anything goes.

[QUOTE=Combo;2521302]It's hard to find that type of work ethic nowadays.[/QUOTE]Rarely do newcomers to Medellin who have never been here before and must rely on a translator hit the ground running and loving it all the way!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2520981]There are theories that the vaccines offer no protection for up to 8 months from the time you receive your dose. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?[/QUOTE]I've just recovered from it, and it wasn't all that. I'm late 50's high bmi, blood pressure and history of asthma. And it still wasn't all that for me, I could of got lucky I suppose.

I'm going to take the vaccine in a few weeks when its offered. Apparently for people who've had it, the response to the vaccine is very very good indeed. Training those antibodies I guess.

Also, who is telling you 8 months? Sounds like BS to me.

Really looking foward to going back to MDE or CTG ASAP. When the girls are back.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2521290]BREAKING: CDC requiring a negative Covid-19 test for all air passengers entering the USA Starting on Jan. 26.

"Air passengers are required to get a viral test (a test for current infection) within the 3 days before their flight to the USA Departs," the CDC says in a statement.[/QUOTE]The CDC can't require anything but they can suggest. It's the Department of State and all government entities under it that can require any measures.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2521290]BREAKING: CDC requiring a negative Covid-19 test for all air passengers entering the USA Starting on Jan. 26.

"Air passengers are required to get a viral test (a test for current infection) within the 3 days before their flight to the USA Departs," the CDC says in a statement.[/QUOTE]Damn they fucked everyone over now, now we got to find covid testing in 3rd world countries or we can't come back to America. Fkkk.

I have no problem getting a test to get in to Colombia but arranging one to get out could be more difficult.

It will be interesting to see how things develop in the next few weeks, I really don't want to cancel my Feb trip.

Anyone know where to get a reliable Covid test in MDE LOL?

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2521298]Took a walk around centro, its overwhelming and I want to try a strip club girl. She deepthroating me trying to make me cum, is this really happening? I'm about to blow and her mouth is wide open, I pull her head forward and dump the load in La boca, she licks her lips and keeps thanking me, my god this girl is different gravy.[/QUOTE]Hey man. Take your ass back to Poblado. Don't be starting no bad habits.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2521013]Good hotel choice Zona Rosa, it's my go to Hotel and the room you were in has a good view of the courtyard of the Veracruz Church. You were in my favorite room which I have probably been in at least 100 times over the last four years. I prefer this Hotel over Premier Plaza due to it's more obscure entrance. As far as the Vennie, what a piece of shit trying to upsell you and then ask for a propina. If she had had any brains she would of done what you requested and earned a tip. I know your Spanish skills are limited as you previously mentioned and it can be challenging not being able to interview and converse with the girls but don't despair you will find some nice girls. What I can tell you though is don't get to wrapped up in the lookers, they think their shit doesn't stink and typically give shitty service.[/QUOTE]I walked and consulted my map for Hotel Zona Rosa at CL. 51 #50-51, but I did not find it. Maybe I was experiencing GPS lag. I tried to only pull out my phone when I would duck into a store. I was paying close attention to everyone around me, so it was more difficult to always notice the signs with street numbers.

I took the metro for the first time and ended up getting the deed for 30 k +8 k tip and 6 k room at Hotel Cascade. She was a 23 yr morena with very large senos and some baby damage. Just did the deed and at towards the end when I was trying to finish manually, she hopped back on. For a while there was a nice view in front of me and no cover. Then I finished manually.

Then I met someone from Ohio and hung out with him for a while. He was taller and was wearing shorts so I suddenly noticed much more attention and higher prices. I told him to make an offer instead of asking how much. He ignored this and received offers of 50 k for some young cuties. We walked into a bar and he received offers of 40 k for a Bucaramangese, 46 for her friend.

Then we headed over to the Avenida de Greiff area and had a beer after perusing what was available. He went upstairs with someone after a while and ended up getting upsold to 150 k. He was staying in town for a short time and had more budget. So he did not care. We headed out of the De Grieff area at a bit after 7 pm in a taxi to parque Lleras.

I had never been to Poblado or parque Lleras, so this was a new experience. We met up with another gringo from Ohio that recognized the other gringos shirt with a football team. I felt the hard sell at LLeras and I think I might prefer el centro. I tried to speak with some of the chicas and felt like it was often always be closing. Also, a bit more mental games like girls telling me translate when I understand almost everything they say and I can speak well.

The first gringo departed and the other asked me if I wanted to go to Gustos. That the cover was 10 k. I was dressed down for centro and was getting low on funds because I had not planned on this. So, I entered the club anyway. Virtually no masks, but many of the chicas out in the park were not wearing masks either. I did see some good looking women and some tall women as well which I like. I think what I would have enjoyed the most is dancing with the chicas. So, I called it a night and headed back home in a taxi.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2521376]Hey man. Take your ass back to Poblado. Don't be starting no bad habits.[/QUOTE]The person I met after doing the deed in centro was interested in going to New Life, but it seemed like it would take a while to walk there. If you are not embellishing, I might need to head over and find out. Oral al natural, garganta profunda, termine en la boca. Who was this chica? I want to know.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2520981]There are theories that the vaccines offer no protection for up to 8 months from the time you receive your dose.[/QUOTE]Knowledge,

I gave you the wrong answer. Moderna first started giving the vaccine way back in March 2020 in their first study, and the people showed an immune response two weeks later. Moderna just released a statement saying their virus provides protection for at least one year.

There is no evidence, zero, the vaccine only works for eight months.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2521317]So anyway, about the question. Are guys planning to wait 8 months after they are vaccinated to relieve the blue balls? Asking for a friend who lives in Medellin?[/QUOTE]Why wait? No drug companies have announced the vaccine protection will last forever.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2521298]New life. Amazing line up, some real stunners but here's the thing, I always choose a girl based on the vibe I get, eye contact and smile etc. Choose a decent looking girl not the best looking there, she thick with big naturals.

Straight away real GF experience, smiley friendly and relaxing, so sweet. Really enjoyed the session. So far new life best casa.

Took a walk around centro, its overwhelming and I want to try a strip club girl. I go to grill avenida nueve again and this is where things get interesting.

1st beer not feeling it with the girls there. Then a tall big built chocolate girl walks by, I don't like tall girls but I straight away get that vibe, OK what have I got to lose. Sometimes I have to go with instinct.

Order some drinks, more girls are coming in, some real lookers. My tall girl is so sweet and nice and really wants to communicate with me via translator, I find some working girls don't have the patience..[/QUOTE]Yes your black gal experience at the strip club (I think I know the girl you session-ed with), love it and the thing is that these off the chart sex escapades happen more times than not, like you did you just need a little patience and observation and selection then bamn and you have memories to last well until the next one.

I know some of the doorman there as we have been friends for some years now when they use to work at another strip club, well I have photos of just about every gal that works there, I promised never to share these photos with anyone, but to the story we are setting up a 3 or 4 day finca party in the coming weeks and we will have a half dozen of the girls for the whole weekend of sexcapades and debauchery, hehehehe and your tall black girl will probably be the leader of the pack. Gawd I love Medellin!

The Tall Man.

That is a reasonable question. Thus far I have not noticed consistently reasonable approaches to managing the virus and enjoyment of life amongst us. I've read about the high risk of being with providers but not so much about visiting big box retailers or using public transportation. Multiple millions of cases world wide make me question how many of them could have been avoided through abstinence.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2521448]Why wait? No drug companies have announced the vaccine protection will last forever.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2521368]Damn they fucked everyone over now, now we got to find covid testing in 3rd world countries or we can't come back to America. Fkkk[/QUOTE]I bet getting a test in Medellin is cheaper and as easy (or as difficult) as in USA (well, easy or difficult depends on *where* you are in USA: in vast areas the quality of health assistance is not as high as in Medellin).

That cannot be a problem. The problem will be if you test positive and you are in Medellin! I suggest to make plans for all cases. I really miss how people could even consider to travel overseas in this situation.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2521353]The CDC can't require anything but they can suggest. It's the Department of State and all government entities under it that can require any measures.[/QUOTE]OK, The CDC did put an order in place for COVID test requirements for international air travel to the United States. Here is the complete information about that order. Read it over thoroughly.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Moso2;2521378]I walked and consulted my map for Hotel Zona Rosa at CL. 51 #50-51, but I did not find it. [/QUOTE]I think it is the one across the street of the white church with a door to the second floor.

In the last 3 years, an increasing number of blue collar guys, and / or high school graduates (or dropouts), came to or stayed in El Centro. Though many of them are nice and decent guys. They were disliked by locals, and they had many troubles with locals.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2520900]The truth of the matter is that the Centro rats on this board are probably the most wealthy members of this group and some them do live in Poblado Penthouses and source 30 K dates from El Centro. Perhaps this is conceptually hard for many to relate to in that why would a guy living in a luxury Penthouse go on 30 K dates?[/QUOTE]

There were two books I have read about someone providing a supposed cure after making others sick and who looked like a savior. The reason I bring this up is because the vaccine is almost too damned good for Covid. [URL]https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article[/URL]#.

When you do a trial like Moderna did with this vaccine, half the people get the vaccine, and the other half get salt water (placebo) injections. Here was a result that caused my jaw to drop:

Thirty participants in the trial had severe Covid-19; all 30 were in the placebo group (indicating vaccine efficacy of 100% and one death among these participants was attributed to Covid-19 .

If you go to the table here, you can see how quickly the vaccine works: [URL]https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article[/URL]#.

It appears that the vaccine provides protection 14 days after you get your first shot.

The study to get the vaccine approved did not mention antibodies, but other doctors did a study and the results are here: [URL]https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article[/URL]#.

Now let me go back to the original article and you can see what all Covid can do. It is not just the runny nose, fever, and body aches.

A secondary end point was the efficacy of mRNA-1273 in the prevention of severe Covid-19 as defined by one of the following criteria: respiratory rate of 30 or more breaths per minute; heart rate at or exceeding 125 beats per minute; oxygen saturation at 93% or less while the participant was breathing ambient air at sea level or a ratio of the partial pressure of oxygen to the fraction of inspired oxygen below 300 mm Hg; respiratory failure; acute respiratory distress syndrome; evidence of shock (systolic blood pressure <90 mm Hg, diastolic blood pressure <60 mm Hg, or a need for vasopressors); clinically significant acute renal, hepatic, or neurologic dysfunction; admission to an intensive care unit; or death.

Even that list is not all inclusive of what Covid can do.

A buddy of mine went to the hospital. He had an intestinal problem and was coughing. He was diagnosed with blood clots in his lungs and an ileus where your gut does not move food down the tract like it should. He was checked for Covid 4 times, and all the tests were negative. 9 out of 10 times a blood clot in the lungs comes from the legs, but he had no clots in the legs. With Covid, only 5 in 10 people have clots comes in their legs. He said he was exposed to people 5 to 7 days before who may have had Covid, and he is convinced that all of his problems were due to Covid, and I cannot say he is wrong.

Truth is that given that Covid causes blood clots, it can affect any organ in the body. How many heart attacks or strokes were related to Covid and people were not tested or tested falsely negative? As bad as people said Covid was, it is actually even worse.

Moderna started testing back in March and the people who got the shots then still have elevated antibodies and are now saying the vaccine works for at least a year.

As for getting the vaccine in Colombia, it is not good news. [URL]https://thebogotapost.com/colombias-tense-wait-for-the-covid-19-vaccine/48357/[/URL].

When will Colombia get the COVID-19 vaccine?

No-one can say. Colombia's President Duque announced that vaccination would start in January, but the minister of health says that "no date is set" and that there are no final deals with vaccine suppliers.

Anyway, if you are thinking of going to Colombia like I am, waiting five weeks after the first vaccine injection and going is the smart thing but even waiting two weeks gives you a lot of protection.

One last thing: I mentioned the oral PCR test so if you are going to Colombia, you can use it versus the swab up your nose. I thought it would take 7 to 10 days to get the package. Actually, it came in two. The company says the oral PCR turnaround is 24 hours once you send them a sample.

With coming back to the USA, you need a negative Covid test as well, but you can get the antigen test and that only takes 15 minutes to run. It is not the logistical nightmare the PCR test is.

Y'all stay safe. Things suck right now, but if these vaccine works as well as advertised, maybe in 2022, we can put this shit in the rearview mirror.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2521570]I think it is the one across the street of the white church with a door to the second floor.[/QUOTE]It's obscured by trees in front, if your looking at the Hotel from the Church towards the Metro, there is a large restaurant directly to the right of it on the passageway toward the Metro. There is an entrance with a flight of stairs leading up to the office and typically there will be a ton of vennies hanging in front of the entrance.

[QUOTE=MongerHunger;2521353]The CDC can't require anything but they can suggest. It's the Department of State and all government entities under it that can require any measures.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the CDC got around that.

If a passenger chooses not to provide a test result or documentation of recovery, the airline must deny boarding to the passenger.

I understand the rationale for doing this, but this kind of pisses me off. You have government or really a psuedogovernment agency making private companies be responsible for implementing government policies, and they do this shit all the time. In effect, the CDC is now making law.

But it is what it is.

[QUOTE=SilverTurtle;2521576]In the last 3 years, an increasing number of blue collar guys, and / or high school graduates (or dropouts), came to or stayed in El Centro. Though many of them are nice and decent guys. They were disliked by locals, and they had many troubles with locals.[/QUOTE]Explain, what kind of issues did these guys have while staying in El Centro?

What is happening? It is starting to rain Centro rats!

[QUOTE=Moso2;2521378]I walked and consulted my map for Hotel Zona Rosa at CL. 51 #50-51, but I did not find it. Maybe I was experiencing GPS lag. I tried to only pull out my phone when I would duck into a store. I was paying close attention to everyone around me, so it was more difficult to always notice the signs with street numbers.

I took the metro for the first time and ended up getting the deed for 30 k +8 k tip and 6 k room at Hotel Cascade. She was a 23 yr morena with very large senos and some baby damage. Just did the deed and at towards the end when I was trying to finish manually, she hopped back on. For a while there was a nice view in front of me and no cover. Then I finished manually.

Then I met someone from Ohio and hung out with him for a while. He was taller and was wearing shorts so I suddenly noticed much more attention and higher prices. I told him to make an offer instead of asking how much. He ignored this and received offers of 50 k for some young cuties. We walked into a bar and he received offers of 40 k for a Bucaramangese, 46 for her friend.

Then we headed over to the Avenida de Greiff area and had a beer after perusing what was available. He went upstairs with someone after a while and ended up getting upsold to 150 k. He was staying in town for a short time and had more budget. So he did not care. We headed out of the De Grieff area at a bit after 7 pm in a taxi to parque Lleras..[/QUOTE]

USA will require PCR test for entry beginning Jan 26.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2521582]There were two books I have read about someone providing a supposed cure after making others sick and who looked like a savior. The reason I bring this up is because the vaccine is almost too damned good for Covid. [URL]https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article[/URL]#.

When you do a trial like Moderna did with this vaccine, half the people get the vaccine, and the other half get salt water (placebo) injections. Here was a result that caused my jaw to drop:

Thirty participants in the trial had severe Covid-19; all 30 were in the placebo group (indicating vaccine efficacy of 100% and one death among these participants was attributed to Covid-19 .

If you go to the table here, you can see how quickly the vaccine works: [URL]https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article[/URL]#.

It appears that the vaccine provides protection 14 days after you get your first shot.

The study to get the vaccine approved did not mention antibodies, but other doctors did a study and the results are here: [URL]https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389?query=recirc_mostViewed_railB_article[/URL]#.

Now let me go back to the original article and you can see what all Covid can do. It is not just the runny nose, fever, and body aches...[/QUOTE]

I am more interested in how "blue collar" is defined.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2521612]Explain, what kind of issues did these guys have while staying in El Centro?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Moso2;2521378]I walked and consulted my map for Hotel Zona Rosa at CL. 51 #50-51, but I did not find it. i.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2521570]I think it is the one across the street of the white church with a door to the second floor.[/QUOTE]I did a little recon on Google Street Maps and found this. This could be very easy to miss if you were not playing close attention. The problem is that you have to be right in front of this place to see the sign. These images show why. Like Nounce said it is located across from the white church (Iglesia De La Veracruz). These images are from 2019 according to Google. If this information is still accurate then it is located on Avenida Carabobo AKA Carrera 52 it is the first entrance in the second builiding on the east side of Carrera 52 just north of Calle 51. From the corner of Carrera 52 and Calle 51 you would head north (slightly northeast) on Carrera 52 and it is going to be on the right (the white church is on the left at this point).

One image clearly shows the sign over the entrance. In one image I show the view from the corner looking north so that you can see the white church on the right I have a red arrow showing where the entrance is. In another image I show once you move north and get almost to the entrance, there is an arrow on this image also pointing out the entrance just to the left of the gold sign with black letters that say Entrada . I added another image that shows what the sign looks like coming from the other direction, this is the image that has a red awning in it, but again you have to be right up on the place to see that sign, any further away and the other awnings hide the sign as I show in another image.

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[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2521612]Explain, what kind of issues did these guys have while staying in El Centro?[/QUOTE]The issues / problems described in the original post were removed by the moderator. So, the context of my post changed a lot. I intended to say that many of them are good guys, but some people caused problems.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2521649]I did a little recon on Google Street Maps and found this. This could be very easy to miss if you were not playing close attention. The problem is that you have to be right in front of this place to see the sign. These images show why. Like Nounce said it is located across from the white church (Iglesia De La Veracruz). These images are from 2019 according to Google. If this information is still accurate then it is located on Avenida Carabobo AKA Carrera 52 it is the first entrance in the second builiding on the east side of Carrera 52 just north of Calle 51. From the corner of Carrera 52 and Calle 51 you would head north (slightly northeast) on Carrera 52 and it is going to be on the right (the white church is on the left at this point).

One image clearly shows the sign over the entrance. In one image I show the view from the corner looking north so that you can see the white church on the right I have a red arrow showing where the entrance is. In another image I show once you move north and get almost to the entrance, there is an arrow on this image also pointing out the entrance just to the left of the gold sign with black letters that say Entrada . I added another image that shows what the sign looks like coming from the other direction, this is the image that has a red awning in it, but again you have to be right up on the place to see that sign, any further away and the other awnings hide the sign as I show in another image.[/QUOTE]I find it hard to believe other members are having difficulty finding the place, in my opinion it can't be missed if somebody says it's in front of the Church you would think guys would obviously be able to distinguish the entrance to a Hotel versus the little shops on each side. If a guy can't find the place after what you have taken the time to prepare and post, they probably shouldn't be in that area to begin with.

I remember trying to find a "casa" once in a large City in China, and I don't remember the name of the City, and they don't call them casa's there, but there was very limited information on ISG as to the location of the casa or whatever they call it in Chinese. It was kind of like an Easter egg hunt, and I was within 25 yards of the entrance based on the ISG reports and finally found it seeing guys entering the place and there was no signage / numbers albeit I wouldn't of understood them in Chinese to begin with.

So you would think somebody looking for Zona Rosa, if they spent a little time there would of identified it when they saw guys walking into a place with Chicas. And they also could of easily asked someone where it's located as well.

Regardless, if anyone else can't find it with the information you have provided, they don't belong there.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2521625]What is happening? It is starting to rain Centro rats![/QUOTE]There must be a shortage of cats, that can be the only thing I can think of.

Its entrance is next to the very well marked entrance to Govinda vegetarian restaurant.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2521695]I find it hard to believe other members are having difficulty finding the place, in my opinion it can't be missed if somebody says it's in front of the Church you would think guys would obviously be able to distinguish the entrance to a Hotel versus the little shops on each side. If a guy can't find the place after what you have taken the time to prepare and post, they probably shouldn't be in that area to begin with.

I remember trying to find a "casa" once in a large City in China, and I don't remember the name of the City, and they don't call them casa's there, but there was very limited information on ISG as to the location of the casa or whatever they call it in Chinese. It was kind of like an Easter egg hunt, and I was within 25 yards of the entrance based on the ISG reports and finally found it seeing guys entering the place and there was no signage / numbers albeit I wouldn't of understood them in Chinese to begin with.

So you would think somebody looking for Zona Rosa, if they spent a little time there would of identified it when they saw guys walking into a place with Chicas. And they also could of easily asked someone where it's located as well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2521627]USA will require PCR test for entry beginning Jan 26.[/QUOTE]I only want to make sure that it is clear that the rapid test is the requirement because there's a big difference between a PCR test and an antigen test. The antigen test is the rapid test that is performed and the results are confirmed within 15 to 45 minutes of the test administration. A PCR test could require 3 to 5 days in order to complete depending on the time it takes for the center to ship the test to the lab. A PCR test is a lot harder to manage under a 3 day time period than a rapid test that is done in the same day at worst.

The PCR test requirement for Colombia is a lot harder to satisfy than the return trip test that the CDC / USA requires for entry onboard a return flight to the United States. That said, I do not know where you can find an antigen / rapid test in Colombia. If anyone knows or can confirm a few reliable options that would be great. If not, I'm asking friends and people I know in MDE for referrals to places where you can reliably get an antigen test for our return flights. Good luck everyone hopefully I can share reliable info.

My source is the CDC website here.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html[/URL]#text=On%20 January%2012%2 C%202021%2 C%20 CDC, airline%20 before%20 boarding%20 the%20 flight.

10 pm curfew and pico y cédula except restaurants and hotels.

Does anyone know if gyms have pico also?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2521728]10 pm curfew and pico y cdula except restaurants and hotels.

Does anyone know if gyms have pico also?[/QUOTE]Could someone confirm whether the holiday lockdown in MDE has been extended or not? Looks like in Bogota it starts again this Friday until Monday, citywide, and then extended in some neighborhoods. Is MDE any better? I have read a couple of articles which said there are currently no new movement restrictions or business closures until they assess the situation and come up with a new plan.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2521695]

Regardless, if anyone else can't find it with the information you have provided, they don't belong there.[/QUOTE]I like to leave no room for misunderstanding LOL and obviously I was bored and time on my hands.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2521590]Yeah, the CDC got around that.

If a passenger chooses not to provide a test result or documentation of recovery, the airline must deny boarding to the passenger.

I understand the rationale for doing this, but this kind of pisses me off. You have government or really a psuedogovernment agency making private companies be responsible for implementing government policies, and they do this shit all the time. In effect, the CDC is now making law.

But it is what it is.[/QUOTE]How about those who already got vaccine? I got my first dose of Pfizer-Biontec, getting the second dose in 2 weeks time. Do I also need to show a PCR test report?

Zux.

[URL]https://mobile.twitter.com/QuinteroCalle/status/1349497819376349186[/URL]

I'm in Medellin and what SangNyc21 said is correct. Curfew 10 pm-5 am starting this Thursday-Tuesday and can be extended. Pico why seeédula is pretty much a given for rest of January, that's what I would assume. On another note, I read on CDC that they require any negative viral test to enter USA so that includes antigen or pcr. Antigen test has much faster results (within 24 hrs). There are lots of places in Medellin that offer that. A place called Unidad Médica Centrolab in el centro offers it for 110 mil and domicilio for extra 13 mil and results within 24 hrs.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2521733]Could someone confirm whether the holiday lockdown in MDE has been extended or not? Looks like in Bogota it starts again this Friday until Monday, citywide, and then extended in some neighborhoods. Is MDE any better? I have read a couple of articles which said there are currently no new movement restrictions or business closures until they assess the situation and come up with a new plan.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2521649]I did a little recon on Google Street Maps and found this. This could be very easy to miss if you were not playing close attention. The problem is that you have to be right in front of this place to see the sign. These images show why. Like Nounce said it is located across from the white church (Iglesia De La Veracruz). These images are from 2019 according to Google. If this information is still accurate then it is located on Avenida Carabobo AKA Carrera 52 it is the first entrance in the second builiding on the east side of Carrera 52 just north of Calle 51. From the corner of Carrera 52 and Calle 51 you would head north (slightly northeast) on Carrera 52 and it is going to be on the right (the white church is on the left at this point).


These images are not loaded in the same order as they are described[/QUOTE]Govindas. That restaurant you can see the sign for in one of those pictures. Highly suggested! Fantastic Vegan food--unbelievably inexpensive. A great Lunch or early dinner with fun views overlooking the scene.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2521753]I'm in Medellin and what SangNyc21 said is correct. Curfew 10 pm-5 am starting this Thursday-Tuesday and can be extended. Pico why seedula is pretty much a given for rest of January, that's what I would assume. On another note, I read on CDC that they require any negative viral test to enter USA so that includes antigen or pcr. Antigen test has much faster results (within 24 hrs). There are lots of places in Medellin that offer that. A place called Unidad Mdica Centrolab in el centro offers it for 110 mil and domicilio for extra 13 mil and results within 24 hrs.[/QUOTE]I hear they are open even on curfew days til 2 am. Is this true?

And if so what happens if I'm in a cab at 2 am and run into a police checkpoint?

[QUOTE=LivingFossil;2521368]Damn they fucked everyone over now, now we got to find covid testing in 3rd world countries or we can't come back to America. Fkkk.

I have no problem getting a test to get in to Colombia but arranging one to get out could be more difficult.

It will be interesting to see how things develop in the next few weeks, I really don't want to cancel my Feb trip.

Anyone know where to get a reliable Covid test in MDE LOL?[/QUOTE]CentroLab cra 43 DD #8-56 ,220 cop results in 24 -48 hrs hope this helps everyone.

I have the form I can send to anyone that needs it (just change the date and your name etc).

Also if anyone can share an antigen results test form for exiting COL "that would be great".

Yes, taxistas have told me la isla is open even on curfew days, but I have not personally gone myself so I cannot give first hand knowledge whether it's open till 2 am. It's been years since I've hit a strip club, high end or low end. BTW, for reference purposes I'm def not a centro rat LOL, but I enjoy reading the centro stories here. Maybe one day I'll venture out again and hit the casas just to reminisce my virgin days in Medellin hitting New Life and shaking girls with sweaty ass hands (def turn off for me haha). Like Surfer or someone said, we all roll different and Medellíand can accommodate all types of mongers within legal means.

And yes, if you get caught out during curfew without a valid reason, you will face a fine. Think it's 800 mil+, but I have gone out before during curfew and haven't been caught yet LOL. Paying off police is my forte, so it is what it is.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2521756]I hear they are open even on curfew days til 2 am. Is this true?

And if so what happens if I'm in a cab at 2 am and run into a police checkpoint?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kamking1;2521748]How about those who already got vaccine? I got my first dose of Pfizer-Biontec, getting the second dose in 2 weeks time. Do I also need to show a PCR test report?

Zux.[/QUOTE]The order says all international passengers entering the US, not some passengers. Besides, the vaccine is not 100% effective. Why would they exempt vaccinations when this pertains to every international traveler including US citizens? Read the CDC order thoroughly, it's pretty specific.

From [URL]medellinguru.com[/URL].

Nightly Curfew in Medellin and Antioquia from January 14 to 19.

Medellin and all of Antioquia will have strict nightly curfews starting on January 14 to 19 on the following days:

January 14 – 10 pm to 5 am.

January 15– 10 pm to 5 am.

January 16 – 10 pm to 5 am.

January 17 – 10 pm to 5 am.

January 18 – 10 pm to 5 am.

January 19 – 10 pm to 5 am.

Also, Medellin and the other nine municipalities in the Aburrá Valley will continue Pico why Cedula starting at midnight on January 15, which restricts shopping days based on the last digit of your ID. The Pico why Cedula restriction applies for going to grocery shops, malls, small tiendas, pharmacies and also includes banking and notary services.

If your ID ends with an even number (0, 2, 4, 6, 8) you can go out shopping on even days of the week. And if your ID ends with an odd number (1, 3, 5, 7, 9) you can go out on odd days of the week.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2521753]I'm in Medellin and what SangNyc21 said is correct. Curfew 10 pm-5 am starting this Thursday-Tuesday and can be extended. Pico why seedula is pretty much a given for rest of January, that's what I would assume. On another note, I read on CDC that they require any negative viral test to enter USA so that includes antigen or pcr. Antigen test has much faster results (within 24 hrs). There are lots of places in Medellin that offer that. A place called Unidad Mdica Centrolab in el centro offers it for 110 mil and domicilio for extra 13 mil and results within 24 hrs.[/QUOTE]So. My take on the option of antigen vs. Pcr test.

The antigen test is to prove that you either had Covid already, and have some immunity to it, or you had a vaccine, and you have immunity to it. So the result on that would have to be positive.

The PCR is to test whether you have Covid. So the result would have to be negative for you to get on your plane back to US.

So. The antigen test would not help you unless it proves that you are immune. In other words the PCR test is really the only option.

It is not simply that you can take either test and get on the plane. A negative antigen test would be totally useless.

Last time I saw this chica she was new to the game and I bragged on here that she had the second tightest pussy I ever felt. I was her 3rd or 4th monger / mongerer back then, about a year ago, pre-Covid. Writing on the fly, she just left.

She's a solid Number 7 in my line-up. She has an unnatural attachment to me I think due to the timing and where her head was at the first time we fucked, at her house, while her mom and brother "went for a walk. " She had a full hot dinner plate cooked for me that was damn good and I ate it without hesitation.

She looks better now, she is taking more pride in her appearance otherwise known as it's a good business decision to make yourself look as attractive as possible when you are selling pussy, or ass, in her case. Who knows how many mongers she's fucked since I saw her, your guess is as good as mine and you may recognize her.

The Second Tightest Pussy award is no longer hers, but she still has a small tight pussy that can make me come even if I don't want to, and those are few and far between. Pussy pics to follow, I'm stacking them.

I helped her out from USA during COVID. Her mom kicked her out for not bringing in enough money with her pussy and fat ass. She had to get rid of her dog. She was traumatized as a result.

True to her word, so far she is giving it all back to me in pussy credits. She will, she is trying to think of extra ways to please me. Of course there were incidentals. I paid her taxi fare (dropped off by Uber, picked up by Uber) all I had were 50 mil notes so I tossed one at her. She showed up without a mask, I paid 5 mil for one on the street. She ordered Frisby's delivery for chicken and knew how to get a six pack of Coronas and a six pack of that other beer everyone drinks around here that starts with an "A," delivered super fast, and I gave her another 50 there.

What I got was she arrived at 6 PM, asked if she could stay all today ("No" Left at 7 AM this morning; Two bottles of Corona; four bites of Frisby's chicken (my fave chicken chain here); and the use of her body as my personal playground. Oh, I don't smoke pot but she took a hit and blew it in me during a kiss and I got high.

She was so high I would not take have taken her out in Public, plus she kept asking for "Three Crowns" and I thought she meant three shots of Crown Royal. She would have been unconscious if that were the case. Instead, she meant three Corona beers and she got those. I used my Pearl from last post, thinking she really would be unconscious, "Can I fuck you while you are asleep?" Still haven't gotten a no yet. Oh, and she sucks at blowjobs with too much of a gag reflex. I pinned her down face up and staddled her to fuck her face, she gagged, coughed and laughed instantly. We had a good laugh and I told her to get ready for her lessons starting next visit.

She has a friend who looks hot as fuck on video that she wants to bring in on a three-way. She looks fresh like she is just starting out. I will assume to be paying her half at the going rate.

I don't know about the status of the quarantine, it's not effecting how I roll. Crowds are big and normal again on Avenida 70 and chica last night got beer delivered to our room, I can't remember the time. I am easily going be able to use up my pussy credits with her, plus a lot of extra credit, and a good ROI.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2521844]So. The antigen test would not help you unless it proves that you are immune. [/QUOTE]Did you read the CDC announcement? I don't want to explain it wrong so I want to see your read on it.

My head started to hurt after thinking about what you wrote haha. I don't have a medical background, so I can't provide any feedback. Guess I'll have to do some research on this. I don't fly out till February (3 months stay is up). I got time.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2521844]So. My take on the option of antigen vs. Pcr test.

The antigen test is to prove that you either had Covid already, and have some immunity to it, or you had a vaccine, and you have immunity to it. So the result on that would have to be positive.

The PCR is to test whether you have Covid. So the result would have to be negative for you to get on your plane back to US.

So. The antigen test would not help you unless it proves that you are immune. In other words the PCR test is really the only option.

It is not simply that you can take either test and get on the plane. A negative antigen test would be totally useless.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2521868]My head started to hurt after thinking about what you wrote haha. I don't have a medical background, so I can't provide any feedback. Guess I'll have to do some research on this. I don't fly out till February (3 months stay is up). I got time.[/QUOTE]RiceRocket99 is correct in that the CDC order permits either a negative PCR or a negative antigen test to enter US on an airplane. Both of these tests, when negative, show that you are not currently infected with the virus. The antigen test is far preferable to PCR test because it is faster (some places in US you get the results in 15 minutes) and cheaper. Zeos1 appears to be confusing antigen tests with antibody tests. Antibody test is a blood test that looks for antibodies in your system that fought off the virus. Having a positive antibody test is good because it means that your virus infection / Covid case is behind you and so it is unlikely (though not impossible) that you will get re-infected. Said differently, a positive antibody test means that you have some level of natural immunity to the virus. The CDC order will not allow you to enter the US via airplane on the basis of a positive antibody test. Likewise, the order will not allow you to enter the US via airplane just on the basis that you have already been vaccinated.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2521844]So. My take on the option of antigen vs. Pcr test.

The antigen test is to prove that you either had Covid already, and have some immunity to it, or you had a vaccine, and you have immunity to it. So the result on that would have to be positive.

The PCR is to test whether you have Covid. So the result would have to be negative for you to get on your plane back to US.

So. The antigen test would not help you unless it proves that you are immune. In other words the PCR test is really the only option.

It is not simply that you can take either test and get on the plane. A negative antigen test would be totally useless.[/QUOTE]I had posted this previously. The CDC permits rapid testing or antigen. Antigen is the best test to take for purposes of getting on a plane to return home. It is on their website. If you're looking for a test that provides you more comfort then you should go with pcr. But, I only care about getting home so I will take the rapid test. Results in 15 to 45 minutes vs 3 to 5 days.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2521162]True that about budgets and planning, they have none, they get back to their family and friends and boyfriends and whatever they have it is gone.

You give them 2 mil and it is gone in 2 minutes.

You give 20 mil and its gone in 20 minutes.

You give 200 mil and it is gone in 2 hours.

You give 2,000,000 and it is gone in 2 days.

Bottom line no matter what they have it is gone quickly and 2 days later they are begging for pesos and willing to suck and fuck for 20 mil as they are hard up. But gawd we love these barrio paisa pussy.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Loved your examples, had not heard that one. Another way we say it, to a Colombiana money is like a gas, it occupies all the available space. I slipped my #2 Novia a 50, she goes to work for 12 hours, comes back, can't pay 2 mil for a cafe. I asked her, "What happened to the fifty I gave you yesterday?" "I spent it," she replies. "On what?" Inquiring minds want to know. "Cosas" (things). Jjajajajajaja. I tell her I never met a Colombiana who can save money, she readily agreed saying, "We're not like that. " I tried to get Novia #1 to make a budget for our apartment and she did not understand the concept.

Gratuitoius new pussy foto. Low mileage, very smooth pussy on the inside. Fucked for a few hours on and off before this pic so poor liittle pussy is more gapey and puffy. Yeah, she needs to shave, I don't care. All my other chicas have shaved twats, I don't mind going naturale on her to break up the pattern a bit. Flash never does any pussy a favor, starts to look like a foto from an anatomy book, but the room was dark.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2521858]Did you read the CDC announcement? I don't want to explain it wrong so I want to see your read on it.[/QUOTE]I did. The headline says it all. A PCR test, or proof of recovery. Proof of recovery is a positive antigen test. A negative antigen test is useless. It means you have never had Covid, says nothing about whether you have it at the time of test.

So what will work for everyone is a negative PCR test. Which means you don't currently have it. By all means get the other one if you know or think you have had Covid. But if it doesn't show that then you will need the PCR test for sure.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2521892]I did. The headline says it all. A PCR test, or proof of recovery. Proof of recovery is a positive antigen test. A negative antigen test is useless. It means you have never had Covid, says nothing about whether you have it at the time of test.

So what will work for everyone is a negative PCR test. Which means you don't currently have it. By all means get the other one if you know or think you have had Covid. But if it doesn't show that then you will need the PCR test for sure.[/QUOTE]Anyone interested, this is from CDC website.

[QUOTE]
CDC does not recommend getting tested again in the three months after a positive viral test, as long as you do not have symptoms of COVID-19. If you have had a positive viral test in the past 3 months, and you have met the criteria to end isolation, you may travel instead with documentation of your positive viral test results and a letter from your healthcare provider or a public health official that states you have been cleared for travel. The positive test result and letter together are referred to as “documentation of recovery.”
[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Poster99;2521837]From [URL]medellinguru.com[/URL].

Nightly Curfew in Medellin and Antioquia from January 14 to 19.

Medellin and all of Antioquia will have strict nightly curfews starting on January 14 to 19 on the following days:

January 14 10 pm to 5 am.

January 15 10 pm to 5 am.

January 16 10 pm to 5 am.

January 17 10 pm to 5 am.

January 18 10 pm to 5 am.

January 19 10 pm to 5 am.

Also, Medellin and the other nine municipalities in the Aburr Valley will continue Pico why Cedula starting at midnight on January 15, which restricts shopping days based on the last digit of your ID. The Pico why Cedula restriction applies for going to grocery shops, malls, small tiendas, pharmacies and also includes banking and notary services.

If your ID ends with an even number (0, 2, 4, 6, 8) you can go out shopping on even days of the week. And if your ID ends with an odd number (1, 3, 5, 7, 9) you can go out on odd days of the week.[/QUOTE]Dam. You cannot even go to the mall unless it's your day.

In the last posts, I noted "antigen" tests were confused with "antibody" tests, for example but not only by Zeos1 ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2521844&viewfull=1#post2521844[/URL]).

Antigen tests seek specific proteins from the surface of the virus called "antigen". PCR tests seek the DNA. Antigen tests are intended to find if the virus is present, as PCR tests, but are less reliable than PCR.

What Zeos1 and other posters meant to mention is the test for antibodies, but he used the word "antigen". I don't want to be pedantic, but the difference is substantial.

[QUOTE=Conick2000;2521901]Dam. You cannot even go to the mall unless it's your day.[/QUOTE]The reason for the precautions is ICU occupancy, 85%. It is unlikely things will change until that number comes down. It seems to be increasing modestly.

My experience with pico y cedula as well as reports from others, is that enforcement is minimal. I have a cedula and passport, one ending with an odd number, the other even. I have no problem using either. When I use my passport, no one has paid attention since they're either not familiar with where the number is or they just don't care, probably the latter. Having said that, I avoid malls anyway due to covid. However, I go to one outdoor mall every morning for cafe and huevos.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2521892]I did. The headline says it all. A PCR test, or proof of recovery. Proof of recovery is a positive antigen test. A negative antigen test is useless. It means you have never had Covid, says nothing about whether you have it at the time of test.

So what will work for everyone is a negative PCR test. Which means you don't currently have it. By all means get the other one if you know or think you have had Covid. But if it doesn't show that then you will need the PCR test for sure.[/QUOTE]Zeos,

The CDC website:

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html[/URL]

When you scroll down:

"What is a verifiable test result?

A verifiable test result must be in the form of written documentation (paper or electronic copy) of a laboratory test result. Testing must be performed using a viral test (NAAT or antigen), and negative results must be provided to the airline prior to boarding. The test result documentation must include information that identifies the person, a specimen collection date and the type of test. A negative test result must show test was done within the 3 days before the flight. A positive test result must show the test was done within the 3 months before the flight. ".

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but zeos saying "a negative antigen test is useless". Is incorrect.

The website clearly states you can show the "negative results of an antigen test" prior to boarding.

And I believe the antigen (rapid) test can be those fast tests that can show results in an hour, not the PCR that take a few days.

Ill be in MDE next month, looking for clarification. so far what I have concluded:
-negative PCR test 96 hours or less before entry to colombia
-Negative antigen (rapid) test 72 hours prior to entry into the United States

Zeos is confusing antigen with antibody. You need a negative antigen test.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2521917]Zeos,

The CDC website:

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html[/URL]

When you scroll down:

"What is a verifiable test result?

A verifiable test result must be in the form of written documentation (paper or electronic copy) of a laboratory test result. Testing must be performed using a viral test (NAAT or antigen), and negative results must be provided to the airline prior to boarding. The test result documentation must include information that identifies the person, a specimen collection date and the type of test. A negative test result must show test was done within the 3 days before the flight. A positive test result must show the test was done within the 3 months before the flight. ".

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but zeos saying "a negative antigen test is useless". Is incorrect.

The website clearly states you can show the "negative results of an antigen test" prior to boarding.

And I believe the antigen (rapid) test can be those fast tests that can show results in an hour, not the PCR that take a few days.

Ill be in MDE next month, looking for clarification. so far what I have concluded:
-negative PCR test 96 hours or less before entry to colombia
-Negative antigen (rapid) test 72 hours prior to entry into the United States[/QUOTE]You and Black Page are correct. Zeos1 made a few incorrect statements.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2521892]I did. The headline says it all. A PCR test, or proof of recovery. Proof of recovery is a positive antigen test. A negative antigen test is useless. It means you have never had Covid, says nothing about whether you have it at the time of test.

So what will work for everyone is a negative PCR test. Which means you don't currently have it. By all means get the other one if you know or think you have had Covid. But if it doesn't show that then you will need the PCR test for sure.[/QUOTE]No, this is wrong.

An antigen test can be done in 15 minutes. If it is +, it means you are currently infected with Covid.

A PCR test takes hours typically at least 24 to get your result.

Both Colombia and the USA accept PCR tests. Colombia does not accept the antigen test. The USA does.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html[/URL]#text=On%20 January%2012%2 C%202021%2 C%20 CDC, airline%20 before%20 boarding%20 the%20 flight.

"Make sure to be tested with a viral test (NAAT or antigen test) to determine if you are currently infected with COVID-19."

So if you are taking a trip from the USA to Colombia, you need to plan at a minimum of two days in advance to get the PCR test. With the antigen test to get back to the USA, you can go into an urgent care clinic in Colombia and get the results same day.

As for this part, "or documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 to the airline before boarding the flight", this is to give people an out who have had the vaccine or have had a Covid infection previously and have formed antibodies to the virus. Unless you know for sure you have had Covid or got the vaccines weeks before, I do NOT recommend using this method.

If you have gotten the vaccine, I DO recommend this test because it has no time limit.

"CDC issued an Order requiring all air passengers arriving to the US from a foreign country to get tested no more than 3 days before their flight departs and to provide proof of the negative result OR documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 to the airline before boarding the flight."

So the smart thing to do is get the vaccine. Wait 4 to 6 weeks before going. Get a PCR test here and the antibody test here. Once you have a negative PCR test for Covid and a positive antibody test, you will have no problems getting into Colombia and leaving from there.

In fact, I suspect soon you will be able to go anywhere if you have a negative PCR and positive antibody test.

In short, here is what I recommend.

No vaccine: negative PCR test from USA to enter Colombia done within 96 hours of flight. Negative antigen test from Colombia to enter USA 72 hours before your flight.

Vaccine or known history of Covid infection: negative PCR test from USA to enter Colombia done within 96 hours of flight. For entrance to USA: positive antibody test and that can be done at any time. I recommend this being done in USA before leaving for Colombia.

Yes, it is confusing.

Antigen and PCR test show current infection.

Positive antibody test shows previous infection or vaccine was given.

[QUOTE=HuskerDude;2521933]You and Black Page are correct. Zeos1 made a few incorrect statements.[/QUOTE]Not to be too defensive here. I could be wrong for sure. But the statement that says the positive result for the antigen test must be within the previous 3 months. That makes no sense if it is just another test for active covid.

But for sure something is wrong with the statement on the site. Because these statements are not consistent.

"A verifiable test result must be in the form of written documentation (paper or electronic copy) of a laboratory test result. Testing must be performed using a viral test (NAAT or antigen), and negative results must be provided to the airline prior to boarding. The test result documentation must include information that identifies the person, a specimen collection date and the type of test. A negative test result must show test was done within the 3 days before the flight. A positive test result must show the test was done within the 3 months before the flight. ".

Anyway, in my mind needs more clarification. And yes, I did think that the antigen test was to test for antibodies. If that is not correct my apologies. I'll dig a bit deeper.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2521955]Not to be too defensive here. I could be wrong for sure. But the statement that says the positive result for the antigen test must be within the previous 3 months. That makes no sense if it is just another test for active covid.

But for sure something is wrong with the statement on the site. Because these statements are not consistent.

"A verifiable test result must be in the form of written documentation (paper or electronic copy) of a laboratory test result. Testing must be performed using a viral test (NAAT or antigen), and negative results must be provided to the airline prior to boarding. The test result documentation must include information that identifies the person, a specimen collection date and the type of test. A negative test result must show test was done within the 3 days before the flight. A positive test result must show the test was done within the 3 months before the flight. ".

Anyway, in my mind needs more clarification. And yes, I did think that the antigen test was to test for antibodies. If that is not correct my apologies. I'll dig a bit deeper.[/QUOTE]Correct, my apologies. PCR test and antigen tests are both for active Covid. The serological test is the one I was thinking of.

That's what I thought, thanks for the clarification!

[QUOTE=Tricksta;2521876]RiceRocket99 is correct in that the CDC order permits either a negative PCR or a negative antigen test to enter US on an airplane. Both of these tests, when negative, show that you are not currently infected with the virus. The antigen test is far preferable to PCR test because it is faster (some places in US you get the results in 15 minutes) and cheaper. Zeos1 appears to be confusing antigen tests with antibody tests. Antibody test is a blood test that looks for antibodies in your system that fought off the virus. Having a positive antibody test is good because it means that your virus infection / Covid case is behind you and so it is unlikely (though not impossible) that you will get re-infected. Said differently, a positive antibody test means that you have some level of natural immunity to the virus. The CDC order will not allow you to enter the US via airplane on the basis of a positive antibody test. Likewise, the order will not allow you to enter the US via airplane just on the basis that you have already been vaccinated.[/QUOTE]

I was just offered an opportunity to go to Medellin for 1 or 2 weeks in either late January or early February.

But I just don't know if I should.

I need some girls and some action.

I don't really want to get Covid.

And I would need to figure out how and where to get a test 48 hours before I leave so I can get back to where I need to go.

What to do What to do?

I'd want to bring some girls to my room, hit Luna Lunera and La Isla, the centro strip clubs in the day, a good meal at Govindas if its open, some falafel time LOL, and more girls from my facebook and prior trip list. What to do What to do?

Its hard to know how different or risky it is these days and what the truth is! Part of me is like-they just offered you 2 weeks paid vacation GO! And part of me is like. Wait until you're vaccinated hopefully by April??

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2521910]In the last posts, I noted "antigen" tests were confused with "antibody" tests, for example but not only by Zeos1 ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?583-Medellin-Reports&p=2521844&viewfull=1#post2521844[/URL]).

Antigen tests seek specific proteins from the surface of the virus called "antigen". PCR tests seek the DNA. Antigen tests are intended to find if the virus is present, as PCR tests, but are less reliable than PCR.

What Zeos1 and other posters meant to mention is the test for antibodies, but he used the word "antigen". I don't want to be pedantic, but the difference is substantial.[/QUOTE]So I've been following these testing posts and have a question. I should be getting vaccinated soon, and want to know which test to get for entry into Colombia are they still only accepting the PCR test, and return to the USA. Assuming of course I'm not infected, which test would be the best for returning to the USA. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2521955]Not to be too defensive here. I could be wrong for sure. But the statement that says the positive result for the antigen test must be within the previous 3 months. That makes no sense if it is just another test for active covid.

But for sure something is wrong with the statement on the site. Because these statements are not consistent.

"A verifiable test result must be in the form of written documentation (paper or electronic copy) of a laboratory test result. Testing must be performed using a viral test (NAAT or antigen), and negative results must be provided to the airline prior to boarding. The test result documentation must include information that identifies the person, a specimen collection date and the type of test. A negative test result must show test was done within the 3 days before the flight. A positive test result must show the test was done within the 3 months before the flight. ".

Anyway, in my mind needs more clarification. And yes, I did think that the antigen test was to test for antibodies. If that is not correct my apologies. I'll dig a bit deeper.[/QUOTE]I think I can make it clear for you.

If you have had a positive antigen test within the last 3 months, you can fly if you have a doctor's note explaining that you are no longer contagious. I believe this is due to a CDC guideline that you not be retested within 3 months after a positive test.

[QUOTE=Zeos1;2521955]Not to be too defensive here. I could be wrong for sure. But the statement that says the positive result for the antigen test must be within the previous 3 months. That makes no sense if it is just another test for active covid.[/QUOTE]I think CDC assumes the person will be immune for at least 3 months so there is no need to test again.

I have a trip scheduled for February 3rd, and staying the whole month. I'm mid 30's and not necessarily worried about the virus itself but what I am worried about is lockdowns and curfews. I have until the 29th to decide for a full refund and schedule out at a later date.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2521981]I think I can make it clear for you.

If you have had a positive antigen test within the last 3 months, you can fly if you have a doctor's note explaining that you are no longer contagious. I believe this is due to a CDC guideline that you not be retested within 3 months after a positive test.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Yep, makes sense.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2521968]I was just offered an opportunity to go to Medellin for 1 or 2 weeks in either late January or early February.

But I just don't know if I should.

I need some girls and some action.

I don't really want to get Covid.

And I would need to figure out how and where to get a test 48 hours before I leave so I can get back to where I need to go.

What to do What to do?

I'd want to bring some girls to my room, hit Luna Lunera and La Isla, the centro strip clubs in the day, a good meal at Govindas if its open, some falafel time LOL, and more girls from my facebook and prior trip list. What to do What to do?

Its hard to know how different or risky it is these days and what the truth is! Part of me is like-they just offered you 2 weeks paid vacation GO! And part of me is like. Wait until you're vaccinated hopefully by April??[/QUOTE]If you decide to come down to Colombia you should confirm whether or not there are any three day weekends, meaning are there any Holidays on a Monday as they have had a propensity to have stay at home orders during those weekends. Also given how fluid and quickly things could change with weekend lockdowns, what might happen is you buy a ticket and then they have a weekend lockdown. Therefore I would suggest arriving on say a Sunday night. This last week a few members showed up like on Thursday and then were locked down from Friday night until Tuesday morning after the Holiday on Monday, so unless they had a companion, or dared to venture out like one member you might be stuck. Also line up as many of your previous contacts as you can which you can always cancel. When I came down in November I utilized a similar strategy to a certain degree. As far as COVID, well that's a crap shoot for sure, and if you think you will be vaccinated by April, you will have a lot more piece of mind while mongering. A tough decision for you but if you still get the paid vacation in April and can get vaccinated well then I guess you just wait it out with the action you can get with Rosy Palms!

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2521508]Yes your black gal experience at the strip club (I think I know the girl you session-ed with), love it and the thing is that these off the chart sex escapades happen more times than not, like you did you just need a little patience and observation and selection then bamn and you have memories to last well until the next one.

I know some of the doorman there as we have been friends for some years now when they use to work at another strip club, well I have photos of just about every gal that works there, I promised never to share these photos with anyone, but to the story we are setting up a 3 or 4 day finca party in the coming weeks and we will have a half dozen of the girls for the whole weekend of sexcapades and debauchery, hehehehe and your tall black girl will probably be the leader of the pack. Gawd I love Medellin!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I went to Grill Avenida Nueva today and was looking for the taller black lady. I ended up seeing two ladies and went to the back with one of them.

I really enjoyed my session with the alta flacita who has very nice lips and eyes as well as a really nice pear shaped bottom. I was hanging out with another bacano Colombian who was drinking aguaardiente. Paola said 55 k for a 40 minute session which included the 15 k cuarto and included servicios ofrecidos, oral al natural and besos. I have been bringing small water based lubricant which makes a big difference and I used my own preservativo. Their room setup is pretty crazy. You duck underneath a door which flips out from the DJ booth and then walk through another door. There is a shower, but the water is cold. I really enjoyed the time with her and I would do it again. The other girl is darker and has larger hips / caderas and larger breasts and is more animated. The other girl is probably the one that consumed the jewels and cajones.

I had taken the metro at around 4 pm for 2.7 k, but I left in a taxi at about 8:30 pm. Taxi damage was 20 k. I might try and take the metro back next time. Most of the shops were closing down and I was solo.

I tried to post full size photos in my reply. Here are two photos of Paola for my reply.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2521968]I was just offered an opportunity to go to Medellin for 1 or 2 weeks in either late January or early February.

But I just don't know if I should.

I need some girls and some action.

I don't really want to get Covid.

And I would need to figure out how and where to get a test 48 hours before I leave so I can get back to where I need to go.

What to do What to do?

I'd want to bring some girls to my room, hit Luna Lunera and La Isla, the centro strip clubs in the day, a good meal at Govindas if its open, some falafel time LOL, and more girls from my facebook and prior trip list. What to do What to do?

Its hard to know how different or risky it is these days and what the truth is! Part of me is like-they just offered you 2 weeks paid vacation GO! And part of me is like. Wait until you're vaccinated hopefully by April??[/QUOTE]Dude, people who are vaccinated still don't know what the fuck to do! Most of us have lives to come back to in a timely manner. A postive test has real implications in all sorts of ways beyond the health ones. This policy is ludicrous and will be hard to implement well in my opinion. We also need data about what happens when vaccinated people are exposed, do they get no covid, mild or asymptomatic covid, or what exactly if they do get exposed. And are they infectious or not. Because the worst thing that can happen is you go on a short trip to escape for a few days, are feeling 100% fine a few days later, and get a nasty surprise, a positive antigen or PCR test the day before you leave and are thus stranded for 2 wks! Try explaining that to your employer and whoever else in your life. This policy as with so many implemented with this pandemic has not been based on facts, well considered or arguably even practical and solution oriented. It is just killing short term travel of all kinds not just mongering. Who would chance a family vacation to the Bahamas for example? I hope the travel industry presses for and gets some answers. I had a short early Feb. Trip planned and likely going to have to postpone. Just giving myself the next 2 wks to see how things evolve.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2521939]No, this is wrong.

An antigen test can be done in 15 minutes. If it is +, it means you are currently infected with Covid.

A PCR test takes hours typically at least 24 to get your result.

Both Colombia and the USA accept PCR tests. Colombia does not accept the antigen test. The USA does.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html[/URL]#text=On%20 January%2012%2 C%202021%2 C%20 CDC, airline%20 before%20 boarding%20 the%20 flight.

"Make sure to be tested with a viral test (NAAT or antigen test) to determine if you are currently infected with COVID-19."

So if you are taking a trip from the USA to Colombia, you need to plan at a minimum of two days in advance to get the PCR test. With the antigen test to get back to the USA, you can go into an urgent care clinic in Colombia and get the results same day.

As for this part, "or documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 to the airline before boarding the flight", this is to give people an out who have had the vaccine or have had a Covid infection previously and have formed antibodies to the virus. Unless you know for sure you have had Covid or got the vaccines weeks before, I do NOT recommend using this method.

If you have gotten the vaccine, I DO recommend this test because it has no time limit.

"CDC issued an Order requiring all air passengers arriving to the US from a foreign country to get tested no more than 3 days before their flight departs and to provide proof of the negative result OR documentation of having recovered from COVID-19 to the airline before boarding the flight."

So the smart thing to do is get the vaccine. Wait 4 to 6 weeks before going. Get a PCR test here and the antibody test here. Once you have a negative PCR test for Covid and a positive antibody test, you will have no problems getting into Colombia and leaving from there.

In fact, I suspect soon you will be able to go anywhere if you have a negative PCR and positive antibody test.

In short, here is what I recommend.

No vaccine: negative PCR test from USA to enter Colombia done within 96 hours of flight. Negative antigen test from Colombia to enter USA 72 hours before your flight.

Vaccine or known history of Covid infection: negative PCR test from USA to enter Colombia done within 96 hours of flight. For entrance to USA: positive antibody test and that can be done at any time. I recommend this being done in USA before leaving for Colombia.

Yes, it is confusing.

Antigen and PCR test show current infection.

Positive antibody test shows previous infection or vaccine was given.[/QUOTE]But the antibody test alone is not accepted by the CDC. They specifically say antigen test or PCR.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2522048]But the antibody test alone is not accepted by the CDC. They specifically say antigen test or PCR.[/QUOTE]Antigen test or PCR test or someone who has recovered from Covid. The only objective way to say someone has recovered from Covid is the antibody test, and you are right it is not FDA approved. I just am assuming that is what it means.

The vaccines just became available a few weeks ago. Granted, some people like MDS got them in the trials but most people do not. I know a ton of people who got the first vaccine but only one who has gotten both. So once there are more people with the vaccine, I bet the CDC will address it again.

If it is two weeks after your second Covid vaccine injection, I am not sure you really should not have to do any testing.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2521972]So I've been following these testing posts and have a question. I should be getting vaccinated soon, and want to know which test to get for entry into Colombia are they still only accepting the PCR test, and return to the USA. Assuming of course I'm not infected, which test would be the best for returning to the USA. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The antigen test for USA.

PCR for Colombia.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2521968]I was just offered an opportunity to go to Medellin for 1 or 2 weeks in either late January or early February.

But I just don't know if I should.

I need some girls and some action.

I don't really want to get Covid.

And I would need to figure out how and where to get a test 48 hours before I leave so I can get back to where I need to go.

What to do What to do?

I'd want to bring some girls to my room, hit Luna Lunera and La Isla, the centro strip clubs in the day, a good meal at Govindas if its open, some falafel time LOL, and more girls from my facebook and prior trip list. What to do What to do?

Its hard to know how different or risky it is these days and what the truth is! Part of me is like-they just offered you 2 weeks paid vacation GO! And part of me is like. Wait until you're vaccinated hopefully by April??[/QUOTE]So late yesterday afternoon my good Colombian buddy calls me and says hey lets check out the centro clubs just in case the mayor decides to close things down tomorrow for the weekend so off we went.

We checked out about 5 clubs in and around centro from 7 pm till they closed at 10 pm, had a drink or two in each, saw some familiar faces and some new ones, got a few contact numbers, I was tempted to pull the trigger in one of the bars (Occidental) but decided not, my buddy found a sweet heart on the street whom he had at his finca last weekend and so he went to her hotel room for 45 minutes as I hung with a few friends who own a business over in Radual street, then at about 10:30 pm my ATF whom I had not seen for a year and lost contact with her wham she comes running up to me, left centro with her in tow and drove my buddy home to his finca and had incredible sex last night like you do with a long lost love, which she is hehehehe.

I awoke at 5 am this morning and she is still sleeping.

Life is good here in Medellin.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.

I blocked this chica nine months ago, I don't remember exactly why, probably asking for money. I unblocked her yesterday and within 2 hours she pings me (Twilight Zone theme song plays in head).

I met her about a year ago when she was a Hamster cam model here in Medellin. I convinced her to leave the studio and take a taxi directly to my hotel and fuck me first night I was in her Room. I have the original transcript from that encounter and I will post it here if I can find it, it's freakin' hilarious.

Anywho she wants to see me tonight. She thinks I am her boyfriend. She's crazy. Certifiable. So much for my blue ball break and first time off since arriving. I have been fucking day and night since I arrived in the middle of the quarantine and lockdown. My anchor girl so far, La Gacela, is working 12 hour night shifts, six nights a week. She comes over during days and stays in my hotel bed and I fuck her as much as I want whether she is asleep or awake. She asked me for 30 mil pesos yesterday for some hair straightener and that was the first time I gave her money this trip. She is gone from 4 P to 8 A which is a great time for most of these other girls to come out and play. Couldn't have planned it better and I didn't plan it. Typical.

So, what to do? I want to fuck Cray Cray Girl her but I don't want to go through another one of her psycho-stalking-stages, afterwards.

I was pretty lazy this time and I booked the second room in my same hotel. Usually I will use a nearby hotel for a second room, or more. My real room is in the front of the building, 2nd floor. We will be in the back on the 3rd floor, different stairwells. Obviously make the room look used before she arrives. Throw a little change around, that is a great prop. Carried some trash in from my other room.

She should never know about my real room at the opposite end of this hotel. 40.000 pesos or $11.51 for the second room. Make sure you tell the girl at the front desk two things: Not to let it slip out about your real room, and which room you will be in for the arrival call. I will finish this report after she leaves or as always I will be stone cold honest and tell you if she ghosts me.

(Break).

Purrfekt example why over planning is often a futile exercise. I am sitting in my real room at the front of the hotel with my door open and she waltzes in at 10 PM, jajajaja. My Spanish must not be as good as I thought because the girl at the front desk sent her right up. Oh well. Cray Cray Chica got fat, but she is still sexy as hell with a great pussy. Wasted 40 K on the second room. BFD. Mostly we just did a lot of her favorite, which is standard cowboy. She is very quirky and specific. She doesn't like to be kissed, or even touched. The only thing she wants touching her and to feel, is dick. Sounds awful, but I learned to work with it, and she makes up for it like this. She can make me climax in cowboy position when I am relaxed, lay still and don't move a muscle. She is super energetic. Just like old times I held her cell phone over my face while she rode me, so she could watch porn on her phone instead of making eye contact. I love being objectified like that.

I gave her 50 mil for transport both ways, one of the 20 NYC T's I brought back for just such an occasion, the extra room cost above, and a bottle of mango juice. She was picking thru my stuff and I gave her five dental picks, the kind with a little piece of floss built in and you would have thought I gave her another 50 mil note, jajaja. She had never seen one before. Under 100 mil.

She wants to spend all day Saturday with me, might work. One day like that and two more night visits and I will be at the break even for my ROI. La Gacela's birthday is Sunday and her first day off since I arrived. She will be here after her night shift in a couple hours. More to follow.

As I've written before it seems clear that the entry requirement the United States announced it will put in place January 26 is a negative PCR test result. The enforcement is at the point of departure. Airlines are to verify the requirement is met as a condition of boarding.

I started this thread of discussion so I now reserve the right to end it or at least ask that it be moved elsewhere. Since yesterday it has become circular and thus of little use.

[QUOTE=GeneHickman;2522048]But the antibody test alone is not accepted by the CDC. They specifically say antigen test or PCR.[/QUOTE]

Back at it again. 24 curfew starts today 8 pm till 5 am Monday. Stay safe and stock up in food, liquor and pussy!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2522066]Antigen test or PCR test or someone who has recovered from Covid. The only objective way to say someone has recovered from Covid is the antibody test, and you are right it is not FDA approved. I just am assuming that is what it means.

The vaccines just became available a few weeks ago. Granted, some people like MDS got them in the trials but most people do not. I know a ton of people who got the first vaccine but only one who has gotten both. So once there are more people with the vaccine, I bet the CDC will address it again.

If it is two weeks after your second Covid vaccine injection, I am not sure you really should not have to do any testing.[/QUOTE]You would think that something similar to the Yellow Fever Vaccination Documentation system but digitally, versus a yellow booklet would be set up for COVID worldwide, but perhaps it's premature given all of the vaccines in the works, and the efficacy of them. In other words, a vaccine with less than 90% efficacy wouldn't be considered.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2522129]So late yesterday afternoon my good Colombian buddy calls me and says hey lets check out the centro clubs just in case the mayor decides to close things down tomorrow for the weekend so off we went.

We checked out about 5 clubs in and around centro from 7 pm till they closed at 10 pm, had a drink or two in each, saw some familiar faces and some new ones, got a few contact numbers, I was tempted to pull the trigger in one of the bars (Occidental) but decided not, my buddy found a sweet heart on the street whom he had at his finca last weekend and so he went to her hotel room for 45 minutes as I hung with a few friends who own a business over in Radual street, then at about 10:30 pm my ATF whom I had not seen for a year and lost contact with her wham she comes running up to me, left centro with her in tow and drove my buddy home to his finca and had incredible sex last night like you do with a long lost love, which she is hehehehe.

I awoke at 5 am this morning and she is still sleeping.

Life is good here in Medellin.

Much love and respect to all.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Man I probably passed by you yesterday. I'm still exploring Centro and looking for new ground, yesterday I also went to Occidental for the first time. Interesting place, a few chubbys. Did you see the lighter skinned girl in the dreads, black dress bouncing her booty around, I was thinking about taking her but didn't session in the end.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2521508]Yes your black gal experience at the strip club (I think I know the girl you session-ed with), love it and the thing is that these off the chart sex escapades happen more times than not, like you did you just need a little patience and observation and selection then bamn and you have memories to last well until the next one.

I know some of the doorman there as we have been friends for some years now when they use to work at another strip club, well I have photos of just about every gal that works there, I promised never to share these photos with anyone, but to the story we are setting up a 3 or 4 day finca party in the coming weeks and we will have a half dozen of the girls for the whole weekend of sexcapades and debauchery, hehehehe and your tall black girl will probably be the leader of the pack. Gawd I love Medellin!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]That black girl is an interesting character, apparently she's coming to visit me in the morning to pamper me and bring me a gift. Avenida de grill IMHO is the best of the bunch.

I don't like cornejectos, I find it boring and a girls a bit unfriendly but it opens later than others. Also been to Victoria Taberna, a couple of cuties in there but I heard the rooms are awful.

There is another around the corner from Victoria Taberna can't rember the name. Finally I found a whole in the wall strip club. I've been told they turned haf the original into a motorbike parking lot during the pandemic.

Any other bars or strip clubs around centro that I missed or should check out?

P.S. Surfer no she did not swallow but I got lucky twice in a row. Long story short. Second girl after the black girl at the whole in the wall place mounts me bare, forces my head down to eat her out, my kinda hooker. In the end as I'm finishing over her, again mouth wide open "La Boca". Takes the whole lot proudly gargles it and then sees a bit more left on my cock and slurps that off as well, doesn't swallow though. Wow.

One more note. I like new life but it gets busy so you have to wait to see only a few girls at a time. Some hotties are taking before they even start so my go to is Zandaly.

I noticed yesterday there have been notices on television about another lock down this weekend. They talk too fast for me to be certain but it seems to be only for Saturday and Sunday. If I can get confirmation I will post again, but if that is correct it would be less that half the length of this past weekend's lock down that went from Fri night to Tue morning, I believe. I got here Sat night and there was definitely a lock down in place. And when it ended at 5:30 AM on Tue it was like someone flipped a switch. The crowds and traffic were instantly restored. Sorry if I am not more help. I am not super motivated because it has little or no effect on what I got goin' on at the moment. La Gacela's birthday is Sunday and her first day off since I arrived. We will stock up on snacks and beer, use the hotel refrigerator for the cold stuff, and screw our brains out all weekend.

Couple of gratuitous photos of her ass from today.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2522218]Man I probably passed by you yesterday. I'm still exploring Centro and looking for new ground, yesterday I also went to Occidental for the first time. Interesting place, a few chubbys. Did you see the lighter skinned girl in the dreads, black dress bouncing her booty around, I was thinking about taking her but didn't session in the end.

That black girl is an interesting character, apparently she's coming to visit me in the morning to pamper me and bring me a gift. Avenida de grill IMHO is the best of the bunch.

I don't like cornejectos, I find it boring and a girls a bit unfriendly but it opens later than others. Also been to Victoria Taberna, a couple of cuties in there but I heard the rooms are awful.

There is another around the corner from Victoria Taberna can't rember the name. Finally I found a whole in the wall strip club. I've been told they turned haf the original into a motorbike parking lot during the pandemic..[/QUOTE]I cannot recommend any bars or clubs to check out, I don't like the atmosphere, the way they work, along with the loud noise and smoke so I rarely frequent them.

When you get tired of the "bar / club crawl" perhaps try some "lurking". Show up at the Intersection of Carrera / Calle 52 aka "ground zero" around 4 PM in the afternoon as a lot of girls show up around then who work into the early evening and there are still girls from the day shift who will be leaving after it gets dark. You can get some exercise by taking laps around the Church and the backside with it's rows of bars, and alongside the Museum along with walking around the Statues and Park. It seems as though a lot of girls have places that they hang, almost like their spot or perch, albeit a lot float around the area.

So seeing that your already a seasoned veteran when it comes to doing nasty stuff with the girls, and that's a compliment, you should partake again with some of the SW's in the love motels besides the bar / clubs. If you have the time and the patience to mine the area, it will pan out well for you as anything goes there! And you might want to try a Colombian SW versus a Venezuelan SW, I seem to have better luck with them.

[QUOTE=Moso2;2522040]I tried to post full size photos in my reply. Here are two photos of Paola for my reply.[/QUOTE]55 k includes 15 k room charge. You need to ask if the quoted price includes the room charge as well as which services are included. Initially she quoted 40 k. You pay at the register and she will receive a sticky note, etc. She has a really good attitude and an amazing pear shaped bottom.

Cuanto me cobra?

Incluye el precio del cuarto?

Que servicios incluye?

[QUOTE=Yetiecv;2522017]I have a trip scheduled for February 3rd, and staying the whole month. I'm mid 30's and not necessarily worried about the virus itself but what I am worried about is lockdowns and curfews. I have until the 29th to decide for a full refund and schedule out at a later date.[/QUOTE]Only you can decide. The situation is worsening in Colombia. You can follow the graphs as to daily new cases and deaths.

[URL]https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/colombia/[/URL]

That said, there have been guys there during the worst of restrictions, curfews, etc. And they had no regrets. Look up posts from Slapshot and Blakman.

Don't expect there to be any significant vaccine rollouts there in the near future. The primary purpose of the restrictions is to prevent the hospital systems from becoming overwhelmed.

It's easy to keep up with Colombian news online. Look up the newspaper El Tiempo. It's of course translatable.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2522218]Man I probably passed by you yesterday. I'm still exploring Centro and looking for new ground, yesterday I also went to Occidental for the first time. Interesting place, a few chubbys. Did you see the lighter skinned girl in the dreads, black dress bouncing her booty around, I was thinking about taking her but didn't session in the end.

That black girl is an interesting character, apparently she's coming to visit me in the morning to pamper me and bring me a gift. Avenida de grill IMHO is the best of the bunch.

I don't like cornejectos, I find it boring and a girls a bit unfriendly but it opens later than others. Also been to Victoria Taberna, a couple of cuties in there but I heard the rooms are awful.

There is another around the corner from Victoria Taberna can't rember the name. Finally I found a whole in the wall strip club. I've been told they turned haf the original into a motorbike parking lot during the pandemic..[/QUOTE]Small world, we were like two ships passing in the middle of the night.

Yes I too have been in all of them at one time or another in the past 3 or 4 years, just last night hit 4 of them and yes although at times you can find a fun girl in any of these clubs right now Avenida de grill has the best but again this could change as in a month or two another one will go on a new hiring blitz, that's half the fun is that you never know until you check it out.

Yes when I walked into Occidental that chic with the dread locks was stripping, not bad at all. My Colombian buddy swears on the gals in their, load of fun.

As for Victoria Taberna yes I have stopped in a few times in the past 2 years, once actually was drinking with a real nice great attitude paisa, the last time I went in was with my gringo buddy about 2 months back and believe it or not there were 2 or 3 that were doable and dare I say even cute but have never pulled the trigger in that place as I could just imagine what the rooms look like.

Now you photo is interesting as it is the old stage / seating area of BARRA Executive (next to Maracaibo club) and yes they turned this into a front for the hidden club that you have to get into via a small hidden door at the back end of the motorcycle parking. This club was indeed opened DURING the quarantine and my friends and I actually visited and partied in the club like 5 months ago during the lock down.

Now the other club not far from Victoria located on Avenida de Grieff and facing the side of the museum well I went in there once, maybe 2 years back, and never went back in, just real seedy but I may need to re-visit it.

Even though I have been in Conejitas Grill a dozen or more times in the past 3 years, the most recent visit being last night, I have never pulled the trigger but for the only reason is that the 2 or 3 cuties were occupied at tables with guys and they all have a bottle to drink so was not willing to wait around an hour or more until they finish the bottle hehehe.

These are the clubs with no others that I am aware of other than the bars where you drink.

The Tall Man.

I just arrived here this morning to find that they've issued a curfew. I read a little bit on here of the possibility that La Isla might be open regardless off the curfew. Can anyone confirm this to be true? It would be much appreciated.

This is the same girl, "Fat Ass Sweet Pussy Hole" I just posted earlier and fucked late last night, early this morning. I have known this Girl longer than I thought. I was in Medellin, looking at Web cam models on-line, I must've gotten her What'sApp number I assume, really, I don't remember. I do remember thinking, dayuuumm, I can't believe this is going to happen, then happened. I changed her name. The turning point occurred at 11:22 jajajajaja and I laughed in her face. Classic. Please note, I got her there by telling her I would not touch her, but that quickly changed to fucking all her holes. When she showed up she tried a shy act for about 2 minutes. I walked over to the door to my room, telling her, "I will give you taxi fare, leave now. " I opened the door, and when I turned around she was naked from waist down, face up on my bed, with her knees up by her ears, jajajajaja.

{11:00 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Can you do me in favor, I need it urgently. Is that I got the bill from the Internet and the rental of the house. Could you lend me the money until next week I pay you.

{11:01 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I never met you in person, I won't lend you money, not one peso.

{11:01 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: But I need that urgent money tomorrow, the payment bill has arrived, love.

{11:04 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Come to my hotel room now and use both your hands to open your pussy wide and I'll give you 150 thousand pesos.

{11:04 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: plus more 30 for the taxi.

{11:05 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I'm not a working girl to sleep with you for money.

{11:05 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I only asked you a favor if you can't thank you very much.

{11:05 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: 👍127997;.

{11:06 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I'm not going to call you a working girl, but that's your only chance to get money from me by tomorrow and I'll go on a plane tomorrow, so you better come quickly.

{11:08 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: But I'm not used to sleeping with someone. For money.

{11:08 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: You offended me by telling me that.

{11:08 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I won't fuck you, I'll just look at your open hole and put sperm on your face, you won't have to touch me if you don't want to and I'll let you try the pink cocaine, this is a very fair offer between two friendly people.

{11:08 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Because I'm not a working girl.

{11:09 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Thank you, sweetheart. I will continue working to see if I make some money to pay my debts.

{11:09 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Have a happy night.

{11:09 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Goodbye.

{11:10 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Ciao.

{11:11 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Thank you very much bb.

{11:11 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I'll get the money I need working with my effort.

{11:11 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Thank you.

{11:12 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I forgot, I didn't want to ask you for favor.

{11:12 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Sorry.

{11:12 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I will work all this weekend and call the company that gives me. Time to pay my debts.

{11:13 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: OK, no problem, this would be an easy way to make money between friends and you would only have to stay two hours and I know you would enjoy it.

{11:14 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: thank you.

{11:16 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Heart if you want to have dry look for a working girl. I won't go, I didn't think you would tell me those things, I thought you wanted something different with me, I'm not a bad girl, someday I'll get a good man and that he loves me without having to sleep with someone for money.

{11:19 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Come here and sleep with me for free and I will give you the money because I am helping you out and not for sex hahahaha.

{11:19 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Excuse me for borrowing money and you do not know me, you are right to tell me that I am a strange person for you to forget it and wish you a happy night I am not an easy woman.

{11:20 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: tranquil mi amor, I was trying to help both of us at the same time.

{11:21 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Love thank you I still like you but you are nothing in exchange for money.

{11:21 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: 😘.

{11:22 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: In which hotel are you staying?

{11:22 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Hahahahaha.

{11:22 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Why?

{11:23 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: If I decide to go.

{11:23 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: but don't let me do anything wrong.

{11:24 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I won't tell you unless you will be here for sure and promise to show me your pink pussy spread wide open and when I come on your face you open your mouth.

{11:24 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Yes I'll go.

{11:25 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Sure I'll go.

{11:26 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Well tell me address please.

{11:26 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: To order the taxi.

{11:26 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Yes, I'll give you the address:

{11:26 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Ok.

{11:27 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I am at Hotel XXXXXXXXXXX.

{11:27 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: OK, I already ordered the car.

{11:29 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I already ordered the car.

{11:33 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I'm in room 204, come straight up the stairs, do not stop at the desk.

{11:34 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: I already ordered the car. But I've never done this, you won't hurt me.

{11:34 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Don't stop at the reception, go up the stairs to the second floor, turn right, I'm the last room on the left.

{11:34 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Ok.

{11:34 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: You are safe with me my love and you made the right decision.

{11:35 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Okay ok.

{11:39 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: The man at the reception will let you pass without problems, you can go directly to room 204.

{11:41 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: Tell me when you're close. And don't be shy when you get here.

{11:42 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Ok.

{11:46 PM, 10/10/2019} My info: I have ecstasy and pink cocaine.

{11:47 PM, 10/10/2019} Rachael: Ok.

{12:07 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: The car is coming.

{12:07 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: I live far away.

{12:07 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: In Envigado amor.

{12:07 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Love.

{12:10 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Tell me when you're in the taxi.

{12:11 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Ok heart.

{12:12 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: I just took a shower. I have your money counted. The Avengers is on Amazon Prime. The only thing missing is you.

{12:12 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Mmmmm.

{12:29 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Amor.

{12:29 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Love.

{12:30 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: I'm already in the car.

{12:32 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Yes.

{12:45 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Tell me when you're close.

{12:55 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: I'm here.

{12:58 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Ok.

{1:01 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Enter through the main door, go up the steps to the second floor and go to room 204.

THREE HOURS LATER.

{4:08 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Hello.

{4:08 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Love.

{4:27 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Thank you for coming. I like you.

{4:29 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: I arrived home.

{4:29 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Thanks for letting me know.

{4:30 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: 😘128536;.

{4:30 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: my love.

{4:31 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: Did you like being fucked in the ass?

{4:31 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Yes.

{4:34 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: I was very hungry.

{4:34 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: 😜.

{4:35 AM, 11/10/2019} My info: hahahaha.

{4:38 AM, 11/10/2019} Rachael: Already in bed.

I can't believe this happened. Been talking to a non working girl for a few days. So today I start smashing her really hard while she's on top. She's moaning like crazy and making interesting facial expressions, she's really getting into it intensely, I go harder and as she's climaxing and getting carried away she starts slapping my face really hard shouting "mas" "mas" "mas". Wtf, I thought it was supposed to be the other way round. These girls are nuts.

Luna Lunera stayed open continuously since March, 24/7. They kept it on the down low and advertised apartments to the public. As far as I know they never got fined or caught. They were doing renovations at the same time so there were times when you had to tread lightly to avoid construction debris.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2522310]Small world, we were like two ships passing in the middle of the night.

Yes I too have been in all of them at one time or another in the past 3 or 4 years, just last night hit 4 of them and yes although at times you can find a fun girl in any of these clubs right now Avenida de grill has the best but again this could change as in a month or two another one will go on a new hiring blitz, that's half the fun is that you never know until you check it out.

Yes when I walked into Occidental that chic with the dread locks was stripping, not bad at all. My Colombian buddy swears on the gals in their, load of fun.

As for Victoria Taberna yes I have stopped in a few times in the past 2 years, once actually was drinking with a real nice great attitude paisa, the last time I went in was with my gringo buddy about 2 months back and believe it or not there were 2 or 3 that were doable and dare I say even cute but have never pulled the trigger in that place as I could just imagine what the rooms look like.

Now you photo is interesting as it is the old stage / seating area of BARRA Executive (next to Maracaibo club) and yes they turned this into a front for the hidden club that you have to get into via a small hidden door at the back end of the motorcycle parking. This club was indeed opened DURING the quarantine and my friends and I actually visited and partied in the club like 5 months ago during the lock down..[/QUOTE]

There is a story in the local Cartagena paper about three gringos who tried to turn in forged Coronavirus tests when flying out and they apparently have a system that verifies the tests and they called the police and these (am assuming they are all guys) people got arrested.

This was a originally posted in the Cartagena Reports Thread: Great Catch and Great Post by OnFireBoy

Three Americans were arrested with false negative COVID tests Colombian authorities detained three US citizens who intended to leave the country at the Rafael Andez de Cartagena de India's airport, for which they presented false negative coronavirus tests, official sources reported this Thursday.

[URL]https://www.eluniversal.com.co/carta...ovid-EE4042879[/URL]

[URL]https://www.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/detenidos-en-cartagena-con-pruebas-negativas-falsas-de-covid-EE4042879[/URL]

Thanks for the report and pics.

[QUOTE=Moso2;2522266]55 k includes 15 k room charge. You need to ask if the quoted price includes the room charge as well as which services are included. Initially she quoted 40 k. You pay at the register and she will receive a sticky note, etc. She has a really good attitude and an amazing pear shaped bottom.

Cuanto me cobra?

Incluye el precio del cuarto?

Que servicios incluye?[/QUOTE]

Got to love them, they say never stick your dick in crazy but it's got to be okay if she's leaving in an hour!

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2522339]I can't believe this happened. Been talking to a non working girl for a few days. So today I start smashing her really hard while she's on top. She's moaning like crazy and making interesting facial expressions, she's really getting into it intensely, I go harder and as she's climaxing and getting carried away she starts slapping my face really hard shouting "mas" "mas" "mas". Wtf, I thought it was supposed to be the other way round. These girls are nuts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2522339]I can't believe this happened. Been talking to a non working girl for a few days. So today I start smashing her really hard while she's on top. She's moaning like crazy and making interesting facial expressions, she's really getting into it intensely, I go harder and as she's climaxing and getting carried away she starts slapping my face really hard shouting "mas" "mas" "mas". Wtf, I thought it was supposed to be the other way round. These girls are nuts.[/QUOTE]Jajajajajaja, Siiiiiiiiiiiiii.

Is it wrong to have been choked out but I can't remember by who?

(yes, I know it's by whom. I like who).

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2522353]There is a story in the local Cartagena paper about three gringos who tried to turn in forged Coronavirus tests when flying out and they apparently have a system that verifies the tests and they called the police and these (am assuming they are all guys) people got arrested.
[/QUOTE]The article says, 2 girls and 1 guy.

[QUOTE=Balboa;2522395]The article says, 2 girls and 1 guy.[/QUOTE]I see that now after rereading it, I stand corrected it was 2 girls and 1 guy who got arrested. I would not have thought they would arrest people, I thought they would just deny them to get on a flight but I guess it is a form of fraud or forgery.

[URL]https://www.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/detenidos-en-cartagena-con-pruebas-negativas-falsas-de-covid-EE4042879[/URL]

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2521782]Paying off police is my forte.[/QUOTE]How much is a suitable bonus for them, for violating curfew hours 50000 cop.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2522407]I see that now after rereading it, I stand corrected it was 2 girls and 1 guy who got arrested. I would not have thought they would arrest people, I thought they would just deny them to get on a flight but I guess it is a form of fraud or forgery.

[URL]https://www.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/detenidos-en-cartagena-con-pruebas-negativas-falsas-de-covid-EE4042879[/URL][/QUOTE]They came into the Country with no PCR tests, were told to quarantine, and to get a test in order to leave quarantine and exit the Country, which they did not do. I don't know what category this falls under, but it's more than fraud / forgery as they could of been or could be infected potentially exposing others. The problem could of been avoided if Migracion policy were to refuse entry into the Country without a test, versus an alternative quarantine policy that is difficult to enforce. It amazes me why people try to get around following the rules, especially with something like this.

They deserve to be severely punished for this, but will probably just get to pay there way out of it somehow, and will probably be banned for future travel into the Country.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2522339]I can't believe this happened. Been talking to a non working girl for a few days. So today I start smashing her really hard while she's on top. She's moaning like crazy and making interesting facial expressions, she's really getting into it intensely, I go harder and as she's climaxing and getting carried away she starts slapping my face really hard shouting "mas" "mas" "mas". Wtf, I thought it was supposed to be the other way round. These girls are nuts.[/QUOTE]The girls aren't nuts, it's just normal here, you were her whipping boy!

Kind of like riding a horse, but the horse was whipping you to the finish line.

[QUOTE=Luminus;2522378]Got to love them, they say never stick your dick in crazy but it's got to be okay if she's leaving in an hour![/QUOTE]As my dear old mongering dad RIP taught me when I was 13 yo, "The crazier the girl, the better she fucks. " Fat Ass, Sweet Pussy Hole, is as crazy as they come which is why I tried to switch rooms on her (fail, see recent post) but she hasn't come back at me, yet. Fingers crossed.

Thanks for the thoughts. If I come in it has to be Saturday to Saturday. Ow, I may not get the vaccine until the summer. It all keeps changing.

I have some contacts that I can have come stay a night or 2 with me. I don't know if they can get from their place to mine during the lockdown. So that could be tricky if there is a weekend shutdown. Like everyone, so over this. I just want to get back to MDE so bad. The longer I am gone the more ready I am to just live there. But, its been months of trying to figure life out-and I still am not sure how I could support myself there.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2522036]If you decide to come down to Colombia you should confirm whether or not there are any three day weekends, meaning are there any Holidays on a Monday as they have had a propensity to have stay at home orders during those weekends. Also given how fluid and quickly things could change with weekend lockdowns, what might happen is you buy a ticket and then they have a weekend lockdown. Therefore I would suggest arriving on say a Sunday night. This last week a few members showed up like on Thursday and then were locked down from Friday night until Tuesday morning after the Holiday on Monday, so unless they had a companion, or dared to venture out like one member you might be stuck. Also line up as many of your previous contacts as you can which you can always cancel. When I came down in November I utilized a similar strategy to a certain degree. As far as COVID, well that's a crap shoot for sure, and if you think you will be vaccinated by April, you will have a lot more piece of mind while mongering. A tough decision for you but if you still get the paid vacation in April and can get vaccinated well then I guess you just wait it out with the action you can get with Rosy Palms![/QUOTE]

This is the kind of wisdom I most treasure. Please share more.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2522526]As my dear old mongering dad RIP taught me when I was 13 yo, "The crazier the girl, the better she fucks. " Fat Ass, Sweet Pussy Hole, is as crazy as they come which is why I tried to switch rooms on her (fail, see recent post) but she hasn't come back at me, yet. Fingers crossed.[/QUOTE]

You would not have thought they would arrest people.

#deterrence.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2522407]I see that now after rereading it, I stand corrected it was 2 girls and 1 guy who got arrested. I would not have thought they would arrest people, I thought they would just deny them to get on a flight but I guess it is a form of fraud or forgery.

[URL]https://www.eluniversal.com.co/cartagena/detenidos-en-cartagena-con-pruebas-negativas-falsas-de-covid-EE4042879[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2522526]As my dear old mongering dad RIP taught me when I was 13 yo, "The crazier the girl, the better she fucks. " Fat Ass, Sweet Pussy Hole, is as crazy as they come which is why I tried to switch rooms on her (fail, see recent post) but she hasn't come back at me, yet. Fingers crossed.[/QUOTE]He was fucking right. I used to mess with a nurse that could lick an ass and slurp cum like a work of art. One night when I was sleep she slid a nice gold wedding ring on my finger. That was about 18 years ago. Til this day she swears we were a couple and she moved to my city for us to be together. I keep telling her we were never a couple. These days when she calls I just hang up on her. I miss her freaky ways but I can't take the crazy shit.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2522526]As my dear old mongering dad RIP taught me when I was 13 yo, "The crazier the girl, the better she fucks. "[/QUOTE]I was reading a book that said male sex drive is 9 X that of women, but I have seen exceptions with some women. There are two things when you have manic bipolars in the mania phase: they spend money like crazy (so they have to working girl themselves out to pay their bills) and they are complete nymphos when manic.

One manic chick controlled her mania with pot. We would have sex and she was multi orgasmic and would get off like 3 or 4 times. I am not certain if she did it for health reasons of what, but we go at it, and she came at least 10 X, basically sex with her was one big orgasm. I told her that she should get back on her pot as it was therapeutic for her. If she did not, she was going to crash and burn.

In the USA, what I have seen is most of the hottest women are bipolar or have ADHD. Thing with bipolars is that they are either: sooooo happy or damned near suicidal. So when they are depressed, they are going to stand you up on dates which was fine with me because they are total downers when depressed.

Guys who do not get this disease can get caught up in this. You have a hot chick who is so fun, great in bed, so happy, so in love with you, and you wonder if she is the one and two days later, she is silting her wrists claiming everything in the whole world sucks including you.

The phrase you treat the babes like bubs probably has to do with bipolars because they hate rejection. I finally figured out the way to handle these women was for them to be sugar baby like but to let them call me when they were in the mood and try not to make plans with them or have a plan be and not get upset with them if they did not show up. There is no fucking way any guy should consider any kind of serious relationship with these women. They are pay as you go and never pay in advance.

Before I started playing mostly abroad, I had a stable of these hot, crazy women who sung my praises to everyone. They were all grateful that I understood them. I just cannot imagine getting a hot chick in the sex prison who is not crazy. The demand and price for the hot sane ones is way too high in the USA but the price is not out of reach in Colombia.

Hidden camera photo of Centro rat at Zona Rosa Hotel. Beware guys, there are hidden cameras.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2522549]He was fucking right. I used to mess with a nurse that could lick an ass and slurp cum like a work of art. One night when I was sleep she slid a nice gold wedding ring on my finger. That was about 18 years ago. Til this day she swears we were a couple and she moved to my city for us to be together. I keep telling her we were never a couple. These days when she calls I just hang up on her. I miss her freaky ways but I can't take the crazy shit.[/QUOTE]

The weekend / week day curfews are implemented to get the infection rate down and subsequently relieve ICU capacity. It looks like some of these actions have been taken previously and helped get numbers low. Hope the same thing happens now.

I want to take a moment to thank all the BMs on ground churning out trip reports.

While there are probably a few of you guys currently, your info / trip reports are invaluable to those of us planning a trip.

How are you guys meeting up with chicks during the lockdowns? I arrive tomorrow and just trying to figure out if there's anything going on. Thanks.

I've gone there during curfew and non-curfew nights. But they're def not 24/7 like before. I know one of the manager type guys that work there and they were closed on some nights during the lockdown. If they would open during lockdown, you won't go through main door, there's a a side entrance they use, so make it seem the place is still closed. Also, main floor (strip club area) has been closed. You would go upstairs and they converted it into a bar type spot and rooms available to do the deed. Just that not much privacy cuz some rooms are right next to the bar tables so you can see who’s going in and out of the rooms haha.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2522345]Luna Lunera stayed open continuously since March, 24/7. They kept it on the down low and advertised apartments to the public. As far as I know they never got fined or caught. They were doing renovations at the same time so there were times when you had to tread lightly to avoid construction debris.[/QUOTE]

From where I am sitting overlooking Avenida 70, there is more activity compared to the lock down last weekend. Mucho, mucho less than normal but there are a few people milling around and there is some traffic. Flame (girl from last night stayed over) had Frisby's chicken delivered again (they are my fave fried chicken chain in Medellin). I haven't left my Room since 6 P yesterday. The lock down this weekend is less than half as long as the one we had last weekend ends Sunday at 5 P I believe, I did not confirm. Let's hope we have a trend.

Gratuitous fotos from last night. Yeah, I know I said I would be fucking La Gacela all weekend but her birthday and first day off is Sun morning. I gave her Sat off to "rest up" and intended to take a blue-ball break but again, the chicas here make it too easy to fill any available space, jajaja. Fotos include Puta Delivery Van; The fruit cart guys were definitely not out last weekend but they are this weekend, so that's some kind of barometer.

I believe Gene Hickman is correct. This is from the CDC website.

When do I need to get a test to travel to the US? And what kind of test do I need?

Get tested no more than 3 days before your flight to the US departs. Make sure to be tested with a viral test (NAAT or antigen test) to determine if you are currently infected with COVID-19. Also make sure that you receive your results before your flight departs and have documentation of your results to show the airline.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2522153]As I've written before it seems clear that the entry requirement the United States announced it will put in place January 26 is a negative PCR test result. The enforcement is at the point of departure. Airlines are to verify the requirement is met as a condition of boarding.

I started this thread of discussion so I now reserve the right to end it or at least ask that it be moved elsewhere. Since yesterday it has become circular and thus of little use.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2522560]I was reading a book that said male sex drive is 9 X that of women, but I have seen exceptions with some women. There are two things when you have manic bipolars in the mania phase: they spend money like crazy (so they have to working girl themselves out to pay their bills) and they are complete nymphos when manic.

One manic chick controlled her mania with pot. We would have sex and she was multi orgasmic and would get off like 3 or 4 times. I am not certain if she did it for health reasons of what, but we go at it, and she came at least 10 X, basically sex with her was one big orgasm. I told her that she should get back on her pot as it was therapeutic for her. If she did not, she was going to crash and burn.

In the USA, what I have seen is most of the hottest women are bipolar or have ADHD. Thing with bipolars is that they are either: sooooo happy or damned near suicidal. So when they are depressed, they are going to stand you up on dates which was fine with me because they are total downers when depressed.

Guys who do not get this disease can get caught up in this. You have a hot chick who is so fun, great in bed, so happy, so in love with you, and you wonder if she is the one and two days later, she is silting her wrists claiming everything in the whole world sucks including you..[/QUOTE]In my experience in the USA the very hottest of the hot white putas are 1 of 2 varieties.

Bipolar type 1, or a serious gambling addiction.

They are great fucks when manic, but can also be dangerous and try to kill you without much warning jajajajaja.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2522585]Hidden camera photo of Centro rat at Zona Rosa Hotel. Beware guys, there are hidden cameras.[/QUOTE]That rat looks like a baby cat, albeit it's a rat, maybe your pet rat.

What are you smoking by the way, your post makes no sense at all, albeit neither do lot's of mine.

[QUOTE=IamLookin;2522644]I believe Gene Hickman is correct. This is from the CDC website.

When do I need to get a test to travel to the US? And what kind of test do I need?

Get tested no more than 3 days before your flight to the US departs. Make sure to be tested with a viral test (NAAT or antigen test) to determine if you are currently infected with COVID-19. Also make sure that you receive your results before your flight departs and have documentation of your results to show the airline.[/QUOTE]So is there a registration requirement like for entry into Colombia, or do you just show up at the airline and if you have it they allow you to board, and what happens on arrival in the USA, do you have to show the test to immigration as well?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2522504]The girls aren't nuts, it's just normal here, you were her whipping boy!

Kind of like riding a horse, but the horse was whipping you to the finish line.[/QUOTE]True that! Absolutely normal here and if your chica is not like this find another as there is something wrong with her hehehe.

You can't make this shit up, as few years ago I had a favorite of mine over to my apartment for a long weekend, she is a pasia and a sex-maniac, we still stay in contact with each other, she rode me so long and hard and fast that it cracked the bed frame, not to mention that the bed slide from one side of the room over to the door as the floors are slippery tile, I had to repair the bed and then added additional supports to prevent future breakage, the repairs worked and god only knows that on future visits she tried hard to break the bed but unsuccessful.

So yes this is normal here, get use to it hehehe.

The Tall Man.

With increased vaccine availability and early access to Vaccine for some of us. Would it be possible for entry requirements to change from PCR only to PCR or Vaccine. All of us who are vaccinated are getting a CDC letter / card indicating vaccine confirmation. What are the chances that immigration authorities in Colombia revise this requirement.

I am aware the Jan 26 US entry requirements addressed this. Vaccine confirmation does not replace negative COVID test.

[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2522795]With increased vaccine availability and early access to Vaccine for some of us. Would it be possible for entry requirements to change from PCR only to PCR or Vaccine. All of us who are vaccinated are getting a CDC letter / card indicating vaccine confirmation. What are the chances that immigration authorities in Colombia revise this requirement.

I am aware the Jan 26 US entry requirements addressed this. Vaccine confirmation does not replace negative COVID test.[/QUOTE]Is there not another forum or resource where folks can ask questions and discuss public health policies and travel restrictions? One of the Facebook groups perhaps? Its getting quite tiresome, repetitive, and speculative in here. Months and months of it.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2522822]Is there not another forum or resource where folks can ask questions and discuss public health policies and travel restrictions? One of the Facebook groups perhaps? Its getting quite tiresome, repetitive, and speculative in here. Months and months of it.[/QUOTE]I for one like to see news of this sort here. I don't read too many forums and I travel regularly to Medellin. I would like to be informed of the requirements for entry into Colombia, as they change on a regular basis.

But I have no interest in debating this issue, just the news.

[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2522795]I am aware the Jan 26 US entry requirements addressed this. Vaccine confirmation does not replace negative COVID test.[/QUOTE]You are right SS. The CDC left it vague about how someone who has recovered from Covid could enter the USA. I think they are going to have to address the vaccine issue and what they meant by recovered shortly. Are they really going to let in people with a positive test and a doctor's letter as some have suggested here? Maybe that is what they meant, but that does not make sense to me.

I implied before that if you booked at double occupancy rate at Ayenda hotels they would not charge you for guests. They would not charge you for the FIRST guest at a double occupancy rate, after that, they charge 20 mil per guest (about five bucks), with some leeway depending on the timing. For example, if a chica comes up to my room in the middle of the day for a drink and leaves in an hour, I wouldn't expect to be charged. But why in the Hell would you want to do that, jajjaja? Find them and Fuck them. Also, this past weekend I got a friendly warning for, Don't bring more than three girls to the room at once (three were allowed) and they seemed to get nervous at a threshold of six girls in a 24 hour period, jajaja. Photos to follow. As I said before, they check and hold cedulas which is what you want. Every time a girl left this they called me from reception before returning her cedula to see if everything was okay in my Room, that I was still alive, etc. Every Ayenda hotel I have stayed allows guests. They are very guest friendly within the boundaries of their rules, which is what you want. You don't want some wide open, wild setting, or someplace that will not allow guests at all. Ayenda seems to have found the sweet spot, and I think us mongers are one of their target markets, jajaa.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2522825]I for one like to see news of this sort here. I don't read too many forums and I travel regularly to Medellin. I would like to be informed of the requirements for entry into Colombia, as they change on a regular basis.

But I have no interest in debating this issue, just the news.[/QUOTE]It's good to know updated information on this matter, I learned a lot before my last trip.

[QUOTE=SankarShetty;2522795]With increased vaccine availability and early access to Vaccine for some of us. Would it be possible for entry requirements to change from PCR only to PCR or Vaccine. All of us who are vaccinated are getting a CDC letter / card indicating vaccine confirmation. What are the chances that immigration authorities in Colombia revise this requirement.

I am aware the Jan 26 US entry requirements addressed this. Vaccine confirmation does not replace negative COVID test.[/QUOTE]Eventually some day what you are asking about will come to fruition, but it's probably always off, so you just need to be patient as everything is a moving target and has been evolving and morphing. Enough said about this!

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2522630]From where I am sitting overlooking Avenida 70, there is more activity compared to the lock down last weekend. Mucho, mucho less than normal but there are a few people milling around and there is some traffic. Flame (girl from last night stayed over) had Frisby's chicken delivered again (they are my fave fried chicken chain in Medellin). I haven't left my Room since 6 P yesterday. The lock down this weekend is less than half as long as the one we had last weekend ends Sunday at 5 P I believe, I did not confirm. Let's hope we have a trend.

Gratuitous fotos from last night. Yeah, I know I said I would be fucking La Gacela all weekend but her birthday and first day off is Sun morning. I gave her Sat off to "rest up" and intended to take a blue-ball break but again, the chicas here make it too easy to fill any available space, jajaja. Fotos include Puta Delivery Van; The fruit cart guys were definitely not out last weekend but they are this weekend, so that's some kind of barometer.[/QUOTE]So did you line up the two girls in one of your photo's on the end of a bed, pull their thongs off, and bareback them both in doggie?

I would of if given the opportunity in a heartbeat!

Curious and imaginary minds, not mine of course, but others, are wondering!

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2522825]I for one like to see news of this sort here. I don't read too many forums and I travel regularly to Medellin. I would like to be informed of the requirements for entry into Colombia, as they change on a regular basis.

But I have no interest in debating this issue, just the news.[/QUOTE]I arrived today from Newark Fort Lauderdale MDE. A PCR test within 96 hours was required at Newark Airport to get onto the plane. They also checked in Fort Lauderdale and in customs in MDE.

I'm planning a trip to Medellin next month (subject to COVID). I've done Tijuana and Guadalajara, and the real reason I want to visit MDE is the non-mechanical experience. I want better experiences that 1-hour arribas with half-decent looking chicks.

How would you all recommend finding the following type of chica's if you had 6 days in MDE?

1.) Under 30.

2.) Between 6.5-8 in looks.

3.) Willing to spend 2-8 hours.

4.) Sexually open - 3-course menu etc.

I can't seem to figure our how FB works with these Chicas. All the accounts I find are inactive for months or years. Thank you'll in advance.

You are correct on all counts and I can tell you did in fact visit during the early lockdown. The construction dust and the noise from the temporary bar bothered more than anything else. After a couple of times I stuck to the apartments, first in LOS Colores and later right behind the la 33 headquarters. I am a sentimental fool when it comes to certain places. Whenever I am near Luna Lunera I get warm memories of Abydos, now more than 10 years gone.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2522626]I've gone there during curfew and non-curfew nights. But they're def not 24/7 like before. I know one of the manager type guys that work there and they were closed on some nights during the lockdown. If they would open during lockdown, you won't go through main door, there's a a side entrance they use, so make it seem the place is still closed. Also, main floor (strip club area) has been closed. You would go upstairs and they converted it into a bar type spot and rooms available to do the deed. Just that not much privacy cuz some rooms are right next to the bar tables so you can see whos going in and out of the rooms haha.[/QUOTE]

I don't believe the CDC makes or enforces border security. It is an advisory body with respect to coronavirus control. The USA State Department (which maintains a web site where the latest accurate information can be found by the way) makes the policy and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (aka "ICE") enforces it. ICE also maintains an up to date website. You won't find punter information on either of those sites. I mention this because there appears to be topic confusion. Perhaps the moderator can help with structuring the content here differently.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2522837]You are right SS. The CDC left it vague about how someone who has recovered from Covid could enter the USA. I think they are going to have to address the vaccine issue and what they meant by recovered shortly. Are they really going to let in people with a positive test and a doctor's letter as some have suggested here? Maybe that is what they meant, but that does not make sense to me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TimmyJoon;2522902]I'm planning a trip to Medellin next month (subject to COVID). I've done Tijuana and Guadalajara, and the real reason I want to visit MDE is the non-mechanical experience. I want better experiences that 1-hour arribas with half-decent looking chicks.

How would you all recommend finding the following type of chica's if you had 6 days in MDE?

1.) Under 30.

2.) Between 6.5-8 in looks.

3.) Willing to spend 2-8 hours.

4.) Sexually open - 3-course menu etc.

I can't seem to figure our how FB works with these Chicas. All the accounts I find are inactive for months or years. Thank you'll in advance.[/QUOTE]Sending PM.... never mind... get a paid membership so we can help you with out jamming up the forum

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2522938]Sending PM.... never mind... get a paid membership so we can help you with out jamming up the forum[/QUOTE]If you can speak a little Spanish all you got to do is hang out at Lleras Park. Or if you're really adventurous go over to El Centro. But it's not for the faint of heart.

[QUOTE=TimmyJoon;2522902]I'm planning a trip to Medellin next month (subject to COVID). I've done Tijuana and Guadalajara, and the real reason I want to visit MDE is the non-mechanical experience. I want better experiences that 1-hour arribas with half-decent looking chicks.

How would you all recommend finding the following type of chica's if you had 6 days in MDE?

1.) Under 30.

2.) Between 6.5-8 in looks.

3.) Willing to spend 2-8 hours.

4.) Sexually open - 3-course menu etc.

I can't seem to figure our how FB works with these Chicas. All the accounts I find are inactive for months or years. Thank you'll in advance.[/QUOTE]1. Buy the tickets and fly to MDE.

2. Get transportation from the airport into your lodging in Medellin.

Those are the only parts of your plan that should present any difficulty.

In my experience it's harder to find a girl over 30 than under 30. It's harder to find a girl under a 6.5 than better than a 6.5 or better.

Your other 2 requirements mostly depend on you. I rarely have difficulty keeping a girl for at least 2 hours. With some guys, the girls are ready to go as quick as they can. There are lots of things that go into this.

Personal hygiene is important. I've run into a few mongers who needed an introduction to soap, deodorant and toothpaste. Although occasionally you'll run into a girl who needs some cleaning, in my experience it's rare.

Show some consideration to the girl. If you're just treating her like an inflatable fuck doll, she's going to get it over with and get out. The more she enjoys the session, the longer she's likely to stay.

Provide a nice atmosphere. Pick up your garbage and dirty clothes before she arrives. Put on some music. Having something to drink or snack on is a nice touch. Smirnoff Ice is pretty popular with the girls and most of them love sweets. Have condoms, lube (particularly if you're wanting anal) and clean towels handy. I always buy some nicely scented body wash and the girls love it. Most of them are using the cheapest bar soap at home.

Talk to them. If you can make them laugh or get them interested, they're happier to stay. This is where knowing some Spanish is helpful. The more the better. You can get by with the basics using Google Translate, but it is cumbersome trying to carry on a conversation.

There are 2 strategies for getting anal, if that's what you're referencing. The first is to screen and only set up girls who are back door providers. The other is to try to arrange it during the extended stay. With either, your chances of success are going to depend on your size and how well you get along with the girl.

For figuring out Facebook, go to the General Topics thread. Search for Facebook. There's a post that should show up by me that details how to get started with Facebook.

Most importantly, read the forum. Go back at least 50 pages and read everything. Some of it will be very helpful.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2522886]So did you line up the two girls in one of your photo's on the end of a bed, pull their thongs off, and bareback them both in doggie?

I would of if given the opportunity in a heartbeat!

Curious and imaginary minds, not mine of course, but others, are wondering![/QUOTE]Yes, agree, that is SOP, Standard Operating Procedure in that situation. For reasons that are too stupid to explain and that I cannot defend, I barebacked Flame with the fatter ass as shown in the foto and covered my bubba with a rubba for the other. Those two were just the beginning. Flame fucks me for free, but of course we can't expect that of her friends and she invites them over as sort of a win-win. Lots of girl on girl, including vibrators. I was trying to rest up this weekend for today and tonight, the first night when La Gacela did not have to work and her birthday. Instead Friday night started a 36 hour drugged sex marathon with four different chicas, three at the same time. I will post pics.

Gratuitous foto from tonight, we are both in recovery mode. I am not much of a breast man, more of a legs and ass guy, BUT I can appreciate La Gacela's breasts, dayum they are nice, just like her ass, pussy, butt hole, mouth. . . She's been up all night and day so of course, had to ask, "Mi amor, is it okay if I fuck you while you are sleeping?" Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.

[QUOTE=TimmyJoon;2522902]

I can't seem to figure our how FB works with these Chicas. All the accounts I find are inactive for months or years. Thank you'll in advance.[/QUOTE]This post will give you some info.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2410175&viewfull=1#post2410175[/URL]

Pay for the membership so others who want to help can share with you with PM.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2523077]This post will give you some info.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?578-General-Info&p=2410175&viewfull=1#post2410175[/URL]

Pay for the membership so others who want to help can share with you with PM.[/QUOTE]You do not need atao add the girls as your friends!

You can just click on their profile then send them a direct message. There is no benefit that comes with adding them as friends-other than people not involved in your Colombia activities seeing you have new young hot female friends.

Facebook allows people who are not friends to message each other. These girls all set their pictures to public and not friends only anyway.

I don't understand why people keep saying to add these girls to your friends list. There is no reason to do this. Just message them in Facebook messenger.

What's up ISG family? I haven't been on here much since I moved to Medellin. But I knew this would be the place to ask the question. I've heard anecdotes about guys hooking up with super hot foreign tourist girls staying at hostels. I've never stayed at one myself but considering staying in one for a week or so or a weekend to see what damage I can do. Any recommended spots in Meddy or surrounding towns?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2523133]What's up ISG family? I haven't been on here much since I moved to Medellin. But I knew this would be the place to ask the question. I've heard anecdotes about guys hooking up with super hot foreign tourist girls staying at hostels. I've never stayed at one myself but considering staying in one for a week or so or a weekend to see what damage I can do. Any recommended spots in Meddy or surrounding towns?[/QUOTE]You had better be young and handsome. They're not colombianas. and please don't say "Meddy"

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2522947]

I've run into a few mongers who needed an introduction to soap, deodorant and toothpaste.
[/QUOTE]And dressed like an unemployed grifter that got shit-faced drunk in Key West last night, or. Dressed by their mother before they left home.

So much has happened that I can't keep up. What was supposed to be a blue-ball break this past weekend instead turned into a five girl orgy. Unplanned. That is what Medellin does to me. When I think I need to take a break and put a toe back into reality, Medellin says, "No, no, no, think again, I am not done with you, instead we are going to take it to the next level."

I am writing on the fly, without revisions, I got to keep moving.

La Gacela arrived on Sun morning her birthday, and we had a great time, mostly making sure she was relaxed and didn't have any wants or needs. She left at 11 AM on Monday. A little pissed because she saw fotos of the orgy and fotos of herself I sent in Emails. My bad, but I prefer all the cards on the table and she was happy when she left. Imagine that scenario back in the good ol' USA and how different the outcome would be, if your wifey or GF found fotos like that on your phone, jajajaja.

She is the perfect anchor girlfriend for mongering because her work schedule keeps my nights free. She also fucks me for free but I gave her a nice birthday present. My ROI on her is so high on her it's incalculable. The leftover pink stuff from the party meant I could give her four hours of nonstop pussy licking. At the end of that I was stirring the honey pot.

As far as what happened before La Gacela's arrival, between Friday and Sun morning, I will let the pictures tell the story. Flame fucks me for free because of pussy credits, so technically it's not free, it's prepaid. I don't recommend doing that, esp if you are new to the game. She asked if she could invite over a few friends, "not for sex" but to listen to music and hang out, if I bought a bottle of rum. Sure. I saw the potential there, anyone would. Rum became 3 points of 2 See. The girls were all great. One was spectacular and she's going to bump chicas down in my line up as the new Number Four, if she accepts.

The most uptight girl of the weekend was channeling Veronica from Archie and His Gang in looks and bitchy attitude. After some 2 See she was down on all fours giving me a porn star blowjob with drool running off her chin. Plus a lot more.

Of course I paid. The New Number Four got a total of 200. Veronica got 100. Whip Me got 150. Plus food, beer, 2 See. Oh yeah I gave La Gacela a 20 for cab fare. Would do it all again in heart beat. La Gacela is on her way back over. Two of other girls have texted me wanting to return. I got something real special cooked up with a new chica for, shite, tomorrow afternoon, that came fast. And a twist that knocked me down, I will write about soon. You won't believe it except it's the stone cold truth. I believe we got ourselves a good start on a screenplay. Fotos of this past weekend continued in the next post.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2523133]What's up ISG family? I haven't been on here much since I moved to Medellin. But I knew this would be the place to ask the question. I've heard anecdotes about guys hooking up with super hot foreign tourist girls staying at hostels. I've never stayed at one myself but considering staying in one for a week or so or a weekend to see what damage I can do. Any recommended spots in Meddy or surrounding towns?[/QUOTE]It seems odd that you would think that members on the Medellin board would know where to look for "super hot foreign tourist girls staying at hostels" given that all of us on this board are in the pay pool, not looking for tourists to bang. However probably the highest density of hostels is going to be in and around Poblado with several in the barrios of Provenza and in and around Parque Lleras along with the Manila and Patio Bonito Barrios and a few in Astorga. If you live in Medellin, I suggest you walk around within these areas besides looking on the Internet where to stay. But honestly, seems like a pain in the ass and a waste of time trying to lay a foreigner, and quite frankly, I have rarely seen any hot foreign tourist girls in the areas I've mentioned. Anyways, good luck, and if you hit pay dirt, let us know.

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2523102]You do not need atao add the girls as your friends!

You can just click on their profile then send them a direct message. There is no benefit that comes with adding them as friends-other than people not involved in your Colombia activities seeing you have new young hot female friends.

Facebook allows people who are not friends to message each other. These girls all set their pictures to public and not friends only anyway.

I don't understand why people keep saying to add these girls to your friends list. There is no reason to do this. Just message them in Facebook messenger.[/QUOTE]The reason why people keep saying to add girls is because there are reasons to do so.

First the disclaimer. If you're using Facebook normally, keeping up with friends and family, former co-workers and all that happy social media stuff, anything you do involving Facebook is going to connect to all those people. There are some security measures, such as requiring your approval for anything someone tags you in, or posts on your timeline. That keeps the chica from posting a picture of you with her and another girl in the jacuzzi on your timeline. However, no matter how high your security or precautions, your friends will still be getting friend requests or recommendations for girls in Medellin, even if you are only messaging them.

Now, if your family situation, or employment could be threatened by anyone associating your trips to Colombia with prostitution, stay off of Facebook and you might want to consider reducing your trips to Colombia. My job is secure, more than secure. My family long ago accepted that I don't care what they think about what I do. So I use Facebook.

Back to the reasons.

1. Adding friends saves having to remember which Luisa was the dead fish and which was the pornstar. You remove the ones who aren't worth keeping.

2. Many of the profiles have pictures restricted to just friends. There will be a few pictures anyone can see, but the majority are only open to friends. Every time I get a friend request (about 10 per week) I accept and then check the profile again.

3. Girls find you. Why have to start your search over every time, when you can let Facebook let the girls know you're available? I have added 3 times as many girls who found me, than ones I went searching for.

4. Free previews. Are you looking for a party girl, who'll bring along tussi and weed? You want a girl who loves to dance? You want a more girl next door type? You want a girl who will dive face first into a threesome? You want a girl who you can take to a decent restaurant? You want a girl who will bring her own handcuffs? Many of the girls document everything on Facebook. To me this adds a level of familiarity. I know more about how I expect her to behave.

5. Deep diving. Many of the girls have friends who are also working. Some also have friends who are just part time, or who live in different cities. If you take the time to dig into friends of friends, there are many gems to be found.

There are more reasons, but it all depends on your situation. If you're a regular, like to repeat with the good ones and want to build a network of pussy, add them. If you're an infrequent visitor, if you want to keep a certain detachment, just message them.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2522933]I don't believe the CDC makes or enforces border security. It is an advisory body with respect to coronavirus control. The USA State Department (which maintains a web site where the latest accurate information can be found by the way) makes the policy and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (aka "ICE") enforces it. [/QUOTE]Yes, Knowledge you are correct about how things are supposed to work, but that is not what is going on. The CDC set up guidelines and the airlines are enforcing them. I do not like how this law was set up on the American side but it is what it is. So it does not matter what ICE thinks or does if the airline does not fly you to or from Colombia.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2523133]What's up ISG family? I haven't been on here much since I moved to Medellin. But I knew this would be the place to ask the question. I've heard anecdotes about guys hooking up with super hot foreign tourist girls staying at hostels. I've never stayed at one myself but considering staying in one for a week or so or a weekend to see what damage I can do. Any recommended spots in Meddy or surrounding towns?[/QUOTE]Hostels are for a lower income strata traveler in a dormitory setting. I doubt that group has the extra money for virus testing to travel, the funds to stay if air flights are cancelled, money to take a last minute flight out if need be. So I do not see them taking the jump to travel at this time. Plus, I think the girls would not be too open for playing around like before in this virus situation. If you moved to Medellin just go talk to a few of the larger hostels to see how full they are and chat with some workers there. Best to go to a Backpackers-are-Us type website.

Landed on Thursday and walked right into a curfew. Went to La Isla just to have a drink and chill. Only a couple tables filled. Talent was ehhh. Nothing special.

So far I have seen five girls from Facebook they are pretty popular had a threesome.

I am noticing that the Facebook girls are now trying to get $100.

I'm standing firm at 250 mil. With taxi included.

Unless you are grandfathered in I think the days of 150 are gone.

Tomorrow things should be back to somewhat normal.

But since I have two months here I will just relax and wait till the weekend and until then I will just do Facebook girls.

Photos Continued From Previous Post About This Past Weekend. La Gacella said she would return before her night shift started but she did not, no worries there, Colombiana Time. Flame was chomping at the bit the hardest so I told her to come on over. I told her I would be taking close up fotos of her pussy which somehow escaped me this past weekend. Anywho, call it my style, I usually like to set up some expectation for what will be happening. But stay flexible, there is no reason to stick to a script if something more interesting starts to develop.

Better to say "Medalo" in public if you can say "Medellin. " Or use MDE as the abbreviation here. I agree that I've not heard people use "Meddy. ".

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2523254]You had better be young and handsome. They're not colombianas. and please don't say "Meddy"[/QUOTE]

I appreciate the reports more than ever. I was supposed to be in MDE in early December and then later December. My first trip was cut short by a health problem. I decided to fly back to the USA For that. Cleared that up in 5 days and next day after release I got hit by a car. Broken neck. While taking scans, saw some on pancreas and had to get a biopsy. Luckly, it looks like the pancreas issue is nothing. Now to find a surgeon who can fix my neck ASAP so I can rehab and then travel again. When you are in the hospital, they are ready to do surgery immediately. But when you are not, they want you to wait week for a "new patient" appointment geez.

So keep the news and fotos coming. I will contribute again when I can.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2523285]I appreciate the reports more than ever. I was supposed to be in MDE in early December and then later December. My first trip was cut short by a health problem. I decided to fly back to the USA For that. Cleared that up in 5 days and next day after release I got hit by a car. Broken neck. While taking scans, saw some on pancreas and had to get a biopsy. Luckly, it looks like the pancreas issue is nothing. Now to find a surgeon who can fix my neck ASAP so I can rehab and then travel again. When you are in the hospital, they are ready to do surgery immediately. But when you are not, they want you to wait week for a "new patient" appointment geez.

So keep the news and fotos coming. I will contribute again when I can.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about those issues. Get well soon.

This is my Number Four girl, Soft Swirl. She gives the best blow jobs, ever. I called it the Venezuelan Soft Swirl technique in previous posts. I sent her two Gringo friends before Covid, they both said best blow job ever, and on a 1-10 scale one guy gave her a 10 and the other guy an 11. I am thinking about referring her out after we meet tomorrow. I have pussy credit or in this case, blow job credit coming, for the help I gave her during the ongoing Covid crisis. She is eager to pay up. I haven't see her for more than a year because she returned to Venezuela before Covid. Everyone told me I was stupid for sending her money. I broke a lot of my own rules for Covid, and so far, no regrets. Disclaimer: I strongly recommend against ever sending a girl money. My one excuse is I knew them all beforehand and there were in my line up, which has its privileges.

Looks like a couple of the girls from my ranked line-up are avoiding me this trip, and naturally they will lose their spots. So I am not telling you it's a perfect system. I am telling you it works for me and I like my current overall ROI. This past weekend was worth every penny I sent from home the previous nine months. Everything is a win now. Soft Swirl is gorgeous, BTW. I told her to send a pic I could show the front desk and she sent this.

I don't regularly get freaky during my WhatsApp convos, but I must admit, when I dredged up the transcript from Fat Ass, Sweet Pussy Hole that I recently posted, it gave me the idea for this. This is the second time I am trying this Don't-Say-A-Word-And-Drop-To-Your-Knees, theme. The first time was in Bogota over a year ago and it went as planned. I can dig up that transcript, too. As always, I will be stone cold honest with my fellow mongers and report what happened. She doesn't exactly sound thrilled about it, she could easily ghost me. The time frame of 11 A to 5 P is very specific because she is dropping off her mother nearby for some medical testing, same metro exit, what a coincidence.

(3:48 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: Now, you must agree to these terms or we will never see each other.

(3:50 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: When you come, register at reception and leave your cedula. I will have already paid your guest fee.

(3:51 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: This is the important part and you must follow it exactly or I will send you home immediately.

(3:51 PM, 1/18/2021) Soft Swirl: Ok.

(3:52 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: Come to my room, if the door is open, come in. You will see a pillow on the floor. Kneel on the pillow.

(3:53 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: You can look at me but you can't say a word, you can't say Hello, you can't ask how I'm doing, you can't make a sound.

(3:55 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: Start sucking my cock and don't stop until I tell you. That could be in 5 minutes, it could be in 2 hours, I haven't decided.

(3:56 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: When I tell you to stop sucking, you can speak, but not a word before. Is it crystal clear?

(4:05 PM, 1/18/2021) Soft Swirl: Yes.

(4:06 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: Do you understand and agree?

(4:08 PM, 1/18/2021) Soft Swirl: If I understand you, then I will need water and food.

(4:32 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: Don't worry about stupid shit. I'll feed your mouth after you show me how good it can suck.

(4:33 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: If you suck well, I will treat you well.

(4:34 PM, 1/18/2021) Soft Swirl: Ok.

It's all starting to come back to me now. I haven't seen her in over a year. She is not a small woman, in fact she looks about 15 pounds heavier that before, But she has one of the smallest pussies you will see. Why did so many girls get fat when they all wrote me that they were starving and needed money? Jjjajaajajajajaa. Seven out of ten times if you send a chica money, the first thing she is going to buy is drugs, and I don't mean Amoxicillin, jajaja.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;2523285]I appreciate the reports more than ever. I was supposed to be in MDE in early December and then later December. My first trip was cut short by a health problem. I decided to fly back to the USA For that. Cleared that up in 5 days and next day after release I got hit by a car. Broken neck. While taking scans, saw some on pancreas and had to get a biopsy. Luckly, it looks like the pancreas issue is nothing. Now to find a surgeon who can fix my neck ASAP so I can rehab and then travel again. When you are in the hospital, they are ready to do surgery immediately. But when you are not, they want you to wait week for a "new patient" appointment geez.

So keep the news and fotos coming. I will contribute again when I can.[/QUOTE]Wow what a chain of unfortunate circumstances. Hang in there and best of luck.

There is no need to worry about the paisa pussy here in Medellin as we will occupy them until your return.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2523277]Landed on Thursday and walked right into a curfew. Went to La Isla just to have a drink and chill. Only a couple tables filled. Talent was ehhh. Nothing special.

So far I have seen five girls from Facebook they are pretty popular had a threesome.

I am noticing that the Facebook girls are now trying to get $100.

I'm standing firm at 250 mil. With taxi included.

Unless you are grandfathered in I think the days of 150 are gone.

Tomorrow things should be back to somewhat normal.

But since I have two months here I will just relax and wait till the weekend and until then I will just do Facebook girls.[/QUOTE]On the girls that you are choosing. Each guy has his own taste, I know for a fact, these girls need money, especially during the quarantine, but if you somehow feel they need $250,000 pesos and up, then you may just pay that, I have come to the conclusion, I will never pay that rate for an hour, I just don't have a need to, the $150,000 pesos rate is more than enough, but to each their own. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder. Pollo negro is out! See you soon in Medellin!

[QUOTE=JustIncognito;2523102]You do not need atao add the girls as your friends!

You can just click on their profile then send them a direct message. There is no benefit that comes with adding them as friends-other than people not involved in your Colombia activities seeing you have new young hot female friends.

Facebook allows people who are not friends to message each other. These girls all set their pictures to public and not friends only anyway.

I don't understand why people keep saying to add these girls to your friends list. There is no reason to do this. Just message them in Facebook messenger.[/QUOTE]Good point. But then again, I don't understand why I do a lot of the things I do, repeatedly even, jajajajjaa.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2523268]It seems odd that you would think that members on the Medellin board would know where to look for "super hot foreign tourist girls staying at hostels" given that all of us on this board are in the pay pool, not looking for tourists to bang. However probably the highest density of hostels is going to be in and around Poblado with several in the barrios of Provenza and in and around Parque Lleras along with the Manila and Patio Bonito Barrios and a few in Astorga. If you live in Medellin, I suggest you walk around within these areas besides looking on the Internet where to stay. But honestly, seems like a pain in the ass and a waste of time trying to lay a foreigner, and quite frankly, I have rarely seen any hot foreign tourist girls in the areas I've mentioned. Anyways, good luck, and if you hit pay dirt, let us know.[/QUOTE]You're right that the highest concentration of hostels is around Parque Lleras. However, there are also several scattered around Laureles, which I noticed when I was living over there.

At this time, I would think the hostel scene would be pretty dry. With international travel being down, restricted, and requiring PCR tests, the budget backpackers are probably waiting for better days.

Just my own observation on the typical hostel patrons, shaving doesn't always seem to be a high priority. I'm talking armpits and legs.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2523308]On the girls that you are choosing. Each guy has his own taste, I know for a fact, these girls need money, especially during the quarantine, but if you somehow feel they need $250,000 pesos and up, then you may just pay that, I have come to the conclusion, I will never pay that rate for an hour, I just don't have a need to, the $150,000 pesos rate is more than enough, but to each their own. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder. Pollo negro is out! See you soon in Medellin![/QUOTE]Haven't had issues with time. But I hear what you're saying. Maybe the girls I'm aiming are booked or in demand. Idk.

Good thing is I never had time issues or rushed etc. I have to kick them out. LOL.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2523277]Landed on Thursday and walked right into a curfew. Went to La Isla just to have a drink and chill. Only a couple tables filled. Talent was ehhh. Nothing special.

So far I have seen five girls from Facebook they are pretty popular had a threesome.

I am noticing that the Facebook girls are now trying to get $100.

I'm standing firm at 250 mil. With taxi included.

Unless you are grandfathered in I think the days of 150 are gone.

Tomorrow things should be back to somewhat normal.

But since I have two months here I will just relax and wait till the weekend and until then I will just do Facebook girls.[/QUOTE]I ran into this last week when I was in Medellin. It seemed like all the FB girls started with either 250 k or 300 k. I learned quickly to not let them start with crazy numbers. I always shot them 200 k and only a handful of times did I have to add taxi money. Out of 10 new girls only one would not budge much and I ended up having to fork over 250 k but it was for two hours. I couldn't get the 150 k + 20 k for taxi I was able to get regularly two moths ago, even from girls I saw last trip. The days I was able to go outside to LLeras I was able to get better deals so not a complete loss.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2523359]I ran into this last week when I was in Medellin. It seemed like all the FB girls started with either 250 k or 300 k. I learned quickly to not let them start with crazy numbers. I always shot them 200 k and only a handful of times did I have to add taxi money. Out of 10 new girls only one would not budge much and I ended up having to fork over 250 k but it was for two hours. I couldn't get the 150 k + 20 k for taxi I was able to get regularly two moths ago, even from girls I saw last trip. The days I was able to go outside to LLeras I was able to get better deals so not a complete loss.[/QUOTE]I had 2 at 200 and 3 at 250. Haven't had a bad experience yet.

One girl was 250 with taxi.

There is never any time restrictions on my dates and so far.

But I'm one of those guys that don't want the extras. Once I'm done I'm done and want to be alone LOL.

Funny thing is I have free pussy available from a beautiful 20 yo if I wanted but I prefer to pay these girls. Cause I'm paying them to leave.

Not to get jealous and go through my shit LOL.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;2523308]On the girls that you are choosing. Each guy has his own taste, I know for a fact, these girls need money, especially during the quarantine, but if you somehow feel they need $250,000 pesos and up, then you may just pay that, I have come to the conclusion, I will never pay that rate for an hour, I just don't have a need to, the $150,000 pesos rate is more than enough, but to each their own. Beauty is always in the eye of the beholder. Pollo negro is out! See you soon in Medellin![/QUOTE]If you hire unionized labor, you're going to pay union wages, and be subject to conditions and demands dictated by the union, unless a worker willing to break ranks. You either have the time, patience, and skills to negotiate in your favor, or you don't. But to come on the board and say that the days of 150k are passed, you are patently wrong. 150 k is the 50-yardline. Has been for more than 15 years and will continue to be. Exchange rate is 3500:1. Even when it was 2400:1, even 1900:1 , 150 k was the standard. Things have not changed economically here in the past 15 years. In fact, the economy is acutely worse. Also market demand for labor is decreased as there are less visitors. All these things favor lower prices , not higher

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2523261]So much has happened that I can't keep up. What was supposed to be a blue-ball break this past weekend instead turned into a five girl orgy. Unplanned. That is what Medellin does to me. When I think I need to take a break and put a toe back into reality, Medellin says, "No, no, no, think again, I am not done with you, instead we are going to take it to the next level."[/QUOTE]So true and especially so if you live here. I never in my wildest dreams would have thought that I would need to shut off my cell phone and hideaway in my apartment, feels like Howard Hughes, close the drapes and dim the lights so I can get some rest and a break from the chicas hehehehe.

Every time when I am out and about things just appear like out of nowhere, opportunities for new chicas and new experiences. Last night was out a a bar in centro and after feeling out some new prospects, a friend of a friend, I had to quietly sneak over to the parking garage, without any goodbyes, and drive home alone why? Not because I had to but rather because I wanted to just have a break from the chicas for a couple of days.

Just over the past 3 or 4 days, on Thursday night had a 21 yo repeat and blew my load 2 or 3 times with the last being at about 9 AM Friday morning, then on Saturday had a new girl a 20 yo non-pro paisa to my apartment for 3 hours and smashed that then on Sunday had 2 other new and fresh UTR 18 yo's in my apartment for 4 hours and what a wonderful 3-some it was, oh and I pay 100 mil plus taxi and if they don't like this or give me an attitude I will never invite them again.

So 4 chicas in actually 3 days and so yesterday I needed a break BUT there are a dozen who are daily contacting me wanting to play, no wonder my body needs a break.

So today I need to decide which want deserves my time and effort and 100 mil? Is it one of the 5 - 18 yo flacas or the 19 yo slender cutie who looks like Megan Fox, or is it the 22 yo black stripper bodied paisa who rocks my world every of the 3 times I have been with her, or will it be one of the 19 to 26 yo old civie chicas that I have meet through friends of friends?

Damn what problems we have here.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2523465]Things have not changed economically here in the past 15 years. In fact, the economy is acutely worse. Also market demand for labor is decreased as there are less visitors. All these things favor lower prices , not higher[/QUOTE]But you are talking classroom economics, not Southeast Asia and Latin America street economics. Business bad; prices go up to compensate for the loss.

A chica early in South America? WTF? I told her if she hurries, her water will still be cold. And that I cleaned the floor for her. We shall see.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2523300](4:08 PM, 1/18/2021) Soft Swirl: If I understand you, then I will need water and food.

(4:32 PM, 1/18/2021) Osteo: Don't worry about stupid shit. I'll feed your mouth after you show me how good it can suck.[/QUOTE]Hilarious.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2523482]But you are talking classroom economics, not Southeast Asia and Latin America street economics. Business bad; prices go up to compensate for the loss.[/QUOTE]Street economy is a free market economy, regulated by supply and demand. Compensate for the loss jacking up prices when there is no demand? Good luck with that).

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2523491]Street economy is a free market economy, regulated by supply and demand. Compensate for the loss jacking up prices when there is no demand? Good luck with that).[/QUOTE]To be fair if these women all colluded together they could make the prices stick at 250-300 k and you guys would still pay because you seem to hate the Centro scene so you get what the duck gets. I'd argue that what these women are doing is smart, they probably even have their own whatsapp group & making sure everyone stays on code.

The higher the demand for one girl she will simply charge more.

You can negotiate all you want but that can take days until she becomes desperate for money.

Cause this past weekend some of the more in demand girls are asking for 250-300.

Look guys got to be realistic. You're not getting a top notch fb girl for 150 unless you're grandfathered in and she has no other clients.

And yes there are levels of fb girls. While I agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder some girls are just universally seen as more attractive by more men.

The ones that are in demand get their weekend clients here at energy every weekend and it's as simple as that.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2523514]The higher the demand for one girl she will simply charge more.

You can negotiate all you want but that can take days until she becomes desperate for money.

Cause this past weekend some of the more in demand girls are asking for 250-300.

Look guys got to be realistic. You're not getting a top notch fb girl for 150 unless you're grandfathered in and she has no other clients.

And yes there are levels of fb girls. While I agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder some girls are just universally seen as more attractive by more men.

The ones that are in demand get their weekend clients here at energy every weekend and it's as simple as that.[/QUOTE]Before pandemic, some FB girls that I consider hot are already asking for 250. I got the impression that the flight is pretty full. Was your flight full?

El Centro is a local market so it has local price. FB is a gringo market so it has gringo price. These two are not really comparable in that sense. I know in SE Asia places when the foreigners are gone as like now. The price has regressed to local price.

[QUOTE=RudeBwoy100;2523511]To be fair if these women all colluded together they could make the prices stick at 250-300 k and you guys would still pay because you seem to hate the Centro scene so you get what the duck gets. I'd argue that what these women are doing is smart, they probably even have their own whatsapp group & making sure everyone stays on code.[/QUOTE]I have no doubt they communicate with each other. I would get several friend request or messages from girls pretty much every time I saw a new girl. Usually within the first few hours after the meeting was done. If I liked one of them and got them to meet, they would admit that a friend recommended them to contact me. So yeah, the girls definitely talk to each other.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2523524]Before pandemic, some FB girls that I consider hot are already asking for 250. I got the impression that the flight is pretty full. Was your flight full?

El Centro is a local market so it has local price. FB is a gringo market so it has gringo price. These two are not really comparable in that sense. I know in SE Asia places when the foreigners are gone as like now. The price has regressed to local price.[/QUOTE]My flight was not that full but the whole building where I am staying was packed with gringos. And girls were coming in and out all weekend.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2523514]Look guys got to be realistic. You're not getting a top notch fb girl for 150 unless you're grandfathered in and she has no other clients.

And yes there are levels of fb girls. While I agree beauty is in the eye of the beholder some girls are just universally seen as more attractive by more men.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Nounce;2523524]El Centro is a local market so it has local price. FB is a gringo market so it has gringo price. These two are not really comparable in that sense. I know in SE Asia places when the foreigners are gone as like now. The price has regressed to local price.[/QUOTE]For years I had been saying you could get the same damn girl for less and people had always responded impossible. One notorious BM in the Thailand thread had always posted about spending large amounts of money in the clubs every night then taking a chick with him for 5x. His spending was so extravagant that many people thought he was a troll poster regadless of other long time BMs having met up with him and vouched that he does exactly what he reports.

I hung out with him during the lockdown and showed him the ways of the jedeye (not jedi). He ended up getting the exact same chicks for 1x on a normal ass day that he had given 5x to before when they were all dolled up and in that other market. His thing was he liked to see them all fixed up in the party setting versus them showing up at his door with pajamas and flip flops and a baseball cap on for the lower price. They were indeed the same girls though.

[URL]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshhFUXOX55K50E880wL[/URL]

You were right. It doesn't matter who does or does not believe you.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2523591]For years I had been saying you could get the same damn girl for less and people had always responded impossible. One notorious BM in the Thailand thread had always posted about spending large amounts of money in the clubs every night then taking a chick with him for 5x. His spending was so extravagant that many people thought he was a troll poster regadless of other long time BMs having met up with him and vouched that he does exactly what he reports.

I hung out with him during the lockdown and showed him the ways of the jedeye (not jedi). He ended up getting the exact same chicks for 1x on a normal ass day that he had given 5x to before when they were all dolled up and in that other market. His thing was he liked to see them all fixed up in the party setting versus them showing up at his door with pajamas and flip flops and a baseball cap on for the lower price. They were indeed the same girls though.

[URL]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshhFUXOX55K50E880wL[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2523591]For years I had been saying you could get the same damn girl for less and people had always responded impossible. One notorious BM in the Thailand thread had always posted about spending large amounts of money in the clubs every night then taking a chick with him for 5x. His spending was so extravagant that many people thought he was a troll poster regadless of other long time BMs having met up with him and vouched that he does exactly what he reports.

I hung out with him during the lockdown and showed him the ways of the jedeye (not jedi). He ended up getting the exact same chicks for 1x on a normal ass day that he had given 5x to before when they were all dolled up and in that other market. His thing was he liked to see them all fixed up in the party setting versus them showing up at his door with pajamas and flip flops and a baseball cap on for the lower price. They were indeed the same girls though.

[URL]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshhFUXOX55K50E880wL[/URL][/QUOTE]Try telling the girl whose getting gifts like iPhone 12's and bags from LV and taken on vacations and getting monthly stipends from multiple guys that you're paying 150 mil for sex.

She's not taking it. It's common sense. It's all about their life situation.

What happens a lot with these fb girls is the good ones get wifed up by some idiot quick. I've seen it right on this trip. The funny thing is she's not all that but for a fb girl she top tier. Yes I said idiot.

While I'll never make fun of how much a guy spends on a date, to develop a serious relationship with a prostitute is about as dumb as you can get. She's taking in dicks the way I take in protein on my muscle building diet and theses guys really believe they're the only ones.

Then there's the ones who know there's other guys and want the power trip of outdoing them. At the end they all get nothing and the many desired girls of the mongering world are not there to be had.

These are the things that ruin the market.

I'm sure there are many reading this right now that are guilty of this and would never admit it.

But it's a very common occurrence where guys fall for hookers and think they can change their ways.

So while I understand there are always exceptions. I think the reason there are so many disagreements is because of the level of girls we are seeking.

If you're into centro only then it's a different ball game than fb.

If it's fb only than it's a different ball game than La Isla or the high end girls.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2523619]Try telling the girl whose getting gifts like iPhone 12's and bags from LV and taken on vacations and getting monthly stipends from multiple guys that you're paying 150 mil for sex.[/QUOTE]Whether you want to believe it or not it happens. One just needs to be at the right place at the right time. You act like the chicks REQUIRE bags and shit. Read the forum and you will not see that is not the case. The real case is that guys push cell phones, vacations, purfume, stipends, and all other shit on them.

Ain't no levels of girls. All these chicks are from humble beginnings. That is their life situation. But you guys create monsters in the name of impressing hookers. I have been with tons of hookers for cheap that mfs have even bought cars, houses, and businesses for. That shit does not impress or intimidate me in the least bit. But if you insist on leaving them on the pedestal...

So here we are. Guys are stating clearly and no one is disputing that girls they paid 150,000 they are now paying 250,000. Looking at this as objectively as I can by casting aside my Centro rat mentality that 150,000 is much much more than is reasonable, I struggle with the idea that 150,000 is now off the table. It defies logic.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2523619]Try telling the girl whose getting gifts like iPhone 12's and bags from LV and taken on vacations and getting monthly stipends from multiple guys that you're paying 150 mil for sex.

She's not taking it. It's common sense. It's all about their life situation.

What happens a lot with these fb girls is the good ones get wifed up by some idiot quick. I've seen it right on this trip. The funny thing is she's not all that but for a fb girl she top tier. Yes I said idiot.

While I'll never make fun of how much a guy spends on a date, to develop a serious relationship with a prostitute is about as dumb as you can get. She's taking in dicks the way I take in protein on my muscle building diet and theses guys really believe they're the only ones.

Then there's the ones who know there's other guys and want the power trip of outdoing them. At the end they all get nothing and the many desired girls of the mongering world are not there to be had.

These are the things that ruin the market..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2523629]Whether you want to believe it or not it happens. One just needs to be at the right place at the right time. You act like the chicks REQUIRE bags and shit. Read the forum and you will not see that is not the case. The real case is that guys push cell phones, vacations, purfume, stipends, and all other shit on them.

Ain't no levels of girls. All these chicks are from humble beginnings. That is their life situation. But you guys create monsters in the name of impressing hookers. I have been with tons of hookers for cheap that mfs have even bought cars, houses, and businesses for. That shit does not impress or intimidate me in the least bit. But if you insist on leaving them on the pedestal...[/QUOTE]Like I said it's all situational. You're not getting the girl for no 150 mil if she has 3 dates lined up for 600 mil. Yea maybe eventually you will see her at your price when she doesn't have anyone lined up.

This is the situation I'm encountering rn.

I never said I'm the one buy them shit. But I can see their sm stories.

And I speak to them.

So you want to tell me she going to come to you on your time if she has 3 dates for quadruple what you're offering? Ok!!

And yes there are levels of girls.

The same way Beyoncé is a on a different level than Wendy Williams. There are levels.

But let me guess under the make up they're all the same??

Context: Discussing the possibility of a sugar situation. Clarify that I'm looking for a trio, not a SB.

PP: If I see both of you and we spend a good time together, what will I receive?

Me: Well, normally it's free, with her friends. Other times I pay 200.000.

PP: No gracias.

Me: Ok well you tell me.

PP: $130 USD for 2 hours + taxis.

Me: I don't have USD, sorry.

PP: Ok, 350.000 COP + taxis.

Current COP value of $130 USD: 454.000.

And that, is a Paisa Puta Math Test.

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2523641]Context: Discussing the possibility of a sugar situation. Clarify that I'm looking for a trio, not a SB.

PP: If I see both of you and we spend a good time together, what will I receive?

Me: Well, normally it's free, with her friends. Other times I pay 200.000.

PP: No gracias.

Me: Ok well you tell me.

PP: $130 USD for 2 hours + taxis.

Me: I don't have USD, sorry.

PP: Ok, 350.000 COP + taxis.

Current COP value of $130 USD: 454.000.

And that, is a Paisa Puta Math Test.[/QUOTE]When girl mentions US dollar I say what's that your on cop, but some of this Guys don't understand that, this is pic of a girl I bang all the time when their for 200 k no rush on her Facebook page,.

Soft Swirl was NOT early, so we did not have to realign the earth's axis for the wobble that would have occurred in the time-space-continuum when a chica showed up on time, for the first time in the recorded annals of history.

I am 10 days deep into non-stop sex, drugs (drugs did not start until day 7) and rock and roll. I am in that sleep deprived state borderlining on psychosis, so I am going to crash and reboot. I will write details later with more pics. Everything went great, she stuck to the script.

Shout out to fellow mongerer RiceRocket99, great meeting you, Soft Swirl thought you were super nice. Thanks for keeping her interest up with your fluent Spanish, your timing was spot on. RiceRocket99 proves what I always knew, that there are pros out there playing the game with a silent sophistication that holds up on any level, and who could teach me A LOT. They just don't have the same attention-whoring needs for which I seek near constant gratification.

More later. Don't hate me. Flame is on her way over. I will get 60 minutes sleep. She fucks for free and she is good at it. "Free" defined as I will slip a her a 50 for "taxi" and feed her. And she has a nose like a Hoover. That is Soft Swirl changing, you can see the top of the same water bottle from the previous picture. Flame is in the white cootchie shorts. That is some sweet, prime, just turned 18 years old, cedula confirmed, fat white ass. The game changer is, she worships the ground I walk on. I don't deserve it, but as Clint Eastwood said to Gene Hackman in Unforgiven, right before he blew his head off, "Deserve's got nuthin' to do with it."

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2523591]For years I had been saying you could get the same damn girl for less and people had always responded impossible. One notorious BM in the Thailand thread had always posted about spending large amounts of money in the clubs every night then taking a chick with him for 5x. His spending was so extravagant that many people thought he was a troll poster regadless of other long time BMs having met up with him and vouched that he does exactly what he reports.

I hung out with him during the lockdown and showed him the ways of the jedeye (not jedi). He ended up getting the exact same chicks for 1x on a normal ass day that he had given 5x to before when they were all dolled up and in that other market. His thing was he liked to see them all fixed up in the party setting versus them showing up at his door with pajamas and flip flops and a baseball cap on for the lower price. They were indeed the same girls though.

[URL]https://m.worldstarhiphop.com/web/video.php?v=wshhFUXOX55K50E880wL[/URL][/QUOTE]All due respect Mr. E, but I don't see a girl used to getting top dollar going for 1/5th of her rate if that is what she is used to getting unless she's very desperate. Maybe that's common in Thailand, but not in Colombia, and yes girls go for more and less, but not with such a wide spread in the multiplier.

So what your saying, which I find hard to believe, is that you showed a guy how to get a girl that he had paid for in the past "the exact same one", lets say for discussion purposes 100, to subsequently go with him for 20, the same exact girl.

This must beg the question at least in the girl's mind, "he paid me 100 before, why should I accept so much less now to go with him?

If you indeed pulled this off, then clearly your a Jedi, and I will fly you down to Medellin, I will put you up, and you can train me in your ways and will start at Gustos and Lleras, then we can go to El Centro and maybe get some 30 K girls to go for 8 K. Now your talking!

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2523641]Context: Discussing the possibility of a sugar situation. Clarify that I'm looking for a trio, not a SB.

PP: If I see both of you and we spend a good time together, what will I receive?

Me: Well, normally it's free, with her friends. Other times I pay 200.000.

PP: No gracias.

Me: Ok well you tell me.

PP: $130 USD for 2 hours + taxis.

Me: I don't have USD, sorry.

PP: Ok, 350.000 COP + taxis.

Current COP value of $130 USD: 454.000.

And that, is a Paisa Puta Math Test.[/QUOTE]Red flag warning! Any girl in Medellin quoting in USD should be avoided, bad session guaranteed with lots of rules!

[QUOTE=SlapShot10;2523641]Context: Discussing the possibility of a sugar situation. Clarify that I'm looking for a trio, not a SB.

PP: If I see both of you and we spend a good time together, what will I receive?

Me: Well, normally it's free, with her friends. Other times I pay 200.000.

PP: No gracias.

Me: Ok well you tell me.

PP: $130 USD for 2 hours + taxis.

Me: I don't have USD, sorry.

PP: Ok, 350.000 COP + taxis.

Current COP value of $130 USD: 454.000.

And that, is a Paisa Puta Math Test.[/QUOTE]Give them time. With more opportunities to charge in dollars will come increased familiarity with exchange rates. Though it likely will be more in tune with the rate they can get at a currency exchange business, which BTW is much lower than the rate you have in mind.

[URL]http://unicambios.com.co/servicios/[/URL]#serv0.

Facts, these are facts.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2523629]Whether you want to believe it or not it happens. One just needs to be at the right place at the right time. You act like the chicks REQUIRE bags and shit. Read the forum and you will not see that is not the case. The real case is that guys push cell phones, vacations, purfume, stipends, and all other shit on them.

Ain't no levels of girls. All these chicks are from humble beginnings. That is their life situation. But you guys create monsters in the name of impressing hookers. I have been with tons of hookers for cheap that mfs have even bought cars, houses, and businesses for. That shit does not impress or intimidate me in the least bit. But if you insist on leaving them on the pedestal...[/QUOTE]

10 pm til 5 am curfew until next Tuesday.

Unless they change it to a lockdown again.

This is just dumb. It's not preventing anything.

Look at this genius. She's not even that hot I was shopping around.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2523632]So here we are. Guys are stating clearly and no one is disputing that girls they paid 150,000 they are now paying 250,000. Looking at this as objectively as I can by casting aside my Centro rat mentality that 150,000 is much much more than is reasonable, I struggle with the idea that 150,000 is now off the table. It defies logic.[/QUOTE]Exactly, if I wanted to pay over 250 k cop for a chick I would stay and monger in the states. Seriously anybody paying over $50 usd to bust a nut in Colombia, you're getting played. Unless your pockets are deep and you don't care, more power to you.

Osteoknot, great posts, keep them coming man. Much appreciated. Be there in 3 weeks.

[QUOTE=RacShack;2523659]When girl mentions US dollar I say what's that your on cop, but some of this Guys don't understand that, this is pic of a girl I bang all the time when their for 200 k no rush on her Facebook page,.[/QUOTE]Pic of all her US dollars.

[QUOTE=RacShack;2523687]Pic of all her US dollars.[/QUOTE]Lmao let's be real. That's not her pic. I've seen girls post pics of money. And even with what's in that pic it's enough for her not to be a hooker in Colombia anymore.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2523698]Lmao let's be real. That's not her pic. I've seen girls post pics of money. And even with what's in that pic it's enough for her not to be a hooker in Colombia anymore.[/QUOTE]LOL, come on it's hers, the plastic bag tells it all! Stay safe buddy!

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2523632]So here we are. Guys are stating clearly and no one is disputing that girls they paid 150,000 they are now paying 250,000. Looking at this as objectively as I can by casting aside my Centro rat mentality that 150,000 is much much more than is reasonable, I struggle with the idea that 150,000 is now off the table. It defies logic.[/QUOTE]Or need to pay more than $150,000 pesos for 2-3 hours everything included. Hats off to mongers paying more, until you show me evident proof that the date resulted in more than a nut, I'm with knowledge, it defies logic!! Pollo negro is out!

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2523686]Exactly, if I wanted to pay over 250 k cop for a chick I would stay and monger in the states. Seriously anybody paying over $50 usd to bust a nut in Colombia, you're getting played. Unless your pockets are deep and you don't care, more power to you.

Osteoknot, great posts, keep them coming man. Much appreciated. Be there in 3 weeks.[/QUOTE]Haha trust me, the women you could get in California for $50 are women you don't want to get haha. I will be happy to continue to pay my 200 K in Medellin for girls that are smoking hot than try any of the crack heads I could get for the same price in the states.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2523680]Look at this genius. She's not even that hot I was shopping around.[/QUOTE]She may be smarter than you think, as she may have snagged a guy in the past for a crazy price, no different than a blind squirrel finding an acorn.

Or, for whatever reason, she doesn't want to go with you, hence the ridiculous price she gave you.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2523680]Look at this genius. She's not even that hot I was shopping around.[/QUOTE]I tried to contact her when I was there last week but she ignored me. Thanks for letting me know It would have been a waste of time haha.

It was cool meeting up with you too, Osteoknot. I always enjoy putting a face to the posts of a fellow monger and sharing war stories. I like your writing style that's for sure. You're far too kind, I'm def not a pro in the game by any means. I'm still trying to get to the next level whatever that is for me. Learning the language, the cultural norms, making the chicas laugh and be comfortable around you goes a long way. But there are those you just don't connect with that well no matter how you try and you just brush it off and onto the next. Cheers to all who are here in MDE and those on their way! BTW, the pictures don’t do justice to Soft Swirl, she’s def prettier in person and has a sweet personality that goes with it. She’s def a keeper bro!

Yes, curfew starts Wednesday 10 pm-5 am each day until Tuesday. No complete lockdown on weekend. Not yet at least. Def not holding my breath on that.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2523662]Soft Swirl was NOT early, so we did not have to realign the earth's axis for the wobble that would have occurred in the time-space-continuum when a chica showed up on time, for the first time in the recorded annals of history.

I am 10 days deep into non-stop sex, drugs (drugs did not start until day 7) and rock and roll. I am in that sleep deprived state borderlining on psychosis, so I am going to crash and reboot. I will write details later with more pics. Everything went great, she stuck to the script.

Shout out to fellow mongerer RiceRocket99, great meeting you, Soft Swirl thought you were super nice. Thanks for keeping her interest up with your fluent Spanish, your timing was spot on. RiceRocket99 proves what I always knew, that there are pros out there playing the game with a silent sophistication that holds up on any level, and who could teach me A LOT. They just don't have the same attention-whoring needs for which I seek near constant gratification.

More later. Don't hate me. Flame is on her way over. I will get 60 minutes sleep. She fucks for free and she is good at it. "Free" defined as I will slip a her a 50 for "taxi" and feed her. And she has a nose like a Hoover. That is Soft Swirl changing, you can see the top of the same water bottle from the previous picture. Flame is in the white cootchie shorts. That is some sweet, prime, just turned 18 years old, cedula confirmed, fat white ass. The game changer is, she worships the ground I walk on. I don't deserve it, but as Clint Eastwood said to Gene Hackman in Unforgiven, right before he blew his head off, "Deserve's got nuthin' to do with it."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2523632]So here we are. Guys are stating clearly and no one is disputing that girls they paid 150,000 they are now paying 250,000. Looking at this as objectively as I can by casting aside my Centro rat mentality that 150,000 is much much more than is reasonable, I struggle with the idea that 150,000 is now off the table. It defies logic.[/QUOTE]Something does sound very off if guys are now paying 100 K more than before when there is an acute shortage of customers due to the Pandemic.

My bet is perhaps a few guys are paying more, and maybe this could be disputed, as logic would dictate that the pricing would be less, not more than before.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2523716]Haha trust me, the women you could get in California for $50 are women you don't want to get haha. I will be happy to continue to pay my 200 K in Medellin for girls that are smoking hot than try any of the crack heads I could get for the same price in the states.[/QUOTE]I think this is the issue we have.

We all have different reasons for mongering in Colombia.


Some guys are here strictly for the price of pussy and have absolute no care in how the girls look.

I have my own standards. Not saying it's the standard but it's mine just like my money to spend.

But too much disrespecting going on.

I'm giving a detailed honest on the ground report for the fb girls.

If you're not about that then move on and don't judge me or others who use this method.

If I was doing all Gusto girls and I'm paying 200 usd. There are mongers who would find this info useful.

But stop fucking hating and judging others. Stay in your lane. If you're a centro hobbyist then the centro posts are for you etc etc.

[QUOTE=BootyBandit84;2523718]I tried to contact her when I was there last week but she ignored me. Thanks for letting me know It would have been a waste of time haha.[/QUOTE]How do you even negotiate from that starting point lmao. I straight told her 200 mil she said 300 mil. So Puta Paisa Math at its finest. Needless to say I won't see her.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2523662]I am 10 days deep into non-stop sex, drugs (drugs did not start until day 7) and rock and roll. [/QUOTE]Colombia Will Expel Foreigners Caught Partying As Virus Spreads:

[URL]https://www.barrons.com/news/colombia-will-expel-foreigners-caught-partying-as-virus-spreads-01611028807?[/URL]

I'm sure we have beat this topic to death, but everyone rolls their own and different way in MDE. To those Centro mongers, paying 200-250 mil may seem ridiculous. But it's about the experience, the connection, the talent, the time, and much more. Yes, there's still girls in the 150 mil range that I know and I can pay that because I'm pretty much grandfathered in like SangNyc21 put it, so I get the chino paisa discount jajaja. Osteoknot knows what I'm talking about since we met earlier today to shoot the shit. He knows the type and talent of chicas I go after and you're not going to find them in Centro that's for sure. Well, except for the diamonds in the rough I guess.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWalker55;2523686]Exactly, if I wanted to pay over 250 k cop for a chick I would stay and monger in the states. Seriously anybody paying over $50 usd to bust a nut in Colombia, you're getting played. Unless your pockets are deep and you don't care, more power to you.

Osteoknot, great posts, keep them coming man. Much appreciated. Be there in 3 weeks.[/QUOTE]

Just have some pesos to pay them off, and party continues.

[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;2523736]Colombia Will Expel Foreigners Caught Partying As Virus Spreads:

[URL]https://www.barrons.com/news/colombia-will-expel-foreigners-caught-partying-as-virus-spreads-01611028807?[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2523742]Just have some pesos to pay them off, and party continues.[/QUOTE]I think this is to get rid of Venezuelans.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2523663]So what your saying, which I find hard to believe, is that you showed a guy how to get a girl that he had paid for in the past "the exact same one", lets say for discussion purposes 100, to subsequently go with him for 20, the same exact girl.

This must beg the question at least in the girl's mind, "he paid me 100 before, why should I accept so much less now to go with him?[/QUOTE]LOL. He got them at the clubs they worked at the first time. Second time he got them from the dating site that hookers use to get customers when they were off work.

[QUOTE]Finally, after my 9 or so years mongering in Thailand. I found a GoGo Bar girl (Dolls Agogo) willing to fuck for 800 baht ST. I got so excited, I LINEd Mr. E and told him and XXL of my gem. So all those who doubted Mr. E that stuff like this doesn't happen, it happened. And to xxxxxx at that. Must be the end of the world.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2523744]LOL. He got them at the clubs they worked at the first time. Second time he got them from the dating site that hookers use to get customers when they were off work.[/QUOTE]Come on Mr. E let's tell the full story. MP paid the high prices during normal times pre-covid and always in the gogo's because he enjoyed playing the big man on campus splashing his dad's money around.

Post Covid his allowance was cut and yes you helped a young guy learn how to use social media (Thai Friendly) to find the same girls after most gogos got shut down due to Covid. Or they were open with no customers so the girls did not want to work in the clubs anymore. Are all the Pattaya gogos still shut down? I quit reading that forum a few months ago when my next trip was cancelled due to Covid.

Anyhow you know better than anyone you cannot compare pre-covid to post-covid prices in Pattaya, Thailand. Can we agree on this?

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2523680]Look at this genius. She's not even that hot I was shopping around.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she trolling that's all. Either that or with ever 20 such responses she finding her chump. But seriously I think many of us wouldn't pay that for her Stateside!

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2523663]All due respect Mr. E, but I don't see a girl used to getting top dollar going for 1/5th of her rate if that is what she is used to getting unless she's very desperate. Maybe that's common in Thailand, but not in Colombia, and yes girls go for more and less, but not with such a wide spread in the multiplier.

So what your saying, which I find hard to believe, is that you showed a guy how to get a girl that he had paid for in the past "the exact same one", lets say for discussion purposes 100, to subsequently go with him for 20, the same exact girl.

This must beg the question at least in the girl's mind, "he paid me 100 before, why should I accept so much less now to go with him?

If you indeed pulled this off, then clearly your a Jedi, and I will fly you down to Medellin, I will put you up, and you can train me in your ways and will start at Gustos and Lleras, then we can go to El Centro and maybe get some 30 K girls to go for 8 K. Now your talking![/QUOTE]It's true. Go to Pattaya thread to search for "Monkey" to find posts. It's not a universal method. As Mr E put it that you need to be at the right place and right time. Right time in this context being lockdown, I guess.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2523728]I think this is the issue we have.

We all have different reasons for mongering in Colombia

But stop fucking hating and judging others. Stay in your lane. If you're a centro hobbyist then the centro posts are for you etc etc.[/QUOTE]Great post Sangnyc21! "stay in your lane" I love that line it's perfect for guys reading here.

I'm in Medellin for the winter and banging FB chicas and friends of friends of friends of FB chicas LOL. I give them all "250 mil incluyendo de Ubers". Also banging some SA chicas for the same deal. Some take that offer and others do not. No big deal either way there is so much pussy here.

One thing I think is different with the better looking FB chicas is how often they work. I always ask them and they have to stop and think about the last time they were with a gringo. Or maybe they would be good poker players LOL because they are pretty convincing. But I tend to believe most as they are willing to share many details of lives. And have little or no shame for selling ass.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2523757]Anyhow you know better than anyone you cannot compare pre-covid to post-covid prices in Pattaya, Thailand. Can we agree on this?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Nounce;2523765]It's true. Go to Pattaya thread to search for "Monkey" to find posts. It's not a universal method. As Mr E put it that you need to be at the right place and right time. Right time in this context being lockdown, I guess.[/QUOTE]Not at all. Remember I have been saying and doing this years before any lockdown. Lockdown was only the thing that made guys end up trying (because they no longer had a club to go to) it instead of considering impossible and never even attempting to go that route. I also suggested guys check out the market because all the chicks go there to get food before work and they could talk to them and exchange info. But for some reason guys have always acted like the expensive club or bar is the only place they could meet chicks and every other way was like kryptonite.

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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2523849]Not at all. Remember I have been saying and doing this years before any lockdown. Lockdown was only the thing that made guys end up trying (because they no longer had a club to go to) it instead of considering impossible and never even attempting to go that route. I also suggested guys check out the market because all the chicks go there to get food before work and they could talk to them and exchange info. But for some reason guys have always acted like the expensive club or bar is the only place they could meet chicks and every other way was like kryptonite.[/QUOTE]Your approach is like using a machine gun. It works but it is different from using a sniper rifle. You will get one of them because you cast a wide net and you are patience with time. I think you are pretty charming too, haha. If you tell me you can get EVERY girl at the price you pay ANYTIME, then I will say I am wrong.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2523629]Ain't no levels of girls. All these chicks are from humble beginnings. That is their life situation. But you guys create monsters in the name of impressing hookers. I have been with tons of hookers for cheap that mfs have even bought cars, houses, and businesses for. That shit does not impress or intimidate me in the least bit. But if you insist on leaving them on the pedestal...[/QUOTE]Thailand soapies have different pricing for girls. Macau saunas have tiered pricing depending on appearance, ethnicity or race. Japan has a tiered pricing too. I think these are all levels. Do you want to be paid the same as your coworker who doesn't perform as well as you on the job?

I understand sometimes levels doesn't make sense but sometimes it does. Last year I was in another country. I have a list of girls that has a 3 pricing tiers based on look. I went thru a lot of them over a few months. What I found out is the mid-tier girls perform the best and are the most reliable. The highest price girls are flaky, sometimes good, sometimes bad even for the same girl. In those cases, higher price is not worth it. The mid-tier price is best because they are hot enough for me and offer the same level of service that is provided by the lowest tier that usually are older or out of shape.

[QUOTE=Knowledge;2523632]So here we are. Guys are stating clearly and no one is disputing that girls they paid 150,000 they are now paying 250,000.[/QUOTE]It's the story of the guy who is so desperate and eager to please people he's never met before by giving them his best chica contacts.

Then six months later he wonders why the chica he paid 150 k now is asking for 250 k.

It's simple logic: If you find a gem, what do you gain from giving away that gem to somebody you've never met before "just because"?

Some guys here will be like "plenty of chicas everywhere. What's the big deal about giving a few contacts away"?

And those will be the same guys in your DM trying to get your contacts since they've burned through all of theirs, lmao!

Soft Swirl followed the script to the letter and it was a great turn on. However, with all my Tough Guy talk, when she started going down on me I put a towel over my face and she thought I was laughing at her, but really I was crying. Not wanting to get Vagina Of The Year Award, I quickly pulled it together in about thirty seconds and pulled her into my arms and we started talking for the first time in over a year. I ended up with my knees on the pillow eating out her pussy, way more than hers. Irony! The drugs and sleep deprivation accentuated my emotions. It was never about the blow job. It was about establishing boundaries and control after a long separation; and she needed to know her fuckin' Boss was back in town, and she needs to adjust her life accordingly. Jajajaja, I am so good at Tough Talk when she is not standing right in front or me.

Our friction in the past stemmed from my perception that she is so blatantly mercenary, always bare-backing me and trying every trick to get me to put my "leche en dentro profunda" and finally achieve her long term goal of getting pregnant by me. This is also a huge turn-on. She accepts that we would not get married but she would be more than happy with the Love Child connection and it's attendant responsibilities. I have no doubts she would sink her hooks into me as deep as she could, including any legal angle she could use to her advantage.

The reason I had not seen her in so long was she returned to Venezuela. I gave her some money for the trip and then I left Medellin before she got back and did not get to collect on any pussy or mouth credits. I resented that. I probably gave her more money than I should have, but then ask yourselves two things: How much is the best blowjob of your life worth to you? How much pleasure did I got of our little Power Play today?

Because she was up to her old tricks, I got one back on her and faked my orgasm which I thankfully had not to pull off for decades. I surprised myself with my performance and a split second after the last fake orgasmic plunge, I pulled out and laughed hard in her face, "No real! No real!. No leche! No leche! Jaajajajajajaja!" She thought it was funny, and gave me a sincere chuckle.

She got fat but she still looks great. I can deal with a fat ass and a tiny just about any time.

Finally a light bulb went off in my head. All my girls so far except for Sexy Dexy have gained 10-20 pounds. Duh, Because of the quarantine, they are sitting on their asses at home instead of out and about walking the mountainous terrain that is Medellin. That'll do it, every time.

Her blowjob skills are out of practice. She was good but not great like before. She wouldn't let me stick it up her ass saying I was the last person there over a year ago and we need to take it slower that I was obviously in the mood for at that moment. Irrelevant if her story about that was true or not, but I happen to believe her.

Before I consider turning her out, she will need to get her mouth and tongue muscles back up to speed. I will coach her. She will do anything I ask from her. You can see from her pose she is not shy, more like an exhibitionist. She did not ask for one peso and I gave her 100 and she acted happy to get it, no taxi fare, she took the metro. I bought her a nice lunch at La Chaparral 70, based on that one meal I can't recommend the place. She said her ribs were "no good. " I've heard there is some good food to be found there, we missed it.

The purpose of going there was to meet up with RiceRocket99 from here and we're glad we did. I generally avoid Gringos (is it okay to call you that, jeje?) but RiceRocket99 is a welcome exception to that rule. He gave me that, "I got your back" vibe that is essential in a fellow mongerer.

She had made me a sandwich and brought it to me which was sweet and in fact was the first thing I had eaten in over a day. We spent all afternoon together, 3 different sex episodes. She did a tiny bump of 2 See up each side and then made her silly and giggly. She left when my hallucinations were just starting from my sleep deprivation and I crashed.

She wanted to return early this morning but La Gacela threw me a curve and WassApped me she is coming by this morning. I thought La Gacela was switching to a day shift, but apparently not yet.

Flame and Paisa Girl stopped by in the evening after my first power nap for some chill time. I told them I did not want to pay one peso. They agreed. Final bill. Hotel guest fee 20 mil COP X 2; domicilio and taxi fare another 50; and she did a wonderful baby girl crying act that had to be seen to be believed, and got another 70 out of me for delivery of 2 see that I let her keep. Total damages 160 for "not wanting to spend one peso," for two cute, cedula confirmed, 18 year old chicas, who wanted to have sex but I was too tired. Oh yeah, add another 15 mil COP for a pot pipe and a mask I gave to Flame. I would be happy with that deal anytime although probably better if I am not on the tail-end of a ten-day bender when I do it! Soft Swirl just needs some Mattress Olympics training and she will quickly be back up to speed. I happen to know just the Guy who can give it to her. Mi.

I reupped for another week at my hotel, during which time my Numero Uno Novia Cat Girl will believe I am just arriving into MDE, sort of.

I usually find the the best price on line. Not this time. The online price on line looked a little high. Went downstairs, girl gave me a rate 100 mil COP cheaper for one week. Worth checking, odd.

Usually it's the opposite.

Gratuitous foto.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2523854]Your approach is like using a machine gun. It works but it is different from using a sniper rifle. You will get one of them because you cast a wide net and you are patience with time. I think you are pretty charming too, haha. If you tell me you can get EVERY girl at the price you pay ANYTIME, then I will say I am wrong.[/QUOTE]I think I already cleared this up, he is a Jedi. In Thailand if you pull a girl from a go-go the house is taking a cut, nowadays, if there are no go-go's then I can see a guy paying 20% of the go-go price when in reality it may only be half to the girl not 1/5th, hence the analogy was flawed, with my remarks being this is Colombia, not Thailand, hence it's like comparing apples to oranges and my invite to Mr. E on my nickel to Medellin to teach me the way of the Jedi!

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2523870]I reupped for another week at my hotel, during which time my Numero Uno Novia Cat Girl will believe I am just arriving into MDE, sort of.

I usually find the the best price on line. Not this time. The online price on line looked a little high. Went downstairs, girl gave me a rate 100 mil COP cheaper for one week. Worth checking, odd.

Usually it's the opposite.

Gratuitous foto.[/QUOTE]So which Hotel are you in, and there's a joiner fee of 20 K for each visitor? Also, what is the weekly rate you got. Please advise. Thanks.

My testing center just sends me an email. I figured I'd print it out but I don't know if they would accept that?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2523629]Ain't no levels of girls. All these chicks are from humble beginnings. [/QUOTE]Then in reverse. There are no different levels of guys. The 2 week millionaires are the same as the Centro rat pensioners. Wow! Who knew!

I just purchased a one way ticket on Jetblue from LAX to MDE for the third week of February and noticed roundtrip flights on Jetblue for as low as $ 350 roundtrip for departures in the last week of February leaving midweek and returning midweek two weeks later. I actually used points to purchase the one way ticket, and it was approximately 8,000 points but when I went to "check out", it said it was only 4,000 points. In checking the one way price in dollars, it was like $ 150 USD so I don't know if there is a glitch in the Jetblue system, but I got charged only 4,000 points so I guess I got a one way fare of around $ 75 USD however I did pay for upgraded seats which did cost more than that. Given that I used points I cancel at anytime with no penalties, and the flight leaves at 11:55 PM with a 1:40 layover in FLL, so a perfect connection time. There were a lot of other flight options available, with Spirit actually being a little cheaper but Jetblue is much better all around. Now is a good time to buy flights being refundable with no penalties.

I have taken Spirit with the PCR requirement in place. Just be sure the e-mail includes your name, date of the test, and the negative result. Be sure the e-mail indicates PCR.

[QUOTE=Kinosellis;2523907]My testing center just sends me an email. I figured I'd print it out but I don't know if they would accept that?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2523678]10 pm til 5 am curfew until next Tuesday.

Unless they change it to a lockdown again.

This is just dumb. It's not preventing anything.[/QUOTE]Check the adjacent municipalities Envigado, Itagui, Sabaneta, possibly Bello, they were open last Friday night and Saturday day time.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2523900]So which Hotel are you in, and there's a joiner fee of 20 K for each visitor? Also, what is the weekly rate you got. Please advise. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've asked him also PMand no response, some people don't like to share this information, I understand, I used to brag about a place when traveling and before you know it you can never get a room their when needed, but all your buddies are their having a blast and your staying down the road, LOL, stay safe guys!

[QUOTE=Kinosellis;2523907]My testing center just sends me an email. I figured I'd print it out but I don't know if they would accept that?[/QUOTE]I traveled to Medellin last October and everyone accepted a printed copy of the test results. I had the test done at two places. Both places sent an email with their letterhead and the results. I don't know what you have, but if it's only a text email, I doubt it will be accepted.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2523971]Check the adjacent municipalities Envigado, Itagui, Sabaneta, possibly Bello, they were open last Friday night and Saturday day time.[/QUOTE]This particular curfew was for the whole Department of Antioquia. Also last week was dry law with a strict weekend curfew so I'm quite sure they were breaking the rules along with all the girls that came to see me as well. 😂.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2523900]So which Hotel are you in, and there's a joiner fee of 20 K for each visitor? Also, what is the weekly rate you got. Please advise. Thanks.[/QUOTE]There are 3 Ayenda hotels on or one block off the main drag of Avenida 70, and I have stayed at all three and recommend all three. The Imperio 70 Ayenda 1234 is closest to the metro. Ayenda 1228 Balcones de la 70 is at the opposite end of the Avenida 70, but still not a bad walk from the metro, and you don't have to cross the eight-lane Avenida San Juan to get to Exito (supermarket). Gran Imperio is in between, one block over has a nicest outdoor cafe of the three, and is usually the cheapest. I will never post exactly where I am staying.

They all charge 20 mil COP guest fee / 24 hours. Subject to change. I negotiated that the fee covers ANY one girl at a time in a 24 period. In other words, you should be able to bring in as many girls as you want, one at time, as long as they don't overlap for 20 mil COP per day or book double occupancy. If you start stacking them, then you have to pay per chica. 3 girl maximum per Room. The easiest was around that is to simply book another Room for <$20 USD and now you can have six girls in a Room, or split them up however you want. And the hotel made me to stop and catch my breath when I was on my sixth girl in one 24 period in a single room.

I get double discount, first from the Booking site I use for the hotel, and then "Ayenda Dollars" directly from the chain so my prices are rock bottom. For YOU Surfer, I went back down to the desk and axed them what my rate was for the week, since frankly I don't keep track - 249 mil COP, 6 nights. What I was trying to point out was the DIFFERENCE of 100 mil COP for the week between the online price and the cheaper price at the front desk. In the past the better price was on line but not this time. Clear as mud? I might be a little punchy. I slept last night night but I did not repay the deficit in full. I had to send Soft Swirl down the back staircase while La Gacela came up the front. The girl at the front desk helped me out a lot and kept La Gacela in front of her while Soft Swirl went out the back. THAT is what you call guest friendly and much appreciated.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2523740]I'm sure we have beat this topic to death, but everyone rolls their own and different way in MDE. To those Centro mongers, paying 200-250 mil may seem ridiculous. But it's about the experience, the connection, the talent, the time, and much more. Yes, there's still girls in the 150 mil range that I know and I can pay that because I'm pretty much grandfathered in like SangNyc21 put it, so I get the chino paisa discount jajaja. Osteoknot knows what I'm talking about since we met earlier today to shoot the shit. He knows the type and talent of chicas I go after and you're not going to find them in Centro that's for sure. Well, except for the diamonds in the rough I guess.[/QUOTE]There is a old Chinese guy who frequents centro a lot and will haggle you if he finds out you pay more than 80 k for anyone.

I plan to extend my 90 day (for another 90 days) and I'm doing some research on it. It seems I can do it online, just need to show 1) passport photo 2) tourist stamp photo 3) ticket of onward travel. I've read that with the pandemic that it's not a guarantee that it will be approved. Anyone here has experience with this? Thanks for any info.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;2524006]I plan to extend my 90 day (for another 90 days) and I'm doing some research on it. It seems I can do it online, just need to show 1) passport photo 2) tourist stamp photo 3) ticket of onward travel. I've read that with the pandemic that it's not a guarantee that it will be approved. Anyone here has experience with this? Thanks for any info.[/QUOTE]I have extended on several occasions. The process begins on-line, but I always have to make a trip to the Migracióand office to complete the process. The last time was in March, less than a week before the world went crazy. So, things might have changed regarding the tourist visa extension. I've made 2 trips (with credit card charges due at time of service) in the past 6 weeks regarding my current visa application. Waiting for a 3rd and hopefully final appointment. The system is a mess right now. If you're interested in professional support, send pm To me and I'll give you a reliable contact.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2523863]It's the story of the guy who is so desperate and eager to please people he's never met before by giving them his best chica contacts.

Then six months later he wonders why the chica he paid 150 k now is asking for 250 k.

It's simple logic: If you find a gem, what do you gain from giving away that gem to somebody you've never met before "just because"?

Some guys here will be like "plenty of chicas everywhere. What's the big deal about giving a few contacts away"?

And those will be the same guys in your DM trying to get your contacts since they've burned through all of theirs, lmao![/QUOTE]It takes a while for guys being burnt by giving away the few gems they can come up with and seeing the negative results of their actions.

In my mind I give a lot of info to help people but I draw the line at sending gems away to guys I don't know.

The other thing that burns me up is what happened to me years ago in Mayorista. I was sitting at a table and a guy comes out of a taxi and asks me to help him get a girl. He showed me the one he liked. I made the deal for him as he had zero Spanish. He then takes the girl to a taxi and leaves with her. Not a two word thank you to me.

Thanks for the info. Will send PM, appreciate it.

[QUOTE=SpiderRider;2524017]I have extended on several occasions. The process begins on-line, but I always have to make a trip to the Migraciand office to complete the process. The last time was in March, less than a week before the world went crazy. So, things might have changed regarding the tourist visa extension. I've made 2 trips (with credit card charges due at time of service) in the past 6 weeks regarding my current visa application. Waiting for a 3rd and hopefully final appointment. The system is a mess right now. If you're interested in professional support, send pm To me and I'll give you a reliable contact.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SavePros321;2523863]It's the story of the guy who is so desperate and eager to please people he's never met before by giving them his best chica contacts.

Then six months later he wonders why the chica he paid 150 k now is asking for 250 k.

It's simple logic: If you find a gem, what do you gain from giving away that gem to somebody you've never met before "just because"?

Some guys here will be like "plenty of chicas everywhere. What's the big deal about giving a few contacts away"?

And those will be the same guys in your DM trying to get your contacts since they've burned through all of theirs, lmao![/QUOTE]Remember one thing guys. If the girl is universally hot to many eyes she's going to eventually find one or 2 guys that will give her off the walls money and gifts.

Also she prob has many friends in the business whose prob had success stories as well.

There's nothing you can do about this.

I've had a girl lined up for a year now. Settled on 250 mil everything I wanted in the session.

Well she's found her sugar daddy now buying her gifts, taking her places and guess what?? Yup I won't be seeing her.

Unless you can satisfy her cravings of gifts money etc yourself she'll always be available for other men. So whether you share info or not will not make a difference.

Maybe for a short time period. But in the long run if she's hot enough she'll get what she wants.

There are many girls I don't even think that are all that and not worth 200 mil for me charging 500 and up.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2523990]There are 3 Ayenda hotels on or one block off the main drag of Avenida 70, and I have stayed at all three and recommend all three. The Imperio 70 Ayenda 1234 is closest to the metro. Ayenda 1228 Balcones de la 70 is at the opposite end of the Avenida 70, but still not a bad walk from the metro, and you don't have to cross the eight-lane Avenida San Juan to get to Exito (supermarket). Gran Imperio is in between, one block over has a nicest outdoor cafe of the three, and is usually the cheapest. I will never post exactly where I am staying.

They all charge 20 mil COP guest fee / 24 hours. Subject to change. I negotiated that the fee covers ANY one girl at a time in a 24 period. In other words, you should be able to bring in as many girls as you want, one at time, as long as they don't overlap for 20 mil COP per day or book double occupancy. If you start stacking them, then you have to pay per chica. 3 girl maximum per Room. The easiest was around that is to simply book another Room for <$20 USD and now you can have six girls in a Room, or split them up however you want. And the hotel made me to stop and catch my breath when I was on my sixth girl in one 24 period in a single room..[/QUOTE]This is good information, and having two rooms is a great idea, I'm returning in February and have an apartment in Poblado, but am looking for a back-up location / hotel to take some of my Chicas besides Poblado. I used to stay with some of them in El Centro, but like the Laureles area as well.

Sounds like you really know how to "grease the skid's" enlisting the Hotel staff to assist in your escapades! Thanks for the info, and I'm waiting for a report describing how you had a pair of girls in each room, meaning two in each room, and you pounding on all of them switching every few minutes from one to the next. Maybe they even have some adjoining rooms at one of the Hotels, then you don't have to get dressed when you go back and forth between the rooms.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2523990]There are 3 Ayenda hotels on or one block off the main drag of Avenida 70, and I have stayed at all three and recommend all three. The Imperio 70 Ayenda 1234 is closest to the metro. Ayenda 1228 Balcones de la 70 is at the opposite end of the Avenida 70, but still not a bad walk from the metro, and you don't have to cross the eight-lane Avenida San Juan to get to Exito (supermarket). Gran Imperio is in between, one block over has a nicest outdoor cafe of the three, and is usually the cheapest. I will never post exactly where I am staying.

They all charge 20 mil COP guest fee / 24 hours. Subject to change. I negotiated that the fee covers ANY one girl at a time in a 24 period. In other words, you should be able to bring in as many girls as you want, one at time, as long as they don't overlap for 20 mil COP per day or book double occupancy. If you start stacking them, then you have to pay per chica. 3 girl maximum per Room. The easiest was around that is to simply book another Room for <$20 USD and now you can have six girls in a Room, or split them up however you want. And the hotel made me to stop and catch my breath when I was on my sixth girl in one 24 period in a single room.

I get double discount, first from the Booking site I use for the hotel, and then "Ayenda Dollars" directly from the chain so my prices are rock bottom. For YOU Surfer, I went back down to the desk and axed them what my rate was for the week, since frankly I don't keep track - 249 mil COP, 6 nights. What I was trying to point out was the DIFFERENCE of 100 mil COP for the week between the online price and the cheaper price at the front desk. In the past the better price was on line but not this time. Clear as mud? I might be a little punchy. I slept last night night but I did not repay the deficit in full. I had to send Soft Swirl down the back staircase while La Gacela came up the front. The girl at the front desk helped me out a lot and kept La Gacela in front of her while Soft Swirl went out the back. THAT is what you call guest friendly and much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the details. Just one thing. Do these Ayendas have safes in their rooms. Is it a standard or we need to ask for a room which has a safe.

[QUOTE=DogLife;2524129]Thanks for the details. Just one thing. Do these Ayendas have safes in their rooms. Is it a standard or we need to ask for a room which has a safe.[/QUOTE]No safes. Safety deposit box at front desk.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2524037]Remember one thing guys. If the girl is universally hot to many eyes she's going to eventually find one or 2 guys that will give her off the walls money and gifts.

Also she prob has many friends in the business whose prob had success stories as well.

There's nothing you can do about this.

I've had a girl lined up for a year now. Settled on 250 mil everything I wanted in the session.

Well she's found her sugar daddy now buying her gifts, taking her places and guess what?? Yup I won't be seeing her.

Unless you can satisfy her cravings of gifts money etc yourself she'll always be available for other men. So whether you share info or not will not make a difference.

Maybe for a short time period. But in the long run if she's hot enough she'll get what she wants.

There are many girls I don't even think that are all that and not worth 200 mil for me charging 500 and up.[/QUOTE]So many guys get so excited about hooking up with hot girls, viz, 8's and 9's. They post here with drool dripping off their lips. Hope they realize that hot girls get fucked by the most men.

The long shot of the back of the chica is out my hotel window. Avenida 70 is not a pick up area like Botero Park but that are definitely girls who can be picked up.

La Gacela (la chica negro) is looking less Gacela-ish and more Amazonian with the weight gain, but I am digging it. She is strong, tight, and we have had some fun wrestling matches. And her muscular black ass is a great contrast to Flame's soft big white ass.

I had to repeat Soft Swirl's huge apple bottom ass because she is worth a second look.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;2524021]It takes a while for guys being burnt by giving away the few gems they can come up with and seeing the negative results of their actions.

In my mind I give a lot of info to help people but I draw the line at sending gems away to guys I don't know.

The other thing that burns me up is what happened to me years ago in Mayorista. I was sitting at a table and a guy comes out of a taxi and asks me to help him get a girl. He showed me the one he liked. I made the deal for him as he had zero Spanish. He then takes the girl to a taxi and leaves with her. Not a two word thank you to me.[/QUOTE]Ditto this. Been there and done that, no more.

I have about 200 contacts in WhatsApp and FB messenger, these I have gathered with much time and effort over the past 4 years and I now protect this list.

Every time I have given a monger a contact it just fucked things up and just not on the financial aspects but just shit started unraveling, jealousy would fucking pop up out of nowhere, these weekend warriors would come into Medellin and throw money and screw things up, months later I would see them in profile photos in Cancun, they become sugar daddy's sending them, listen to this 3,000,000 pesos a month, they would swear on a stack of bibles that they will only pay what I have paid which is 100 to 150 mil MAX for a 2 or 3 hour session then I find out by the girl that he paid 350 mil and I call him out on this and get the "well she was worth it so I gave it".

No more. Now I do have a few real cuties that I will give out their contact numbers for, why now? Because they have been spoiled and on their way up to becoming higher earners selling their pussy, and I have trained them in the bedroom and outside how to treat your man so they got game. And I always ask beforehand that they are good with this.

But otherwise never again.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2523770]Great post Sangnyc21! "stay in your lane" I love that line it's perfect for guys reading here.

I'm in Medellin for the winter and banging FB chicas and friends of friends of friends of FB chicas LOL. I give them all "250 mil incluyendo de Ubers". Also banging some SA chicas for the same deal. Some take that offer and others do not. No big deal either way there is so much pussy here.

One thing I think is different with the better looking FB chicas is how often they work. I always ask them and they have to stop and think about the last time they were with a gringo. Or maybe they would be good poker players LOL because they are pretty convincing. But I tend to believe most as they are willing to share many details of lives. And have little or no shame for selling ass.[/QUOTE]This is the part most guys don't understand. They see the casa chicas, doing 6-10 guys a day, the popular street girls doing that many or more and assume the Facebook girls are doing the same. Many of them are only seeing 1 or 2 guys a week. Sure there are some scheduling 2 or 3 a day and some of the Mansion girls need a revolving door they're in and out so much, but most are fairly low volume.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2524037]Unless you can satisfy her cravings of gifts money etc yourself she'll always be available for other men. So whether you share info or not will not make a difference.[/QUOTE]True, but don't let it be you who inadvertently messed up the great deal you had going.

I've got chicas I've been seeing since 2014. Some have completely disappeared from sight.

But at least I know that there was nothing that I did on my end (like foolishly giving away my contacts) that accelerated their exit either to another guy or from the game itself.

I am wondering if anyone recognizes this chica and can tell me if she is prepago. I found her in my "suggested friends" section of my FB account. For my taste she is hot but a thorough look at her profile there is no give away that she is prepago.

LOL this post is comes right after The Tall Man's post about not giving out contacts. LOL so I know he is not going to tell me LOL but I get his point! Even if I told him a thousand times that I am not going to overpay this chica. I did not understand this at first and thought people were just being assholes but Experiences and the experiences of other mongers teach us to develop out own rules.

I will not share her name or profile link with anyone even in PM because I do not know if she is prepago and so I do not consider it good form to share that stuff without knowing. Also if someone can confirm to me that she is a working girl than I would ask them to supply her first name so we know we are talking about the same chica and they are not just confusing her with some chica that looks a like her. I consider this a long shot but if anyone recognizes her and knows her to be working girl than a PM to me with her name.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2524178]Ditto this. Been there and done that, no more.

I have about 200 contacts in WhatsApp and FB messenger, these I have gathered with much time and effort over the past 4 years and I now protect this list.

Every time I have given a monger a contact it just fucked things up and just not on the financial aspects but just shit started unraveling, jealousy would fucking pop up out of nowhere, these weekend warriors would come into Medellin and throw money and screw things up, months later I would see them in profile photos in Cancun, they become sugar daddy's sending them, listen to this 3,000,000 pesos a month, they would swear on a stack of bibles that they will only pay what I have paid which is 100 to 150 mil MAX for a 2 or 3 hour session then I find out by the girl that he paid 350 mil and I call him out on this and get the "well she was worth it so I gave it".

No more. Now I do have a few real cuties that I will give out their contact numbers for, why now? Because they have been spoiled and on their way up to becoming higher earners selling their pussy, and I have trained them in the bedroom and outside how to treat your man so they got game. And I always ask beforehand that they are good with this.

But otherwise never again.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Mongering is essentially every man for himself, IMO. This is only my second trip to Medellin and I do not consider myself an expert about this city, at least not yet. I can only imagine what it will escalate to once I am relocated here permanently and embedded. There are guys who act like you're holding out when you don't cough up the exact info they want about girls, hotels, etc. That would be correct, I am holding out unless I have met you, approved you, and you have someone worthwhile to trade, WITH her permission in advance, jeje. Don't ask and look for handholding.

This morning, La Gacela and I walked from the Estadio Metro Station to UniCentral Mall, a 30 minute stroll along the full length of Avenida 70. I bet we walked by 20 little boutique hotels and as many apartments for rent within a block of Avenida 70 that would be just as "friendly" as any Ayenda property. When I land in a new area, I intially book a hotel for 3 or 4 nights, and then go exploring, in case I find something I like better. Make a flash card with three or four questions in Spanish, "How much for one night? Are guests allowed? What is the guest fee? Is the WiFi strong?" What else do you need to know? Jot down the 4 answers on the back of the business card from the hotel. Take a foto of the front of the hotel to match an image with the card. Don't hesitate to ask to see a Room. They will probably show you their best room, then ask can you get that exact same room? At the end or your reconnoiter, glance over your cards and decide your next move. Ostee out.

Gratuitious fotos of my Numero Uno Novia's ass and her Just A Walkin' Down the Street Singin' Do Wah Diddy Diddy Dum Diddy Do. The Third foto is Soft Swirl who just arrived a few minutes ago an hour after La Gacela left for work. This is Soft Swirl's encore visit after the Pillow Talk. I have two states of existence in Medellin. I am either with a girl, or a girl is on her way over. Any lapses and I get agitated.

Numero Uno Novia Catgirl and I are hooking up Sunday for the first time this trip. Unless I make up another bullsh*t story about flight delays. She is ready to kill me because she strongly suspects I have been here fucking my brains out for more than a week, and she would be correct. Jajajajaja. I need to get a giant mural foto of my bedroom back in the states and use it as a backdrop. The main way she knows I am here is that I have not accepted a video call from her in over a week. Kinda hard to explain that away after the fifth or sixth time, jajaja. Her last message to me was "I'm going to go fuck a young chico now. " I asked her to please use a condom.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2524048]This is good information, and having two rooms is a great idea, I'm returning in February and have an apartment in Poblado, but am looking for a back-up location / hotel to take some of my Chicas besides Poblado. I used to stay with some of them in El Centro, but like the Laureles area as well.

Sounds like you really know how to "grease the skid's" enlisting the Hotel staff to assist in your escapades! Thanks for the info, and I'm waiting for a report describing how you had a pair of girls in each room, meaning two in each room, and you pounding on all of them switching every few minutes from one to the next. Maybe they even have some adjoining rooms at one of the Hotels, then you don't have to get dressed when you go back and forth between the rooms.[/QUOTE]The most Rooms I have ever run at the same time was 4 at four different hotels, all within a couple of blocks, using Ayenda 1228 de la Balcones 70 as the anchor. That was unusual and 99% of the time I only need one Room. That will change when Catgirl enters the equation. I don't recommend scattering Rooms around town. You want them bunched up as close as possible or even in the same hotel. Hotel Botero was great for that, with 14 or however many floors it was of Rooms. Remember my "Can I fuck you while you're sleeping" rule? Essential in the situation when you are popping your head in a room in the middle of the night. I tip the maids and I treat the hotel staff with politeness and they watch out for me. Thanks for reminding me, I need to tip that girl that kept La Gacela and Soft Swirl from running into each other. Ostee Out. Soft Swirl is braiding my hair, that is foreplay, jaja.

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2524238]I am wondering if anyone recognizes this chica and can tell me if she is prepago. I found her in my "suggested friends" section of my FB account. For my taste she is hot but a thorough look at her profile there is no give away that she is prepago.[/QUOTE]I agree she is hot. If I am going to guess, I would say she is. She has a friend (same first name, last name Gomez) is a prepago. Maybe you can ask Gomez to confirm.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2524178]Ditto this. Been there and done that, no more.

I have about 200 contacts in WhatsApp and FB messenger, these I have gathered with much time and effort over the past 4 years and I now protect this list.

Every time I have given a monger a contact it just fucked things up and just not on the financial aspects but just shit started unraveling, jealousy would fucking pop up out of nowhere, these weekend warriors would come into Medellin and throw money and screw things up, months later I would see them in profile photos in Cancun, they become sugar daddy's sending them, listen to this 3,000,000 pesos a month, they would swear on a stack of bibles that they will only pay what I have paid which is 100 to 150 mil MAX for a 2 or 3 hour session then I find out by the girl that he paid 350 mil and I call him out on this and get the "well she was worth it so I gave it".

No more. Now I do have a few real cuties that I will give out their contact numbers for, why now? Because they have been spoiled and on their way up to becoming higher earners selling their pussy, and I have trained them in the bedroom and outside how to treat your man so they got game. And I always ask beforehand that they are good with this.

But otherwise never again.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]If these are your non pros that you got to before other mongers did then you shouldn't give the info.

You don't ever have to give anyone's info anyway.

But my point is if she's a truly hot fb girl in the eyes of many it's not going to make a difference.

Odds are she has friends who will guide and her try to find her dates to get commission which is a huge thing out here.

Every girl is not only a hooker she's a pimpette. Lmao.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2523884]when in reality it may only be half to the girl not 1/5th, hence the analogy was flawed[/QUOTE]That is incorrect. The customer will pay house bar fine to take the girl out already. Maybe the girl will share with mms or others who help her but that is not the rule and there is no way that it will be anywhere close to half.

An example is that you don't get girl inside Gusto, you get number or you make deal outside to get lower price, or just wait for a few weeks or months. Maybe one of them will bite. That is how I understand what Mr E is saying. In this approach, all similar girls in one's eyes are interchangeable.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2524279]That is incorrect. The customer will pay house bar fine to take the girl out already. Maybe the girl will share with mms or others who help her but that is not the rule and there is no way that it will be anywhere close to half.

An example is that you don't get girl inside Gusto, you get number or you make deal outside to get lower price, or just wait for a few weeks or months. Maybe one of them will bite. That is how I understand what Mr E is saying. In this approach, all similar girls in one's eyes are interchangeable.[/QUOTE]Gustos doesn't make anything off the girls it's their own pricing.

They even have to pay 20 k to enter.

I've gotten deals as low as 300 mil for an all nighter at Gustos before. With BBFS multiple times and she spent the night.

It's rare but if the girl likes you it might be your lucky night.

So unless they changed something in the past year I know for a fact Gustos doesn’t make money off the girls.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2524291]Gustos doesn't make anything off the girls it's their own pricing.[/QUOTE]We were talking about gogos in Thailand. I just use Gusto as an example for Medellin.

Been in the same hotel since arriving eleven nights ago, here in MDE. For the first time they asked to see my negative Covid-19 test result and they made another copy of my passport. I asked them if was under arrest (thinking back to my little Immigration scare when I came in) and she just laughed and said, "No, es una nueva rutina."

Foto Taken Within The Last Hour, of Soft Swirl, who just left. Dexy coming tonight if she wakes up. Flame in the wings waiting for any word with her friend Paisa Girl. 2 deep after that. Of course, Cat Girl would be here as fast as a Paisa can move, which is when they want, if I told her where I was. Problem there, she might be brandishing a.

The best part of the sex session Mia and I just finished was me on my back, her head on my flat stomach, her body to the side, fucking her face.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2524279]That is incorrect. The customer will pay house bar fine to take the girl out already. Maybe the girl will share with mms or others who help her but that is not the rule and there is no way that it will be anywhere close to half.

An example is that you don't get girl inside Gusto, you get number or you make deal outside to get lower price, or just wait for a few weeks or months. Maybe one of them will bite. That is how I understand what Mr E is saying. In this approach, all similar girls in one's eyes are interchangeable.[/QUOTE]Colombia is not Thailand, and with both countries having literally nothing in common, pricing comparisons between the two would not be correct, with the inference by Mr. E being that if you can do this here (Thailand), you can do it anywhere (Colombia), which is not the case.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2524291]Gustos doesn't make anything off the girls it's their own pricing.

They even have to pay 20 k to enter.

I've gotten deals as low as 300 mil for an all nighter at Gustos before. With BBFS multiple times and she spent the night.

It's rare but if the girl likes you it might be your lucky night.

So unless they changed something in the past year I know for a fact Gustos doesn't make money off the girls.[/QUOTE]I am fairly certain that there is no legal way for Gustos to make money off the girls, I might be wrong since there are casas, but the girts at Gustos are not employees so that might be the difference, I am thinking of back in the day when La Dolce Vita in Cartagena was still in El Laguito and in the beginning around 2009 when I first started going there the deal was you had to buy the chica 2 drinks before you could leave with her. Then sometime a couple of years later they raised it and said that guys had to spend a minimum and it seems like it was around 50 k but I cannot remember for sure but when added to what you are paying the chica it was expensive, Bouncers would check with a bartender to see if you had already spent your minimum before you could head out with a chica. I started showing up at that little plaza and just hang on Calle 1 b outside the plaza where La Dolce Vita was located and where the taxis dropped off the chicas and catching them before they went inside.

I know that when they started that spending minimum that hurt their business some because lots of guys on this board complained said that was the reason they are not going there anymore. Some in-the-know members said the owner was trying to make more money to cover gambling debts. Now back in those days when La Dolce Vita was in Laguito it was also crawling with gringo regulars that I suspect were mostly DEA and being ex military myself I smelled military guys also, (probably advisors and probably some CIA spooks) there hair and their composure give them away. Also there was (and may still be) a regular rotation of Israeli military guys (they own / owned a house in Laguito) so with all these regulars maybe the owner felt like he could get away with it but I also think this: if he could just get a cut from the transaction with the chicas then why piss everyone off with the spending minimum? I think that when that Secret Service agent stupidly got into hot water in Cartagena that may have ruined it for the DEA guys also. I bet they regret ever partying with the idiot Secret Service.

So Gustos has their spending minimum built into the price of each drink LOL The more extravagant your tastes the more exaggerated their overpricing becomes so Heineken is 3 times normal where an Aguila is just priced twice what is normal. I also think their business model is slightly different in that they cater almost exclusively to a high roller / high spending type so the chicas are just piggybacking with there prices, they are there finding the high roller big spenders that show up there. While I do wish there was a more-like-La Dolce Vita type place in Medellin, the truth is there are too many alternatives to worry about it.

I just did 15 days in Medellin. I stayed at the Soul Apartments (Where Cra 34 and Cra 35 meet. South of Parque Lleras). I absolutely love that place. They have it all, namely a pool. The rooms are large. I stayed on the 9th floor and had a wonderful of the Medellin skyline from my balcony. Now on the chicas.

In my 15 days, I had 20 chicas. They were between Facebook and Tinder. Of those 20 chicas, some them gave wonderful BBBJs to completion.

I like my chicas slim with huge tetas and just about all of them were like that. For the ones I that saw, screwed (or got sucked), paid and they left immediately, none of them were more than 200 K.

- Osoria (I know some of why'all know or been with her. Cute Afro-Colombiana huge tetas Facebook queen).

- Nathaly.

- Luisa (prettiest one by far BBBJ CIM pro. Came in her mouth 4 times).

- Laura.

- Sofia (super huge tetas. Paja China all night).

- Yadna (small little chica, but can screw until oblivion).

- Camila.

- Johana.

- Victoria.

- Isabella (a true favorita of mine. Makes me cum faster than normal all the time).

- Mariana.

- Maria (looks like a tiny Mariah Carey. Best doggystyle screw).

- Evelyn.

- Shara.

- Linda (nice afro-colombiana. Hugh tetas. Played with them for one hour. No break).

- Amber (second prettiest one).

- Sara.

- Kym (BBBJ CIM machine. Seems to never be satisfied until you blow a load in her boca).

- Jenifer.

- Rosa (Looked mixed Latina & Asian, simply pretty. I got hard just starring at her face. Nice body).

The chicas with no descriptions were regular one and done. The other ones were repeat chicas and rightfully so. Before this trip, I had not went anywhere for a minute and had a TON OF BUILT UP TENSION to release. And damn did these chicas help me release. I feel better now.

I love Medellin. Heaven on earth for me. I am already making plans to go back in February.

[QUOTE=ElMoreno92;2524309]In my 15 days, I had 20 chicas.[/QUOTE]Medellin is the shit. I like the names.

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2524303]Colombia is not Thailand, and with both countries having literally nothing in common, pricing comparisons between the two would not be correct, with the inference by Mr. E being that if you can do this here (Thailand), you can do it anywhere (Colombia), which is not the case.[/QUOTE]Forget about Thailand. If you follow Mr E's last few posts. You will see he is suggesting to get the girl's number at the places like super market or Beer Store then he doesn't need to pay Gusto price. I image he can get 100 numbers from 100 Gusto' girls, one of them will eventually bite the low price. If he can meet the one of the Gusto's girls in El Centro, that is even better because he only needs to pay 30 K, instead of $200 - $300 mentioned here.

Now back to Thailand. 1000 baht of the 5000 probably is the bar fine to the bar. MP is not a weekend warrior. His family is wealthy and he will pay more than required just because he can. Some wealthy people are like that.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2524340] Some wealthy people are like that.[/QUOTE]Do the super rich do that anywhere else? Do they ask how much and then pay more at car dealers buying a house or at hotels restos etc?

Or buying businesses? You say some wealthy people do that? I'm not wealthy but I know some that are, most wealthy people I've known are more frugal than most other people.

Ever hear the axiom "a fool and his money will soon part" maybe they are just trying to overcompensate for something?

Have you seen fotos of MP? I have.

Are you talking about fools that are so stoopid and desperate they spend it like drunken sailors when they see a puta, like those fools that blow Powerball jackpots in 5 yrs.

I never pay "FOOL" price LOL.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2524340]Forget about Thailand. If you follow Mr E's last few posts. You will see he is suggesting to get the girl's number at the places like super market or Beer Store then he doesn't need to pay Gusto price. I image he can get 100 numbers from 100 Gusto' girls, one of them will eventually bite the low price. If he can meet the one of the Gusto's girls in El Centro, that is even better because he only needs to pay 30 K, instead of $200 - $300 mentioned here.[/QUOTE]Mr. E was talking about getting girls for 1/5 of the price in Thailand, and now your talking about getting girls for 1/10th of the price in Colombia. So your saying that Gustos girls who get 200-300 working there can be found in El Centro for 30 K. Everybody knows about getting girls phone numbers to meetup with them outside of the working girls venues, but the thought that a girl who can get 300 K in Gustos is going to go for 30 K in El Centro, well that is a stretch, but I've been wrong before, and perhaps some other members can chime in on this.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2524178]Every time I have given a monger a contact it just fucked things up and just not on the financial aspects but just shit started unraveling, jealousy would fucking pop up out of nowhere, these weekend warriors would come into Medellin and throw money and screw things up, months later I would see them in profile photos in Cancun, they become sugar daddy's sending them, listen to this 3,000,000 pesos a month, they would swear on a stack of bibles that they will only pay what I have paid which is 100 to 150 mil MAX for a 2 or 3 hour session then I find out by the girl that he paid 350 mil and I call him out on this and get the "well she was worth it so I gave it".[/QUOTE]Yeah, TM, I only had two women in Medellin during Covid crisis and I gave them very little but I apologize for anything I did in upsetting the market there. There is this notion that when you give women money you are buying goodwill like it is a bank deposit, but it is not.

I have been watching videos of this guy:[URL]https://www.youtube.com/c/EntrepreneursInCars/videos[/URL].

And he just affirmed for me something I knew in my experience was true is that there is no such bank. You spend money helping dad's business or mom's health and the second that money leaves your wallet it is forgotten about.

There is a phrase called alpha fucks and beta bucks. It means betas are going to spend a lot more money and get less sexually than alphas. I hated the alpha phrase because it means like it was the alpha for a bunch of guys, and there can only be so many leaders. However in a relationship of two, the male who is paying should always be the alpha. If you are not then get out!

I am in Cancun now with a Medellin lovely. I sent her $500 not as a gift but that is the amount a Colombian woman needs to clear customs. She got right through like she always does because she knows how to handle herself, and of course, the first thing she did was give me back the money as soon as she got here. How many women would have kept it? How many would have claimed it was lost? How many would not show up? She is the rare woman who wants to compliment a man rather than suck him dry. There are women out there, granted not many, who really do want to produce on their own. The more guys who make it rain with a woman, the fewer of these women there are going to be.

[QUOTE=ElMoreno92;2524309]I just did 15 days in Medellin. I stayed at the Soul Apartments (Where Cra 34 and Cra 35 meet. South of Parque Lleras). I absolutely love that place. They have it all, namely a pool. The rooms are large. I stayed on the 9th floor and had a wonderful of the Medellin skyline from my balcony. Now on the chicas.

In my 15 days, I had 20 chicas. They were between Facebook and Tinder. Of those 20 chicas, some them gave wonderful BBBJs to completion.

I like my chicas slim with huge tetas and just about all of them were like that. For the ones I that saw, screwed (or got sucked), paid and they left immediately, none of them were more than 200 K.

- Osoria (I know some of why'all know or been with her. Cute Afro-Colombiana huge tetas Facebook queen).

- Nathaly.

- Luisa (prettiest one by far BBBJ CIM pro. Came in her mouth 4 times).

- Laura...[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have a great time, I hope to make it this summer.

My Numero Uno Cat Girl tried to smoke me out the other day with this histrionic suicide note, not coincidentally they day after La Gacela's birthday. That is a huge pain point for her and as bad luck would have it Cat Girl's birthday is three days before. And I wasn't there.

(11:43 AM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: I don't want to live. I'm going to kill myself.

(11:45 AM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: If you don't care about yourself, but you care about me, do not talk like that.

(11:45 AM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: Forgive me.

(11:45 AM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: But this is my decision.

(11:47 AM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: I think this is all one big trick just to get rid of me, just tell me you want to break up, I won't bother you.

(11:47 AM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: I will always love you.

(11:48 AM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: I left our puppy in a park to a man who could take her home.

(11:48 AM, 1/18/21) Ostee: I never liked that dog. Tania was so much better.

(11:49 AM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: Where are you now?

(11:51 AM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: Having one last coffee.

(12:21 PM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: I'm going to leave this world.

(12:21 PM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: I became so empty by myself.

(12:21 PM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: I'm not happy, I will jump.

Shows me a photo of the view from a highway overpass.

(12:22 PM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: Don't jump from there. It is not high enough. You could survive as a paralyzed person.

(12:23 PM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: But if I'm lucky and a car passes over me and kills me after I land.

(12:26 PM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: Yes, but if the car sees you and moves and you have a broken neck, you will be paralyzed for life, but alive and miserable. People will constantly be touching you and you won't be able to move.

(12:27 PM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: The best way is to walk down and stand on the edge of the road and step in front of the largest truck you see. The end will be quick and painless.

(12:27 PM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: Yes.

(12:29 PM, 1/18/2021) Ostee: I will come pick you up Sunday. You will feel better when we are together again.

(12:30 PM, 1/18/2021) Cat Girl: Teamooo.

I have no doubts she was feeling miserable but mainly she is trying to smoke me out, telling me my fun-fucking time is over, and to come get her. I told her I am still in USA and landing here Sunday but she knows better. She went to my favorite old haunt yesterday, Hotel Botero, looking for me but it was shut down. I will post one foto of her face she sent me after she told me she went to Botero. You will never recognize her again from that foto jajajaja. That is one crazy, crazed, Paisa. I love her. She is drop dead gorgeous and I think that shows through, a little, jajajaja. Also, a few reminder fotos of why we call her Cat Girl, Michelle Pfieffer eat your heart out!

Supposedly the new travel requirements for anyone entering the United States includes being quarantined upon arriving. The length of the quarantine is being reviewed but according to an article in Conde Nast today it's 10 days. That's a boner killer for sure if true.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2524472]My Numero Uno Cat Girl tried to smoke me out the other day with this histrionic suicide note, not coincidentally they day after La Gacela's birthday. That is a huge pain point for her and as bad luck would have it Cat Girl's birthday is three days before. And I wasn't there.

I have no doubts she was feeling miserable but mainly she is trying to smoke me out, telling me my fun-fucking time is over, and to come get her. I told her I am still in USA and landing here Sunday but she knows better. She went to my favorite old haunt yesterday, Hotel Botero, looking for me but it was shut down. I will post one foto of her face she sent me after she told me she went to Botero. You will never recognize her again from that foto jajajaja. That is one crazy, crazed, Paisa. I love her. She is drop dead gorgeous and I think that shows through, a little, jajajaja. Also, a few reminder fotos of why we call her Cat Girl, Michelle Pfieffer eat your heart out![/QUOTE]So are you fluent in Spanish and translating the WhatsApp conversations into English. It would be interesting to see how she was saying things in Spanish.

It could be as true as anything else. Are there any sources more official than Conde Nast?

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2524514]Supposedly the new travel requirements for anyone entering the United States includes being quarantined upon arriving. The length of the quarantine is being reviewed but according to an article in Conde Nast today it's 10 days. That's a boner killer for sure if true.[/QUOTE]

US will now soon require a 10 day quarantine for all travelers arriving from overseas. Hopefully Colombia will not reciprocate.

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[QUOTE=Surfer500;2524565]So are you fluent in Spanish and translating the WhatsApp conversations into English. It would be interesting to see how she was saying things in Spanish.[/QUOTE]I am 1/4 fluent. RiceRocket99 is fluent. I can order food, take a taxi, check into a hotel, make small talk with a chica for about 5 minutes. Tell a few jokes. Understand twice as much as I can speak.

Those Whassap convos are pure cut and paste into Google Translate.

New girl here now, well first time this trip. I am surprised no one mentioned her.

GI Jane.

[QUOTE=Kafka;2524629]US will now soon require a 10 day quarantine for all travelers arriving from overseas. Hopefully Colombia will not reciprocate.

Already Biden administration off to a horrible precedent......[/QUOTE]There is no national requirement to quarantine on arrival as of yet. This may be changing shortly, so please check back for updates. Travelers should check quarantine requirements for the state they are traveling to, as some states such as Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York, Alaska, and Hawaii have implemented a mandatory quarantine for international travel.

Still have questions? Check the source.

For full details and exemptions, see.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Updated on January 22, 2021.

No first hand knowledge but in the past few weeks I have seen multiple FB posts from my FB chicas asking her friends "who wants to go to centro for the day". Now it might have been just to go to the park or it might have been to see if they could catch a gringo or three, can't say for sure. My point being, if a FB girl who normally gets 150-200 mil COP will drop to 30-50 mil, maybe some of the "Gustos girls" would too. : shrug:

[QUOTE=Surfer500;2524354]Mr. E was talking about getting girls for 1/5 of the price in Thailand, and now your talking about getting girls for 1/10th of the price in Colombia. So your saying that Gustos girls who get 200-300 working there can be found in El Centro for 30 K. Everybody knows about getting girls phone numbers to meetup with them outside of the working girls venues, but the thought that a girl who can get 300 K in Gustos is going to go for 30 K in El Centro, well that is a stretch, but I've been wrong before, and perhaps some other members can chime in on this.[/QUOTE]

She looks familiar, that black and white photo of her with the bent crop / whip, I swear I saw that before on FB or maybe you posted it here before? Either way, good luck with her, I look forward to hearing about the encounter.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2524472]My Numero Uno Cat Girl tried to smoke me out the other day with this histrionic suicide note, not coincidentally they day after La Gacela's birthday. That is a huge pain point for her and as bad luck would have it Cat Girl's birthday is three days before. And I wasn't there.


Also, a few reminder fotos of why we call her Cat Girl, Michelle Pfieffer eat your heart out![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MojoBandit;2524238]I am wondering if anyone recognizes this chica and can tell me if she is prepago. I found her in my "suggested friends" section of my FB account. For my taste she is hot but a thorough look at her profile there is no give away that she is prepago.

LOL this post is comes right after The Tall Man's post about not giving out contacts. LOL so I know he is not going to tell me LOL but I get his point! Even if I told him a thousand times that I am not going to overpay this chica. I did not understand this at first and thought people were just being assholes but Experiences and the experiences of other mongers teach us to develop out own rules.

I will not share her name or profile link with anyone even in PM because I do not know if she is prepago and so I do not consider it good form to share that stuff without knowing. Also if someone can confirm to me that she is a working girl than I would ask them to supply her first name so we know we are talking about the same chica and they are not just confusing her with some chica that looks a like her. I consider this a long shot but if anyone recognizes her and knows her to be working girl than a PM to me with her name.[/QUOTE]Daniela, used to work at Fase 2, sorry can't PM.

[QUOTE=Luminus;2524673]No first hand knowledge but in the past few weeks I have seen multiple FB posts from my FB chicas asking her friends "who wants to go to centro for the day". Now it might have been just to go to the park or it might have been to see if they could catch a gringo or three, can't say for sure. My point being, if a FB girl who normally gets 150-200 mil COP will drop to 30-50 mil, maybe some of the "Gustos girls" would too. : shrug:[/QUOTE]I can see a FB chica accepting 50 K versus 150 K, but a Gusto chica used to getting 300 K accepting 30 K, well I still think that's a stretch, but anything is possible. And as far the FB chicas going to El Centro for the day, sounds like they might of been planning to snag a gringo at the park like you have hypothesized, make a little money, have lunch, and go shopping. I've seen Chicas I've taken upstairs in El Centro afterwards shopping for clothes with their earnings, and there are some FB chicas that have worked El Centro so what you have speculated about makes sense.

[QUOTE=Osteoknot;2524632]..............
New girl here now, well first time this trip. I am surprised no one mentioned her.

GI Jane.[/QUOTE]Nice! My type. Small / Slim.

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Vaccine was announced.

Before there were no infectious variants of Covid (despite my screaming that there were), now there is one every damned day.

I posted studies showing that Moderna vaccine was 85% effective with one dose and the booster made it go to 95% effective. Given that data, it made sense to me to give more people one vaccine then people who had one shot another one.

Of course, Saint Fauci, who is known in medical circles as a drug company hack and vaccinologist, said people should have two.

The latest on this is the South African variant, and the vaccine does not work as well against it so better have two. [URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/21/dr-fauci-says-covid-vaccines-appear-to-be-less-effective-against-some-new-strains.html[/URL].

If you know how the vaccine works, this claim makes NO sense.

The NYT is now actually going to go after people in government probably to protect Biden. This was published 2 days prior to Biden getting into office:

Early in the pandemic, many health experts — in the USA And around the world — decided that the public could not be trusted to hear the truth about masks. Instead, the experts spread a misleading message, discouraging the use of masks.

Their motivation was mostly good. It sprung from a concern that people would rush to buy high-grade medical masks, leaving too few for doctors and nurses. The experts were also unsure how much ordinary masks would help.

But the message was still a mistake.

It confused people. (If masks weren't effective, why did doctors and nurses need them?) It delayed the widespread use of masks (even though there was good reason to believe they could help). And it damaged the credibility of public health experts.

Right now, public discussion of the vaccines is full of warnings about their limitations: They're not 100 percent effective. Even vaccinated people may be able to spread the virus. And people shouldn't change their behavior once they get their shots.

These warnings have a basis in truth, just as it's true that masks are imperfect. But the sum total of the warnings is misleading, as I heard from multiple doctors and epidemiologists last week.

"It's driving me a little bit crazy," Dr. Ashish Jha, dean of the Brown School of Public Health, told me.

End of quote. Can you believe this shit? The NYT elevates flip flop Fauci to saint and bashes Trump as an idiot and now finally tells the truth even though they leave out Fauci's name. Cowards.

Why the fuck would you quarantine people coming in from abroad when one in 30 people in the USA currently and officially have active disease (more like one in 15 probably really do) and there is ZERO evidence that it shows it does any good?

First, it was the CDC ramming the negative Covid test down the throats of airlines and now there is this.

Can you think of anything outside of politics requiring a negative Covid test by air into the USA and not by land or sea?

This is not science. These are people with degrees in a science major or with a title who are advocating for more power for themselves and politicians using them. Right now, Biden is telling the hotel and airline industry, "I own you".

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0UV7Y-OEEw[/URL]

I have seen more people get the virus eating around at a dinner table than anything else. 75% of cases of Covid are spread at home. Of course, there was an explosion of cases after Christmas and Thanksgiving then. People need to keep face to face conversations to a minimum.

I wish I could have faith our government was actually doing things that worked against the virus instead of just doing something so it can show it cares.

Both of these policies are totally bird brained.