Angeles City

Phil Star dead-tree edition this morning had a story this morning about another AC expat murder yesterday.

Hope it was no one we know here.

[QUOTE=Mongrinastrlnd]Phil Star dead-tree edition this morning had a story this morning about another AC expat murder yesterday.

Hope it was no one we know here.[/QUOTE]

here the link:

[url]http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=613470&publicationSubCategoryId=67[/url]

Looks like a hit to me. Same as the German expat killed infront of Shangri la/Penin? some month ago.
Obviously they did something wrong, because usually you dont get just shot when you live in the Philippines.

At the end of the year you can always read some statistics in the Sun/bulletin about how many foreigners died and what was the cause.

They either commit suicide, get killed from their wife or wifes ex bf/hubby. etc.
So be careful to who you get married and what you do and be sure you dont do networking with the wrong people.

Philippines is wild wild west.

Blink

I'm in Angeles City right now and thought I'd post a quick report.

To start, I must say that this is not the best time to come to Angeles, what with the raids going on and all. I would say if you are planning to come here in the next couple of weeks, to maybe change your travel plans. A few bars have been raided by the police, and as of last night, Camelot bar was still closed, as I walked right by it. I'm not sure about the other two bars, I didn't walk by them, but I'm assuming they're still closed as well.

Also, some bars are not allowing the girls to wear bikinis; so they are dancing on stage in street clothes! Incredibly lame, if you ask me. And my fucklets (more on them later) have told me that their bars are not allowing new customers to barfine, only "regular" customers. I cannot confirm this, as I haven't paid a barfine since last week, but I did go to Dr. Holms bar last Friday to see Fucklet #2 and all the girls were wearing street clothes.

As the poster below mentioned, an American was murdered yesterday, but I don't know the details. A lot of shady fucks on the streets here, so be careful.

Let's see, what else...the exchange rate for the US dollar sucks right now. Just today at SM mall, the rate was 43.90 PHP-$1 USD. I'm also getting hit with a 150 peso fee everytime I withdraw money from an ATM here; as Fucklet #2 would say "that's fucking boolsheet!". And is it just me, or has the price of hotels here skyrocketed?!? I'm paying almost double of what I paid last year, and that's for the monthly rate. The hotel choices in this town really suck.

Peanuts bar out on Perimeter went out of business. Don't know the details of what happened, but a lot of the girls that used to work there have migrated to a new bar called T&A, close to Honey Ko's. That's where I found Fucklet #1, a nice, childless 22 year old. Barfines here are only 1100 pesos, not bad. No stunners, but some cuties well worth the barfine, that is if they'll let you barfine.

Went to Dollhouse and Atlantis last night with Fucklet #1, looking for Fucklet #3. I'll include some pics below. Tons of Koreans, and they seem to be more interested in popping balloons, throwing ping pong balls and smoking rather than banging chicks; I swear, I think I was the only guy in there last night that was actually into pussy. That's the "new AC" I guess.

I like A173, she's my kinda girl. But Fucklet #1 prefers the lighter skinned chicks. What do you guys think?

this is eye witness report from a waitress i know in dirty duck.
a philippino man came in to the bar approx 9 pm. he was drinking big and buying all girls ld. my friend's friend was the waitress for this man. he was sent there by the police as undercover man. since he was buying drinks to all and ringing the bell few times the bar manager thought he was some loaded guy enjoying himself. this guy knew very well that he does not have to pay the bar bill. it seems many other patrons at the time of the raid got lucky also and did not have to pay the tab. all the customers were let out.
the raid took place around midnight. three bars were targeted. dirty duck, camelot and forbidden city.
as soon as the police van came news spread and many of the girls and mamasans escaped via the back door. my friend also escaped. less fortunate is her friend who served this undercover man. she is still in jail in clark for 6 days now. all the remaining employees and the manager were arrested and still in jail.
there were three **** girls in dirty duck. almost 90% of the girls had fake i.d. my friend has a fake i.d also which she showed me last time. my friend says very few girls work in ac with their real names. so beware!
my friend says this is why they arrest and take everybody to ascertain their real info and make sure they are not **** or find out who brought in which **** girl etc. bottom line is all this is a farce for extortion.
if 6 million is coughed up the ar will open in a couple of days. she said negotiations are continuing.
now she is afraid and said many girls will think twice about coming to ac because of all the publicity. many of these girls families do not know they work as bargirls.
so i think atleast for the moment you will not see many new young girls coming in till everything settles down.

[quote=sammon]this is eye witness report from a waitress i know in dirty duck.

a philippino man came in to the bar approx 9 pm. he was drinking big and buying all girls ld. my friend's friend was the waitress for this man. he was sent there by the police as undercover man. since he was buying drinks to all and ringing the bell few times the bar manager thought he was some loaded guy enjoying himself. this guy knew very well that he does not have to pay the bar bill. it seems many other patrons at the time of the raid got lucky also and did not have to pay the tab. all the customers were let out.

the raid took place around midnight. three bars were targeted. dirty duck, camelot and forbidden city.

as soon as the police van came news spread and many of the girls and mamasans escaped via the back door. my friend also escaped. less fortunate is her friend who served this undercover man. she is still in jail in clark for 6 days now. all the remaining employees and the manager were arrested and still in jail.

there were three **** girls in dirty duck. almost 90% of the girls had fake i. d. my friend has a fake i. the also which she showed me last time. my friend says very few girls work in ac with their real names. so beware!

my friend says this is why they arrest and take everybody to ascertain their real info and make sure they are not **** or find out who brought in which **** girl etc. bottom line is all this is a farce for extortion.

if 6 million is coughed up the ar will open in a couple of days. she said negotiations are continuing.

now she is afraid and said many girls will think twice about coming to ac because of all the publicity. many of these girls families do not know they work as bargirls.

so i think atleast for the moment you will not see many new young girls coming in till everything settles down.[/quote]well i would say the owners and mammasan deserve to be there if they indeed had **** girls and a bunch of other girls with fake ids. in any other country the bar would be permenantly shut down and the bar owner convicted and sent to prison. so to me mngmnt are getting off lightly. now the girls. well if they had fake ids. they have to deal with the consequences of their actions.

While the subject of raids is going on. My wingmen and I had the hardest time getting girls to come with us from the bars last night. Every time we would ask about the barfine they would bullshit us around by jacking up the price exorbitantly or completely ignoring us. The first bar this happened in was The Golden Garter. We finally left there and went to The Owl's Nest. The same thing was happening. In that bar, however, I didn't see anything to my liking. So I went outside to see what else I could get into. I went over to Voodoo because I had overheard a guy mentioning it earlier while I was in the street. Still I did not see anything that I liked.

As soon as I exited Voodoo I saw a group of girls walking down the street. Immediately one stuck out as my type and I called her over. She was absolutely perfect for me. Her friends continued down the street. I talked with her a few minutes then we went inside The Owl's Nest. When one wingman saw the girl that I had he decided to leave out and find one of his own. Another wingman then was able to talk to one of the bargirls and pay a 1500 peso barfine to take her out. The other wingman left alone.

We went down to 7-11 to buy drinks so we could celebrate in the room. When we got back to the room discussions ensued. The girl from the bar said that the reason nobody would go with us was because they thought we were some kind of joint task force of cops. I still don't get it. But this is apparently because 3 of us are Black American and 1 is Filipino American. So every time we approached people my Filipino wingman conversed with them in Tagalog. They thought it was very strange that such a combination of wingmen would exist so it was very fishy to them and they would not cooperate with us.

During our party I happened to look out of the door and saw my wingman who had struck out on his own. He said that he had just finished with one whom he paid 500 pesos for 1 hour and was on his way to look for another. So far so good in Angeles. I will report on my FL later. It is 7 in the morning and she keeps massaging me and putting her arms around me while I am trying to type this report so I have to keep flipping to the news page online so she won't see this site.

What happened to the patrons? anything?

Im guessing they just check there passports and let them go?

Let me know,

Aj

[quote=mr enternational]while the subject of raids is going on. my wingmen and i had the hardest time getting girls to come with us from the bars last night. every time we would ask about the barfine they would bullshit us around by jacking up the price exorbitantly or completely ignoring us. the first bar this happened in was the golden garter. we finally left there and went to the owl's nest. the same thing was happening. in that bar, however, i didn't see anything to my liking. so i went outside to see what else i could get into. i went over to voodoo because i had overheard a guy mentioning it earlier while i was in the street. still i did not see anything that i liked.

as soon as i exited voodoo i saw a group of girls walking down the street. immediately one stuck out as my type and i called her over. she was absolutely perfect for me. her friends continued down the street. i talked with her a few minutes then we went inside the owl's nest. when one wingman saw the girl that i had he decided to leave out and find one of his own. another wingman then was able to talk to one of the bargirls and pay a 1500 peso barfine to take her out. the other wingman left alone.

we went down to 7-11 to buy drinks so we could celebrate in the room. when we got back to the room discussions ensued. the girl from the bar said that the reason nobody would go with us was because they thought we were some kind of joint task force of cops. i still don't get it. but this is apparently because 3 of us are black american and 1 is filipino american. so every time we approached people my filipino wingman conversed with them in tagalog. they thought it was very strange that such a combination of wingmen would exist so it was very fishy to them and they would not cooperate with us.

during our party i happened to look out of the door and saw my wingman who had struck out on his own. he said that he had just finished with one whom he paid 500 pesos for 1 hour and was on his way to look for another. so far so good in angeles. i will report on my fl later. it is 7 in the morning and she keeps massaging me and putting her arms around me while i am trying to type this report so i have to keep flipping to the news page online so she won't see this site.[/quote]

the bars are being set up by foreigners, posing as customers. these police assets generally have gotten into some type of trouble with the locals and turned to help in the set up of bars.

you go into a bar, they don't know you, one in your party is speaking tagalog and looks filipino, and ask about barfines. i can't imagine you getting anywhere with any girl or bar on the strip at the moment. no bar will accomodate you, and be surprised if any girl would go with you. as you pointed out, you might be able to pick up on the street, but also understand that any bar that had even a question about a girl's age, has turned her out. even if the bar had the girl fully licensed, but the girl knew she used fake identification, the girl has left the bar. so the streets are full of **** girls looking to make money. free lance on the street may appear safe given the numbers of girls, but there are undercover police and informants all over the streets at the moment.

the bars under the lewis grand group have basically announced all their girls are available for free lance. they will not even discuss barfines, early work release or special ladies drinks. but again, very few girls would go with your group, particularly with your having a filipino with you.

assuming you guys are legitimate, as you sound to be. your best bet is to go out with a known person (say a known papasan, someone from your hotel, mamasan, etc), that can tell the bar you are ok. once the bar knows that, your life will be easier. just have to appreciate a 1500 peso bar fine is not worth the 600,000 to 1 million plus peso being extorted from bars that are raided. the girls are not going to risk days and weeks in jail for the same.

some bars are allowing girls to stop duty if they fill a drink quota, which is generally the same cost as a bf. any arrangements you make with the girl are between you and her. i've seen some guys stand on principle, vocalize their displeasure to the bar staff about their not getting what they want, as they want it. your spitting into the wind on that. they would sooner see you leave the bar, than agree to your demands. they have no choice, there are undercover police and police assets going into every bar along perimeter and fields. insist on paying a barfine, ewr, make it obvious you are paying for sex, no matter how the transaction is to be constructed, and you will meet with a stone wall.

angeles is not operating as many of you are use to it operating. if this continues, it won't be operating at all. most bars can't get their girls to come in, many girls have taken a "vacation" to the provinces. first word of a raid on the street, many of the bars just shut their doors. after the events of last week, i would expect one more raid to eventuate in all the bars shutting their doors for the night and maybe the next day or more.

right now, i would not book a trip to angeles. unless of course you cherish the prospect of having an m16 shoved in your face and the possibility of buying your way out of jail. general opinion here is that these raids are not over yet, more to come. even if you are not caught up in a raid, you may find a night that ends early, or several evenings with a very limited selection of girls in the bars. the bars are already way down on girls, because they refuse to work.

Thanks for the information, Matius. Sad to hear about such a change.

Thank god I've enjoyed AC so many times before this downturn..... :p
RIP, good old AC. :(

thank you, brothers for all the valuable reports and information.

i am right now in ac. i had booked my trip just before the raids happened, and there was no time to cancel. now, in very brief and in addition to what has been reported already.

the fact is that as of september 20, camelot, forbidden city, and dirty duck are closed and sealed by the police. most of the other bars are open and serve the customers. however, there are very few customers only. it happened more than once to me that i was the only guy in a bar.

the selection of girls is not to the standard i am used to in ac. i am afraid the prettier ones fled the city, while the average and ugly ones stayed. there are some exceptions, though, and you just need to search longer for the right catch.

i have taken out only 2 so far, but there was no problem at all. the ewr is as before. perhaps this is because i am european and look so harmless...

in some bars, the girls wear street clothes, in others they are still (or again...) in bikinis. some are reluctant, though, to flash their tits or pussy - things which were "normal" in the old days. but i also found others in various bars who have no hesitation and show you all their assets.

i am not sure how this will continue and whether or not this is the beginning of a permanent change in ac. knowing some other places and countries, i doubt that this is the end of ac. too much money is involved. and where there is demand there is supply. perhaps the system will change once from the ewr to a more direct negotiation and transaction with the girl. if that would be the case, the bars were at clearly lower exposure.

and when it comes to ****, of course, this is not ok at all. when i pick one from a bar, i also want to be certain that she is no ****. otherwise, i might be in deep problems. therefore, i am also quite reluctant to pick a fl from the street, even though there are many and some of them are gorgeous. as long as i am not absolutely sure she is above 20, it is a no go.

i am also not sure whether or not there will be other raids. i guess the chances are 50:50. one one hand, the recent ones look as a very targetted action against some identified bars. on the other hand, in order to enforce "respect and law", some repeated "instruction" might be used. but this could take some time in between as well. since all the other bars are now very careful, it is not so likely that a second raid would be "successful" again.

i plan to stay for a few more days and will decide then whether or not i take my own "ewr" from ac, depending on the development of the situation. meanwhile, i keep you posted if there are any news.


wonderer


and for senior members who would like to know in which bars i had no problem with the ewr, please pm me. i don't want to post it in the forum - otherwise it might be too easy for the le.

While the business is no good in AC, at least the situation with the ATMs seems to improve. I just found a new machine in a convenient location near the "Mini Stop 24 hours" shop, next to the MediaSpa, i.e. after the Margarita Station when you walk from Fields towards Perimeter. It is on the left hand side, in an entrance. It worked fine for me, while the one in the ABC hotel does not recognize my Maestro Card.

The bad news in the good news: the transaction charge is 150 PHP.

Wonderer

Is there some sort of cartel amongst the bars in AC? I was just in front of La Pasha for about 40 minutes or so. There were about 13 girls standing outside shooting the shit and horse playing. At 6:15pm a lot of old ladies (about 30 or so) started coming out of the bar and going in different directions. It was like they were leaving a meeting or something. Then the girls who were in front were allowed to go in.

My first post with a problem. Made a very big mistake and sent twice some money via Western Union to a pregnant bargirl just to help her. I felt so pity for the girl. Now she is demanding more, otherwise she will inform my family about the previous transfers! Although I did not tell her my surname or my home address I am wondering if she could trace back these details with the Western Union people in Angeles. I am getting nervous and wonder if that would be really possible, or is there any privacy policy at Western Union I can rely on? Has anybody some information about that?

[QUOTE=Matius]The bars are being set up by foreigners, posing as customers. These police assets generally have gotten into some type of trouble with the locals and turned to help in the set up of bars.

Insist on paying a barfine, EWR, make it obvious you are paying for sex, no matter how the transaction is to be constructed, and you will meet with a stone wall.[/QUOTE]Exactly. What many of the girls were telling us is that they can only go barhopping with us if we paid the bar fine, but they could not go back to our hotel. We were like what the hell. If I only wanted to drink I would not need to pay you 1500 pesos to come with me. I could do that without you.

My friend said that the mamasan in The Owl's Nest really started to stonewall about the bar fine when I came in with the FL. He said that she asked who the girl was. She thought she may have been a police officer. She finally gave in and accepted the bar fine of 1500 pesos.

By the way. This was the deal from last night. Before bar fining, my wingman asked the girl how much she actually got from the 1500. She told him that she gets 1000 and the bar keeps 500. He asks her why doesn't she just come over when she finishes work and then she could keep the whole amount. She told him that she made a promise to herself (maybe the bar as well) that she would not do that.

He finally kicked her out about 10:30a.m. after we called him to come to lunch. No tip given and no tip asked for. No complaints from either party about anything. Only mutual praises judging from seeing her and talking to him this morning. He said that they would have still been in the room if we would not have called him.

[QUOTE=Wonderer]I am not sure how this will continue and whether or not this is the beginning of a permanent change in AC.[/QUOTE]
From what I understand, the mayor has been away visiting the U.S.