Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=SfoCowboy;2466160]The SB asked me for extra allowance; I asked for extra time to be spent and they have all the time in the world now.[/QUOTE]Good move. For extra tip, I ask for bareback. Only one has agreed to it so far.

Hi guys,

Mongers are some of the best stock pickers that I know. Maybe because we are all into thrill seeking. So I started a new thread on stocks and markets. Just another thread to occupy our idle time while many of us are mostly staying at home during the outbreak.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4173-USA-Stocks-and-markets&p=2466256[/URL]#post2466256.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2465237]Damn I need to re-up my subscription for SA.

Damn fine chicas!

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]I am also having the same experience in MTY, (Mexico), so much better then the states. There is always drama when it comes to women, but nothing compared what I dealt with in the states, The girls are so nice, beautiful, fun and most are fairly well educated.

That is the good news is Mexico is getting stricter by the day. I have been able to drive in, but now the check points are going back up. We will see what happens.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2466257]Hi guys,

Mongers are some of the best stock pickers that I know. Maybe because we are all into thrill seeking. So I started a new thread on stocks and markets. Just another thread to occupy our idle time while many of us are mostly staying at home during the outbreak.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4173-USA-Stocks-and-markets&p=2466256[/URL]#post2466256.[/QUOTE]That is a good idea MW, but I have to tell you that one of the ways to keep things from not being idle is Lovense remote control vibrators. I just got off the phone with a Colombian chica of mine. Wow, damn, that was hot! Not quite as good as being there, but I loved the moaning from a naked 23 year old and the "Te quiero" part at the end. Whew! I will talk stocks after I get a cigarette.

You're brave to do a bareback. I don't do it unless I develop a lot of comfort and understand the sex habits of the girl.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2466231]Good move. For extra tip, I ask for bareback. Only one has agreed to it so far.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Steve9696;2466175]So ultimately this was a bust but I still haven't figured out what her game is. First we are to meet up but I find out she is two hours away in another city. Then I happen to be traveling to her city and we arrange a meetup. She's been girlfriendy all along and sending little pics and how was your day. I get the dreaded "need money for gas". She thinks we are meeting in my home city. In which case she's already two hours late and has no gas money (sure!)

Then she says if you are in town just come to my place. Ok. Cautious here. She says she's babysitting her sisters kids but we can set up a game for them and have privacy in her room. WTF? Ok not happening.

On the one hand she's maybe just out for the gas money up front? But really you spend a month chatting a guy for $20? And why the come to my house? If she wants to lure me and mug me then don't tell me we are fucking in the next room from your sisters kids. Just weird all around. But fuck she was good looking.

As always just move on. There is always a next one.[/QUOTE]Until you got to the part where she invited you to drive to her house I assumed it was just a money scam. I've seen a lot of that recently on various dating sites, like Tinder. Girl shows as being in your city, but then when you try to meet they are "temporarily" out of town. But they are also very reluctant to give out any details of their favourite restaurant or bar. A number claim to be from small, remote towns. I had one really sexy model like girl claiming to be from a remote village in the Arctic. Well, I've been there and there are no white girls there! A number of the girls doing this are Asian. They have specialized in boasting about their side business in trading Bitcoin or currency trading. I assume the scam is to lure you in as an investor, but I never stayed around long enough to find out.

The other girls I think are just doing a variation on the Russian dating site scams. After building up some rapport with you after weeks of texting, she needs a bill paid, or lost her phone, or wants a web cam, wants to visit you, .

Your situation sounds a bit different but maybe not. Maybe the $20 is just a starting point. Next her car breaks down or she needs an airline ticket. If you had agreed to come to her house, maybe she would find a reason to cancel at the last minute, because really she lives in Texas or Taiwan.

But some of the "scammers" on dating sites are really just phishing for emails or phone numbers, sometimes to try to hack your accounts. And many are just trying to get you to follow them on IG or Snapchat to build up their follower stats.

[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;2466473]A number of the girls doing this are Asian. They have specialized in boasting about their side business in trading Bitcoin or currency trading. I assume the scam is to lure you in as an investor, but I never stayed around long enough to find out.[/QUOTE]There are a few of those. One asked me for advice buying gift for her uncle who provided trading "tip". I suggested a 40 K Rolex, a few minutes later she sent me a picture of a 43 K Rolex she just bought for her uncle. Another one who I insisted on meeting to discuss trading or whatever. She disappeared. One I would not sent picture to badgering me for picture. She showed me she made half a million USD / month trading. I told her to send me a picture with two fingers on her lip as a condition for me to send my pictures. She wouldn't and finally gave up on me. Another one owns a Porsche stopped seducing me when I say I am going to visit her to have sex. She said she was looking for something that is non physical.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2466575]There are a few of those. One asked me for advice buying gift for her uncle who provided trading "tip". I suggested a 40 K Rolex, a few minutes later she sent me a picture of a 43 K Rolex she just bought for her uncle. Another one who I insisted on meeting to discuss trading or whatever. She disappeared. One I would not sent picture to badgering me for picture. She showed me she made half a million USD / month trading. I told her to send me a picture with two fingers on her lip as a condition for me to send my pictures. She wouldn't and finally gave up on me. Another one owns a Porsche stopped seducing me when I say I am going to visit her to have sex. She said she was looking for something that is non physical.[/QUOTE]Nounce,

This sounds like something to be on the lookout for. Thanks for sharing! Mongers, using our guidelines that we have set forth numerous times, none of us on this thread should fall victim to this kind of scam. TBH, if a girl is making 43 k rolex money, and has the dough to buy a Porsche, then I'd be curious why she would be looking for an SD. It sounds like she is successful already, and simply has to continue doing what she is doing. Looking to bang a guy for a couple bucks (when she's not in need) doesn't fit the MO.

2 questions for you.

Were these all asian girls?

Were they east or west coast girls (I'm assuming they were in the US)?

02.

[QUOTE=LshRoomer;2466811]
Were these all asian girls?

Were they east or west coast girls (I'm assuming they were in the US)?

[/QUOTE]I found some of them in small town on the west coast. I never confronted them directly but I did it indirectly like I mentioned. Their numbers all have Hong Kong country code so just avoid girls with 852 country code and who talk about trading. Another type I will avoid is the ones that talk about honesty and their profile will mention video chat verification. It is just a way to get you into some other paid sites.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2456855]Just registered on SA, but haven't paid the premium yet. Expected to see many hot woman, but after I did the search, pretty much nothing that would caught my eye came up. Most of the girls are average in the looks department. Is it worth $90/ month? I don't know, but since there are no other options, I may give it a try. It looks like SA is for older guys, looking for a long-term mutually beneficial relationships. I'm in my mid 30's, and have only 2-3 weeks left in CDMX, and my mongering budget is limited.

Just had a terrible session with an independent girl from.

Mileroticos, bait and switch, never again. Never trusted this website, but again, because of Covid19 I could not find any other options. Still no success on Tinder, Badoo, FB.[/QUOTE]I have been now almost 3 months in Mexico with 2 months in Cancun and now a month in CDMX. Except 2 or 3 wrong or bad or greedy girls almost all of them have been amazing and I mean fucked about 100 of them so at an average of 1 each day it is a very good source. Just last week went to the first club in Cdmx which was open and saw 6 hookers for the first time in all these 3 months. SA pussy is absolutely amazing.

I do miss clubs but COVID has caused a great deal of mess.

Peace.

Adios.

Alex.

Has anyone arranged daily (or every second day) meetings with a SB? If so, how much did it cost?

As a reminder, I am seeking an arrangement with a receptionist. She was not on SA. She works at a front desk in a lobby of an office building, which is where I occasionally get my Starbucks. We've been flirting for over a year, then I finally had sex with her 16 days ago, at her place, and then I gave her $200, which she wasn't expecting. The next day, she went on a tirade. Here's an update.

So, I keep texting her, to reassure that I like her. She responds with one word replies or just an emoji. Given that she used to be chatting on text, she is still giving me the cold shoulder. I ask her when I can see her again, and she finally said I could visit her at her work on Saturday at 7 pm, which is when it's dead at the office building. So, I go visit her. Man, it was the most boring hour of my life. But, as suggested to me by you guys, I told her that I only gave her money because I wanted to help her and because it makes me happy to help her. This seemed to reassure her. She obviously doesn't want to feel like a pro. And she doesn't want to be with a mongerer.

So, on Sunday, I asked when I could see her again. She said, "I just saw you yesterday. " And I reply, "I want to see you at your home. " She replies, "Why?" I reply, "So we can have privacy. " I wait, and then she says we can meet on Tuesday morning, which is the day that she works the late shift. So, I thought my persistence prevailed.

Unfortunately, we had thunderstorm on Monday, and she caught a chill. I kept texting her all day Monday to see if we were still on for Tuesday, but she ignores all my texts. Finally, at 11 pm, she texts, "I am trying to sleep. Stop texting me. " But this doesn't tell me if we are meeting the next day. So, I decide to just eliminate the ambiguity and I text, "Okay, you rest, and we will not meet tomorrow. I hope you get well soon. ".

I then decide to stop texting her so much. Maybe I am being a pest. So, on Tuesday, I just text her once, "I hope you feel better today. " And that was it. She didn't reply. I didn't text here again until Friday, "Have a good weekend. I miss you. " She didn't reply.

Then, on Monday, this is 2 days ago, I used one of my old tricks. I sent this text, "I will see you tomorrow, at your home, at 10 am. " I wait. Then she replies, "ok. ".

As someone told me a long time ago, women don't like making decisions. So, you just have to make commands. So, for example, if you are hitting it off with a girl in a hotel bar, then instead of asking, "Can we go up to your room?" You instead say, "Let's go to your room. " It really works. Think about it. If you ask a girl, "Can we go up to your room? Then you are putting her on the spot to make the hookup decision.

So, anyway, I saw her yesterday, and we barebacked on and off for 3 hours. She didn't talk much. So, it was a little weird. As I left, I again gave her $200. She looked away as I was doing it, so I put the money on her nightstand. Later that day, I texted, "I miss you. " She replied with an smiley emoji.

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2463032]Warning: This post contains no useful info.

After our first "date," which was just us bare backing at her home for a couple of hours, here is what happened afterwards. The next night, I asked her when I can see her again. She then goes off on a tirade asking me how many GFs I have, and, do I always go to girl's homes. I could tell she was really mad. I guess I acted like going to her place for sex was normal, but now that I think about it, it's totally not normal. Since she is an office worker and not a pro, I should have asked her out on a real date. I have been whoring so much, I don't even know what normal is anymore. It's weird though, because she must have known what she was signing up for when she invited me into her home. I could lie to her, to keep this relationship going, but I don't want to do that, because that will definitely not end well. So, I may never see her again. Oh well. I have the memories at least. But damn, she was ideal. Anyway, sorry to waste people's times.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2467228]As a reminder, I am seeking an arrangement with a receptionist. She was not on SA. She works at a front desk in a lobby of an office building, which is where I occasionally get my Starbucks. We've been flirting for over a year, then I finally had sex with her 16 days ago, at her place, and then I gave her $200, which she wasn't expecting. The next day, she went on a tirade. Here's an update.

So, I keep texting her, to reassure that I like her. She responds with one word replies or just an emoji. Given that she used to be chatting on text, she is still giving me the cold shoulder. I ask her when I can see her again, and she finally said I could visit her at her work on Saturday at 7 pm, which is when it's dead at the office building. So, I go visit her. Man, it was the most boring hour of my life. But, as suggested to me by you guys, I told her that I only gave her money because I wanted to help her and because it makes me happy to help her. This seemed to reassure her. She obviously doesn't want to feel like a pro. And she doesn't want to be with a mongerer.

So, on Sunday, I asked when I could see her again. She said, "I just saw you yesterday. " And I reply, "I want to see you at your home. " She replies, "Why?" I reply, "So we can have privacy. " I wait, and then she says we can meet on Tuesday morning, which is the day that she works the late shift. So, I thought my persistence prevailed.

Unfortunately, we had thunderstorm on Monday, and she caught a chill. I kept texting her all day Monday to see if we were still on for Tuesday, but she ignores all my texts. Finally, at 11 pm, she texts, "I am trying to sleep. Stop texting me. " But this doesn't tell me if we are meeting the next day. So, I decide to just eliminate the ambiguity and I text, "Okay, you rest, and we will not meet tomorrow. I hope you get well soon. ".

I then decide to stop texting her so much. Maybe I am being a pest. So, on Tuesday, I just text her once, "I hope you feel better today. " And that was it. She didn't reply. I didn't text here again until Friday, "Have a good weekend. I miss you. " She didn't reply.

Then, on Monday, this is 2 days ago, I used one of my old tricks. I sent this text, "I will see you tomorrow, at your home, at 10 am. " I wait. Then she replies, "ok. ".

As someone told me a long time ago, women don't like making decisions. So, you just have to make commands. So, for example, if you are hitting it off with a girl in a hotel bar, then instead of asking, "Can we go up to your room?" You instead say, "Let's go to your room. " It really works. Think about it. If you ask a girl, "Can we go up to your room? Then you are putting her on the spot to make the hookup decision.

So, anyway, I saw her yesterday, and we barebacked on and off for 3 hours. She didn't talk much. So, it was a little weird. As I left, I again gave her $200. She looked away as I was doing it, so I put the money on her nightstand. Later that day, I texted, "I miss you. " She replied with an smiley emoji.[/QUOTE]So clearly great job getting to the goal. And clearly the strong lead was key. If you want to keep her tho I suggest you go a bit less sex for money and take her out or something if she'll go. Make her feel a bit more special than just sex.

The strong frame clearly works. I think I mentioned it before but when I was in London with limited time once I engaged a girl the least bit on SA I'the say "I'm going dancing in Soho on Thursday. Come with me. " And I got like five girls saying yes. I was amazing by how the strong frame totally works. Ended up not dancing but meeting at my room instead. Not sure I posted it. Will take a peak and post if not.

Best of luck in your next date with her.

[QUOTE=Alex7J;2466914]I have been now almost 3 months in Mexico with 2 months in Cancun and now a month in CDMX. Except 2 or 3 wrong or bad or greedy girls almost all of them have been amazing and I mean fucked about 100 of them so at an average of 1 each day it is a very good source. Just last week went to the first club in Cdmx which was open and saw 6 hookers for the first time in all these 3 months. SA pussy is absolutely amazing.

I do miss clubs but COVID has caused a great deal of mess.

Peace.

Adios.

Alex.[/QUOTE]Love your report. I am having the same experience in MTY, just so much fun and meeting high quality and beautiful ladies. I have had a couple of issues with Fake or Doctored photos, but some of that was my own fault for being rushed and no doing my Homework.

In MTY you will not get high Quality for $100, but $150 works perfect. No criticism, just a different city maybe. I love Mexico, it so much better then Colombia, Rio, and Kiev. Not as good as Russia, but I just do not have the time to travel there now too much work, I am very lucky and fortunate. Also, I have decided to boycott the Airlines as much as possible, I just got sick of there b. S. I feel terrible for all the problems and hardship the Virus has caused-but I have zero compassion for the Airlines. I was 1 k and extremely loyal, now I will just buy the cheapest ticket. There service got so bad, it is just not fun for me to fly anymore.

This is from earlier this year, right as Covid was starting, but has some interesting stuff in it. Like even tho she is NOT a pro, her wanting to come to my room to avoid a public meetup. And even a pro like me is never quite sure with an SA girl if she is DTF. I mean yeah she's in your room but it still feels like a date. And the part where I pull down her pants but she puts her panties back on makes me think she was maybe reticent. But then persistence pays off. This was one of my best SA experiences and we were both smitten. We planned to travel together in Europe. It was a bit like Thifany I threw out the "I'm going to be in Europe again next month. Would you join me for a weekend in Paris?" And she's like absolutely. I can't wait to see you again. OMG I was over the moon. And then Covid hit. Fuck me! She's still on the hook tho if this shit ever clears. Anyhow hope you enjoy!

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So even tho the pro scene in London is wonderful (see the London thread for recent adventures), the SA scene seems very solid and I hit a home run recently.

As previously described, I look for girls that have less experience on the site and are more about the experience than high $$. This way you get a "real girl" not a pro. I guess I started working London two weeks back and had some quality engagement. I had probably 6-8 girls who engaged on WhatsApp, which are very strong numbers.

I was taking a very aggressive opening like "I'm going dancing in Soho on Wednesday want to join me?" And the hook rate was much higher than normal. I know from Nanpa, that girls want a strong lead, but also maybe they are tired of endless SA chat and ready to rumble. In any case, I'the say I moved Suspects to Prospects at about 70-80% success rate, which is super high. So I might try this more in the future.

Had several girls signed up but eventually had to put them off when a late-comer I'the written off, suddenly appeared. Wowza! Super pretty Viet. And a really nice balanced chat. Each was prepared to walk away at various points and, as we discussed later, this confidence was alluring in both directions. We agreed a couple days in advance to meet up and I kept her warm with texts in the meantime.

It was quite an unusual meetup because she wanted to come straight to my room. But just for talk and wine and then see where it goes. This was odd because she's clearly not an escort even more clear now but she didn't want to be seen in public with a stranger. (Ok legit but unusual and pretty ballsy).

I send her an Uber and she comes straight to my place. So she shows at my door and she is drop dead fucking gorgeous. Her pictures do not do her justice. Skin-tight leather pants, spike heeled boots and a face that melts me. OMFG. So we sit on the edge of the bed (it's a tiny London room) and have some wine and just chat. She is super chatty and a London local.

Fuck if we didn't kill a whole bottle of Rose and TWO HOURS just chatting. It completely flew by! Obviously she's a chatty girl but I could just look at her face for hours. So I did!

So with that amount of chat, this is going to be one slow buildup still not sure if she is DTF (down to fuck) - but I am enjoying every second. All through chatting, I am doing light touch escalation, which comes naturally to me. But there is no obvious break where a kiss makes sense.

She had said it was her birthday, which I thought was likely BS, but her mom calls with the Happy Birthday call and she has to stop and take it. Actually this is a great opportunity. She's chatting a bit and I am a bit bored and had a few drinks so I start taking off one of her fuck-me boots. Unzip it and slide it off. And then she offers her other foot! When she wraps with her mom, we have a bathroom break each, and when she comes back I've moved cross-legged further up the bed and she joins me likewise. The boot taking off and moving up the bed were clearly key moves in escalating this. And at some point I transition it to laying down side by side, me on my back and her on her front.

We continue to chat, but the mechanics of our position-change now leave only about six inches between our faces. At some point I am inspired and close the gap and kiss her. Pretty light exploratory stuff. She continues chatting on after I break. (did I mention she's chatty?) But at some point she's inspired and leans in and kisses me! Well now I engage and open her mouth for full-on tongue mackin engagement which gets the party started.

I work her onto her back and start grinding on top of her while making out. I love this dominance and it seems to get girls equally worked up. She's got on a halter top with a bra under. Again going very slow, I start massaging her tits through the halter and then work my way down licking and biting her naked midriff and even exploring a bit below her waistband with my tongue. This must be the ticket, because she sits up and pulls off her bra and top.

So I work her fabulous firm be cups quite a bit. She likes squeezing and circles and nipple sucking. I again start on her tummy still not knowing if she is DTF or we are just going to play around on this first date. And I reach up to her waistband and start pulling down her tight leather pants. Well her panties come with but she puts them back on. I am not sure what to make of this; but I am undeterred and will work around this obstacle!

I start by just lick-sucking in that magical little hollow juncture of thigh and body to the left and right of her panties and she starts to grind. Still unsure if I am going to get a "halt" from her, I slide the panties gently to the side and start softly working her clit. OK now I have her going.

She starts to Coo and moan and eventually builds to a substantial O. But I am not done and neither is she, as she quickly starts another build. I tentatively slip a finger inside she's super tight but sopping wet. And some clit and gspot work is on. She is a hot wet mess and feels awesome and man does she love the combo tongue and finger work. She is a complete goner. She has at least 2 more Os. And these are not fake escort Os. This is the real deal with a real girl and this makes SA completely awesome!!

Honestly I would be satisfied to stop right here. I absolutely love to take a sorta shy real girl and get her worked into some crashing Os. Very much like SA virgin Emily in NYC. It's tough work but someone's got to do it!

So we cuddle side by side a bit as she recovers and she says "So should I suck you now?" God I love these fresh new girls. And the answer is absolutely, baby. So we get my boxers off and down she goes. She's quite good on mouth on shaft, but like many SAs I meet, needs some direction to do more licking and ball sucking. To her credit she dives right in and does a quite epic job.

After a good bit of that (I don't blow my stack because I was with a Diva escort just a few hours before) she comes up for air and we are side by side. Again, believe it or not, I am still questioning if she is DTF or we are going to stop short here. She asks me what I'm thinking and I say I'm thinking I want to do more other stuff (don't know why I am quite so circumspect LOL) and she says you mean have sex? And I say absolutely! So we suit up. Yea!

A lot of girls like to start on top to control first penetration. I'm a pretty thick guy and she is super tight so this would be a good idea. But instead she rolls on her back and we start in mish. I definitely have to go slow and less than full engagement till we get the fit going and then it's slippery slide time! Wow.

We do some great mish and cowgirl fuck she's a fine sight riding high! Doggie with me standing at edge of the bed. Pretty much everything. I show her the Andy pillow under the butt position and we get her legs up on my shoulders, me on my knees, and wow fuck she likes that. She goes through two more crashing Os. Honestly I think she would fuck forever, but I'm getting pretty tired!

Even tho she feels great, the condom isn't going to get it done and we go back to BBBJ which feels heavenly. Nonetheless I prove perilously hard to finish. She soldiers on, which I LOVE and we finish me hand-on-shaft and her on BLS. She's not afraid to dive quite a ways down there and it feels wonderful. Eventually I shoot a hard shot on my stomach. Wow!

So we pillow talk some more what a great girl. And at some point she asks the time she knows I have a dinner thing. I say it's coming up 7 and she is like OMG I thought it was like 5 pm! Seriously. She has been so taken with the whirlwind of our adventure that time has flown by and that makes me feel like a million bucks.

Indeed we continue chatting in a naked cuddle for another half hour, spending 4. 5 hours together in the room! And really she only leaves because she knows I have to go. I think she suspects another girl (yep!) but doesn't say. We wrap it up with a parting kiss and agree we MUST spend time together when I am back in London and likely even hit the town a bit now that I'm not a stranger! Wow what a girl!

SA fucking rules!

P.S. This makes two girls I've fucked in London on their 23rd birthdays (Thifany being the other) WTF? I must be doing something right! LOL.