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[QUOTE=Optimist;1936390]Pisyons. A small additional note. The various ethnic groups in Transylvania kept themselves separate with Saxon Germans. Romanians, Hungarians, Hungarian gypsies, and Romanian gypsies all living in separate villages with very separate cultures. So, as you say, it is not incorrect for a girl of Romanian nationality to be ethnically Hungarian.

Of course nearly all the Saxon Germans left after 1989, but the separation of ethnic groups still remains to a significant degree.

In WW1 German Rommel repelled the Romanian army which invaded Austria-Hungarian Transylvania. But the 1919 peace gave the area to Romania as you say.[/QUOTE]Desert Fox was a king! Great warrior! Good old golden days of collaboration between German military and Japanese imperial army. 72 years pass since end of all that and Germany is not Germans anymore and Japan do not have military as we want, but it will change soon or later.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1936240]Well I am going to tell them that I am from Romania when they tell me they are Spanish or Italian LOL.

I am prototype Romanian LOL I am from Bucharest LOL.[/QUOTE]I tell them, I prefer Romanian girls & they switch back fast. I'm Romanian! Really? I thought you are from Ukraine (Spain Italy Poland Greece whatever! No I'm really Romanian!

I remember when Romina, ex GT now retired, first started working this job at world 8-9 yrs ago. She was fresh off the bus, 18 not a word of English. She was smoking hot in those days! I banged her 3 times that day & each time in the room I asked her where she was from. 3 different answers. Russia, Ukraine & Belarus.

Hehe, one trick you can do when you hear a girl says she is not romanian is to approach her when she is talking to a friend. Then ask the friend where the both of them are from. Had a girl at Oceans tell me she was Serbian. Then when she and her friend later came over to me and asked for a threesome I asked the other one where they came from, and she quickly said they both were from Bulgaria. They had a bit of a problem explaining that one.

Me: 'But she was serbian 20 minutes ago'

'Uh, (looks are traded between the girls and a silent moment) No, we are from Bulgaria. Well, I mean her mom and dad is from Serbia, but she has lived in Bulgaria'.

'Yes'

LOL!

I have no idea why they bother really.

[QUOTE=Optimist;1936390]In WW1 German Rommel repelled the Romanian army which invaded Austria-Hungarian Transylvania. But the 1919 peace gave the area to Romania as you say.[/QUOTE]Mmmmmm. Erwin Rommel was promoted to Hauptmann (Captain) end of 1917 or early 1918 after he fought on the Italian Isonzo front. His fights in Romania date from well before that date when he was still only a Oberleutnant (First Lieutenant). So saying that Rommel "repelled the Romanian army which invaded Austria-Hungarian Transylvania" seems rather strange as he commanded only a company of Alpine troops at the time. The Romanian Army was perhaps not the very best, but an Army beng repelled by a company is stretching the truth.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1936942]Mmmmmm. Erwin Rommel was promoted to Hauptmann (Captain) end of 1917 or early 1918 after he fought on the Italian Isonzo front. His fights in Romania date from well before that date when he was still only a Oberleutnant (First Lieutenant). So saying that Rommel "repelled the Romanian army which invaded Austria-Hungarian Transylvania" seems rather strange as he commanded only a company of Alpine troops at the time. The Romanian Army was perhaps not the very best, but an Army beng repelled by a company is stretching the truth.[/QUOTE]The Romanian army was led by a Frenchman.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1936948]The Romanian army was led by a Frenchman.[/QUOTE]No it wasn't lead by French man, it was lead by French man who speak fluent Romanian just like Spanish and Italian girl in FKK who speak fluent Romanian LOL.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1936948]The Romanian army was led by a Frenchman.[/QUOTE]Sirioja? .

[QUOTE=MrHo;1936240]Well I am going to tell them that I am from Romania when they tell me they are Spanish or Italian LOL.

I am prototype Romanian LOL I am from Bucharest LOL.[/QUOTE]On first time I came to pretty Karin, she introduced herself as coming from Valencia, I answered: I don t like Spanish girls, which is not true, then she said: I was born in Romania, so I answered: You are pretty like a Romanian woman, we smiled and went for a great room.

Isabella introduced herself as Italian, I knew she lied because with Laura they said they were sisters and didn't speak in Italian, I said to her: I like You how You are and now she tells me about her holidays in Romania.

Many lie because they know many guys don t like Romanian girls, thinking they will steal them, but if they look what they look like in mirror, they should understand these poor Romanian girls wouldn't even give them a look in the street.

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1936942]Mmmmmm. Erwin Rommel was promoted to Hauptmann (Captain) end of 1917 or early 1918 after he fought on the Italian Isonzo front. His fights in Romania date from well before that date when he was still only a Oberleutnant (First Lieutenant). So saying that Rommel "repelled the Romanian army which invaded Austria-Hungarian Transylvania" seems rather strange as he commanded only a company of Alpine troops at the time. The Romanian Army was perhaps not the very best, but an Army beng repelled by a company is stretching the truth.[/QUOTE]I am glad my historical inaccuracy has been corrected. I am happy there are so many well informed members.

My statement was not "strange" or "stretching the truth", just inaccurate.

There is a debate under the Oase thread about whether a girl who cheats should be accepted because maybe she has a bad day or money problems. It has also been suggested that the customer is responsible because he is not sufficiently supportive of the girl having a nice time.I am trying to move the discussion to this thread.

Whilst I always suggest being supportive and nice to a girl, even if they are obnoxious and / or dishonest, I would never take responsibility for her behavior. She remains responsible for her own behavior. And if it crossed a certain point I would go to the front counter as Breadman says: for example if she tells lies about me to other girls for me not falling for her fraud, or if she threatens me for not paying an exorbitant sum.

Some members suggest we accept being cheated because a girl may have either a family needing chemotherapy or a ruthless pimp. No. To accept cheating only reinforces dishonesty, supports such pimps, and damages honest girls and customers.

If a girl has problems then she has an option: earn money honestly. A girl recently worked extra hours to make 6000 euro in a short space of time to pay for a family operation. I respect her and paid her a lot of money (at a rate of 50 per half hour).

Also we need to differentiate between an honest girl having a bad day and dishonesty. I have inexhaustible patience for a girl having a bad day, and will even pay so she can just go to a room and have a rest! Such a girl may not be at her best, but it is not cheating.

It has also been suggested the girls are not able to reflect or understand their behaviour. I disagree. Girls in the clubs are generally extremely bright and quick witted, if lacking often in a high level of formal education. Enquire a little into their minds and you will see. It is a disservice to them to underestimate them

And having horrible customers doesn't excuse fraud. If a customer is horrible the girl can and should complain about him to other girls, and even the front desk.Her good reputation, and number of regular customers, will then grow rather than decline through dishonesty.

I have been in contact with this one girl and we will finally meet up outside the club. She will come and spend time with me without charging even when I offer to compensate her for her missing work. I plan to give her some money when we part ways. What is a reasonable amount? I don't want to be a cheapskate but I prefer not to be paying a ridiculous amount you guys are paying neither.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;1937279]On first time I came to pretty Karin, she introduced herself as coming from Valencia, I answered: I don t like Spanish girls, which is not true, then she said: I was born in Romania, so I answered: You are pretty like a Romanian woman, we smiled and went for a great room.

Isabella introduced herself as Italian, I knew she lied because with Laura they said they were sisters and didn't speak in Italian, I said to her: I like You how You are and now she tells me about her holidays in Romania.

Many lie because they know many guys don t like Romanian girls, thinking they will steal them, but if they look what they look like in mirror, they should understand these poor Romanian girls wouldn't even give them a look in the street.[/QUOTE]Well for me, I will tell them that it is a shame because I am Biology and Geography professor from Bucharest born in Brusov LOL.

[QUOTE=Optimist;1937338]There is a debate under the Oase thread about whether a girl who cheats should be accepted because maybe she has a bad day or money problems. It has also been suggested that the customer is responsible because he is not sufficiently supportive of the girl having a nice time.I am trying to move the discussion to this thread.

Whilst I always suggest being supportive and nice to a girl, even if they are obnoxious and / or dishonest, I would never take responsibility for her behavior. She remains responsible for her own behavior. And if it crossed a certain point I would go to the front counter as Breadman says: for example if she tells lies about me to other girls for me not falling for her fraud, or if she threatens me for not paying an exorbitant sum..[/QUOTE]I actually had good service few times after girls had bad clients actually.

Generally, I let them know I have been in this game for awhile, I am willing to for a hour with some extras though I know the prices and remain nice, but strong.

Either way, no matter what you do there are no set formula, I came across real rip off girls few times, then I finish the session, but I just fuck her so hard, no niceness anymore after she remain providing bad service, I become Pierre woodman style LOL.

But generally, if you are presentable, strong and seems know FKK game, then girls are more or less fair to you, I only came across real evil girls few times, I am not the type to ask her why you are like this because they are just like this, so I put her on her shoes and fuck her hard and never repeat her, but punish her so hard doggy style, and get ready next time I be so tuned in with my cialis and arginine with my legally tolerated green herbs to fuck them so hardcore from doggy style LOL.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1937499]I have been in contact with this one girl and we will finally meet up outside the club. She will come and spend time with me without charging even when I offer to compensate her for her missing work. I plan to give her some money when we part ways. What is a reasonable amount? I don't want to be a cheapskate but I prefer not to be paying a ridiculous amount you guys are paying neither.[/QUOTE]If sex is not involved, probably should not pay anything IMO. Why pay. You both enjoy the other's company. Perhaps you can pick up the dinner tab and pay for drinks and whatever else you do.

If sex is involved, it is probably something to negotiate beforehand. Rates, how long, what will she do and not do.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1937499]I have been in contact with this one girl and we will finally meet up outside the club. She will come and spend time with me without charging even when I offer to compensate her for her missing work. I plan to give her some money when we part ways. What is a reasonable amount? I don't want to be a cheapskate but I prefer not to be paying a ridiculous amount you guys are paying neither.[/QUOTE]Depends on how long time you spent together, what activities you engage in, and how much money she loses by skipping work to be with you. Are you taking her out on a slow day (Monday / Tuesday) or a busy day (Friday / Saturday)? Are you taking her out for just one day or multiple days in a row? Is she a popular girl who is fairly booked up all the time? Are you taking her to some activity that she genuinely enjoys or she is more or less just your companion while you are attending to an activity that you enjoy? Are you bringing her nice thoughtful wrapped gifts?

Without knowing these particulars, it is difficult to recommend specific amounts. All I can do is give you some reasonable upper and lower bounds. The FKK working girl handbook apparently instructs all FKK girls to start their asking price at 1,000 Euros per 10 hours outside the club. I personally would not pay this. I have known some top girls who even insist on being paid *more* when going outside the club than when they are inside the club. I have never paid such a rate. All the times I have taken girls outside the club, I have benefited from a sort of bulk hours discount rate.

On the upper end of the scale, if you both know each other well and sex is included, I personally would not pay more than 750 Euros per 10 hours (some regulars report paying only 500 Euros per 10 hour period of activities such as sex, dinner, sex, etc). When I take a girl from one FKK as a guest to another FKK, I typically pay 750 Euros for 10 hours of time together (including transport time from the time I pick her up until the time I drop her off). Many will probably suggest I am overpaying but you should remember that I am usually only taking girls outside the club who are typically quite popular and heavily booked. They often make that amount or more on a busy night in the club. I suspect that they only take my discounted rate because 10 hours outside the club with me (someone they know well) is easier than seeing several different guys inside the club. Plus, they get to visit another club and see how many customers and girls are working at their competition club on a given night without actually having to officially "work" there.

On the lower end of the scale if no sex is involved, 300 Euros would be a nice contribution to help her out for a 10 hour period of time together. Indeed, I have paid this for former working girls who I basically hired as local "girlfriend" tour guides of their home cities in Europe (but with no sex since I had to take some rest days between FKK weeks). One girl in Poland didn't want me to pay her but I insisted since she was struggling to make ends meet after having left the FKK biz. If the girl is sleeping over, I personally am not a fan of paying for sleep time since well, I am quite asleep during this time and why would I pay someone for sleeping? -- but that's just me.

Others will naturally pipe in with different suggestions and may argue that I am crazy -- but you asked for opinions, so I am sharing mine.