Angeles City

I have a friend who works in Insomnia. 35 years old, 7 kids, totally busted body.

But she makes 20k to 30k per month

She has been barfined for 4 weeks to travel round the country, and 2 weeks doing the same.

The key is that she is great company, and the overall experience that she gives is very good.

I sometimes bf her in the evening for dinner, and to give her the night off, then I go elsewhere to bf my root for the night.

I keep telling the bargirls and the mamasans that their business is to give the customer a good experience. For some guys, a good experience is ferocious fucking for hours on end. For others, it is good company, and someone to keep them warm at night. And everything in between. Some just want to be seen walking with a stunner hanging off their arm, and drop dead gorgeous in the swimming pool. Eye candy.

If the customer has a good experience, and considers the experience to be good value for money, then it is of no matter what he pays.

This is why some of the high rollers in the west will pay a hooker $10,000 a day. Because he sees that he gets good value for his money.

So stop this unseemly haggling about who is paying the right money and who is not.

To each his own.

[QUOTE=Gangles]........................... If the customer has a good experience, and considers the experience to be good value for money, then it is of no matter what he pays.
............................... so stop this unseemly haggling about who is paying the right money and who is not.

To each his own.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely correct Gangles. You put very eloquently exactly what I have always thought about this whole business. I never worry about what is the "going rate". I pay whatever I want to.

And like you, I have also barfined a girl just to give her a night off. Last week I did just that. Gave EWR to 2 girls who were close friends; dropped off one to her home and kept the other. Everybody was happy.

[QUOTE=Amjeck]Is the age info on the ID tag false in some cases?[/QUOTE]
Amjek, its not just girls & its not just age.
Paperwork here in this country is very, very dodgy. Men & women of all ages employ fixers & fake papers of all kinds (Birth/Death/Marriage/Education/Health Checks) to achieve a desired outcome.
It pays to use your people skills & not get into confrontations with hookers (or any one else) & wear a condom.
Could be very costly..

AV

Go in, have something to drink, look at the girls for a while, then leave.

[QUOTE=Gangles]


So stop this unseemly haggling about who is paying the right money and who is not.

To each his own.[/QUOTE]

Talking about money on a sex site is unseemly?

Hm, I would have thought it one of the more important aspects of our discussions.

However, to each his own, as you say.

For those who have unlimited funds, I agree with most of what you say - Too Right Gangles. However, many people do not have unlimited funds, many people are relative newbies to AC and therefore may not be parting with that 3000P because it is their choice, but because they are information poor and are effectively conned into paying that amount.

I have no problem with someone paying $10000 for a night if they have the $$ (I may well question their sanity, but that is another matter. As an aside, just imagine how much Donald Trump effectively paid Ivana per night. And he is supposed to know about $$ hah.) but for most people that is not reality, and so therefore if they wish to go into negotiations in AC fully armed with knowledge of prices and the fact that price often has nothing to do with the final performance given, why should they not do so?

For the average newb punter, the advice from five 10 (and others) of going into the two tier price bars, buying a drink, watching the show, then going elsewhere to barfine is about the wisest I have seen. It is also what a lot of experienced punters do too.

About a year ago, I paid 3,000 Peso's for a girl for the first time. She was working in Atlantis at the time, it was getting late, and I couldn't find what I was looking for in the 1,500 Peso range. She was 4-10, weighed about 70 LBS, and had hair that hung down to her calves. She was stunningly beautiful, and had a great attitude in the bar. I paid her barfine, and took her back to my hotel. She fucked me 5 times over the next 12 or so hours, gave great head, took it in the ass, let me take pictures...anything I wanted. She stayed until she had to go to work the next night. I tipped her well when she left, and I was completely satisfied with the price and services she had provided.

Two nights latter, I tried another 3,000 Peso girl, this time from Dollhouse, she was great fun in the bar, she was worthless in bed, wanted to go to sleep after one round, woke up early in the morning and then woke me up saying she "had" to leave...for something who knows. She was trying to wrangle a tip from me, which didn't work..I don't reward her kind of behavior.

Since then I have barfined girls of all different prices ranges. I believe that the price of the girls does not matter in general, but that the 3,000 Peso girls are prone to being average or less in bed. They also usually only want to drink, double lady drinks, which I don't buy. They are the biggest scam in AC, but thats a different subject entirely.

With the exception of the girl from Atlantis, most of the girls that I remember for being great in bed, were in the 1200-1500 Peso range, and most of them from Perimeter Road.

3,000 Peso barfines and double lady drinks aren't going anywhere, and in fact will probably be the norm in AC in a few years, so lets just enjoy it while we can.

Hearing on another board that Forbidden City, Dirty Duck and Camelot were raided. Any punters here involved in any of them or witness to them?

[QUOTE=Dveight]About a year ago, I paid 3,000 Peso's for a girl for the first time. She was working in Atlantis at the time, it was getting late, and I couldn't find what I was looking for in the 1,500 Peso range. She was 4-10, weighed about 70 LBS, and had hair that hung down to her calves. She was stunningly beautiful, and had a great attitude in the bar. I paid her barfine, and took her back to my hotel. She fucked me 5 times over the next 12 or so hours, gave great head, took it in the ass, let me take pictures...anything I wanted. She stayed until she had to go to work the next night. I tipped her well when she left, and I was completely satisfied with the price and services she had provided.

Two nights latter, I tried another 3,000 Peso girl, this time from Dollhouse, she was great fun in the bar, she was worthless in bed, wanted to go to sleep after one round, woke up early in the morning and then woke me up saying she "had" to leave...for something who knows. She was trying to wrangle a tip from me, which didn't work..I don't reward her kind of behavior.

Since then I have barfined girls of all different prices ranges. I believe that the price of the girls does not matter in general, but that the 3,000 Peso girls are prone to being average or less in bed. They also usually only want to drink, double lady drinks, which I don't buy. They are the biggest scam in AC, but thats a different subject entirely.

With the exception of the girl from Atlantis, most of the girls that I remember for being great in bed, were in the 1200-1500 Peso range, and most of them from Perimeter Road.

3,000 Peso barfines and double lady drinks aren't going anywhere, and in fact will probably be the norm in AC in a few years, so lets just enjoy it while we can.[/QUOTE]
I never feel compelled to pay PHP3000 in Angeles. I know the local prices & I don't any waste time at all even looking at the high priced ones. Im glad you had a good experience with one of them.
Frankly I let the girl choose me & this almost always has lead to a good result. YMMV

AV

just wanted to add some info to a few postings.

* waitress from golden nile told me the club was raided last night. had **** girl. club will stay open. mamasan went to jail. *

lots of postings about barfines vs. quality. it is true that you can find equal quality and performance for 1/2 the money. over the years, i have barfined many girls that are now 3000p for 1500p before they 'moved up'.

usually once a girl gets over being shy to dance a sexy solo routine...she can become a 3000p girl.

when i am here on vacation i just review the local talent. if a girl looks good to me that night, i barfine her. don't really see the logic in passing her up and go looking for someone equal for less money.

weather is good. lots of girls and the clubs are not crowded.

I've taken a showgirl for 3,000ps once during my latest trip.
For the eye candy, very nice, why not?
But the performance wasn't better than any other girl.

I guess it's a tactics to bring up the prices significantly,
not just the 100ps steps every year or so.

Put all girls above 6/10 somehow as showgirls and just leave
the ugliest in the lower tier.
What follows is some complaining in the forums, okay, who cares,
and 6-12 months later the punters are used to pay 3k.

Hopefully I'm wrong......
Enjoy!

You can have bad experiences at any price level. It just hurts more at the higher price when it happens. At the same time, you'll never know sometimes. I think some guys have to be realistic too when they barfine about whether you're going to get treated nicely and if the woman really can be into you. I know people are going to say they don't care about looks and age and behavior, but come on. I'm still lucky to be somewhat in shape and stuff, but I realize when the aging really takes hold of me, my experiences will probably not be improving but get worse over time. I will have to be more realistic about trying to take a hottie later on and whether she's just acting and stuff like she likes me or is into me. We all go through our phases. Even if it's possible like for me now, you definitely will get some duds and women lying to get you to take them and such. It's just part of the game. The great part is, there's a replacement pretty much close by here 24/7.

What's this I hear about raids on AC bars? How many bars have been raided? How serious is this crackdown?

I have read news reports that say the Philippines is in danger of losing some $250 million in aid from the US State Department if it does not improve the prosecution of trafficking syndicates.

Damn, is this Cambodia all over again?

Hi everyone, long time reader, i have a quick question.

I was down in AC in june and well I miss it and want to go back :)

I will be off my deployment in Janurary and was wondering what the atmosphere is like in that type of the year. Early januraryish are there alot of bargirls down there? Do the pretty ones go back home to spend time with the fam? hows the action down there?

[QUOTE=Rubberyman]Talking about money on a sex site is unseemly?

Hm, I would have thought it one of the more important aspects of our discussions.

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Price discussion is one of the most important subjects to discuss on this forum. We are all spending money on sex so it is vital that we continue to chat about pricing.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo]What's this I hear about raids on AC bars? How many bars have been raided? How serious is this crackdown?[/QUOTE]

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