Chat Rooms & Pen Pals

[quote=cbea20;1383942]in this situation, the girl coming from bais or mabinay, and she absolutely insists she cannot scrape up 100 peso for the bus, i will probably drop her as a loser. but if i am very motivated, i will offer to meet the bus and pay the conductor. this arrangement has never failed. if she refuses that offer, she is scamming you to send money. she referred to her vagina? for sure she is not an innocent girl.[/quote]the girl was not able to come. she texted me around noon and said that her friend was supposed to give her the money, but she was not answering texts or her phone. i told her to tell her friend that if she loaned her 200, i would send 300 back to her. she said that was not the problem, the problem is that she can't get in touch with her. she apologized.

I met up with another DIA contact tonight. It was crazy because I tried to talk to her a month before I came, but she stopped me in my tracks. This is how it started:

Me: Hello Beautiful. I would like to know you if you have time for me.

Her: Depends on how a good conversationalist you are. Otherwise, If I get bored I cannot give you my time.

Me: And that would depend on our chemistry together. Do you have messenger or skype?

That was January 3 and I did not hear anything else from her until a couple of days ago when I arrived and sent her another message saying I was here in town and why did she forget me. Now this is an educated woman with a master's degree. She is a school teacher. So we exchanged numbers and did some texting back and forth early today while I was out diving. We started texting again later in the evening when she finished work and I was at Robinson's.

Lo and behold she was at Robinson's at the same time with two of her sisters. One just came in from out of town and is a postal worker. They are all beautiful, educated, and probably not as young as most of your guys look for. But she said she had been trying to call me but could not get through. She tried on hers and her sister's phone while we were together. That was weird because I had no problem calling her and we were texting back and forth fine. At this time it was about 7:50 pm. So I said let's run up to the Smart store before it closes to see what the problem is. The Smart lady tried to call me and everything worked fine. She said that it is some kind of glitch going on where Globe can't call Smart and another carrier can't call someone else, but Smart is able to call anyone. I walked them back out to the car then I got into a trike and came back to the hotel. (By the way, trikes here are 9 pesos damn near anywhere you go. There is none of that trike mafia rip off stuff like AC. You don't even have to ask. Just when you get where you are going you get out and hand over 9 pesos - It's kind of good being in a regular city instead of a kano rip off spot.)

No sooner than I could get in the door she was texting me asking me to come back out and join them at Hayahay (club / restaurant / bar type deal). I told her okay. I was organizing some things in my room and she kept texting me asking what is taking so long. So I finally went and they had bought pizza and pina coladas and offered me some. We sat there shooting the shit about this that and the other and they said something about going to Malaysia. I told them my cousin lived there with his wife who is from there. We video skyped him from my cell phone. He was jealous that I was out having fun with three beautiful women.

The two sisters wanted me to find men for them, because they found out their men were cheating on them and so went the relationships. Mine said she broke up with her husband for irreconcilable differences. So I kept trying to touch on her and kiss on her but she was thwarting my advances. Then she explained that she is very well known in the city and for her job she had to sign a contract to uphold moral standards. So if someone saw her and said something it could mean the end of her career. (I heard the same thing from a Manila police chief who my cousin was hooking up with when she visited her best friend (my Pinay side piece) in Thailand.) I told her that I understood that and I definitely could not take care of her. They paid the bill and left, but I told them I was staying. (The bill was 650. I added it up myself, because neither them nor the waitress could make out the writing. Then I carefully watched the visiting sister pay a 500, a 100, and a 50; NO TIP for you big spenders / tippers.)

After they were clearly gone I caught a trike to Why Not? (pick up disco) and took a girl for ST (220 for room and gave girl 780). While I was fucking I got a text from her but didn't answer it until I was back in the hotel. She called me on the land line and we talked for a while. I admitted (lied) to her that I had came straight to the hotel after they left, but I told her I would stay at the bar in order to make her jealous. She said it worked. She said she really likes me and she would be all touchy feely if she was in another city with me. I told her I understood about the job thing. She said that her parents never allowed her to have a boyfriend until she finished college. She finished college at 20 and still didn't get her first boyfriend until 26 because she was busy working, and was married at 28.

I invited her to come stay with me in Thailand. She said she would be able to come in May because elections are in April and they are required to work the polls. This is a good girl and I wish I had time to get to know her more. I'm out of here tomorrow on the 12:30 flight back to Manila and bus to Angeles, but she does not know it. Whenever someone asks me how long I am staying somewhere I always ask them how long they want me to stay. I never give a definite answer. I guess I'll make up something to tell her when I'm on the way to the airport tomorrow.

[QUOTE=Sammon; 1383990]I would suggest not to hire a PI to investigate. I do not know which country you are from but whatever happened in her or your life before is better laid to rest. Once you meet her you will know if you two are good for each other and go from there. If things get serious she herself will open up about her life just like you will too. You do not want a PI to go to her and try to extort money from her to give you a good report. These things happen in Phi.

I am sure she would have had Phi boyfriends. If you are insisting on a virgin maybe a trip to the doctor is a good idea.

It is too early to think about background check.[/QUOTE]Wow! That is very, very sound advice indeed. I never thought such a thing would or could happen but it does make sense. In any case, I don't care if she is a virgin. I even hope she really isn't but I am intrigued in any case. Thanks for the advice! I am sure it might be useful for others as well as me.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1384065]I met up with another DIA contact tonight. It was crazy because I tried to talk to her a month before I came, but she stopped me in my tracks. This is how it started:[/QUOTE]Great story. This is another one of those scenarios that could happen only in the Philippines. Hope we get a follow-up report after Thailand.

You certainly meet all kinds through DIA. I chatted about 3 months with a young lady who I took to be a party girl. She enjoys showing off her big heavy Cs with a push up bra, has tats, chain smokes, and drinks to excess several times a week. She has a toddler back in the province living with her mama. We developed some real friendship and trust. Finally she told me her story. She had sex exactly once in her life. She was completely wasted and has no memory of the act except that it hurt like hell. A few weeks later she found out she was pregnant. She has had a complete phobia about sex ever since. For her it meant only pain and pregnancy. She's a hot girl and gets approached constantly by foreigners, but she rebuffs them all. Her friends laugh and gossip about sex but she never has anything to say. So finally she decided that it was time to take the plunge. I am a gentlemen and seem kind and patient, so she decided that she wanted me to be the one to do it. We got quite close over the next few months as we prepared for my trip. However, she never allowed any talk that was even faintly sexual. The whole idea just made her nervous. I was skeptical about her story. It just sounds so implausible. Turns out, she was telling the truth. She was really scared when we met. On the first evening I built up the romance to put her at ease. She insisted that she needed to get good and drunk. When we finally got into bed, I had to promise over and over that I would not hurt her and would stop as soon as she asked. The first night we just did some naked play but I didn't push things (literally and figuratively.) By the next day we accomplished the mission. That night she had her first ever orgasm. After that, she was hooked. Since she had a baby, things were quite comfortable after she got over her nerves. We spend several wonderful, sex-filled days together. By the time I left, she was completely over her phobia. Mission accomplished. My guess is she won't be so quick to rebuff the suitors who come calling from now on.

CL is over analyzing this thing. As we all know it doesn't make sense to invest too much time in these girls, or to become attached to them before meeting and rooting them a few times at least. These girls chat with lots of guys just as mongers line up meet and seed sessions with multiple girls from dating sites. The rule of the game is the monger who gets there first, fucks first. Once a few days shy of meeting a self-declared virgin she dropped off the radar. When she resurfaced she accidentally revealed that a monger, probably from ISG, not only met and fucked all her holes but also left her a hellacious dose of antibiotic resistant claps to remember him by. The sly little piglet had gotten her chat mates mixed up and without webcam she thought she was chatting with the guy who gave her 'poosay' a 'really bad seksual sickness! ' When she asked me to invite her to view webcam I told her that I really needed to log off. But before I did so, I promised that I would be sending the money to buy the more powerful antibiotic treatment that her doctor prescribed to eradicate the weapons-grade claps that was rotting away her crotch. I never got around to sending those much needed pesos, so I hope she didn't set too many mongers' dicks on fire with her disease. Being a young hot spinner working in the tourism sector, she certainly had the opportunity to be a serial arsonist.

[QUOTE=Chocha Monger;1384160]the monger who gets there first, fucks first.[/QUOTE]Brilliant. This should be the new motto of the ISG.

Is there any way we can put this on a bumper sticker? Or a t-shirt?

one more report about a dia chatmate: this one is 23 and in the process of getting a divorce from a northern european. she lived there for a couple of years but now is back home in the province. her best feature is a truly astounding blanket of black, thick, lustrous hair down to her ass. we really have to calibrate our appearance scale between home and phils, don't we? here at home, i would consider myself the luckiest guy around if i could get a cute young girl like this to give me the time of day. in the phils scale, she is just above average in looks if you factor out the hair. lg epitomizes why we put all the long effort into developing relationships with regular girls on dia instead of just hooking up with pros. she is very, very sweet but shy in matters of sex. as time went on slowly revealed her sensual side. she was a virgin when she got married and only had been with this one guy in her life. since her separation she hadn't been with anyone. so she was at a slow simmer and ready to boil over with just a slight turn up of the burner. girls like her aren't just looking for sex, but for a romantic encounter. as tally wacker said below, we really have to get inside their heads and create the vision they are looking for.

lg was not at the top of my list, so i had to change our plans several times. i felt really bad about it because she really wanted to meet. finally we just ran out of time. i had a date planned with a hot rock and roll singer late that evening. my plan was to meet lg at the mall in the afternoon, give her some gifts, treat her to a nice dinner, compensate her for her time and trouble, but save the intimate session for next time. when i met her at the mall, i could see that she spent an elaborate amount of time getting prepared for the date. dress and makeup were immaculate. her lustrous hair was in a complicated braid down her chest. she was with a cousin, who she dismissed after we met. as we had our coffee and dessert, she told me that it took her 3 hours to get to our location. i'm feeling very guilty at this point. i offered to take her shopping in the mall but she shyly implied that she didn't come all that way just for a new dress. she wanted to go back to the hotel with me. i agreed and she practically jumped up and down with excitement. she clasped my waist as we looked for a cab and held my hand all the way to the hotel. she was like a kid on the way to disneyland. as we rode in the cab i could not help but think that phils is this weird alternative universe. it's some sort of quantum planet where normal rules of newtonian physics do not apply. here i am meeting a young girl who would be considered a knockout back home and she's the one pressuring me to put out. i'm just an average middle-aged guy. i still can't quite get my mind around this.

back in the room i slipped my arms around her waist and kissed her neck as she looked out the window. she turned around threw her arms around me, and just exploded with passion. it was like the cork popped out of the champagne bottle. her tongue was in my throat and clothes came flying off as she pushed me toward the bed. an intense afternoon followed. the image glued in my mind is her climbing on top of me, loosening the braid, and letting the fountain of hair drape across my chest. as she gyrated in cowgirl, the hair covered her entire torso and fell across my tummy. she leaned over and formed her hair into a tunnel around my face, moving back and forth to kiss me and back to cowgirl. wow! what a memory. she was very shy, so unfortunately no photos. as we hugged in bed after, she told me she had no sex in about 18 months and needed it very badly. she thanked me for the wonderful time. she wanted to stay all night but my schedule didn't allow it. looking back, i should have figured out a way.

lg messaged me several times for a repeat, but sadly i was busy with work and just had no time. a few days later she posted some photos on her fb that showed how she spent the gift i gave her. she hacked her hair off at mid-back and dyed it this horrible orange color. gahhhh! well, at least i got to see her before she committed this travesty against nature.

[quote=wazoo;1384353]the image glued in my mind is her climbing on top of me, loosening the braid, and letting the fountain of hair drape across my chest. as she gyrated in cowgirl, the hair covered her entire torso and fell across my tummy. she leaned over and formed her hair into a tunnel around my face, moving back and forth to kiss me and back to cowgirl. wow![/quote]woooooooooooooow. great!

[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist; 1383408]1. She probably wants kids with me so that she can have a meal ticket out of abject poverty and help her family to boot (a sister of hers is mentally handicapped, for example).

2. She is willing to forego a "normal married life" if she has a kid with me. (Marriage has never been promised) in spite of the "stigma"of being a single mother and the father living far away, a father who is perhaps a foreigner thought to be be a good catch (what they regard is good social standing) A foreigner thought to be of high standing trumps a normal dirt-poor Pinoy, methinks.

Am I right?[/QUOTE]Absolutely not. Whatever the girl tells you and actually wants (she may be sincere although I doubt it) , think before you procreate. A Pinay having an illegit kid with a Pinoy no problem (so to speak) , the kid will blend in. A Pinay having an illegit kid with a foreigner, the kid most likely will NOT blend in.

Expect for him / her a childhood and teenage years of merciless teasing, cruel harassment, perpetual insults and endless bullying not to mention discrimination. The only usefulness of the kid (s) will be as a source of income for the mother and her extended family (if you keep your word).

You have no idea how nasty, jealous and mean Filipinos / Filipinas can be with each other, even if (or because) as a gentleman should you intend to support the mother and the kid (s) well. If the father is indeed far away and does not visit his "left hand" family very frequently and only for short stays you will be inflicting martyrdom upon innocents. For frequent and long stays that's obviously different.

Now if you really have the money and the stamina of Charles Lindbergh (look up his wikipedia bio) by all means go ahead. 7 illlegit kids by 3 German mistresses, starting in his mid fifties. You will be able to offer your crowd all the protection it will need and indeed require.

So you are learning Cebuano, a Borneo-Philippine language, good luck to you, after that you should learn the "other" Borneo-Philippine language which is spoken neither in Borneo nor in the Philippines and you will note no doubt its amazing similarity to either Tag or Ceb and try your luck with the girls there and if you have a smattering of French you will impress them even more.

[QUOTE=Wazoo; 1384353]One more report about a DIA chatmate: This one is 23 and in the process of getting a divorce from a Northern European. She lived there for a couple of years but now is back home in the province. Her best feature is a truly astounding blanket of black, thick, lustrous hair down to her ass.

Snip snip snip.

As we rode in the cab I could not help but think that Phils is this weird alternative universe. It's some sort of quantum planet where normal rules of Newtonian physics do not apply.

Snip snip snip.

LG messaged me several times for a repeat, but sadly I was busy with work and just had no time. A few days later she posted some photos on her FB that showed how she spent the gift I gave her. She hacked her hair off at mid-back and dyed it this horrible orange color. Gahhhh! Well, at least I got to see her before she committed this travesty against nature.[/QUOTE]Very sad, why do they have to dye their hair like this all over the Far East.

Now you have to admit that the upkeep and maintenance of an exceptionally very long and thick mane is very time consuming and even physically demanding, not to mention the endless plumber's bills because she will forever clog the shower outlet, that is probably because of these bills that her husband divorced her.

On the other he could have given her a little loom so that she could weave all the hair that she was shedding and make some money selling the cloth thus produced.

Now could you elaborate on the meaning of "quantum planet", never mind, but your English HS teacher (s) must be proud of you.

Now I have expressed this before but I am a little surprised about a Pinay legitimately in Europe and going back to the Phils to actually work there (at the local salaries) , if divorced how come she could not have squeezed a modest alimony. My wife always mentions going back there but (regrettably) she does follow through with her great idea once she realizes (again and again) that a 90% plus pay cut in her teacher's salary (assuming she could find a job) would be deleterious to her life style (like commuting in a jeepney along some polluted byway instead of her own new car in the New England countryside).

[quote=hibukhibok; 1384621]a pinay having an illegit kid with a pinoy no problem (so to speak) , the kid will blend in. a pinay having an illegit kid with a foreigner, the kid most likely will not blend in.

expect for him / her a childhood and teenage years of merciless teasing, cruel harassment, perpetual insults and endless bullying not to mention discrimination. the only usefulness of the kid (s) will be as a source of income for the mother and her extended family (if you keep your word).

so you are learning cebuano, a borneo-philippine language, good luck to you, after that you should learn the "other" borneo-philippine language which is spoken neither in borneo nor in the philippines and you will note no doubt its amazing similarity to either tag or ceb and try your luck with the girls there and if you have a smattering of french you will impress them even more.[/quote]i was just going to let the above, chock full on inaccurate information and cultural misperceptions slip by without comment, since i'm old, peaceful and in no need of a meaningless flame war. however, the notion that a mixed race child is cause for derision here is so contrary to my life, my experience and my observations here, that i felt compelled to comment.

first, the 7 mestizo kids with whom i have direct contact are highly esteemed by their peers, typically elected the "kings" and "queens" of their classes, based solely on their genetic make-up, and more often than not, objects of envy. not only do they have abundant friends, but they are (undeservedly) acclaimed, and are a constant source of pride to their families; cynosures if you will simply by virtue of the difference in their skin color. the "merciless teasing" declamation is nonsense and i suspect not based on anything much in the way of observed fact.

i'm also curious about the "borneo-philippine"characterization of the language. first, because the last time i looked borneo was divided between malaysia and indonesia; two languages with sanskrit origins perhaps, but quite different in their modern incarnations. second, because the allusion to the helpfulness of french, which i speak fluently, eludes me completely. i've traveled widely in this country, and aside from the fact that i can talk to my french friends here in the language i love, has not been of of any advantage whatsoever.

on the whole, i find some parts of the above post incomprehensible, and those parts that i did understand are just wrong-at least based on ten years of observations here.

ge

[quote=hibukhibok; 1384621]a pinay having an illegit kid with a pinoy no problem (so to speak) , the kid will blend in. a pinay having an illegit kid with a foreigner, the kid most likely will not blend in.

expect for him / her a childhood and teenage years of merciless teasing, cruel harassment, perpetual insults and endless bullying not to mention discrimination. the only usefulness of the kid (s) will be as a source of income for the mother and her extended family (if you keep your word).[/quote]i must support most strongly ge's comments here, having lived here for almost 16 years.

surely hibuk's comments refer to some racist experiences in some other part of the world, not the philippines. i have never seen anything untoward about mestizo kids, although filipinos can be rather racist towards very dark-skinned people.

a lighter skin color alone is a source of great distinction amongst any mestizo kid's peers and jealousy would not be anything nasty.

[QUOTE=Hibukhibok; 1384621]Absolutely not. Whatever the girl tells you and actually wants (she may be sincere although I doubt it) , think before you procreate. A Pinay having an illegit kid with a Pinoy no problem (so to speak) , the kid will blend in. A Pinay having an illegit kid with a foreigner, the kid most likely will NOT blend in.

Expect for him / her a childhood and teenage years of merciless teasing, cruel harassment, perpetual insults and endless bullying not to mention discrimination. The only usefulness of the kid (s) will be as a source of income for the mother and her extended family (if you keep your word).

You have no idea how nasty, jealous and mean Filipinos / Filipinas can be with each other, even if (or because) as a gentleman should you intend to support the mother and the kid (s) well. If the father is indeed far away and does not visit his "left hand" family very frequently and only for short stays you will be inflicting martyrdom upon innocents. For frequent and long stays that's obviously different.

Now if you really have the money and the stamina of Charles Lindbergh (look up his wikipedia bio) by all means go ahead. 7 illlegit kids by 3 German mistresses, starting in his mid fifties. You will be able to offer your crowd all the protection it will need and indeed require.

So you are learning Cebuano, a Borneo-Philippine language, good luck to you, after that you should learn the "other" Borneo-Philippine language which is spoken neither in Borneo nor in the Philippines and you will note no doubt its amazing similarity to either Tag or Ceb and try your luck with the girls there and if you have a smattering of French you will impress them even more.[/QUOTE]I do not claim to be an expert on Philippine society but from what I have read, admittedly not seen, the reality seems closer to what Red Kilt and GoodEnough describe and I think they have "on the ground" experience there. Your description, it would seem, is more in keeping with what happened in Vietnam with children sired by an American father, the worst being in the cases when the father was a Black. Similar stories and cases can be found in Korea.

As for your flawed references to languages, Cebuano is of the Philippine branch of the huge Austronesian language family. The Borneo branch is separate, in the way that Latin, Illyrian, Slavic, Celtic or Indo-Iranian branches are separate branches within the Indo-European language family. You are obviously referring to Malagasy, a Borneo branch language which is the lingua franca of Madagascar, a country where French is also official and main language of government. By the way, Malay is also an Austronesian language which has taken vocabulary from many sources, including Indo-European Sanskrit.

No, I don't do girls on the basis of whether their language is actor focus or object focus intense like Philippine languages any more than I would want to do a girl because I get off on the grammaticalization of deixis and evidentiality in Malagasy pronouns.
I speak French fairly well too. So,according to you, off to Africa, Madagascar, I should go. Not for a while anyway.

I actually love the Cebuana I have been mentioning and am learning Cebuano for her, nothing else. Is that so hard to understand?

[QUOTE=Hibukhibok;1384628]Now I have expressed this before but I am a little surprised about a Pinay legitimately in Europe and going back to the Phils to actually work there (at the local salaries).[/QUOTE]As I understand it, she married her husband when she was very young and doesn't have any real skills. The husband was abusive so she came home to family as a kind of escape. They aren't yet divorced so she gets no alimony. Her visa is still valid and she considers going back, but it would mean leaving her family to go back to a place where she has few friends and she would have to start all over with nothing. Anyway. That's probably saying more about her life than I'm comfortable, but it's in the way of an explanation.

I've noticed that the practice of dying hair is sweeping Asia. When I first started working in Japan 20 years ago, the only women who died their hair were bars girls. Now it has swept even into the middle classes. Strict rules against it have relaxed, so that even business people do it now. I understand the need to express some individuality in a homogeneous culture, but I've always had a strong preference for glossy black hair and dark eyes.