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[QUOTE=Skogis; 1405176]

[QUOTE=Pete Benetar; 1405153]What is important to me right now is actually that FC girl and baby to be are given the best opertunity there is to stay healthy and safe. The problem is realy FC girl don't want to have any money from me but luckely she accepted my hospital choice and me paying hospital directly so she just arrives / departes according to doctors orders. The liason in hospital tells me upfront when I need to refill the account. Easy peacy.[/QUOTE]Good to go Sko. FWIW, I err on the side of generosity as you seem inclined to be. Again, very inexpensive compared to western world and once you have DNA confirmation you will have a little more peace of mind and go from there. I've had 4 kids and did DNA on each of mine, no exceptions. After my last I figured it was time to clip the tubes, keep the covers off and go hog wild. You'll get there too.

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1398513][SNIP]

But I will go there on a surprise visit in a few weeks. I happen to know where she works (counsil building in Quezon City. Would not be to dangerous I guess) so that would be a great start to do some face to face "interviewing". After this visit I will make some decissions and I thank you for all the advices (and the modest mocking LOL).[/QUOTE]Skogis,

If the filipina you knocked up works at the council building in QC, or any other important government run building (city hall, hall of justice, capitol buildings, ect) there's a good chance she got the job because her family is connected or they know someone. Nepotism is the basis for alot of the better paying job hires in the Philippines. Did you ever discuss with her how she got the job?

Personally if she or any of her family members are connected I would stay out of the Philippines until you know for sure things are ok with her family. Very easy for her father, uncle, brother ect to make a few calls to find out who you are and be alerted next time you enter the Philippines. If you know her family name google it to see what comes up. Not everyone that works in a government building is connected, but when ever I ask the ones that I know how they got the job they tell me through family connections.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1404985]I have talked quite a lot to FC girl and she is comfortable with situation.[/QUOTE]Even though Filipinas are known for their honesty and integrity, the truth is there is a chance she might be carrying someone else's baby. When the day comes for the little crapping machine to be delivered it may come out looking like Kjetil André Aamodt, Manny Pacquiáo or Lou Rawls. Who knows? The Father could be anyone based on how often these Filipina Cupid girls get banged. There are lots of drunken northern Europeans travelling around the Phils dropping their load and later blaming it on the vodka so don't be assured it's yours even if it does look like you. Do yourself a favor and get a DNA check as soon little Anton makes his debut.

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1404985]Through a friend of a friend working in Norwegian embassy in Manila I have been directed to St. Lukes hospital in Quezon City as for the best follow up for the FC girl and the baby to be. Have any of you fellow mongerers any advices upon this hospital (it is private and considered as one of Manilas best according to this embassy guy)?

More in general. Is it free healthcare for phil citizens like in having a baby in a regular hospital? What about consultation program, ultrasound etc etc?[/QUOTE]Some consider St. Luke's to be the best hospital in Metro Manila-or even all of the Philippines. Or so I was told by Filipino friends. I was there six years ago to check on getting an MRI of my hand. It is clean, modern looking, and seemingly professionally managed. It was initially started by Protestant American missionaries a few years after the Filipino-American war. It later became non-sectarian. In my case the quoted price was about twice that of another private hospital almost next door, Delos Santos. I went with the latter due to price and getting the procedure done several days earlier. So St. Lukes is not cheap, but an MRI is not a life-threatening procedure.

There are much cheaper government-run hospitals, including in Quezon City, but CM correctly points out that conditions are often sub-standard and outcomes can be unpredictable. Life is cheap in the mindsets of many workers in those institutions.

One thing to check out is whether the hospital expects payment up front. Unlike in Western countries, where patients get to pay off the bill after the fact, some private hospitals in the Philippines expect payment before they will operate.

[QUOTE=Stroker Ace88; 1405253]Skogis,

If the filipina you knocked up works at the council building in QC, or any other important government run building (city hall, hall of justice, capitol buildings, ect) there's a good chance she got the job because her family is connected or they know someone. Nepotism is the basis for alot of the better paying job hires in the Philippines. Did you ever discuss with her how she got the job?

Personally if she or any of her family members are connected I would stay out of the Philippines until you know for sure things are ok with her family. Very easy for her father, uncle, brother ect to make a few calls to find out who you are and be alerted next time you enter the Philippines. If you know her family name google it to see what comes up. Not everyone that works in a government building is connected, but when ever I ask the ones that I know how they got the job they tell me through family connections.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the advice but as far as I know she has got her possition through education and not contacts. She is doing some campaigning for the coming election in May I think it was but works normaly in the Quezon Council building next to a big park. Family as in mother, father and her sister are running four small familymarts according to ms FC Counsil girl. FC girl don't want to be in charge of the last one. She mentioned the first day we met as we where passing the police headquarter on our way for bedsession, driving the distance Quezon. Makati, she did infact had an aunty beeing a policeofficer (training other police in the policeacademy). It does not seems her family and herself are in any moneytrouble. She have given me grand tour (webcam) of her house and it looks big and decent with modern electricityarrangments, modern furniture and a few bathrooms, hehe. She was kind to show her pussy as well but that is another story. So I feel safe and I have contacts in the norwegian embassy and he is very helpful giving me advices (worked as diplomat for many years in Makati).

She talks in a way about her parents as they are very kind people so it might well be true. She is still a bit afraid of telling her mother in particular. In a way so am I when times come, hehe, so I guess that is normal. But thanks for the heads up.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1405274]One thing to check out is whether the hospital expects payment up front. Unlike in Western countries, where patients get to pay off the bill after the fact, some private hospitals in the Philippines expect payment before they will operate.[/QUOTE]I was directed to St Lukes as I believe the norwegian diplomats at the embassy uses this place for healthissues. My contact directed me to the liason at the hospital (I am told he is handling payment from the embassy as well and are trustworthy). The liason contacted me and gave me details for electronicaly transfering money into a account. So far I have put 30000PHP into it. I passed the info on to my handling officer in my bank and she fixed the rest with St Lukes (so details from that I don't know). When money runs out liason will upfront advice me to send more and so I will. He sends me scanned copies of bills through e-mails. FC girl can just come and go as the doctor tells her and I guess they see in their computersystem that she is all good and everything is paid for. So in a way I have paid upfront. My embassy contact didn't blink his eye when I told him so I guess maby this is quite normal to do. It seems to be a serious hospital with good rep I guess diplomats will accept no less than the best, hehe.

[QUOTE=Skogis;1405284]IIt seems to be a serious hospital with good rep I guess diplomats will accept no less than the best, hehe.[/QUOTE]Compared to the rest, St Lukes is a professional Outfit. Run by a missionary group.

Though, as it is in Philippines, confidentiality is always at stake.

For diplomats, well, most of the time, Diplomats are advised to go for post-billing hospitals, and St Lukes and the lot are in the list due to their marketing campaigns for expats!

So, yes, they are good, but because diplomats and expats patronise 'them don't make 'them ZE BEST. (just my 2 cents.)

There are better and caring doctors and hospitals, but they aren't around manila. Sad to say.

[QUOTE=Skip Kost;1405274]There are much cheaper government-run hospitals, including in Quezon City, but CM correctly points out that conditions are often sub-standard and outcomes can be unpredictable. Life is cheap in the mindsets of many workers in those institutions.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't quite paint the government hospital staff, doctors and nurses alike, in such a bad faith.

I know enough in Manila, and also outside, and far away, and those in Govt hospital are doing the best, with their limited resources, and the staff have resisted the temptation to scoot overseas shows their commitment and care for the govt hospital patients.

Enough said, back to the subject.

As if I needed still another reminder of the general haplessness of consumer culture here, I received it again today as once more, Cebu Pathetic Airlines lived down to my expectations. I've got an important meeting in Cebu tomorrow morning, and so bought a ticket on a Cebu Pathetic flight schduled to leave this morning at 11:30. I've got a good contact with one of the airport guys who, for some consideration, meets me at the airport entrance with my boarding pass and departure tax coupon, thus allowing me to avoid having to hang around well in advaance of flight departure times. This morning, he texted me to let me know that the flight would be delayed by 30 minutes. When I got to the airport however, I noted that no new departure time was listed on the board, so I asked one of the desk agents, who might be old enough to start shaving in a year or two, when the flilght was leaving. He returned the typical deer-in-the-headlights "huh" stare and finally admitted he had no idea. Finally, and hour and 3 or 4 people later, one surly desk jockey mumbled that the flight would leave Cebu at noon, arrive Davao 45 minutes later, and take off again for Cebu at 1:15. That being the case, I left the airport to have some lunch. I returned about 1 only to be told by my airport buddy that the flight was postponed until tomorrow morning because of technical problems. So, having wasted about 4 hours, I bought a ticket on another airline with a flight for early evening.

The bottom line for me of course is that I wasted the entire day, which is attributable solely to the stolid stupidity, incompetence and genuine indifference of Cebu Pathetic's management. As far as I could tell, I was the only foreigner with tickets, and the newly-disenfranchised Filipinos accepted it all with bovine placidity. This reinforced two lessons learned long ago: lesson one, that there's no value placed here on time, efficiency or competence in any recognizable form; number 2, that Filipinos are so habituated to wretched service that for them, it's the norm. How anyone can remain genuinely optimistic about the prospects for development here is beyond me.

GE

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1406281]bovine placidity. : lesson one, that there's no value placed here on time, efficiency or competence in any recognizable form; .

GE[/QUOTE]Great phrase." bovine placidity".

However its not restricted to the Philippines.

Two weeks back I took a train ride from Shanghai to Hangzhou.

On arriving in Hangzhou was directed to the taxi queue which was in a basement, and the queue (line) was about 5 wide and 250 deep. A few cripples and others were also there as they had a captive begging market.

Various other train travellers walked up and basically ignored the end of the queue and headed as close to the front as they could get.

No one blinked, batted or bawled. Till Johnny Foreigner (me) started to suggest " Oi Chinese fellow, how about you start queuing at the back instead of the front ".

The Chinese fellows to whom this was said gave an equally bovine type look at me and headed back to the back of the line.

All the time I'm thinking, surely there will be a hostile reaction to the queue jumpers or to the white boys suggestions. But no. Mute bovine type acceptence.

I actually saw a t-shirt today that said "Its More Fun Commuting by Jeepney." It had a pic of a jeepney chugging down the road with passengers that had their heads out the windows smiling and waving. Of course the black smoke was billowing out of the back. I've been on a jeepney exactly ONCE in my life and at 6'1" my head was between my knees. I was an aching sweaty, miserable and ill tempered white guy needing assistance in de-jeepneying by the time we got to where we were going which was only a mile (30 minutes) away. I was ready to puke on my legs and feet by the time the ride got us to where we were going. If I am ever ever ever forced to ride one of those things again, I'll just bring a rubber hose, attach it to the exhaust and kill myself then and there. Can you imagine 2 or 3 rides to and from work in 2 or 3 different jeepneys? No wonder customer service is so [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] poor. They're brain dead from all of the fumes by the time they get to work. Yes, commuting is more fun in a jeepney. Utterly stupid t-shirt. After 3 months of living here full time I now know why foreigners aren't allowed to possess or own firearms.

[QUOTE=Dante2; 1406610]Why no Cebu forum?

Where does Cebu talk go?

Weird to see a davao thread but not cebu[/QUOTE]It sure its weird to see a Davao, dog city, thread, but no, Cebu Sexy City thread, in amongst all the other threads.

We have been through this all before, that is, us guys who want to see Cebu thread listed in amongst all other threads. That is, there IS a Cebu City thread, but you have to be in the know to find it.

You have to have inside knowledge to locate Cebu. I think a lot of newbies do not know that the city and mongering in that city exists!

Next post in 2 mins I will give you the url to click. Once you get the thread, record it as a Favourites. Thats the way I get it anyway. Looks for my next post and the key to Cebu.

[QUOTE=Dante2; 1406610]Why no Cebu forum?

Where does Cebu talk go?

Weird to see a davao thread but not cebu[/QUOTE]Click the following link and then make it your Favourites. Others will have a more sophisticated way to find it I suppose.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu[/url]

[QUOTE=Dante2; 1406610]Why no Cebu forum?

Where does Cebu talk go?[/QUOTE]Link to Cebu Forum:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?773-The-Philippines-Cebu[/url]

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1406281]The bottom line for me of course is that I wasted the entire day, which is attributable solely to the stolid stupidity, incompetence and genuine indifference of Cebu Pathetic's management. As far as I could tell, I was the only foreigner with tickets, and the newly-disenfranchised Filipinos accepted it all with bovine placidity. This reinforced two lessons learned long ago: lesson one, that there's no value placed here on time, efficiency or competence in any recognizable form; number 2, that Filipinos are so habituated to wretched service that for them, it's the norm. How anyone can remain genuinely optimistic about the prospects for development here is beyond me.

GE[/QUOTE]Thanks for reminding me of these things. Just booked a 3P tix which needs to fly ontime otherwise I miss a connection.

As for aircraft technical issues perhaps the staff genuinely don't know. If the aircraft goes you / s then the techs nee towork on it and would give a best estimate of the fix time based on not even getting a decent look at the problem. As tey get into it they don't want constant enquiry as to how the work is progressing, when will it be fixed it. That leads to accidents and omissions. And you already stress is not a Phils attribute for high performance.

Actually your story has made me seriously reconsider my itinerary though. If it goes wrong though, I'll get to spend more days in Cebu. That's not a bad thing.