FKK Dietzenbach

I think Craiova's analogy to wine prices is very apt. It must burn up a Evita or Aurelia for example that she gets paid the same amount that Sylvana does, not offense to the Danish Meistro. I know I would be, if I got paid the same as someone with less credentials or has less qualifications at work. At the clubs, theoretically, the better quality girls make more money due to more hours, but that also means they need to work longer and harder, and on a per hour basis the pay still remains the same.

Do the girls consciously or subconsciously adjust down service levels due to this perceived pay and pricing inequity? Who knows. Anecdotally, some people here say yes, and some say no. I think we can find all kinds of examples and stories. It makes sense, purely on a rational argument, but I also know people who say they get top quality service from the prettiest girls in a 50 euro session.

Ok, so it does boil down to prettier girls not having to give decent service (for the standard price). Craiova, man, your making me agree with Siroja.

In my mind, no girl that feels she is too good to do the job for the standard price should be considered "first class". These statements by Ortos and Craiova the last few days are some of the saddest and misgiven things I've read on a messageboard. Defending the entitled princesses and justifying such behavior.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1805732]I think Craiova's analogy to wine prices is very apt. It must burn up a Evita or Aurelia for example that she gets paid the same amount that Sylvana does, not offense to the Danish Meistro. [/QUOTE]Actually they should get paid less as their service is far worse. In contrary to wine (which is all about taste, one single criteria) girls are rated by service AND looks. I don't want an ugly old brat with outstanding service. Neither do I want a topmodel playing starfish and offering crap service.

HB.

That's fine. Evita or Aurelia are just metaphors. Substitute with who you like. Looks and service and whatever else. The point is whether price differentiation makes sense, or should all girls be paid the same regardless of quality and service and looks. If you think some girls (Aurelia or Evita) should be paid less, then by definition, you do agree that some others should be paid more.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1805846]Actually they should get paid less as their service is far worse. In contrary to wine (which is all about taste, one single criteria) girls are rated by service AND looks. I don't want an ugly old brat with outstanding service. Neither do I want a topmodel playing starfish and offering crap service.

HB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1805716]As most of best wines are french, out of some italian, I don't agree, best wines are not always the most expensive. [/QUOTE]Best wines for me are Spanish, particularly the dark reds, with Italian next in line. Lots of good stuff from places like Chile, Argentina etc too. There's plenty of things I like about France, but I'm not a big fan of your wine.

[QUOTE=Jim57;1806004]Best wines for me are Spanish, particularly the dark reds, with Italian next in line. Lots of good stuff from places like Chile, Argentina etc too. There's plenty of things I like about France, but I'm not a big fan of your wine.[/QUOTE]Usually, UK are found of famous dark red "Bordeaux" , I wanted to mean girls who upsell don t always provide more pleasure than girls who work for club rate. My favs: Madi, Raïssa, Francesca / Sarah, Aylice, Ina, new Tatiana, never asked me: You want to finish in my mouth? Or other extra or tip, why I repeat many times.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1805927]If you think some girls (Aurelia or Evita) should be paid less, then by definition, you do agree that some others should be paid more.[/QUOTE]That was a joke. The girls SHOULD all provide the same basic service for the standard price. Some do, some don't. There's also girls I would rate below 5 (on a 1 to 10 scale) that give crap service.

If we go back to the wine anology: I do not taste the difference between a red wine for 500 EUR per bottle and a wine for 10 EUR per bottle. Tried but realised that my favorite red wine is available for below 10 EUR. But that maybe just me.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1806028]That was a joke. The girls SHOULD all provide the same basic service for the standard price. Some do, some don't. There's also girls I would rate below 5 (on a 1 to 10 scale) that give crap service.

If we go back to the wine anology: I do not taste the difference between a red wine for 500 EUR per bottle and a wine for 10 EUR per bottle. Tried but realised that my favorite red wine is available for below 10 EUR. But that maybe just me.

HB.[/QUOTE]Most expensive wines are not always the best, but if you don't taste difference between table 10€ wine and high level wine and if it's the same for girls, for example: for me Cosmina, Aurelia, Dina have average services, Aylice or Tatiana can have exceptional services, I should give 50 for 1 hour to the first and 200 to Aylice, but Aylice never try to upsell. Not sure, we look for same quality with girls.

Joke or not, it is clear that forcing that an identical price on all girls regardless of quality (which can include looks, services, enthusiasm, pick what you like) leads to distortions.

It does not work in the real world. And the point Craiova made originally about wine is being mangled here. It was not about taste only, for wines (just as it is not about looks only for girls; as Siri said, I too will gladly pay more for Aylice than some others, even if she is not the best looker). Some people may like the brand, the vintage, the rating, prestige, whatever. Some rare wines sell for several thousands in auctions, no one buying it has tasted it yet prior to the auction, because it is pretty rare to begin with. The point is that some attribute, not necessarily taste only, hikes up the price.

And when the same price is imposed in a socialist manner, there will be a rationing. The rationing here is an intentional or subconscious reduction of service.

Again I ask, would any one still in workforce be happy if they got paid identical pay per hour as someone less qualified, less able, and less skilled? I would walk and seek another job.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1806028]That was a joke. The girls SHOULD all provide the same basic service for the standard price. Some do, some don't. There's also girls I would rate below 5 (on a 1 to 10 scale) that give crap service.

If we go back to the wine anology: I do not taste the difference between a red wine for 500 EUR per bottle and a wine for 10 EUR per bottle. Tried but realised that my favorite red wine is available for below 10 EUR. But that maybe just me.

HB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1806128]
And when the same price is imposed in a socialist manner, there will be a rationing. The rationing here is an intentional or subconscious reduction of service.

Again I ask, would any one still in workforce be happy if they got paid identical pay per hour as some less qualified, less able, and less skilled? I would walk and seek another job.[/QUOTE]The girls can walk and seek other jobs as well. Many former FKK girls moved to escort agencies, RLD, independents, Switzerland, Austria, and Spain. It is a free market and many girls concluded that German FKK was the best for them and returned. Others left the German FKK scene for good.

[QUOTE=FreeDude;1805828]These statements by Ortos and Craiova the last few days are some of the saddest and misgiven things I've read on a messageboard. Defending the entitled princesses and justifying such behavior.[/QUOTE]Sorry my intention isn't defending or justifying such behavior although I accept these things. My point is more to describe what I see, hear and notice every time at club. And what is your opinion for the opposite, girls have some disadvantage for optic and offer service below standard price like free CIM or free anal or free BBFS. These things happen also sometimes at clubs you also blame this or you defend it and call these girls are "the goodies"?

Please don't bloat the Dietzenbach thread with generic discussion. It should be in the General Info area.

[QUOTE=Sportsman;1805378]I like the new girl Daria, started there in early OCT, 24 years old, hot looking, speaks decent English. But having read about her in the lineup in the local forum since 15 NOV. May be she is gone already, too bad if it is true.[/QUOTE]She's back. Not sure how long she's plan in to stay.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1806128]Again I ask, would any one still in workforce be happy if they got paid identical pay per hour as someone less qualified, less able, and less skilled? I would walk and seek another job.[/QUOTE]At the end of the month, I think a good girl has more money than a bad one. Even with the same hour price.

This subject is recurrent, all has been said. My personnal point of view is: if you think this business is dirty, don't do it, stay home.

[QUOTE=HappyFkk;1809369]At the end of the month, I think a good girl has more money than a bad one. Even with the same hour price.

This subject is recurrent, all has been said. My personnal point of view is: if you think this business is dirty, don't do it, stay home.[/QUOTE]Exactly. You all are missing the point that €100 per hour is a pretty good minimum wage in any standards. Let's move on experts!