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[QUOTE=JimmyStreets;2916674]Great justification inflating the market for the rest of us. Can you go to Costa Rica instead and pay silly prices? Typical Cali person.[/QUOTE]This site is to post information; I did not set the price; I paid whatever the market price is; if you can't afford what is being offered, go somewhere else.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2916657]Did your taxi find the place easily? I've had problems with taxis finding the location.[/QUOTE]I used Uber, and it was accurate every time.
This is why I love Loutron, guarantied service on what is promised. If the service is bad, complain and you get another girl.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2916534]I just returned from 4 days in Medellin. Everything posted about the Mayor's attempt to scare men seeking underaged girls is true. The airport, street signs and billboards threaten men seeking underaged girls. Of course, the one man accused of having 2 underaged girls in his hotel room, and not caught in the act of doing anything illegal, quickly fled the country when released from jail the next day and the police are looking very stupid, so the Mayor is trying to appease his voters that he now is protecting their young daughters.
Parque Lleras now has several barricades with police check points, costing the city much money to man, and the cops are checking IDs of everyone for age, nothing else, maybe to show a presence and intimidate, but a total waste of police resources since the ONE individual accused of inappropriate conduct has left the city many weeks ago. Bars are open again, after being shut down for a week or so, then gradually opened again with limited hours, now back to full hours.
Thursday about 9 pm, I walked around the park. Saw many solid 8's, 9's but also many fatties, tattoo freaks, fuglies. The going rate quoted was 250 mil pesos. Many attractive women are asking 350 mil pesos now. One very fine solid 9 was asking 400 mil pesos. Beware, though, they are all sneaky, experienced, lying hardened prostitutes. You will negotiate a price, then when you get the girl back in your room they will try to underperform and then get the full pay. I just walked around and looked at the girls. Many were tired, appeared robotic, only doing a job and not very personable or interested in me, only in money.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JohnGault;2916679]I see prices asked at 400 k plus 50 K tip also 600 k plus 50 K tip. Is not that big price enough? [/QUOTE]There are at least 2 market places that members here use -.
Local market. Those that pay the regular high street prices (think of it as shopping at the places that local people shop at), and.
Tourist market. Those that pay tourist prices (think of it as shopping at a mall which is only open to tourists and that charges 4 times the local price).
Facebook, La Isla, Fase 2, Loutron, Insta, Desperately Seeking are all part of the tourist market. Vendors here will charge what they can, I. E. What the tourist is willing to pay.
The convenience and quality factor in the tourist market is worth the high price. If you can not speak Spanish, want girls who can speak some English, and are 8 to 10 in looks, then be ready to pay.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2916822]There are at least 2 market places that members here use -.
Local market. Those that pay the regular high street prices (think of it as shopping at the places that local people shop at), and.
Tourist market. Those that pay tourist prices (think of it as shopping at a mall which is only open to tourists and that charges 4 times the local price).
Facebook, La Isla, Fase 2, Loutron, Insta, Desperately Seeking are all part of the tourist market. Vendors here will charge what they can, I. E. What the tourist is willing to pay.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2916684]It is never enough. These smart, ambitious women have no choice but to do this in order to feed their sweet, illegitimate kids. The more that is paid, the faster they can get away from this horrible life and open a lucrative, honest business. Nobody should be forced into this type of work in order to make ends meet. Have a heart.[/QUOTE]Hilarious! You always brag about paying the same price you paid 10 years ago, getting freebies, etc. Here is your post in Pattaya, Thailand #42319 a few days ago about yourself.
"he not only claims it, but he shows it too. She makes 600 baht all day at 7-Eleven. She makes 1200 baht all night with me."
Practice what you preach! Where is your heart? You are supposedly paying this girl ST prices for LT. In addition, your picture shows nothing. No body shape or face. Stupid pictures. You are not half the man you think you are.
[QUOTE=JustTK;2916822]Facebook, La Isla, Fase 2, Loutron, Insta, Desperately Seeking are all part of the tourist market. Vendors here will charge what they can, I. E. What the tourist is willing to pay.[/QUOTE]Some girls have dual pricing. I went to Park Lleras with my wingman master after dinner in Provenza. The master thought it was a great training ground for me. LOL. As usual the police did not check the master's ID but checked mine.
For this night, Lleras felt as if I were in El Centro. I like one slender girl with a bubble butt so the master instructed me to ask the number as a training. Haha. I messaged her later and I told the master the offer I had which is all covered sex. My master taught me that was tourist package and told me what to do. I ended up with a non-tourist package with almost no restrictions from my perspective for a few hours at a lower price. She just left, and surprisingly she went straight home. She is barely over 18 but looked much older. I was attracted by her smile and now knowing her age, I can see the youth in it. In this case, I think my price per minute is lower than El Centro, even cost per nut maybe cheaper, and it is delivered to me at the comfort of my apartment without any actual time restriction.
Once in my place, it was like we were old friends, non-stop kissing that reminded me of Brazilian. Before we went to shower, she asked for money upfront. I paid, then I stood there expecting a change of behavior, but nothing changed. In the shower, she positioned herself so that I shielded her from the shower and proceeded to give me a BBBJ It felt good so I decided to blow my first load in her mouth, and she swallowed it. She continued to suck but I was too sensitive at that point. She knew it and slowed down. There is gold in Park lleras. LOL.
I had a green eye paisa I wrote about before. Her asking price was high but she eventually agree to my offer. I just told her she was wasting time by non-stop bargaining everything when she could have made much more already if she agreed to my offer. Now she also does everything. It basically went from like 1/2 tourist package to full non-tourist package. I paid her friend the same price I paid her regardless the amount her friend charges others. I like this girl because she listens to feedback and is more honest than others.
Also just an observation, once you know the girl well enough, you can tell if the girl has many customers or not based on her availability and if she has money or not. These girls will come without money to pay for taxi, and that tells me she did not have work. Sometimes I can also guess that I may be the only customer for that period based on observation. It's not 100% but pretty close. Facebook in general is not very efficient so they don't necessary get much business.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2916684]It is never enough. These smart, ambitious women have no choice but to do this in order to feed their sweet, illegitimate kids. The more that is paid, the faster they can get away from this horrible life and open a lucrative, honest business. Nobody should be forced into this type of work in order to make ends meet. Have a heart.[/QUOTE]Gees, are you for real? These women have many other choices to get an education or to work, like we all do, and their illegitimate kids are not "sweet" they cry and whine like all kids do. This is not a horrible life, they make much better faster money, nor are they "forced" to make ends meet. With your number of posts you should know better than to feel sorry for them! Its a free markets and Colombia outlaws pimps. They do this of their own volition.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2916833]I messaged her later and I told the master the offer I had which is all covered sex. My master taught me that was tourist package and told me what to do. I ended up with a non-tourist package with almost no restrictions from my perspective for a few hours at a lower price.
Once in my place, it was like we were old friends, non-stop kissing that reminded me of Brazilian.
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I had a green eye paisa I wrote about before. Her asking price was high but she eventually agree to my offer. I just told her she was wasting time by non-stop bargaining everything when she could have made much more already if she agreed to my offer. Now she also does everything. It basically went from like 1/2 tourist package to full non-tourist package. I paid her friend the same price I paid her regardless the amount her friend charges others. I like this girl because she listens to feedback and is more honest than others.[/QUOTE]For some reason guys will make every excuse to not go for the non-tourist package. It seems they make a lot of assumptions having never even tried. I can see if they gave examples of one time I tried to get the non-tourist package and this negative thing happened. But no. They are all insistent that negative things come along with the tourist package when in actuality that is not the case. Never in one instance after bargaining for the non-tourist package have I said if I would have just paid more like the girl wanted originally, then I would have had a better experience.
Hell, sometimes even the chicks wonder why guys pay so much!
[QUOTE=LocalExplorer;2916613]I would guess it's still possible to negotiate even with the more attractive ladies, but I couldn't be bothered, nor did I want the negative emotions. I'd rather focus on getting best quality in that price range, and I'd pay extra if the performance was really good. I had one hot girl who I tipped just over 500 THB ask me "why are you giving me so much money?" with a totally puzzled look on her face. She was 22, the experience was spectacular, and I really wanted her to come back, she did![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2916852]For some reason guys will make every excuse to not go for the non-tourist package. It seems they make a lot of assumptions having never even tried. I can see if they gave examples of one time I tried to get the non-tourist package and this negative thing happened. But no. They are all insistent that negative things come along with the tourist package when in actuality that is not the case. Never in one instance after bargaining for the non-tourist package have I said if I would have just paid more like the girl wanted originally, then I would have had a better experience.
Hell, sometimes even the chicks wonder why guys pay so much![/QUOTE]There is a lot of concern about what others pay. I don't really pay attention to what other guys pay. I just pay what I think is fair for the girl that I am interested in. If others pay her less, so be it. If others pay her more, so be it.
Now, I know that guys want some general agreement where all guys agree to pay a certain amount and we all hold the line but that is a fantasy. There are too many guys and ISG guys are just a small part of the totality of mongers visiting Colombia. It will never happen.
Pay what you want and don't worry about what others think. If you think the price is fair, that is all that matters.
I am not sure if it is still there.
Let Us Know, please.
Dulce Compania, Carrera 45 (El Palo) # 57-55.10-15 Chicas. Prices: 40 k 30 min. 50 k 40 min. 60 k hour. Hours: Monday to Saturday 10 am to 8 pm, Sundays 10 am to 4 pm. Tel: 254 57 36, Cell: 311 761 36 75.
[QUOTE=JoeRoc;2894392]What's the specific address? I can't find it on worldtraveler69's map.[/QUOTE]
I see a lot of people saying what prices are too High to be quoted in lleras.
But not a lot of info on what amount newbies should be countering with or what price point to stick to depending on diferent venues.
Seems like one poster was speaking about club prices. Are those not usually set by the establishment. Or just the exit fee.
What are seasoned mongers paying in lleras short time compared to TLN. Also adicionales always plays a factor.
Seen mostly the prices that should be expected and quoted in Centro but not much on Lleras in todays market or clubs where girls set their own prices.
Thanks for the schooling guys.
Thank you for an honest post and pricing updates. PM me so we can chat on how to get a list of FB girls. Takes a bit of time and not that hard. Also see reports of distinction.
[QUOTE=ObjJay;2916535]I spent a week there. I cannot speak Spanish (I may have learned 20 words after this trip). Safety and comfort were first, and cost was second. I stuck to these three venues.
La Isla Club.
50 K cover. Drinks are 50 K. Girls are 600 K plus 50 K Tips. Way too many bros are making it rain using 2 peso notes.
Fase II.
20 K to 50 K cover. Drinks are 40 K. Girls are 400 K plus 50 K Tip.
Loutron.
No cover if you select a girl. 600 K + 50 K Tip. Loutron had the best-looking girls in a relaxed environment, so this is where I was almost every day. Best to go around 6 PM.
Yes, I was paying above-average prices, but still, 1/5 of what I will spend in LA for the same quality.[/QUOTE]
I can't find flights on LATAM from Miami to Medellin in July. I searched the Internet and I could not find any information or any cancellation announcement. Does anyone connected to airline business have any knowledge?
And on the topic of Airlines, I wonder why Delta does not fly to MDE from Atlanta I think that would be a good market.
[QUOTE=ObjJay;2916535]I spent a week there. I cannot speak Spanish (I may have learned 20 words after this trip). Safety and comfort were first, and cost was second. I stuck to these three venues.
La Isla Club.
50 K cover. Drinks are 50 K. Girls are 600 K plus 50 K Tips. Way too many bros are making it rain using 2 peso notes.
Fase II.
20 K to 50 K cover. Drinks are 40 K. Girls are 400 K plus 50 K Tip.
Loutron.
No cover if you select a girl. 600 K + 50 K Tip. Loutron had the best-looking girls in a relaxed environment, so this is where I was almost every day. Best to go around 6 PM.
Yes, I was paying above-average prices, but still, 1/5 of what I will spend in LA for the same quality.[/QUOTE]Cover means barfine I assume. Are the listed prices (400 k or 600 k respectively) shorttime / 1 hour all included or full night?