Virgin experience at the Palace
So eventually my dream weekend has ended, and I owe this report to the forum. Here are my experiences from FKK Palace:
I came in late at Friday evening, at around 23:00. The place was crowded with people but not as many as I feared. My first impression is that it was very small and compact compared to Artemis that I had my first virgin visit to only two weeks ago. And the girls were far prettier at Artemis IMHO! Maybe I was not so lucky with the line-up (or the best were busy in rooms) but I had expected better looking / or at least just as beautiful girls as in Artemis. Let me also point out that the girls felt at times very pushy, almost pulling my dick towards the rooms. I visited FKK Oase (see my review in Oase thread) the next day and I can truthfully claim that it was much better and more like Artemis in the way that it was less upselling, and less pushy than in the Palace. I did not eat at the restaurant in the Palace, in which I regret as I was quite hungry when I left and the food is knowned to be good. But then again, I was left with no time to eat:
Alice. 23 year old brunette from Romania:
I started off with this babe that I met in the bar. Actually I was going towards her, not the other way around. She showed me the premises as I was a newbie. I did a 30 min. Session (50 Euro) and CIM (50 Euro). It was not as good session as I had expected, although she was very good at BBBJ in the Cinema. My first sessions are rarely the best, maybe it's the fatigue of travelling, or nervousness? I don't know but I felt it was more a problem from my part. I managed to finish in her mouth anyway, which felt good as I had quite a load spared!
Overall rating: 5/10.
Elisa. 22 years old blonde from Ukraine and Angelina. 24 years old brunette from Egypt:
Ok, this pair are real sharks. They hunted me down in the bar and started rubbing my dick to new hights! I have my feeling that they were both from Ukraine as they were speaking Russian. Angelina claimed that she was egyptian (she looked a bit Cleopatrish) and had learned Russian. They got me so horny and it was first in the room I realised how sharky the actually were. They started immediately with an upsell session that I have never seen before. I decided on them giving me the "naughty" treatment. They started giving me a great double BBBJ which felt extremely good, one on my shaft, the other one on my balls! Rubber was put on my cock and Elisa mounted me, giving me a great cowgirl show, while I was licking Angelinas nice pussy. Elisa layed down and we changed into me licking her pussy. Angelina had pulled out her toy, a vibrator that she lubed up and inserted in my ass! This was a new and quite enjoying experience. Angeline liked to play the dominante part and also managed to whip my ass with whip. I did not see that coming! Change of condom, and I commenced fucking Angelina for a good time, while I looked at Elisa that rubbed her clit towards me. She was reluctant to letting me put my fingers in her pussy though, but that did not matter as I was coming in Angelina doggy style.
Overall rating: 8/10. Would get 9/10, but the constant upsell was more of a turn-off for me. However great performance in bed.
Maya. 28 years old brunette from Andalucia, Spain:
This slightly older chick would not be my first choice normally, but I had to try a different nationality. And this my first experience with a spanish chica. I don't remember so much from the session itself. She is among the first to ask me if I wanted a BBBJ or a covered BJ, but I chose uncovered anyway. She had a mediocre BBBJ and we did several positions, mish and doggy, but I soon started to realise that I would not be able to cum. Still hard-on, but no more juice left. She was sad about that, but she did her best in the room.
Overall rating: 6/10.
That ends my first review of FKK Palace. I ended up sleeping in the cinema with a gorgeus girl from Dominican Republic. She gave up getting me to the room, but was just as tired as myself, so she stayed at my side the rest hour.
First time to palace. On a Sunday morning?
Hi All,
This would be my first time to FKK.
My flights lands Sunday early morning and I have all day before my connecting flight.
I thought to go straight to Palace and be there arround 10:00 AM when they open (I assume thats when they open.).
I prefer visiting when the place is quiet.
Any comments / suggestions regarding visiting early morning? Is Sunday a busy day? When does it starts to get busy during the day?
Many Thanks,
LLL
Car or taxi to Oase and Palace?
Hi
I will be in Frankfurt 11/24 to 11/27. Staying at downtown hotel. Is it better to rent a car or take a taxi or go by train to Palace and Oase?
I'm taking into account of cost, convenience, and ease of finding these places.
If anyone on the board is interested in hanging out on these dates, please let me know.
Thanks
Questions about economics / culture of FKKs
The most wonderful thing about my FKK experience, and the reason why I'm writing here is that aside from being surrounded by naked, beautiful women, it was absolutely freeing to be in such a sex-positive environment. Palace has a pretty substantial staff, and everyone from the desk girls, to the cleaning ladies, to the spa workers, interacted with me naturally. They didn't carry that sense of shame that I get from other parts of the world, nor did they treat me as sub-human, and a mark to take advantage of.
The same with the working girls. They were generous with what they had to provide; I interacted with them as naturally as I do with my personal trainer, maybe with even more warmth and generosity of time.
So I'm hoping someone here can shed light on this. Why was it so easygoing, or am I just imagining things? Is it the famous European liberal attitude towards sexuality? A day here seemed as much of an issue as a day at the spa.
I can understand why the default is being conservative about sex. It's biology, women's chastity has been a prize for time immemorial around the world. And certainly, FKKs aren't all over Germany, just this one corner of the country. The guys at Palace weren't just from sex-repressed areas of the world, but from other reportedly liberated parts of Western Europe.
And then, the economics were also a riddle for me. 50E for 30 minutes of sex with a beautiful woman is an unbelievable proposition. I can understand why some women from poorer parts of the world might do it, since 50E goes much further in the hinterlands, in Latvia, Romania or the Dominican Republic. But I was also with a few Western European girls, and I could have easily dropped 50E for a meal for two on a date. Maybe there's a bonus even if you're German, if you're from some little farm town?
Still, going to the FKK is not only cheaper than a date, it involves less time, sex is a sure thing, and I can pick who's attractive to me. If FKKs were around the world, they could really upend society, which is another reason why I'm so puzzled that they should exist.
Sure, with entry at 75E, the cost is not quite 50E, but you can amortize that. It's still cheap. Plus, the girls pay an entry fee too.
I didn't get the impression these girls were trafficked, although I'll concede that possibility exists. Instead, they seemed to have come to the FKK of their own free will, thinking this to be the best way to make money.
Indeed, I've had paid sex with women in the United States who were doing it for the money, and I've seen how this has turned out to be a good choice for them as I've kept in touch after they retired. They've put the money into real estate investments, schooling, or businesses after they stopped selling their bodies.
But at 50E a pop in the FKKs, that requires seeing a lot of men. The women I saw in the USA were usually at $300 or so. 500% of the FKK price.
Some women in the FKKs might be drug addicts, but I didn't think this was likely. The girls generally looked healthy, and many of them described the strict house rules, which would make it difficult for anyone with an addiction to operate.
Furthermore, some of the girls I met had been there for years, and they had done well enough to talk about pricey things like the cars they drove. So they were certainly doing ok. I thought of several possibilities that could explain their presence.
Some of them certainly just liked the sex. One came recommended by a few of the locals as a good fuck, and she thanked me for the effort I put into our time together and the orgasm I gave her. She was the most explicit about her experience, but I could read between lines with a few others.
Others could have been fallen women, the traditional source of women in the sex industry. Maybe they had been sexually abused, as sometimes is the case in porn. And thus chastity wasn't something that needed to be protected so tightly anymore.
And there's another possibility that I saw. That many of the women there were hoping to establish a courtesan relationship that's more lucrative than 100E an hour. A few of the girls I spoke with disparaged the one-shot tourists, and were on the lookout for regulars.
Finally, I wondered if another famous aspect of European culture might be at play: the taxes. In the European nanny-state society, taxes are probably high. So any cash-generating business might be especially lucrative. Friends who have moved to Europe from the USA tell me their salaries are lower.
Any Europeans, international business professors, or anthropologists care to explain? Would be grateful for your thoughts, and even any recommended reading. (It's quite possible that someone here has already postulated these questions, maybe there's a thread I missed.) Thanks!
[Also, moderator, please accept my apologies and feel free to move this post if you think it's a little off-topic or in the wrong section. ]
Palace a couple of months ago
I went to Palace a Saturday night two month or so ago and after changing and a shower, I walked around and saw the result of the renovation they had done since I was there last and I thought it was successful.
I went to the bar and ordered a coke (as usual) and after a while or so, girl after girl came up to offer their services. After a while, Sarah came up and she has a look that I really like, dark-haired, half big tits, perfect ass and a really nice face and she seemed to have a nice attitude so we went straight to a room. Once there, I decided on a standard 50E session that began with a nice blowjob and after a while she began to ride me, which was perfect so I could see and feel her beautiful tits and after a while we changed to doggy and it took not long before I came in tonight's first orgasm.
Appearance: 9/10 Attitude: 8/10 Sex: 8/10 Social: 7/10.
After a good start I went into the cinema and relaxed watching porn, and a girl or two came and asked if I wanted some company for which I turned down without any problems. After an hour or so Verona came in and introduced herself and asked if I wanted company, which I accepted. Verona came from Brazil and was unbelievable stylish and sexy, she had long dark hair, perfect silicone tits and a rock hard sexy ass. When she asked if we would go to a room I was already rock hard. When we got to the room I decided a 100E session of 1 hour and after a quiet start with caressing and sucking we started with the missionary and switched to doggy style, in the bed, on the floor and against the wall before I layed down on the bed so Verona could ride me to tonight's second orgasm.
Appearance: 10/10 Attitude: 9/10 Sex: 9/10 Social: 9/10.
After that I took an extra-long shower and then went to the bar to get something to drink. At this point there were quite a lot of people there so I stayed a good while before I got to see a familiar face and it was none other than Karina that I had a good time with the last time I was at the Palace, and she recognized me right away. Karina is the blonde girl from Estonia, which has a nice fit body with big silicone tits; she also speaks a little Swedish. We talked for a while before we went to the cinema where we started cuddling and kissing and Karina gave me a blowjob when I suggested that we should go to a room and at the room I went for a 50E session and Karina started riding me directly, and her technique and sexy body and a sexy blend of Swedish, English and German was so excited that I came directly.
Appearance: 10/10 Attitude: 9/10 Six: 10/10 Social: 9/10.
After the meeting with Karina I went back to the bar and began to wonder if I should go back to the hotel or if I should stay a bit longer. I decided to go into the cinema and take it easy and after I said no to a number of girls then came a girl who called herself Valentina (or something) and introduced himself, Valentina is a young dark-haired girl with a slim tight body with a pair of small natural breasts. We walked into a room and agreed a standard 50E session. Valentina started sucking me and I was hard faster than I thought given how the evening had been, and after a while I started to fuck her in missionary and after a while we move to doggy and we went on for a good while and then we switched again so she could be on top and it felt so good that I came in another great orgasm.
Appearance: 7/10 Attitude: 8/10 Sex: 9/10 Social: 6/10.
After that I decided to go back to the hotel to try to get some sleep.