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[QUOTE=Ogman; 1264125]Having non-Koreans teaching one another Korean is always dangerous. However, I believe Koreans normally refer to these establishments as Dealim bars or "'friendship Bars." Most of my Korean friends say that the girls will just talkand cuddle but I have always gotten laid (quality not counted) every time. Of course, it takes a lot longer since the girls want you to reach a certain bar tab level before they will do you, but sex never seemed to be in question even without Korean language skills. Heck in a couple cases, the girl actually had some English and it ended up being like a fun drunk tutoring session.

Bikini Bars and Modern Bars are more often larger club type environments with multiple girls in a more classy well lit place. I have gone with Korean friends to those places and the goal was simply drinking and talking to a girl in a bikini. I found it odd and quietly frustrating to say the least.[/QUOTE]Hey, I really enjoyed reading your detailed posts! Thank you! For all the informations that your sharing with us! Can you please helping me how I can find these. Friendship bars. Where are they. How can I recognize them. Can you tell me about an area where I can find more of these. I live in Bundang but I'm willing to go to Seoul. I also never tried the. RLD places. But I want to go to Miari. At Gireum station. Exit 10 isn't it. Can we go there together. At least one time? . If not. Is it okay to go there late afternoon. 4-5 pm. Or should I go only after dark. I'm caucasian male, speak basic korean, enough to get arround! .

So I m asking about two things : 1. Friendship Bar (or bikini bar) system, and when is the time to go there (hours?) , what should I do once I'm inside. Etc, etc.

2. The; Miari (Gireum) , should I expect the "mamasan" to call me inside while I'm walking. What time is good to go there. And please let me know if your available to monger together, and if "yes" when are you available. And I will give you my phone number if so, but don't send me PM. I can't read them! Thanks!

One thing that I love is that most women here leave the carpet untrimmed. Maybe I have retro tastes, but I am tired of the shaved look, it's got no character or texture, to me the Bush really adds to the experience. I went to a BBS just down the street from Moran station exit three in a basement next to a noraebang the other day and got full service from a 40 something adjumma with big tits and a full Bush, pubes were very long and dark. She was a little old and not the best looking, but I loved the Bush. All was had for 70 manwon.

I am hooked. There's another bbs in kongook dae underneath a boshintang restaurant with an adjumma with a giant Bush. What's the biggest Bush you've ever seen in Korea and where?

[QUOTE=Prytania;1255745]Just finished up with the lovely Mina. The girl fucked the taste out of my mouth. I have nothing but good things to say regarding her borderline PSE performance. She knows her way around a cock. Her pussy tastes like ambrosia, and she's ok with DFK (which is good for me because there's nothing I like better than swapping her pussy juices back to her). I can honestly say that I didn't fuck Mina, she fucked me. Afterwards we shared a glass of wine and some lovely post-coital conversation. Passable English. Same rates as reported above.[/QUOTE]Where to check for a contact?

Not sure when she started (but relatively recently. Though she also reportedly worked with Young-eun 5 years ago@Starbutts, but here's hoping Jina, also self-designated as "Spicy Pussy", stays around for awhile. Room salon / anma looks@hooker hill prices. Tall, easily 5'10" in heels, long-legged and slender, but shapely, w / a nice S-line. Natural, full Bs. And best of all, very naughty, starting w / an open wantonly "fuck me" look, preceding an announcement of her intention to "swallow your cock" and plenty more dirty talk and followed by making good on her promise with both her mouth and her tight spicy pussy. Short, bobbed "Flapper"-like hair, reasonably attractive. Sexy more than pretty. And, oh, those challenging "fuck me" eyes. $$/hour.

I was taken with my experience with Jina@Drama I went back the next night for more. Alas, she wasn't working. So I decided to look around a bit. Headed up across the street for the always satisfying Soo-Ae, but she was busy; so I headed back down the street to check out the Hill proper. Near the top on the north side I spotted Yuna@Mississippi. I think the first time I saw her was 10 years ago at Young-eun's Starbutts. Yuna had just come back to Korea from Japan. She was wearing impossibly high cavalry boots and hot pants and was looking very, very good. In the intervening years, she seems to have gone thru some rough times and sometimes looked fairly ravaged. She's now older, obviously, and looks her age; but she's looking pretty good again these days. I decided to roll the dice, and walked in. Once we got the mojo underway, it was like going back 10 years. Only better. Yuna always gave good head, but her dick play skills actually have improved. So I settled in for an extended BBBJ, accompanied by some handjob action, teabagging and rimming. It was so good I decided to skip the CFS that was on offer (remembering that the first time years ago she was too tight to take more than a 1/4 of Mr Hyde) and just went for a full hour of oral power climaxing with a great CIM finish. Recommended, with the caution that she is a player and is likely to try to weadle for more than the agreed fee.

Visited a kiss-bang suggested by Supermonkey, located at Sinchon (exit 2, behind the Pizza Hut). Place definitely has spoiled since his visit. Prices: 40000/30 min and 70000/1 hour, but only kiss and light touch through clothes, and girls very average and not young (about 30–32). No "special service" existing anymore. Not recommended.

Does anyone try with coffee delivery girls in Seoul? Or the thing only works in Kwangju?

And what about freelancer college student at DVD-bangs who can go with inside for some presents which you buy with them: any positive experience?

[QUOTE=MenMyFranknstein;1268159]Not sure when she started (but relatively recently. Though she also reportedly worked with Young-eun 5 years ago@Starbutts, but here's hoping Jina, also self-designated as "Spicy Pussy", stays around for awhile. Room salon / anma looks@hooker hill prices. Tall, easily 5'10" in heels, long-legged and slender, but shapely, w / a nice S-line. Natural, full Bs. And best of all, very naughty, starting w / an open wantonly "fuck me" look, preceding an announcement of her intention to "swallow your cock" and plenty more dirty talk and followed by making good on her promise with both her mouth and her tight spicy pussy. Short, bobbed "Flapper"-like hair, reasonably attractive. Sexy more than pretty. And, oh, those challenging "fuck me" eyes. $$/hour.[/QUOTE]$$/hr is pretty standard An-ma prices for us waygooks. I thought the hill was supposed to be much cheaper.

In fact, in an An-ma you get way more than you would on the hill.

It must be a personal thing for me, but I try not to overpay based on what different services offer. If it's just a bit of BJ and FS, there's no way I would pay $$/hr, not even for hotel delivery. I'd rather go spend my 60-70k at the RLD and walk around the corner to the bar after I was finished, and spend the rest on drinks for myself.

More power to you guys who pay these prices, but I can't bring myself to do it.

[QUOTE=SG Korea; 1268515]$$/hr is pretty standard An-ma prices for us waygooks. I thought the hill was supposed to be much cheaper.

In fact, in an An-ma you get way more than you would on the hill.

It must be a personal thing for me, but I try not to overpay based on what different services offer. If it's just a bit of BJ and FS, there's no way I would pay $$/hr, not even for hotel delivery. I'd rather go spend my 60-70k at the RLD and walk around the corner to the bar after I was finished, and spend the rest on drinks for myself.

More power to you guys who pay these prices, but I can't bring myself to do it.[/QUOTE]I guess you're frequenting the low-end anmas.

Seriously, if you're spending 70K for 20 minutes for wham bam thank you m'am at an RLD cf 200k for a full hour of a semblance of GFE or PSE on the Hill. Well do the cost / benefit analysis yourself.

And yeah you get something more in an anma. The sauna. But you also get less. Minimal communication, if any, unless yoy have Korean skills. Of course, on the Hill you have to find the gems in the rough. I was trying to point one out.

In end, though, it is all about preferences, yeah.

[QUOTE=MenMyFranknstein; 1268546]I guess you're frequenting the low-end anmas.

Seriously, if you're spending 70K for 20 minutes for wham bam thank you m'am at an RLD cf 200k for a full hour of a semblance of GFE or PSE on the Hill. Well do the cost / benefit analysis yourself.

And yeah you get something more in an anma. The sauna. But you also get less. Minimal communication, if any, unless yoy have Korean skills. Of course, on the Hill you have to find the gems in the rough. I was trying to point one out.

In end, though, it is all about preferences, yeah.[/QUOTE]The cost / benefit analysis is pretty easy to figure out. 70k / 20 min easily converts to 210k / hr, but who spends an hour at the red lights? I certainly don't need an hour to handle business with a decent girl. So, I walk out of there happy and with an extra 130k in my pocket.

210k / hr+ at an An-ma, (the one I went to in Songtan at least) , you get a jacuzzi bath with face mask and shoulder rub from the girl, then table shower+cat bath, Then you handle business, then another shower, and off to the blind massage. So I spent 10k extra and got a whole hell of a lot more than you would with the hill ladies.

I personally have never visited the hill, I don't hang out in Itaewon, and after reading past reports. I see people getting ripped off on time vs services and lady drinks. Not my scene at all.

Like I said, I like to take the normal price for the most you can get, and base what I'm willing to pay off of that. From your report, while I'm not doubting you thoroughly enjoyed yourself, it just doesn't sound like my scene. For what it's worth I do speak a bit of Korean, and haven't had too much of a problem communicating with the girls. Alot of An-ma girls speak a bit of English as well, so all important points are communicated, and we have a good time together.

I'm not knocking your report at all, so don't take it personally, I'm all for sharing information such as that. I'm just pointing out that as you said. Doing a cost / benefit analysis points me in other directions.

It is what it is!

SG

Roger that! I have no interest in spending an hour in an RLD.

Either. Or 20 minutes for a more or less mechanical poke. Or a longer time in an anma for the same plus a meh rubdown. I'd rather spend 60-90 minutes of pleasure with a quality girl who provides even just a semblance of GFE / PSE. Admittedly, this is hard to find anywhere, but I've had good luck in the ville avoiding the barracuda tanks and finding what I like. Then if I want a proper sauna / massage I can just head off to a jjimjilbang. If others want to take advantage of my recommendations or not, that's up to them, especially considering the iron law of YMMV.

To each his own.

[QUOTE=SG Korea; 1268838]The cost / benefit analysis is pretty easy to figure out. 70k / 20 min easily converts to 210k / hr, but who spends an hour at the red lights? I certainly don't need an hour to handle business with a decent girl. So, I walk out of there happy and with an extra 130k in my pocket.

210k / hr+ at an An-ma, (the one I went to in Songtan at least) , you get a jacuzzi bath with face mask and shoulder rub from the girl, then table shower+cat bath, Then you handle business, then another shower, and off to the blind massage. So I spent 10k extra and got a whole hell of a lot more than you would with the hill ladies.

I personally have never visited the hill, I don't hang out in Itaewon, and after reading past reports.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MenMyFranknstein; 1268847]Roger that! I have no interest in spending an hour in an RLD.

Either. Or 20 minutes for a more or less mechanical poke. Or a longer time in an anma for the same plus a meh rubdown. I'd rather spend 60-90 minutes of pleasure with a quality girl who provides even just a semblance of GFE / PSE. Admittedly, this is hard to find anywhere, but I've had good luck in the ville avoiding the barracuda tanks and finding what I like. Then if I want a proper sauna / massage I can just head off to a jjimjilbang. If others want to take advantage of my recommendations or not, that's up to them, especially considering the iron law of YMMV.

To each his own.[/QUOTE]YMMV is so true, especially in this case. Here we have each one of us pointing out the merits of our choices (which, honestly neither are bad choices, just different strokes for different folks) , when it's painfully obvious we've both patronized similar establishments (minus me going to the hill) and have found what we like. It sounds like you haven't had good experiences in the An-mas while I have. I also haven't had a "mechanical poke" as you call it in the RLDs.

That's why I'm glad this place is here, so we can share experiences and let people base their decisions off of that.

I think this convo could go much deeper into what we SHOULD pay vs what we DO pay for certain services, but overall I feel that this has run it's course.

It is what it is!

SG

[QUOTE=MenMyFranknstein; 1268847]Roger that! I have no interest in spending an hour in an RLD.

Either. Or 20 minutes for a more or less mechanical poke. Or a longer time in an anma for the same plus a meh rubdown. I'd rather spend 60-90 minutes of pleasure with a quality girl who provides even just a semblance of GFE / PSE. Admittedly, this is hard to find anywhere, but I've had good luck in the ville avoiding the barracuda tanks and finding what I like. Then if I want a proper sauna / massage I can just head off to a jjimjilbang. If others want to take advantage of my recommendations or not, that's up to them, especially considering the iron law of YMMV.

To each his own.[/QUOTE]Could you recommend some of your favorite anma's. I'll be up in Seoul in about a week from now and would to experience it.

[QUOTE=SG Korea; 1268904]YMMV is so true, especially in this case. Here we have each one of us pointing out the merits of our choices (which, honestly neither are bad choices, just different strokes for different folks) , when it's painfully obvious we've both patronized similar establishments (minus me going to the hill) and have found what we like. It sounds like you haven't had good experiences in the An-mas while I have. I also haven't had a "mechanical poke" as you call it in the RLDs.

That's why I'm glad this place is here, so we can share experiences and let people base their decisions off of that.

I think this convo could go much deeper into what we SHOULD pay vs what we DO pay for certain services, but overall I feel that this has run it's course.

It is what it is!

SG[/QUOTE]I haven't had any bad experieces in anmas, or room salons for that matter (I speak reasonably good Korean) , I've just had much better ones with a select number of girls over the years on the Hill with whom I've been able to develop "relationships" (rolls eyes) that, in crude terms, translates into more bang for the buck and generally more satisfying sessions.

There is no such thing as a "should pay" price, except 0 of course.

[QUOTE=YG365;1268908]Could you recommend some of your favorite anma's. I'll be up in Seoul in about a week from now and would to experience it.[/QUOTE]Is this the braddah from the usasexguide Honolulu ohana?"Howzit" if so. Check out Gangnam, Plus Anma (to the left of the Novotel Ambassador as you're facing the hotel) along the main road with big neon hangul with a shiny metal clad fasade. (report 6435).

'Mo betta den anywheres in Honolulu. MEAN!

[QUOTE=YG365;1268908]Could you recommend some of your favorite anma's. I'll be up in Seoul in about a week from now and would to experience it.[/QUOTE]I think you miread my posts. I think you want to ask SG.