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[QUOTE=Captain Pi]Is it ok to decline and walk if the none of the girls appeal to me or the price is too high?[/QUOTE]You are completely within your rights to walk away if the shop doesn't show you someone you are interested in for the price they are charging.Until you hand over the cash you are under no obligation. Keep your wallet in your pocket until you are sure you want to continue.ES

Nothing to panic about, just a mild warning. There are some independent broker-type guys called Ponbiki standing around in Yoshiwara, you should steer clear of. These guys will walk around and try to pull in customers to soap shops and make a commission from the customer, so you get charged an extra fee. I haven't heard of these guys approaching foreigners, but they do exist, so wanted everyone to know about them.Going directly to the soap shops is the best bet. I sometimes visited the 60, 000 yen places, but my policy nowadays is like yours, 30, 000 yen or 35, 000 yen, and you can get 90 mins. To 110 mins. I have an okay shop that I go to, but they require that you are accompanied with a Japanese when you visit, so I can't suggest that one to you if you are solo.[QUOTE=Captain Pi]I'm heading on my 4th trip to Japan soon and I've used the soaplands in Yoshiwara a couple times. Last time I was there was in 2005. IIRC, I paid 30000 or 35000 yen.I'm an American born Chinese so I'm obviously gaijin and can't speak Japanese. In the past, I've either walked around Yoshiwara after getting off from Minowa station or another one near there just asking if they accepted foreigners. Another time, I remember having a cabbie take me from the Metro station and he dropped me off at a soap that accepted foreigners.I know my selection is really limited. Each time, only a very small # of photos have been brought out (<10). Is it ok to decline and walk if the none of the girls appeal to me or the price is too high? I've so far never done that. I'd like to not go over 35, 000 per session. It seems I can get a better price if I go in the morning/day. But would that mean my selection is even more limited? I'm only interested in CFS w/CBJ (for safety's sake) and I do like the mat play a lot. I also like how service oriented the girls have been even if the ones I've been given haven't been hot.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Yamato1]Nothing to panic about, just a mild warning. There are some independent broker-type guys called Ponbiki standing around in Yoshiwara, you should steer clear of. These guys will walk around and try to pull in customers to soap shops and make a commission from the customer, so you get charged an extra fee. I haven't heard of these guys approaching foreigners, but they do exist, so wanted everyone to know about them.Going directly to the soap shops is the best bet. [/QUOTE]Thanks.I remember a lot of touts in Kabukicho but my memory of what's in front of soaps in Yoshiwara is foggy.How can I tell the difference between a Ponbiki and a tout working for a soap? Ignore that guy and just go up to the door?Since I'm Chinese, I look totally Asian and it seems that everyone tries to speak Japanese to me even though I don't understand it.

CBJ is sometimes tricky unless you communicate this well before the play starts. Sometimes she will start in very quickly, even during the wash down. If you come in very clean she may start in on it while you're getting undressed. Personally, I find this very nice but if you want it covered, just say "condom" and she should get the message.[QUOTE=Captain Pi]I'm heading on my 4th trip to Japan soon and I've used the soaplands in Yoshiwara a couple times. Last time I was there was in 2005. IIRC, I paid 30000 or 35000 yen.I'm an American born Chinese so I'm obviously gaijin and can't speak Japanese. In the past, I've either walked around Yoshiwara after getting off from Minowa station or another one near there just asking if they accepted foreigners. Another time, I remember having a cabbie take me from the Metro station and he dropped me off at a soap that accepted foreigners.I know my selection is really limited. Each time, only a very small # of photos have been brought out (<10). Is it ok to decline and walk if the none of the girls appeal to me or the price is too high? I've so far never done that. I'd like to not go over 35, 000 per session. It seems I can get a better price if I go in the morning/day. But would that mean my selection is even more limited? I'm only interested in CFS w/CBJ (for safety's sake) and I do like the mat play a lot. I also like how service oriented the girls have been even if the ones I've been given haven't been hot.[/QUOTE]

Hi guys-I'm an old time member he who just does not post much. I started coming to Japan in 2004, and due to my monthly visits, have become very familiar with the scene there. Anyways, just wanted to drop a line about Playgirls. The place has been written about countless times, but I thought I'd give an up to date account.So after arriving at the location via taxi, I immediately noticed that the building that they are in was somewhat run-down. I was courteously ushered into a waiting room and given a drink and some cigarettes. I don't smoke, so I just had an iced oolong tea. After waiting for a few minutes, I was presented with 6 photos of the available girls at the moment. Not 100% sure, but don't think it jibed with what was listed on the schedule page of their website.I ended up choosing Reo, who came down after a few minutes to guide me into our "room". Much older than her pics, she seemed to be near 30. When we arrived at the room, again I was disappointed by the run-down appearance and overall dumpiness. The place looked like it was from a 1980's movie, and everything had a sort of patina and aged look. Reo chatted with me in basic English and told me to start stripping.No BBBJ, nothing. (I had arrived immaculately clean and fresh out of the shower) After I undressed, I sat on the "Lecherous Chair" and had a very unispiring dick and body wash. After that we moved onto the mat, where she piled on the goopy stuff and began to play with me. Not a bad experience, and could tell that she was experienced in what she did. It was pretty fun, but when it got down to it, teasing, no touching her pussy, and BJ was covered. After 20 minutes of this, we started standard fucking, first asian squat, then missionary, then doggie. We moved over to this really tiny bed and I finished there.To be honest, I was so disappointed at my YEN 700, 000 experience, that I wanted to get the heck out of there asap. After laying for a while, and another half assed attempt at getting me hard, I just told her I wanted to leave and went downstairs, had another drink and left. Well, was it worth it? NO. No premium service, would have been much better served with some of the existing services offered by AM, CB, etc. I have no problem with paying $$$, but service has to be commensurate.

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You hit the nail on the head my friend. I rarely take a girl to dinner (unless fish and chips at a bar is considered dinner). If its a first date I usually take em to a bar where I know some love hotels are nearby (Kabukicho is a big favorite). Have a few drinks and say lets go for a walk, which leads us to the destination.If its not a first date and we are regular f-buddies, then just hit the convenie for a some beer/wine/shochu then off to the love hotel. Some of my older flings (women in their late 30s) will usually even split the love hotel fee. Ive gotten some nice gifts from my older ladies, they like to spoil me. One took me on a helicopter tour of Tokyo for my b-day. But like the man said, I do enjoy a pink salon now and again when I cant be bothered to entertain someone. Its a nice way to relax for less than the cost of a love hotel. [QUOTE=Nakameguro97]That's what I used to think when I first came to Tokyo. But after being here for a while, I began to notice that there are quite a few Japanese couples (where the girl is a hottie) going to MOS Burger, Ten-ya, or a ramen joint. It would be pretty tough to spend more than 3,000 yen total in such a place.OTOH, if you bring all your dates to expensive bars or restaraunts in Aoyama or Azabu-Juban, I'm sure you can match and exceed p4p. I would bet the Nampa King doesn't do this...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hot Bot]By the way, I'd rather not open another can of worms here, but I fail to see why being "only 30, good looking and having a pretty extensive black book" would hold you back from P4P. Unless you refuse to buy your dates drinks/food, you're probably paying similar cash anyway. At least the sex industry is up front about it.[/QUOTE]I rarely spend more than 10,000 on a date (including love hotel) so unless you know a place where you can score with sexy 22-27 year old Japanese girls (the average age/type of the women I take out) for that price than let me know. I certainly havent seen it. Maybe when I am like 45 and balding and I want a taste of that young flavor again that I cant get on my own anymore than I will consider kicking out some of the money many of you guys pay. Until that day comes though, I like the game Im running. And yes the sex industry is upfront, but the girl has you on a timer..is only there because you are paying, and the sex is usually missing something for me compared to when I use only my charms (and a few drinks) getting a girl to the love hotel. Not looking down on it, just for me right now the cost/benefit isnt there. In the future that may change.

[QUOTE=Tomato]Hi guys-To be honest, I was so disappointed at my YEN 700, 000 experience, ...Well, was it worth it? NO. No premium service, would have been much better served with some of the existing services offered by AM, CB, etc. I have no problem with paying $$$, but service has to be commensurate.[/QUOTE]No doubt is was only 70,000 but I sympathize in that it probably felt like a huge waste of cash.I have noticed more than a few soaps seem to be stuck in 80s-90s mode, with no renovations or upgrades. Much better to order a high class DH to a nice hotel room!

I missed something. What/where is ND?Thank you[QUOTE=Yuffei]I had a fun time in Shibuya yesterday. I had 90 mins spare and I was passing through tokyo. I called up ND to see whether Emi or Tsubaki were available, but the mamasan said that the only person who was available was Juri. Hmm well I looked at the photos and they didn't look so great, but I figured what the hell I'll have the 45min and if she were cute enough I'd switch to a 90.

I think I reported ont that one already.[url]http://www.este-feel.com/top.html[/url]1mn from Nishi-Nippori station, very easy to find. Photos are real but heavily photoshopped (like on the similar sites). Girl looks are 4, 5 /10 at best. I went 3 times.1st time I had a 2*35mn course (13, 000 yens if I remember well) with 2 different girls. Both massage + CBJ + FS.One of the girls (Yumi) seemed to like me a lot, (I was her first gaijin so she was pretty excited) so I came back another time just spend time with her.That was very enjoyable indeed and very GFE with her.3rd time I came, Yumi wasnt there, was serviced by Bani. She was chubby and not great looking and not very into it. I had difficulties to get a hard-on. Though we finally got to FS, but then she looked like a robot, and not liking it at all. That deflated my willie so I had to finish with HJ. Not a likeable experience. But for the 60mn 7, 500 (new discount) course, the bad quality of the service may have been on purpose? 1 hit / 1 miss. I don't think I'll go there anymore. And I don't think I'll try this kind of place if I don't feel that day like an animal ready to f*ck anything anyway. I've had similar problems lately alas. But for other people, its really a conveniently located, cheap and rather clean place to FS with a massage.For japanese readers, [url]www.fuzoku. Jp[/url] has plenty of DH & Este ads all over Japan. Prices in Nippori are overall cheap and the joints are 1mn from the JR or Chiyoda station which make it very convenient (for example vs Shibuya where love hotels are far from the Station)

This is a late post but this is my first opportunity to write about my experience. Decided to set up an appt after reading the ad. We agreed to meet outside of Shibuya Station. Once she arrived we walked up the hill to a love motel. Once inside the room she suggested that we both get undressed and ensured me that we had plenty of time. She started off with a back rub (which actually was pretty good) before rolling me over and starting a HJ. In the back of my mind I'm thinking when is she going to start the BJ and I kept telling her to stop each time I was about to reach my peak. I finally decided to just go ahead and let go and then she got up and led me to the shower. After I was cleaned up I noticed that she started putting her clothes back on and I asked if that was it. She said that all she gave was HJ's and apologized for the misunderstanding. After going back reading her post it does state "sensual massage". Other than that she was very friendly and encouraged me to touch her breast (which are a perky size D as advertised). I would rate her as a 7 and my overall experience as a 5, mostly because I went in expecting more than a HJ. The total damage was 20K. I would repeat only if I had an extra 20K to burn a HJ, which would is more than likely never when FS is available for less than 10K.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=Herpes]I think I reported ont that one already.[url]http://www.este-feel.com/top.html[/url][/QUOTE]How much Japanese language skill do you need for this place?

[QUOTE=Irony Monger]How much Japanese language skill do you need for this place?[/QUOTE]When you're inside none at all. The staff is korean and friendly. But on the site there is no address. You are supposed to phone them for directions. I don't have the exact address but going out from the JR station, look for the Chiyoda station exit (near the elevated highway). You cross the street towards a pachinko parlour and enter a small street going along the yamanote line. You go along it, there is another side street parallel to the main avenue, you continue forward its the building making the corner between that street and the street going along the Yamanote. Its and old building. Its on the 4th floor.

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