Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Bold Focker]I have never been down 63 str, but as a matter of interest, can you take girls back to your hotel?
I did two girls in sofies last year, only cause the friend i was with, went into a room. It was not a plesent experience, It was musty, dark and i would hate to think what the mattress would have looked like under close inspection? I could not bring myself to look!
I can only assume 63 street is the same or worse!
I do prefer the comfort and safety of my own hotel!

BF[/QUOTE]


From my past experiences (about a year ago so things might have changed by now), some but not all the places will allow some (again not all) the girls to be taken out. I guess their best money makers are not allow out unless its very late at night--just a guess. Of course ,It will cost more for take out.
Although I did ask about take out I never did so and I have to warn anyone not to do so because most of them were trying to steal from me while I was in their room, so can't even imagine what they will do if you took them back to your well stocked hotel room. Best free advice I can offer, don't do it.


PT

Phantomtiger, Yes you can take girls out in most places but not all. Boldfocker's comments are right. Everything is negotiable for the right price and there are some genunely nice girls to be found. The risk in your hotel room I think is probably much the same as any working girl you take back.

I saw one girl I wanted to take short time but she's already been booked long time.

For information, all places are open and business as usual at Mikados and La Cyrcee (didn't check out sophies).

Mikado $15 girl included
LCC $15/girl + $4 for the room.

I prefer the rooms at mikados but the girls from LCC are more fun and generally had better experiences there.

In most cases, I'd prefer taking a girl out, as opposed to doing the deed on a worn out bed, up a bunch of flights of stairs. Is the take off fee the normal price, or are you paying a surcharge?

I'd be most interested at Sophie's and La Cyrcee, since those are places I'm familiar with. I can't say I was that impressed with Martini, when I went last year.

Last time I asked, the takeout fee for sophies was $30. I was sorely tempted, because I had just had the most remarkable blow job from a real stunner, just started there.

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[QUOTE=Gangles]Last time I asked, the takeout fee for sophies was $30. I was sorely tempted, because I had just had the most remarkable blow job from a real stunner, just started there.

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$30 was for TLN? Probably worth it. If for just an hour or two, probably not. Thanks for the "heads" up.

Takeout fees at cyrcee and mikado are $7,I doubt the $30 at sophie but may depend on the time of night.

Since the brothel town has closed are the girls moved anywhere else? Where do you find fresh meat in Cambodia? I hvae never been but I am thinking about it. I would like nice fresh girls and nice bodies.

I sort of thought the words "stunner" and "Sophies" were mutually exclusive

Is the above good? I read Svay Pak has reopened. What is Marini's like? Stickman said he hates it because the girls are as young as 12 is this correct?

[QUOTE=Parnellcat]Phantomtiger, Yes you can take girls out in most places but not all. Boldfocker's comments are right. Everything is negotiable for the right price and there are some genunely nice girls to be found. The risk in your hotel room I think is probably much the same as any working girl you take back.

I saw one girl I wanted to take short time but she's already been booked long time.[/QUOTE]


Yes, I already mentioned not all places will allow all their gals to be taken out, of course everything can be bought but I was just referring to the fact may not be able to do so at the usual rates, but if willing to pay 5-10x normal prices will get you any gal.

Just to clarify, there is a big difference in what the original question was asking, as I've taken gals from other well known bars back to hotel overnite and never had a problem. Difference is that the St 63 brothels (original question)and street hookers are taught to outright steal from you. I should know as they have tried this stunt often from me. Just read my past reports on this subject.

Regardless of who you take out, take care. But known and honest bars with their gals are usually safer as the bosses will not tolerate stealing from their workers. They don't want to earn a bad rep. So the risk factor is very different depending on where and who the gal is working for.--IMO


PT

I have not visited Cambodia for a couple years now and am contemplating a return visit. I always enjoyed the usual places, Martini's, etc. My driver also took me to a Cambodian club which was patronized by mostly wealthy older Cambodian men, but had some classy beautiful girls.

But I am getting conflicting reports about Svay Pak (K-11.) I went there once a few years back in the middle of the day. I looked around and left.

Is there still such a place? Are they doing business? What is the scene like? Does anyone know the true status of this intersting and rather bizarre place?

There is no K11 anymore,but plenty of chicken farms throughout the country.Also plenty of cheap brothels but most only an option if one can speak some khmer.
The city is eeerily quiet at the moment for the climax of the fifteen day pchum ben festival.Many establishments are closed and others lightly staffed as many khmer go home to the village.They go to the temple early this morning to leave food for the wandering souls of people who haven't been reincarnated.
The slaughter of people in the KR years means there must be many of these unfortunates.In vietnam it is worse because there are at least 100,000 missing from the war years,victims who were never given a burial.
The americans whinge about a handful of missing and never consider the huge number of vietnamese who suffered due to the invasion of their homeland.

I visited Phnom Penh this year in January. My friend and I decided to visit the place just to see what is there. To give an indicator, it took us three tries just to find a moto driver who even knew where k11 was located! As a location, the place is still physically there, but the brothels are CLOSED. The pool hall, the cafes and the Home Away From Home restaurant are all closed. So many memories I had of sipping Vietnamese coffee between shags. All history now.

YES, if you walk around you might be able to find some girls on offer, but the situation where you had 4-5 houses offering 10-20 girls each at US$5/pop are definitely gone. Any service you are going to get is going to be a hurried session in one of the houses off the main street and you will be humping on top of a straw mat. There is simply no advantage to making the long moto ride out to k11 for that level of experience, especially when there are so many nice options in the city.

That's the true status of this FORMERLY interesting and rather bizarre place.

I do hear that there are other close-to-k11 type places popping up, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of information sharing. This time the locals, who need some access to super cheap pussy to make it thru the day, are keeping things to themselves. They realise that loose-lipped foreigners looking for cheap pussy just attract NGOs, so I don't expect those places to welcome foreigners any more. Enjoy PNH, AsianRain+

[QUOTE=Ljohnson]I have not visited Cambodia for a couple years now and am contemplating a return visit. I always enjoyed the usual places, Martini's, etc. My driver also took me to a Cambodian club which was patronized by mostly wealthy older Cambodian men, but had some classy beautiful girls.

But I am getting conflicting reports about Svay Pak (K-11.) I went there once a few years back in the middle of the day. I looked around and left.

Is there still such a place? Are they doing business? What is the scene like? Does anyone know the true status of this intersting and rather bizarre place?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ljohnson]I have not visited Cambodia for a couple years now and am contemplating a return visit. I always enjoyed the usual places, Martini's, etc. My driver also took me to a Cambodian club which was patronized by mostly wealthy older Cambodian men, but had some classy beautiful girls.

But I am getting conflicting reports about Svay Pak (K-11.) I went there once a few years back in the middle of the day. I looked around and left.

Is there still such a place? Are they doing business? What is the scene like? Does anyone know the true status of this intersting and rather bizarre place?[/QUOTE]

I was in Phnom Penh in September and talking to someone who had visited Svay Pak just for 'old times sake'. I'm not sure he posts here so will pass on what he said.

He said that the Home Away From Home cafe was still there and he sat and enjoyed a beer. There is not the volume of girls that it was known for but, disturbingly, the pimps were still trying to sell the services of the children.

I, personally, have thought this to be a very unsafe place to visit for a few years now; there really does not seem to be anything to tempt me to risk being photographed by NGO types and then posted internationally as a Paedophile.
Hawk