FKK Palace - Frankfurt

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006; 1224422]Occultus!

Sir, that was a wonderful series of detailed reports. I have not been to Palace since July 2010 after being a regular monger (I used to live and work in FFM) there and.

Oft times miss it terribly but your reports-and those of others on ISG-make it easier to bide the time until I get to pay a return visit to Palace. I've planned a couple of visits.

Since then but Destiny has been cruel and I've had to abandon them.

Still, I loved reading your detailed writing. Did you not go with blonde German Saskia? She was, for me at least, a dream girl. A Vision. Something like what St Paul experienced on.

The road to Damascus. And how come you didn't session with Maya either?

Thanks again for rekindling so many fond memories and creating new ones.

Just on a more mundane note-if you don't mind-how much did your total Palace marathon cost?[/QUOTE]Sybarite, thanks for reading. I too enjoy reading reports about the place when I can't get back any time soon, so I'm glad my report at least momentary sated your longings.

Unfortunately, I did not go with Saskia, and somehow I did not speak with her one on one, so I'm not sure which German blonde she is. I neglected to report that she was there Thursday, which I learned indirectly from a fellow monger in the restaurant, who had had an enjoyable session with her. I would have asked him to point her out to me, but on that day I had to leave Frankfurt early, so my time was limited. I strayed from the road to Damascus (like your image of course!) , forsook it for the road to Karlsruhe.

As for Maya, I apologize, I don't really remember her too well. What I do remember is that at the time I made her acquaintance, I had had 6 sessions already, and my mind was preoccupied with my vendetta with Joy. So I don't think I was processing the external world all too clearly.

As I discovered though, it's hard to balance the drive to session with icons on this forum and the drive to session with girls (who may not be so well known) that stir my fancy at the moment. I missed my opportunities to hook up with Czech Gina and German Kiara.

As for total costs, well, I included the individual cost of each session in the report, those can be added up, but I'll send you a PM with these details.

It will be a lot slower than now, lot's of girls go home for Christmas.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1224614]It will be a lot slower than now, lot's of girls go home for Christmas.

HB[/QUOTE]Thanks. Will it be so slow that it won't be worth the trip? I've booked a flight and hotel and could cut my losses at $150 and travel another time. But to escape from work / family obligations now is the best.

I know you don't have a crystal ball of course, but I'm wondering if it'll be so slow that I won't have any good choices at palace or the other clubs. When palace said they were open I figured "how slow could it be of they aren't closing their doors for at least Christmas." perhaps I'm wrong!

Occultus,

THanks for the reply. Sorry, I wrote Maya when I meant Martha (from Colombia I think?). Tall, brunette, supermodel body. BTW, how come you use

All these metaphors and similes from Christian theology?

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006; 1224720]Occultus,

THanks for the reply. Sorry, I wrote Maya when I meant Martha (from Colombia I think?). Tall, brunette, supermodel body. BTW, how come you use

All these metaphors and similes from Christian theology?[/QUOTE]I don't believe I met Martha from Colombia.

As for the second question, it is harder to give an exact answer. I don't know yet, because this is a recent trend in my thought. Typically, I would avoid the Christian tradition and prefer Greek paganism and / or Nietzsche. But recently the paranoia of Christianity toward the sexual, towards the wh0re, has fascinated me, as though it may actually be some twisted sort of love in disguise, a deep longing for something felt to be hellishly dangerous. And that's how I feel about the Palace and wh0ring in general: a desire, a longing, that could devour all my cash, alienate me from my family, and so on. My lust frightens me. Somewhat.

More simply, I want to conflate love carnal and divine. I really think there's a spiritual aspect to this hobby, especially with the quickened psychical transformations it affords. In a sense, to make love to a woman is to be reborn. Reincorporation into the female body through intercourse.

I don't know, I just think descriptions, such as allusions to Greek mythology, don't really capture the seriousness of what's at stake; that paganism has somehow become shallow (notwithstanding its monopoly on archetypes, such as Oedipus complex).

Baudelaire also explored Christianity in this way. For him, interest in the good for its own sake was nonexistent. He might defend ethics solely as a bulwark against the chaos of human nature (for he opposed Rousseau). But really his interest in the Christian religion was simply as a strong stimulant. He didn't really believe it, but it gave him a kick to think about the prospect of damnation. In other words, he enjoyed terror, once beauty bored him. And as an artist he had no qualms about self-delusion.

I guess the best answer is that in my madness the Palace has assumed a paradisaical character in my imagination. Is it Heaven or I am just seduced by the Wh0re of Babylon? The rational answer is neither: I'm just discharging sexual energy in a somewhat inconvenient way. But the aim of my report was not to simply describe the place, but also the subjectivity of the wanderer who has returned after a long absence.

I could go on, but it would be rather discursive. But I'd be more than happy to continue this conversation via PM.

[QUOTE=Meeps77; 1224676]Thanks. Will it be so slow that it won't be worth the trip? I've booked a flight and hotel and could cut my losses at $150 and travel another time. But to escape from work / family obligations now is the best.

I know you don't have a crystal ball of course, but I'm wondering if it'll be so slow that I won't have any good choices at palace or the other clubs. When palace said they were open I figured "how slow could it be of they aren't closing their doors for at least Christmas." perhaps I'm wrong![/QUOTE]Please do not get the impression that there will be nobody in the clubs. Yes, there are fewer girls. Definitely. But how many does one really need? Three or four good ones should do it for most of our needs. And in my experience the average session has been better during the times where relatively few girls remain behind and have not gone off for vacation.

Plus, when you go to Frankfurt during Christmas time you can go to the Römer and enjoy the Christmas-market. Pretty nice change of pace from all the club visits. (definitely no sex there, though)

[QUOTE=Euro100; 1224891]Please do not get the impression that there will be nobody in the clubs. Yes, there are fewer girls. Definitely. But how many does one really need? Three or four good ones should do it for most of our needs. And in my experience the average session has been better during the times where relatively few girls remain behind and have not gone off for vacation.

Plus, when you go to Frankfurt during Christmas time you can go to the Römer and enjoy the Christmas-market. Pretty nice change of pace from all the club visits. (definitely no sex there, though) [/QUOTE]While I can say it is the same for Palace I have for the past years always made a point to visit Artemis in the time between Christmas and New Years. The number of girls is down, this can not be denied. But the atmosphere at the club is in my opinion better than at almost any other time of the year. The girls know it will not be busy at this time and that many of the customers are regulars, the tourist numbers are down. I find them as a result way more relaxed and willing to sit and chat and tease for a time before heading to the room. As I say, I am not sure Palace is the same but I imagine it to be similar.

AM

Thanks for this input guys. On previous trips I had spent whole days at fkk's and obviously noticed a change in quantity and quality between day and night shifts. Even during day you still found what you wanted, but there wasn't as many stunners. Do you think this time of year will be slower like the day shift even in the night?

What is this Christmas market you mention?

Again, thank you. And expect my reports when I return.

[QUOTE=Meeps77; 1224918]Thanks for this input guys. On previous trips I had spent whole days at fkk's and obviously noticed a change in quantity and quality between day and night shifts. Even during day you still found what you wanted, but there wasn't as many stunners. Do you think this time of year will be slower like the day shift even in the night?

What is this Christmas market you mention?

Again, thank you. And expect my reports when I return.[/QUOTE]Forget about the Christmas time! I know that the clubs try to convince every single girl to stay there as so many of them go home for Christmas. Even the CIS girls go home for Christmas even though their Christmas start in January. No difference between daytime and nighttime shifts. Sometimes they come earlier and can go earlier, sometimes they come later and have to stay later. Rules in the clubs.

Hello, all, I'd like to say a big thanks to all for the great advice, positive and negative reviews on this forum. Because of ISG, I was able to experience and fully enjoy my first FKK club visit last week to Palace in Frankfurt. I thought I should post a review and my thoughts on the whole FKK experience, for the very minuscule 2 cents that they're worth. I've put some directions and other information for newbies who might be wondering what they can expect at the top of this post. You might want to skip it, if you're a seasoned FKK man! Apologies for the lack of names as I can't remember names very well. Perhaps the regulars would know better than I.

[U]Directions etc. [/U]

Palace is really easy to reach on the public transport system in Frankfurt. You need to get the U6 or U7 train to Industriehof. From the centre of Frankfurt, the U6/7 passes through the Haupt-wache station. This can be reached on foot from the Hauptbahnhof station or Willy Brandt Plaza (where the European Central Bank is) fairly easily. A one-way ticket from anywhere in Frankfurt to Palace is €2. 40 with changes, just make sure you select the number 50 from the ticket machines to get this ticket. When you get to industriehof (the first stop as the train ascends from the tunnel) , cross over to the left side of the platform and then continue across the busy road. There is a curtain wall going the length of the road, go through the gap in the wall and continue straight alongside the office buildings there. When you cross over the roundabout, Palace is on the left, about 150m from the station.

For any newbies who might be wondering, Palace is very foreigner friendly and the staff speak excellent English. When you pay your €75 entry fee, they give you a coded wrist band that you can pay for booze with, a bath robe and locker key for the changing room and small valuables locker. Your slippers will be inside your locker and there are clean towels available throughout the club. The only thing you should probably pack for your day is a toothbrush, toothpaste and whatever toiletries you need as only basic body wash is available in the shower room.

[U]The report. [/U]

On a cold Thursday, with jet lag from the long flight from Tokyo clouding my head, I finally got to try the infamous Palace, have some relaxation and rid my FKK virginity. Life is indeed good. I had heard all the good and bad stories, and whilst many had suggested Oase or Mainhattan, the reputation of Palace as a home of the best, if somewhat sharky girls swayed me. As I had only one day to visit Palace, I started my visit early; waltzing through the front doors at a rather prompt eleven in the morning with a fat beaming grin on my face. A top tip to the business traveller, the locker I had in Palace was very small, and I had to balance my clothes and small shoulder bag in a rather precarious pile, which invariably toppled out of the locker whenever I opened it. Forget taking a case there or any other big bag. After a shower and tying on my rather fetching bathrobe, I made my grand entrance onto the main floor which was.

Dead. Well, it was a Thursday before lunch, so what did I expect? There were less than 10 guys there and about as many girls, definitely not enough to fill up the rather spacious club. However, as time passed, more and more girls arrived and there was always a ratio of more than one girl to each guy. Let me say that the experience of being around so many beautiful naked women (who will fuck you) walking around for 5-6 hours is something every man should experience! I still can't get over how amazing it is. The girls themselves ranged from the acceptable / adequate to the downright gorgeous. There were different ethnicities and types of girl, but blonde Europeans dominated. Some ISG guys wonder if the girls are all naked, and to answer this question I would say that they were all in 'various states of undress'. Around half of the girls had some kind of stocking or corset and the rest were naked, save for the stripper heels. All the girls had their tits and pussies on open display at all times; heaven! Whilst some had too many tattoos for my liking, there were certainly no girls there I would not be able to fuck, which was good enough for me.

[U]Round 1:[/U]

Following advice from the forum, I avoided the Sharks hanging around the entrance through polite excuses and smiles. One blonde girl trying to pick me up called me "Darrling." every time she saw me in a horrible accent which made her sound like a Russian drag queen, and put me off her for the whole visit. Another heavily tattooed German girl kept threatening to 'kidnap' me, take me to a room, and fuck me silly which had a more threatening than erotic overtone. Once you have turned down a couple of them, you're generally safe. After a relaxing sauna and shower, I had a cigarette in the smoking lounge and looked for my first girl. If you are a smoker, the lounge is the definite pick up point for the girls, as you can hang out with the girls as they relax without too much pressure to get a-screwing. As I was walking past the computer near the rooms, I caught the eye of a beautiful curvy brunette checking her mail. We got chatting and she was a Columbian girl (Carol?) , with luscious eyes, gorgeous tits and poor English. After she grew increasingly bemused at my awful attempts at speaking schoolboy Spanish, she opted to start kissing me as we stood in the corridor instead, which was far more pleasurable. We took a room nearby; had great deep kissing followed by hand job and a nice slow BBBJ. I went down on her for a while to return the favour, I strapped up and we had some decent sex in a few positions. At the locker, I paid the rather paltry €50 to her, had another kiss and we parted. No up-selling, and no high pressure tactics. Now where are these sharky girls I've heard about?

[U]Round 2:[/U]

After round one, I took a stroll round the club. The restaurant was kind of disappointing. As a cheap motel buffet type place it does the job I suppose. Watching the girls walk in and eat naked was probably the highlight for me, to whoever designed the FKK club idea, I salute you. I left me wondering. Is it good or bad form to try and pick up girls who are eating their lunch? Answers on a postcard. I went into the infamous kino (cinema) , saw an old man spread-eagled on the cushions getting vigorously sucked off by the woman with the drag queen voice, and promptly walked out. Instead I went to the massage room at the back and had a nice (though not very powerful) massage from a rather stern looking German lady in her forties. Another tip, bring your money to the massage room as you have to pay in cash. I had to take the stern lady to the lockers to pay her, which made it look to everyone else like I had just had a session with her. Ugh!

By now, I was relaxed and ready for round 2. There were now many girls to choose from, and every gent really was spoiled for choice. At a whim, I said Hello, to a short Hungarian blonde girl who walked into the club to start her shift. She had gorgeous tits and a fairly cute face on a definite spinner body. We had a chat on the sofa then onto a room. She wasn't into kissing or DATY, and it was much more businesslike, but to be honest, I didn't mind. She had the smoothest, most wonderful body to kiss and touch, she gave great head and had a really tight snatch. I couldn't fuck her for long as she felt so good and I finished rapidly and lay breathless in FKK bliss. At the lockers, it was a straight up €50. The only up-sell she tried in the room was to ask if I wanted CIM for an extra €50, but I really wanted to go for her pussy so I declined.

[U]Round 3: [/U]

At some point, the FKK "kid in a sweet shop" feeling gets a bit too much and you need to withdraw. There are some loungers in a darkened alcove near the whirlpool where you can sleep and where nobody will disturb you. I had thought about reading a bit of my novel in there but it's too damn dark in Palace. After a sauna and then a heavenly nap wrapped in my robe, I returned to a club now rapidly filling with girls and patrons. Probably more than 30 of each. There were many more Eastern European stunners to choose from. One Hungarian girl in a pink corset was just so gorgeous, lying with her legs spread on the sofa that I had to take her. We chatted in English for a bit then off to a room for a decent session. There was only light kissing and just BBBJ and straight up sex. Whilst it wasn't the best experience, she was just so beautiful to watch bouncing up and down on me, I couldn't resist. Again, I parted with €50 at the lockers and it was time to think about leaving.

[U]Round 4:[/U]

I was having one last cigarette in the lounge before I was to leave when a very tall Polish girl who towered over me (I'm 172cm) came to chat to me. She was frankly a bit kooky and I doubted my stamina to continue; but since I wouldn't return for a while, what the hell? We went to a room and by now I was running out of steam. She was very business-like, somewhat aggressive and only gave CBJ, with some rather unconvincing porn star moans as we fucked. I was inclined to leave, but she wanted me to cum, so I thought of England and got on with pounding her until I finished. Again, only €50 was needed. When I asked her "what time do you finish today?" she said "When I've filled my purse with lots of money". Classy lady.

[U]Conclusion. [/U]

I can't wait to get back to Germany for my next taste of the FKK life. The FKK experience was great, and Palace was the perfect place for anyone's first taste. Whilst there were mostly Eastern European girls, the client base was like the United Nations. I saw Americans, Europeans, Indians and Japanese there, all having a great time. The club is a great place to unwind after a hard day, with all the amenities you'd want. The girls (save the Columbian) were businesslike and gave a lot less GFE compared to the girls in Tokyo, but if you can accept it for what it is, you'll have fun. In retrospect, there were many things I'd have done differently. I'd probably go to Palace a little later (after 3pm). Next time, I'll chat to the girls I like as soon as I see them and not wait, a classic mistake. I'd also chat for longer and try to build a bit of chemistry before going to the room. Finally, I probably should've paid extra and tried for better service, a threesome or anal or something off the regular menu. I mean, why not?

Happy hunting guys.

[QUOTE=Basementcello;1225023]After round one, I took a stroll round the club. The restaurant was kind of disappointing. As a cheap motel buffet type place it does the job I suppose. Watching the girls walk in and eat naked was probably the highlight for me, to whoever designed the FKK club idea, I salute you. I left me wondering. Is it good or bad form to try and pick up girls who are eating their lunch?[/QUOTE]Really enjoyed reading your report, glad you also had a great experience.

I also enjoyed ogling the girls in the restaurant, thanks especially to the bright lighting. As for picking them up in the restaurant, in my experience, the only bad form would be to expect a session with certainty (I mean to exude this attitude) , even though that's the way the club works. Although chatting with the girl is fine, if she appears receptive, for some reason good form seemed to permit at most the suggestion of a session (or better yet a chat in the bar) later. And certainly not immediately. Sometimes if you seem too adamant, the girl assumes you want a session immediately, in which case you'll come off as pushy. Technically this is her break from work, and one should at least acknowledge that.

[QUOTE=Meeps77;1224676]I know you don't have a crystal ball of course, but I'm wondering if it'll be so slow that I won't have any good choices at palace or the other clubs. When palace said they were open I figured "how slow could it be of they aren't closing their doors for at least Christmas." perhaps I'm wrong![/QUOTE]Some girls told me they'll stay and work, others will go home. As you said. No crystal ball. Palace will be closed on 24 and 31, but if they say they are open they will be.

HB

[QUOTE=Basementcello;1225023]The restaurant was kind of disappointing. As a cheap motel buffet type place it does the job I suppose.[/QUOTE]If you find Palace's restaurant disappointing. Go to Oase.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1225194]Palace will be closed on 24 and 31, but if they say they are open they will be.

HB[/QUOTE]I asked what days around Christmas and new years they are closed, and they responded "Hello,

We are closed on 31. 12. Only.

Best regards,

Palace-team"

I hope they aren't closed on the 24th, as I only have 6 days in frankfurt and that is the first one! I send another email re-clarifying. If they are in fact closed, is anyplace else open or am I going to have to try the RDL for the first time?

I have been at Palace a few times and I am always looking forward to my next visit. When I visit one recurring thought I have is that if I were a multimillionaire I would probably live there. Maybe that is hoping too much; maybe I would get tired, but I would definitely be a very regular regular. I recently saw from photos of Zuckerberg and his girlfriend. Odd! I guess differnt men have different tastes and desires.

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