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[QUOTE=Mtraveller]You utterly overpaid her at 1200. I have to admit that I'm not a good negotiator either. I'm new to the scene but getting better now (full report later). My experience is, if you overpay the girl the first time she has ZERO respect for you and the experience is always crap. Did overpay 3 times so far, always bad. But the best attitude to date was from a 300 AED for half night (2:30 till 7:00) girl.

The girl will always cite at least double the price she actually wants. Effective price are pretty low but their attitude is: "Lets hope he is an stupid tourist, drunken Brit, newcomer. If he accepts, he will not even know the ST is 2-3 hours and LT is 2 fucks. So I can be out again after 1 hour. " Look for my first reports in Abu Dhabi forum how I got fooled with bad service.

Note: I prefer places where I pay for the hour and the price is fixed. I hate negotiating and I didn't believe it until I tried it myself and found out the hard way. Those are the rules from a newcomer who just learned to apply them.

For the first time with a girl:

1) Never ask for the price. Make an offer according to her looks, time of day, location.

2) Set your mind before she can come up with a price. If you think she is worth 500 for LT and she says 1200. Don't be shy, say 500. She might walk away, but might come back later. Negotiating with a smile in your face and self confidence does NOT [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off unless you are arrogant. Say "I have a 500 budget for the night, what is your target? " If she walks off, smile and say something like "Finish off the Japanese over there and call me in half an hour for warm bed to sleep in".

3) Always make the offer in such a way that other girls can't hear it. They have professional pride. She might claim to her friends that she never does below 1000, but will go for 500 last minute if nobody sees it.

3) Impressing a first time girl never works. No matter what you do. She ONLY sees money for work. Will respect you if you pay her the correct price or marginally above expectations first time. Will think you are an idiot if you overpay (Did I mention that already? Did I mention I'm sometimes one of those idiots? )

4) Negotiate service up front (well, you did better then me first time here).

5) Taxi money is normal now. Give her 20. Its not bad attitude, its a tip.

Second time:

1) You can give her small presents now.

2) Never talk about the price and service and time beforehand. Pay afterwards. If she considers you are regular customer worth respect and good service she will not mention money with a single word. If she DOES negotiate money this is the last time you will see her.

3) If she leaves with smile, silently taking the cash + tip (taxi money) then attitute and expectations are set for her. You can now consider taking her out to a restaurant, impress her with a suite, overpay her (e. G. Hire her for a night but only fuck her once, do 1 hour for regular price etc).[/QUOTE]

This is really funny:)
Not the advice but...... well, yeah the advice, especially the part about "well, you did better then me first time here":)

And no Mr. Monger, I don't do anything for just an hour, and never negotiate price too hard, just negotiate the services.

If I am paying the *****, the last thing I want is her "respect". I am more interested in various body cavities, and dont mind if she doesn't respect me in the morning;)
In fact, I prefer being hated by her for bruising her tonsils and ovaries.

Seems that you have convinced yourself of having found "the answer" to mongering (you could have read a few previous pages and found the same).
Good luck and enjoy!

After a disastrous trip to Rattlesnake I got a recommendation of Karama. Headed over early and watched some IPL. Average meal. Girls started arriving around 10. Range 4-7 mostly Phillipines. A couple of CIS.

Met cute phillipine and her sister (sisters. Every mans dream) and after a few drinks we headed off. This time, no discussion of price, service, etc. You really would think I'd learn but it turned out for the better this time.

Showered and then the fun began. Good double massage.

CBJ while some DATY with the other then first sister got on top while we continued DATY. After a while a change up and things continued long into the morning. Had to guide things as little as other than standard service. Little initiative which I'd read re Phillipine girls.

Gave them each 500 and they seem happy with it.

And so now I have a few texts from them. Meet again etc. Anyone got any suggestions? Do I pay the same for repeat?

Hey Macsaffa,

Wow Double whammy on day two. What hotel did you stay in? Was there a walk of shame? GF charges? Do you have any pictures of the twins? Will you active your PM? would love to meet the twins.

Rgds

MaX

[QUOTE=Macsaffa]After a disastrous trip to Rattlesnake I got a recommendation of Karama. Headed over early and watched some IPL. Average meal. Girls started arriving around 10. Range 4-7 mostly Phillipines. A couple of CIS.

Met cute phillipine and her sister (sisters. Every mans dream) and after a few drinks we headed off. This time, no discussion of price, service, etc. You really would think I'd learn but it turned out for the better this time.

Showered and then the fun began. Good double massage.

CBJ while some DATY with the other then first sister got on top while we continued DATY. After a while a change up and things continued long into the morning. Had to guide things as little as other than standard service. Little initiative which I'd read re Phillipine girls.

Gave them each 500 and they seem happy with it.

And so now I have a few texts from them. Meet again etc. Anyone got any suggestions? Do I pay the same for repeat?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Macsaffa]After a disastrous trip to Rattlesnake I got a recommendation of Karama.
And so now I have a few texts from them. Meet again etc. Anyone got any suggestions? Do I pay the same for repeat?[/QUOTE]Karama is a pretty big district, care to be more specific? I am guessing Ratsky’s, it’s by far the most likely but it could have been Maharlika café, or even Rock Bottom or the "Rain Club" in the Ramee Royal (anyone know somthing about this place??), or is it somewhere secret and less well known?

It’s a pretty good rule of thumb that what you pay the first time will be what you pay on any subsequent time.

[QUOTE=Macsaffa]Had to guide things as little as other than standard service. Little initiative which I'd read re Phillipine girls[/quote] Obviously not associates of WR and Piper then :)

Do you guys have know of any CIS incall services fo ST anywhere in Dubai? .

Just like the old days go in have your fun and get out.

Its just that sometimes can't do the whole LT due to early meetings and lack of own place as its a work appt and lots of colleague in the same building. And plus for ST kinda gets expensive to keep on booking rooms fo a couple of hours. And also gets tedious as you have to plan and all

Have tired the expatriates site but if you like the girl and want a repeat after a week or so the girl has already left.

Have also tried lucys in jumeira. But to tell you frankly am a CIS man myself

Any suggestions guys

Thanks

UAV

[QUOTE=Mtraveller]You utterly overpaid her at 1200. I have to admit that I'm not a good negotiator either. I'm new to the scene but getting better now (full report later). My experience is, if you overpay the girl the first time she has ZERO respect for you and the experience is always crap. Did overpay 3 times so far, always bad. But the best attitude to date was from a 300 AED for half night (2:30 till 7:00) girl.

The girl will always cite at least double the price she actually wants. Effective price are pretty low but their attitude is: "Lets hope he is an stupid tourist, drunken Brit, newcomer. If he accepts, he will not even know the ST is 2-3 hours and LT is 2 fucks. So I can be out again after 1 hour. " Look for my first reports in Abu Dhabi forum how I got fooled with bad service.

Note: I prefer places where I pay for the hour and the price is fixed. I hate negotiating and I didn't believe it until I tried it myself and found out the hard way. Those are the rules from a newcomer who just learned to apply them.

For the first time with a girl:

1) Never ask for the price. Make an offer according to her looks, time of day, location.

2) Set your mind before she can come up with a price. If you think she is worth 500 for LT and she says 1200. Don't be shy, say 500. She might walk away, but might come back later. Negotiating with a smile in your face and self confidence does NOT [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] her off unless you are arrogant. Say "I have a 500 budget for the night, what is your target? " If she walks off, smile and say something like "Finish off the Japanese over there and call me in half an hour for warm bed to sleep in".

3) Always make the offer in such a way that other girls can't hear it. They have professional pride. She might claim to her friends that she never does below 1000, but will go for 500 last minute if nobody sees it.

3) Impressing a first time girl never works. No matter what you do. She ONLY sees money for work. Will respect you if you pay her the correct price or marginally above expectations first time. Will think you are an idiot if you overpay (Did I mention that already? Did I mention I'm sometimes one of those idiots? )

4) Negotiate service up front (well, you did better then me first time here).

5) Taxi money is normal now. Give her 20. Its not bad attitude, its a tip.

Second time:

1) You can give her small presents now.

2) Never talk about the price and service and time beforehand. Pay afterwards. If she considers you are regular customer worth respect and good service she will not mention money with a single word. If she DOES negotiate money this is the last time you will see her.

3) If she leaves with smile, silently taking the cash + tip (taxi money) then attitute and expectations are set for her. You can now consider taking her out to a restaurant, impress her with a suite, overpay her (e. G. Hire her for a night but only fuck her once, do 1 hour for regular price etc).[/QUOTE]Wow man you are good. These are great points for dummies like me.

This is all theory, its practical implementation is still the tricky part.

[QUOTE=Ultimate Avatar]Do you guys have know of any CIS incall services fo ST anywhere in Dubai? .

Just like the old days go in have your fun and get out.

Its just that sometimes can't do the whole LT due to early meetings and lack of own place as its a work appt and lots of colleague in the same building. And plus for ST kinda gets expensive to keep on booking rooms fo a couple of hours. And also gets tedious as you have to plan and all

Have tired the expatriates site but if you like the girl and want a repeat after a week or so the girl has already left.

Have also tried lucys in jumeira. But to tell you frankly am a CIS man myself

Any suggestions guys

Thanks

UAV[/QUOTE]

Coming to Dubai for a week this Saturday. I would love to get the contact details and directions to Lucy's.

Thanks guys.

[QUOTE=Rhino64]Coming to Dubai for a week this Saturday. I would love to get the contact details and directions to Lucy's.

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]In expatriate site, search for lucy lu post.

They are many and you cant miss them.

All details are there.

I was thinking to get philli delight so went to Ratsky karama hotel Yesterday , reached at 1045, entrance fee 50 with 1 drink, after getting inside I thought that I wasted Aed 50/-. M/F ratio was poor around 4/1 all phillipine girls and quality below 4, only 1 or 2 good looking girls with attitude so stay upto 1145 and went out. Total waste of time and money.

After that called one of AMP which I recv SMS that they shifted to near lamcy plaza, called that number and I directed to the new location, went inside only 2 girls was available and below average so I decided to wait for few minutes, after some time other girls free so I choose karry avg looking and ok English. 100 for house money and 100 tip. Massage was really good soft and slow no hurry following with CBJ. I am thinking not to go again.

Contact available for senior members. Do PM me.

Over and out.

M

To all

Try Ratsky Ramada for Phil fun. Many new girls there. The bar manager has all the contact. Inform him and he will glad to help. Weekends are full. Week days I am not sure.

Happy hunting

Refugee

Gentlemen,

This is my first venture to the UAE and being a fairly regular poster in other locales, I have tried to glean information from previous posts. I don't have much choice, but I am staying in Sharja (sp) and wanted to know what if any decent fun there is too be had "out there". I suspect that I will have to venture into Dubai proper to enjoy my visit, and I was hoping for some suggestions for the first time visitor. The other thing is, if I do find something worth investing some time and money in, are there short time hotels available in the area? I am pretty sure an hour ride out of town is not going to go over well with the lady.
I know this is a "broad brush" question, but I am looking for your suggestions.
Thanks in advance,

Sky

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]Gentlemen,

This is my first venture to the UAE and being a fairly regular poster in other locales, I have tried to glean information from previous posts. I don't have much choice, but I am staying in Sharja (sp) and wanted to know what if any decent fun there is too be had "out there". I suspect that I will have to venture into Dubai proper to enjoy my visit, and I was hoping for some suggestions for the first time visitor. The other thing is, if I do find something worth investing some time and money in, are there short time hotels available in the area? I am pretty sure an hour ride out of town is not going to go over well with the lady.
I know this is a "broad brush" question, but I am looking for your suggestions.
Thanks in advance,

Sky[/QUOTE]


Well SR to answer your first question Sharjah being a dry ( no achool what so ever there) Emirate not much goes on there in regards to the mongering scene.

So yes you will most likely have to travel to Dubai to maximise your chances I would suggest that to go in the area called the Golden triangle ( do a seach on this theard for more info) more WG per square meter than most other area.

And for short time hotel well you can’t forget you are in a muslim country so they offically don’t have short time stay. Would recommend you look for a 3 star hotel that should not be to expensive example Panorama Hotel in the Golden triangle area and do your deed there. I hope you enjoy your stay.

Take care
FC

[QUOTE=French Canadia]Well SR to answer your first question Sharjah being a dry ( no achool what so ever there) Emirate not much goes on there in regards to the mongering scene.

So yes you will most likely have to travel to Dubai to maximise your chances I would suggest that to go in the area called the Golden triangle ( do a seach on this theard for more info) more WG per square meter than most other area.

And for short time hotel well you can’t forget you are in a muslim country so they offically don’t have short time stay. Would recommend you look for a 3 star hotel that should not be to expensive example Panorama Hotel in the Golden triangle area and do your deed there. I hope you enjoy your stay.

Take care,

FC[/QUOTE]Sky rider. Don't even think of taking the girl to Sharjah!

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder]I know this is a "broad brush" question, but I am looking for your suggestions.[/QUOTE]Fun in Sharjah is limited to playing chicken with the traffic, and there is plenty of traffic, it’s worse than Dubai!

The good news, it’s not actually that far, the centre of Sharjah is only 12Km from Bur Dubai (Golden Triangle) in a straight line, so depending on where you are staying in Sharjah you could be closer to the action than you would if you were staying in Dubai Marina.

The closest locations will be Jules bar and some of the Deira locations, Kubu, Premier etc. But as FC says the Golden Triangle has the most variety and is not much further.

Distance therefore may no be a problem for getting a girl home, the conservative nature of Sharjah may be. I don’t recall too many reports on GF hotels in Sharjah, but I would assume that in general they would be more problematic.

I have no direct experience of the [i]current[/i] situation but a surprising number of girls working the bars can accommodate. You are more likely to find this with PRCs and Africans. I have been offered the options of going to “her place” on a number of occasions recently. The York is probably the best place for this. It will limit your choice, but it will still be wider choice than going to a MP.

A couple of years ago this could range from a decent apartment where the girl had her own room (I even did an overnighter in couple) to a barracks style where a large number of girls live, theses are best avoided! There were also PRC run apartments that rented rooms by the hour. They used to charge be 50AED an hour, this is probably more now due to rent increases.

If you do go to “her place” it would be a good idea to clarify. Will there be any extra charges and how many people live with her before leaving the bar.

Also try one of my original favorite haunts in Dubai - Dubai Grand Hotel, near Al Bustan Residence in Al Ghusais - on the Dubai side of Sharjah border. It has the Iceberg Club on ground floor and Churchill's cigar bar/pool room on second floor. A favorite hang-out for CIS girls - mainly Chechnyan and Russian - some very hot. They tend to meet up to have a drink and a chat in Churchill's Cigar bar from around 10pm, before heading off to other clubs at midnight, including Iceberg Club downstairs, or nearby Jules Bar at Airport Le Meridien Hotel, etc. Also useful for you is that the girls at Dubai Grand Hotel mainly live in nearby Sharjah, and may be able to accommodate you. Good luck!