Rants and WTF are you talking about and Coronavirus!

"CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. "

Does BB know what the word differentiation mean?

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2584536]60% of hospitalized patients in the UK are UN-vaccinated. Add the number who are not fully vaccinated and the number for fully vaccinated hospitalized patients in the UK is even less than 40%.

[URL]https://apnews.com/article/492214263305[/URL]

For the month of June, over 95% of hospitalized patients in the US were UN-vaccinated.[/QUOTE]So, it means many vaccinated UK are in big trouble with delta to finish in hospital? As soon I can, I go to climb.

Don't worry, it's just a flu.

"Cognitive deficits in people who have recovered from COVID-19".

[URL]https://www.thelancet.com/journals/eclinm/article/PIIS2589-5370[/URL](21) 00324-2/ fulltext#.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2584724]"CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. "

Does BB know what the word differentiation mean?[/QUOTE]It's a recommendation to adopt more sophisticated / accurate tests, but it does not say the old test could not differentiate between covid and influenza viruses. Why do you always want to sound ridiculous? Let the CDC guidance to people that can understand it.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2584313]Consequentally now that more vaccinated people are getting hospitalized than non vaccinated people (due to breakthrough mutations spreading fast), the CDC figured they cannot use the pcr tests any longer. Reason being that it has a hard time differentiating between the flu and covid.
[/QUOTE]Really the same as?

[QUOTE=CDC]In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test. CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses. Such assays can facilitate continued testing for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 and can save both time and resources as we head into influenza season.[/QUOTE]Do you really understand what you read? There is nothing about vaccination in your CDC link and nothing about mutations. The only sentence partially correct is your last one.

You're as accurate as when you claimed that paracetamol came from tree bark.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2584853]So, it means many vaccinated UK are in big trouble with delta to finish in hospital? As soon I can, I go to climb.[/QUOTE]I think the fact of the matter is even if you are vaccinated, you aren't immune, just that your chances of getting it and spreading it are lower.

Be vaccinated all you want, if you are surrounded by unvaccinated people who are contagious you are likely going to get it, vs being around vaccinated people who are much less contagious.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2584853]So, it means many vaccinated UK are in big trouble with delta to finish in hospital? As soon I can, I go to climb.[/QUOTE]For some unknown reason the UK and Canada seem to be giving people one dose of the vaccine and then waiting until all the population gets one dose and then giving a second dose. In the USA people get their two doses on schedule.

The one dose is not going to work, as the mutant strains already are breaking through the two dose regimen and the one dose regimen does nothing.

[QUOTE=PaulInZurich;2584864]Don't worry, it's just a flu.
[b]"Cognitive deficits [/b]in people who have recovered from COVID-19".[/QUOTE]Don't worry. The antivaxx weirdos are immune to that.

My bad, it was from 8:30 in this one:

[URL]https://youtu.be/Jv3Q74CLU1c[/URL]

[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2584920]Really the same as?

Do you really understand what you read? There is nothing about vaccination in your CDC link and nothing about mutations. The only sentence partially correct is your last one.[/QUOTE]One can get brain damaged from discussing with injured people like you. It is impossible to know what you are referring to from my original post, since you never state what you are actually talking about. So I chanced on two different outcomes.

What you are responding to here is the other variable. Which I posted a link to as well.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2584719]OK mr. Peanutbrain. Since you seem to have a reading disability and don't understand what I am writing:

[URL]https://youtu.be/rAqVAiPXbJc[/URL][/QUOTE][QUOTE=Pistons;2584313]Consequentally now that more vaccinated people are getting hospitalized than non vaccinated people (due to breakthrough mutations spreading fast), the CDC figured they cannot use the pcr tests any longer. Reason being that it has a hard time differentiating between the flu and covid.[/QUOTE]Perhaps it is because English is my second language, but there is no mention of a connection of the posted link to the claim that vaxxed people are getting hospitalized more than unvaxxed.

In fact, for hospitalizations, I actually only heard the Youtuber mention the exact opposite opposite which states that vaccines provided 91% protection against serious disease in Israel's January cohort.

At 2:35 mark:

[QUOTE](In Israel,). In the January cohort 86-91 percent protection against serious disease (and hospitization).

Im predicting the protection against serious disease to be long lived.[/QUOTE]And again, over 95% of American hospitalizations are amongst the unvaxxed.

Over 60% of UK hospitalizations are amongst unvaxxed. Much of the remaining 40% is in the incompletely vaxxed.

-Mr PeanutBrain.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2584853]So, it means many vaccinated UK are in big trouble with delta to finish in hospital? As soon I can, I go to climb.[/QUOTE]No, it means the exact opposite. I've accepted the challenge.

[QUOTE=RockyV;2584896]It's a recommendation to adopt more sophisticated / accurate tests, but it does not say the old test could not differentiate between covid and influenza viruses. Why do you always want to sound ridiculous? Let the CDC guidance to people that can understand it.[/QUOTE]The clue is in the text. But I understand that you are way too bewildered to actually understand it. Of course it does not say what the old tests could not do. Only idiots would write that in their memo. How old are you? 18?

Reminds me of some of the rhetorical methods used in 1984 and in the language Newspeak. Doublethink especially.

[URL]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink[/URL]

It is apparent ahead of you what is written. Yet you are so indoctrinated that you twist it's meaning.

[QUOTE=Tvataham274;2584923]I think the fact of the matter is even if you are vaccinated, you aren't immune, just that your chances of getting it and spreading it are lower.

Be vaccinated all you want, if you are surrounded by unvaccinated people who are contagious you are likely going to get it, vs being around vaccinated people who are much less contagious.[/QUOTE]But more importantly, less likely to get hospitalized. Currently is the United States, unvaxxed is 20-33 x more likely to get hospitalized and 100 x more likely to die. Factor in that the current deaths are amongst a much younger population because the elderly are more likely to be vaxxed, those numbers seem to provide a conservative estimate of vax efficacy against serious illness.

[QUOTE=Mursenary;2584534]Only my experience, but I personally have not intubated a vaccinated patient for COVID related issues in the three hospitals that I have staffed in 2021. The few vaccinated patients who acquired COVID and required ICU care only required pressurized oxygen support for a day or two but not intubation. At the moment, in my 500+ bed hospital with 40+ ICU beds, 2 COVID+ vaccinated patients are in the ICU. One is not intubated and is being treated for uncontrolled diabetes. The other is a long term nursing home patient who was initially intubated for sepsis related to a poorly treated wound and / or a urinary tract infection.

I believe official statistics support my personal experience.[/QUOTE]Anectodal update. Admitted 2 new COVID patients to the ICU today. Both intubated. Both were unvaxxed males in their early 50's. Currently, 5 intubated COVID+ patients in my ICU. 4 are unvaxxed males between 45-60. One is a vaxxed 88 year old male suffering from sepsis from a urinary tract infection and poorly treated wound. He came to us from a long term nursing facility.

Transferred out one unvaxxed COVID+ male from the ICU after a 2 day stay. He should be discharged in a day or 2.

Emergency department was overwhelmed today with less severe cases. Don't know official numbers, but vast majority were unvaxxed. Many were admitted to the non-ICU medical ward. Most were stabilized and sent home with antibiotics, steroid, and albuterol prescriptions.