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Willl be arriving later this week and was wondering about the weather. Is it raining most of the early evenings for an hour or so and stopping or is it continuing on most of night.
Sorry for the change of subject. You can continue with prices discourse.
[QUOTE=Amjeck]Is the age info on the ID tag false in some cases?[/QUOTE]
Definitely. For example, a girl might get an ID from a sister or a cousin to magically become 18. Not sure how common it is, but it does happen.
[quote=amjeck]is the age info on the id tag false in some cases?[/quote]a number of **** girls have false id's. they present them when they hire on at the bar. the bar makes id tags for each girl. if the 16-yr old girl presents the bar with a (fake) voter id that shows her age as 19, then the bar will issue her an id showing her pic and age is 19. on occasion you find a bar gets busted by law enforcement for having **** girls working there. in september of 2009 i went into the bar next to kokomo's (the diamond? the duck?), past the atm. i had just eaten at kok's with 3 aussies i had met the night before, who were staying at my hotel. they were teasing the youngest of them, barely 28, because he had been in ac for two nights, taken two girls from bars, and had not been able to perform with either. as the 4 of us walked in and sat down and ordered a drink (we were the only customers), we noticed that 3 of the girls appeared to be (no kidding) 12-13 years. i remember one of the aussies saying, "shit they're babies! i'm leaving." we got up and were walking to the door cuz we wanted no part of it. the girl with the drinks said, "you are leaving? you order drinks." we never looked back.
[QUOTE=Five10]I can buy a fine wine in San Francisco for $100 a bottle.
or
I can search a little harder and find a fine wine for $20.
I apply the same philosophy to the girls in AC,Manila, Bangkok,Mexico,Ukraine, or wherever I happen to be.
"A fine wine is a fine wine" ---be it a $20 bottle or a $100 bottle.[/QUOTE]A spinner from this bar is no more/less likely to perfrom better/worse (or run) than a spinner from any other bar. For the p3000 some gents are willing to pay, I can find two (just-as-perdy) p1400 girls from a different bar and get a three-some. You know, when I buy a hammer, I look for a good grip/feel in my hand, balance, and one that will last. I'm willing to pay more for a good hammer, as opposed to the cheapies they sell at WalMart. A girl, on the other hand, will simply have to be pretty and agree to do my stuff for the next 10 hours. This means there is little difference between this one, and the one down the street. YMMV.
[QUOTE=Rob Woodrow]Definitely. For example, a girl might get an ID from a sister or a cousin to magically become 18. Not sure how common it is, but it does happen.[/QUOTE]To go one step further, I know a couple of girls working in Singapore with their sister's passport. Apparently their birth cert had issues, and instead of fixing it, they flew here to work as maids using their sister's passport. (there is no biometrics in their passport. And that simplified matters I guess.)
[QUOTE=Mackin]Willl be arriving later this week and was wondering about the weather. Is it raining most of the early evenings for an hour or so and stopping or is it continuing on most of night.
Sorry for the change of subject. You can continue with prices discourse.[/QUOTE]
Most days last week (and the week before) it rained late afternoon and/or early evening, with one of 2 days of heavy continuous rain into the early hours.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1]All the more reason to not go in the high-price places? Another gent posted he did not see to many of the p1300 girls he was interested in. I find plenty of those; I can find a hottie to go in any bar.[/QUOTE]
I think these bigger name bars like Atlantis, Crystal Palace and Dollhouse can accommodate more girls in the bar. But, it does not mean the majority of the girls will look all that great. But, by having alot of girls in a large gogo bar gives it more of an Awe and Grand atmosphere to the bar. Thus, drawing in the crowd.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1]
Concur. Not only in Cebu's Mango/Viking's bars, but in just about any AC bar I can find several cuties. One will be willing/stupid enough to go with me, let me take naughty pics, and agree to stay with me till 10am, and be willing to do it for half the p1400 barfine.[/QUOTE]
Yup, just because these bigger name gogo bars charge 3000 pesos doesn't mean that the quality of the girls will be all that great. It's maybe due to the fact that the bar is a big name show bar that they feel they can make 3000 pesos BF. But, to ease us foreigners from being discouraged by the 3000 BF price, they have the 1500 pesos BF to balance it out. You can find a hottie in other smaller gogo bars. My friend BF a cutie at Treasure Island gogo which opens at 12:00am. It's those smaller bars and the BF was only 1200 pesos.
It's like renting a blockbuster dvd title at Blockbuster video. The video rental will cost more but, since Blockbuster is a big name movie rental store, most people will go to Blockbuster video vs a smaller video rental store. However, if you go to a smaller video rental store, you can find the same movie and rent it at a cheaper price than at Blockbuster video.
[QUOTE=Doppel One]I kind of agree and for me the two tier pricing policy is beginning to dull the attraction of AC. I very rarely see a 1500 peso dancer I'd punch the air over and when I do she's more than likely a cherry girl - which is ok but limiting.
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I agree. My last trip I hardly saw anything good in the 1500 range. About 80% in the 3000 range should have been in the 1200 range. The pricing is a bit messed up. It's ok if you visit AC once in a while and aren't too picky, but if you're a hard core monger with specific tastes than AC can be challenging for some. All in all still fun and not too expensive YET!
HI,
with regards to rain in AC.SOmetimes its heavy rain and sometimes it just for a period of 30 to 45 minutes on the afternoon or at the morning, where you will sleep anyway :D
Get some flip flops and shorts and small umbrella and you be fine for barhop since you there in AC for the one and only..GIRLS!!
I love rain, you can sleep good, no noise.
With regards to the bigger bars. I often go there to see the show and to greet the girls I know from there. They have some pretty girls lined up. On the other side you can also find pretty girls in smaller bars. I mean you dont go there to get married, you go there for sex, right? If you want a pretty girl who accompany you for dining, shopping, etc.You should date non bargirls. Just create a profile at DIA and make some contacts before you fly to the Philippines(look up the chatroom sections in here).
I think one of the interesting things in AC and in the whole Philippines is that you really can get all the girls, some for less money, some for more. Its just the idea that you are in a country where its not difficult for a middle age man to get a hot 18 to 24 year old GF. YOu wont get that in your own country, unless you Brad Pitt with the looks and the money :D.
I mean that is the thrill, right? The hunting, the barhop scene. You have all those girls there in AC who waiting for you(or maybe not..)All you need to do now is to stick/obey some rules and your adventure starts. I mean you can drink and party and see what the evening will bring you or you can plan ahead what bars you will go and what bars you will give a miss. You can plan your day or you just see what the day will bring. Avoid freelancers, street hookers, get a trike home if your drunk or if you leave the bar late. All scams, hold ups occur early morning time. They not planned, they just happened because some lowlives are on drugs, shabu, etc. Buyer beware, take a trike home when its getting late/early, dont save money on those things.
Leave your goldnecklace and diamond rings at home. Keep a low profile, dont [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] at the locals, avoid trouble, if you see trouble, walk away from it. Be nice and smile. Dont talk to pinoys who wanted to sell you something on the street, who greet you, invite you to see a bar, new place or anything else. Say nothing, just walk. When I walk along fields I always plug in my headphone, so I pretend I hear nothing and dont need to speak to any MF´s who will approach me on fields.
Dont carry a wallet with you. Take the cash out of it what you like to spent on this evening, not more, not less, if its gone its only your daily budget and not your budget for the entire trip.
Dont fuck with the peanuts vendors. I know they can be a pain in the ass, but they just work to make a living. Dont treat them bad infront of the bargirls, be nice then they nice to you also. You will never know what will happened if you drunk and you go outside, alone..etc. I befriend an old peanut vendor, I only buy from him. he is a hard working guy, he sells only peanuts, easy to spot. He sometimes help me out or take me home when I am to drunk LOL..that could easily happened when your in AC and then you will hear the whole story next morning :D
Ok that is all for today.Maybe one last word for the guys who stay in Manila and thinking to come over for a day or two to see ANgeles city for the first time. Is it worth the effort? My answer is definetly YES. The fun factor in AC is thousand times higher then doing a barhop in Manila/Makati or Pasay.
Blink
You will find plenty of girls in the 1250 -1500 range. I suggest that you keep looking. I have noticed that most folks on here blog about the same stuff. I suggest folks on here look at old postings before posting chances we have discussed it before.
[QUOTE=Westcoast1]A spinner from this bar is no more/less likely to perfrom better/worse (or run) than a spinner from any other bar. For the p3000 some gents are willing to pay, I can find two (just-as-perdy) p1400 girls from a different bar and get a three-some. You know, when I buy a hammer, I look for a good grip/feel in my hand, balance, and one that will last. I'm willing to pay more for a good hammer, as opposed to the cheapies they sell at WalMart. A girl, on the other hand, will simply have to be pretty and agree to do my stuff for the next 10 hours. This means there is little difference between this one, and the one down the street. YMMV.[/QUOTE]
Agree completely (and that never happens). My thought is: So that 3000 peso pussy so much better than the 1500 peso pussy? Um, I doubt it. Maybe if the girl is fresh of the farm, but then you have to factor in the tangibles like experience, willingness, etc...In my mind pussy is pussy, and when you get it, you should know what to do... One of my bar owner buddies echoed the same sentiments long ago, but alas, I was too young. Now I know better.
WR had a nice signature line...Bottoms Up! I think I like it and will borrow it.
Carmex
[QUOTE=Five10]I can buy a fine wine in San Francisco for $100 a bottle.
or
I can search a little harder and find a fine wine for $20.
I apply the same philosophy to the girls in AC,Manila, Bangkok,Mexico,Ukraine, or wherever I happen to be.
"A fine wine is a fine wine" ---be it a $20 bottle or a $100 bottle.[/QUOTE]
Yes you are correct, you can take the time to find the $20 wine, but if you are here for a limited time, why waste your time searching for a $20 wine, when you can buy a six pack of beer for $5?
I don't know about you, but my time is worth a lot more then $20.
Robb
[QUOTE=Amjeck]I agree. My last trip I hardly saw anything good in the 1500 range. About 80% in the 3000 range should have been in the 1200 range. The pricing is a bit messed up. [/QUOTE]Yes, Amjeck, the large bars with two-tiered pricing do this on purpose. They purposely make the pretty ones cost more. If you just step out of that place (its fun to drink in there and watch the show, but not so smart to barfine there), and down the street to a smaller bar (with, say, 30 girls) with one-price-barfine (ie, 1400 pesos), you will be able to find at least a few that are pleasing to the eye (probably more than that). Should be easy pickings in a good price-range. Its easy to get caught up in the aura of a large bar, the booze, the lovelies, the music. Try Geckos, Honeypot, Body Shop.
I was in Atlantis one night a few years ago, it was my first time in that bar. Gotta say its an impressive place, not just in quanity of girls, but in the floor show. A lady in long green dress approached and chatted. So-so figure, but approaching 40, and not attractive. Just some chat about where we were from, kids, etc. I asked how much the barfine was. She mentioned several tiers, 1500 dancer, 2500 waitress, 3000 hostess, like that. She was a hostess. I nearly fell over, thinking why would I want this older pooch for 3000 pesos, when I could have a hottie half her age for 1500. Later in the evening in Crystal Palace my barfine (from Honeypot) and I are enjoying the show on stage. In walks the (Atlantis) hostess, in street clothes, with an older gent, who had barfined her. They sat right in front of us at a table. I could not help feeling like the gent had been ripped off somehow, as I'm sitting with a 21-year-old hottie (who had no kids and would later stay into the afternoon) who cost 1300, and he was with her for 3000. AC bargirls are like airline seats: two could be identical, and two different customers could pay vastly differing amounts for the same thing.
[QUOTE=Robbaf]Yes you are correct, you can take the time to find the $20 wine, but if you are here for a limited time, why waste your time searching for a $20 wine, when you can buy a six pack of beer for $5?
I don't know about you, but my time is worth a lot more then $20.
Robb[/QUOTE]
Personally, I have to disagree with Robb. He does have a point in not wasting time trying to find that $20 wine but, to some, it's not the quantity of how much you can get but, the quality.
To some people out there, they don't get easily as excited by picking a certain girl or girls. Some guys don't mind as they want to rack up as much as they can before their trip ends. I could do this also but, I'll just be doing it for the sake of doing it. But, it's not like I'll be really into it though.
[QUOTE=Carmex]Agree completely (and that never happens). My thought is: So that 3000 peso pussy so much better than the 1500 peso pussy? Um, I doubt it. Maybe if the girl is fresh of the farm, but then you have to factor in the tangibles like experience, willingness, etc...In my mind pussy is pussy, and when you get it, you should know what to do... One of my bar owner buddies echoed the same sentiments long ago, but alas, I was too young. Now I know better.
WR had a nice signature line...Bottoms Up! I think I like it and will borrow it.
Carmex[/QUOTE]
You know maybe you guys aren't making it completely clear on some things. I agree there is a lower risk factor on going for the lower priced barfine in terms of performance, but for some if they come out that far for their once in a blue moon trip, I think they are going to want to go for who they want if it's feasible. This thing "pussy is pussy", I don't know. If that's the case you can take all the old fuglies because it's all the same to you. I know it's taking it to an extreme, but there's obviously a market for these higher barfines for now.
I think for some of us who may get to travel more in Asia and such, we may get jaded as we become more value oriented as we get older and more experienced, but what if you guys who say it's all the same only got to travel once a year or once every two years to a place like this? You going to value shop or go for the one you really like? There are a lot of different scenarios for a lot of the mongers, so it's kind of hard to say well everyone should do it this way and see it this way. It's just not going to happen. There are too many factors involved.
A lot of people complain about price increases but they don't complain when they get a raise or something similar when it benefits them. Stuff goes both ways.