Jakarta

[QUOTE=Bowerboy;1323178]I tipped 50, 000 there. Is that too much? She asked for 100, 000 but in my experience no matter what you tip and Indonesian girl they will always moan for more.[/QUOTE]50k is my tipping too for average service which is the usual there. 100k for a very good one that makes me leave with a smile on my face.

Try their duo promo for about 400k.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1323178]I would highly recommend this place. Just google hotel classic jakarta for the directions and most taxi drivers know it.

I tipped 50, 000 there. Is that too much? She asked for 100, 000 but in my experience no matter what you tip and Indonesian girl they will always moan for more. What is the optimum time and day to visit there? I was there at 8pm on a Monday and it was certainly pretty busy and plenty of girls there.[/QUOTE]Interesting that you say most taxi drivers know it. I've been there many times and only a few times have the taxi drivers had a clue where Hotel Classic was. Luckily I know the way and can direct them.

50k is fine. I tip that and if they are great, I give them 100k. If they put a condom on me for the BJ, they get nothing and I warn them about that as they pull out the condom and let them make the choice. I find that the girls are very good looking at classic, but their service is normally fairly poor. Once in a while you can find a good one, but not often. On the other hand, the Melawai (Maribaya) girls may not be as young or good looking, but they provide service that is about 100 times superior to any I've ever had at classic. It's kind of like going to the Eden club in Bangkok where the girls there aren't the hottest, but the service is the best.

I wouldn't give up on melawai, there are some winners on the afternoon shift there. And as I mentioned, you won't normally beat the service anywhere in Jakarta. But if you want young girls and plenty of them, north jakarta places like Classic, Hotel Travel, Malioboro, Kings Cross, Sun City, etc are better options. For me, it depends on my mood. If I haven't gotten a really good blowjob, wild shag, or good rimming in a while, I will go to Hotel Melawai because the chances of me getting really good service there is high. But if I just want a girl who will many times act a bit indifferent to me and be lackluster in bed, but not to worry about that since she's young and good looking, I'll hit north jakarta. Like I said, at times I do find a girl at classic who is a good shag, but it's not that often. When I go there, I have the mindset that I won't get the greatest shag, but I'll be in a room naked with a good looking young girl. And if she does provide a good shag, all the better.

[QUOTE=Wiild; 1322064]<SNIP

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[url]http://excelle.monster.com/benefits/articles/2982-the-worlds-20-worst-places-to-work?page=3[/url][/QUOTE]Both url's are US based and are not very well informed, the way I see it.

Crime? Not noticed in more than 20 years of very regular visits.

Poverty? Welcome to South East Asia.

Traffic?"Kalau tidak macet, bukan Jakarta".

If you don't like Jakarta, or Indonesia for that matter, don't go there. But don't moan about it.

You must have guessed from this forum that the likers are in the vast majority.

Do you really think they are all stupid?

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1323282]Interesting that you say most taxi drivers know it. I've been there many times and only a few times have the taxi drivers had a clue where Hotel Classic was. Luckily I know the way and can direct them.

50k is fine. I tip that and if they are great, I give them 100k. If they put a condom on me for the BJ, they get nothing and I warn them about that as they pull out the condom and let them make the choice. I find that the girls are very good looking at classic, but their service is normally fairly poor. Once in a while you can find a good one, but not often. On the other hand, the Melawai (Maribaya) girls may not be as young or good looking, but they provide service that is about 100 times superior to any I've ever had at classic. It's kind of like going to the Eden club in Bangkok where the girls there aren't the hottest, but the service is the best.

I wouldn't give up on melawai, there are some winners on the afternoon shift there. And as I mentioned, you won't normally beat the service anywhere in Jakarta. But if you want young girls and plenty of them, north jakarta places like Classic, Hotel Travel, Malioboro, Kings Cross, Sun City, etc are better options. For me, it depends on my mood. If I haven't gotten a really good blowjob, wild shag, or good rimming in a while, I will go to Hotel Melawai because the chances of me getting really good service there is high. But if I just want a girl who will many times act a bit indifferent to me and be lackluster in bed, but not to worry about that since she's young and good looking, I'll hit north jakarta. Like I said, at times I do find a girl at classic who is a good shag, but it's not that often. When I go there, I have the mindset that I won't get the greatest shag, but I'll be in a room naked with a good looking young girl. And if she does provide a good shag, all the better.[/QUOTE]Amen, brother.

Regards,

Ko

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1323282]50k is fine. I tip that and if they are great, I give them 100k. If they put a condom on me for the BJ, they get nothing and I warn them about that as they pull out the condom and let them make the choice. I find that the girls are very good looking at classic, but their service is normally fairly poor. Once in a while you can find a good one, but not often. On the other hand, the Melawai (Maribaya) girls may not be as young or good looking, but they provide service that is about 100 times superior to any I've ever had at classic. It's kind of like going to the Eden club in Bangkok where the girls there aren't the hottest, but the service is the best.[/QUOTE]I agree with all that, particularly about the tipping. The only place where I've seen girls complain about a 50K tip is Kartika. In fact, if you offered 100K, they'd probably complain about that, too: who knows, it might work, might as well try. That, and the fact that they act like a pack of angry seagulls when you walk in the door, is the reason I never go there.

Regarding the service quality : age ratio at Melawai vs. Classic (or Travel) , I also agree. I always find 25+ give better service than anyone younger, and at 30+, they are often even better. Obviously learned something after all those years, and part of it is the value of attracting repeat customers. But you can get that a lot cheaper than Melawai at Berlian, Ibu Linda, and a few other places in the area. At those places, they often charge 250-300 rack rate and the girls are happy with an extra 50.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1323488]the fact that they act like a pack of angry seagulls when you walk in the door, is the reason I never go there.[/QUOTE]This has to be the quote of the week. What a perfect description of that experience! I have had good times at kartika though. I would recommend to anyone to try the soapy there and take 2 girls. The way they slide both on top and underneath is quite a unique thing indeed. I'm still not even sure how they do it. But I like.

[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1323178]Today at 5pm went to Hotel Melawi in Blok M which used to be quite good for some afternoon fun. Well I can't really recommend it anymore. Pretty poor choice og girls and the price has now gone up to 500, 000 which is pretty crazy by Jakarta standards. Nothing there interested me and I thought the price was taking the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. I actually used to quite like it there for an afternoon offload but certainly not anymore.[/QUOTE]Bowerboy, I think your problem at Melawai was twofold.

One, I think you hit it at the wrong time. Day shift ends at 4:30 and all of the evening shift gals have not yet made it in at 5 pm.

Two, the evening crew is currently slim pickings, hopefully this will change with a new influx sometime soon.

I was there earlier this week in the day time (1pm) and counted 16 girls, eight of whom I can vouch for giving exceptional service. Agree with Smoothy that some may not be the youngest, but they more than make up for it in the service department. Quite a few early twenties girls too.

Likewise am a visitor to Classic but usually end up dissapointed that a young great looking girl seemingly has little interest in ensuring customer satisfaction. But still keep returning, for the occaisional one that performs.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1323497]This has to be the quote of the week. What a perfect description of that experience! I have had good times at kartika though. I would recommend to anyone to try the soapy there and take 2 girls. The way they slide both on top and underneath is quite a unique thing indeed. I'm still not even sure how they do it. But I like.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the thoughts about Melawi. It still reeks a bit of "Bule" pricing and has risen dramatically in just 2 years. I know the service is not as good at Classic but still. 2 smoking hot 19 year olds for less money than one 30 year old at Melawi does seem hard to justify.

Will try Blok M bars tonight to see what is around.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1323497]This has to be the quote of the week. What a perfect description of that experience! I have had good times at kartika though. I would recommend to anyone to try the soapy there and take 2 girls. The way they slide both on top and underneath is quite a unique thing indeed. I'm still not even sure how they do it. But I like.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised one of the three bodies doesn't go shooting off that tiny little table!

[QUOTE=Bowerboy; 1323518]Thanks for the thoughts about Melawi. It still reeks a bit of "Bule" pricing and has risen dramatically in just 2 years. I know the service is not as good at Classic but still. 2 smoking hot 19 year olds for less money than one 30 year old at Melawi does seem hard to justify.

Will try Blok M bars tonight to see what is around.[/QUOTE]I find when I take 2 girls at Classic, they both get lazy and / or shy. So I stick with just 1. However. 270k for 1 and 400 for 2 there is a great deal however you look at it if you get even a decent girl. Considering the girls are young and attractive and the quality of the rooms and establishment is good, that is perhaps the best deal I've found anywhere in the world. But again, the girl may not be that great a shag. The last girl I went with at Classic was without a doubt one of the top 10 worst shags I've ever had (the worst was at Hotel Travel). Even at 270k, I felt absolutely ripped off that night. I should have thrown her back 5 minutes after stepping into the room with her, but I was hoping she'd change her attitude. She didn't.

It's true, the pricing at Melawai is a bit out of line. I complain about that myself every time I go. But Melawai is the only place like that in that part of town. So for convenience sake, if I were staying at Ambhara, I would visit frequently. The 2 girls I regularly go with on the day shift there are both 20 years old, not 30. And they are both good looking girls. Both of them go out of their way to make sure you are happy and one of them gives the best rim I've ever had in Jakarta. Ana on evening shift back a few years ago was also a great rimmer! Unfortunately Shela isn't there anymore, she was a keeper.

By the way, you asked when is the best time to go to Classic. You went at the best time. Avoid it on the weekends, there will be hundreds of local guys loitering around in there on the weekend since the cover charge is so low. It's a pain in the ass.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1323547]By the way, you asked when is the best time to go to Classic. You went at the best time. Avoid it on the weekends, there will be hundreds of local guys loitering around in there on the weekend since the cover charge is so low. It's a pain in the ass.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. And not just loitering, sometimes the rooms are booked solid so you have to wait. Last time that happened, the girl I'd picked sat there rolling her eyes, looking gloomy and bored and fiddling with her phone, refusing any attempt at conversation. I could tell she was going to be a lousy shag, so I bailed on the grounds that the Mamasan hadn't told me about the waiting for a room. She gave me a filthy glare, but I don't care. Saturday night is a pain in the arse. I went around to Berlian and mentioned to the girl I chose, she clucked her tongue sympathetically and said, these young girls, they just want to fill their target and go back to their kos, no real dedication to the job. Spot on.

I am not sure if it is just me being totally jaded with mongering or whether Jakarta has really slid (at least the standard expat side of things).

I went to Melawi Hotel this afternoon and yes the selection was definitely better than the evening shift. But I still coulnt really find any girl that justified the 500, 000 (which is cheap in general but is a big rise over the last couple of years).

Blok M tonight was pretty much dead at 11pm tonight. There was only really 1 decent looking girl there and to be fair she was pretty smoking hot. So its 11pm and there are about 5 girls to each guy and nothing really going on and I offered her 500, 00 for a very short time and she wasnt interested. Fair enough. I went home empty handed.

For the serious monger I would very strongly suggest staying up in North Jakarta near Menga Bessar area. That is where the real action is and honestly I would pretty much write off the Blok M area.

Just my 2 cents worth! Part of the problem I admit is that I live in Bangkok so when I come here there is no burning need to go out of my way for sub standard or over priced pussy.

Blok M doesn't have the hotties it once had, but there is some talent there still. That one girl who works in the back room of D's place is pretty damn hot. I forget her name because I don't like her personality, but she's definitely hot. Her sister was even hotter, but it seems she married some guy and isn't there anymore.

North Jakarta is good if you are interested in short time knockshops. If you want a GFE where you can chat up a girl, have a little fun with her, then take her home for the night, Blok M beats North Jakarta. The problem is that Blok M doesn't get started these days until midnight now. The influx of a lot of sex tourists and a lot of young guys who don't seem to work too much and can go out late has caused the time change. Back when I first came to Jakarta, the action started much earlier. But back then, there were pretty much only old guys who worked in the oil patch living in Jakarta as expats. They needed to get home earlier to get to work in the morning.

I go to Melawai often where I look around, see nothing I like, have a beer and leave. Admittedly, there are only a few girls there I consider to be keepers at the moment. But the service there is excellent with pretty much any girl you take. I like it there because even if the girls aren't the hottest, I always feel good when leaving there. The girls make sure to get me off twice (if I want) and will give a massage as well in between rounds. Many times I'm actually disappointed leaving a place like Classic or Travel since the girl was such a pain in the ass in the room. But many times I'm quite happy as well, so it is hit or miss there.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1323547]I find when I take 2 girls at Classic, they both get lazy and / or shy. So I stick with just 1.[/QUOTE]I love the 2 girls offer, you might be right they can be passive or pretend to be shy, so you have to motivate them and tell them what to do, buy them something to drink to relax, I had the girls touch and kiss each other, fun to eat pussy and fuck simultaneously.

The trick is to pick the girls that you know from the same mamasan, or at least you should know 1 of the girls and let her pick her friend,

It works out for me and I do tip well.

Cheers,

NC

[QUOTE=Menteng;1321866]Planning to go there at the end of November. Really hope to see you guys, along with the MD, JAD, Ebowan, etc, etc[/QUOTE]We'd be only too pleased to meet you bro. It's been too long. Hopefully Knight1001 will be there around the same time too.

MD II