Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Freezone; 1112535]And just to round off to the nearest #10 ideas.

I am not an expert on 3somes and will never claim this title. Only had 2 previous experiences before but just to add from my last 2 outings.

This may not be true to all but happened to me (twice). The girls always insist on changing my condom before doing the 2nd girl and then changing another cover getting back to girl 1 etc. What a hassle. Sure spoiled the 3some mood. Just throwing this info out here as it happen to me so best to ask the girls first before takeout.

FZ[/QUOTE]I think this is very much the norm in Pattaya FZ. It certainly is something of a passion killer, but in my view is an understandable health precaution for the girls so I don't object.

Re Goyave's point. He is right that opinions re the Penthouse specifically are quite polarized. It's to some guy's style but not to others. Some of the rooms are quite dark so not ideal for videoing others with a lighter floor its not such an issue. Personally the aspect I like the best is the ceiling and wall mirrors which are fun anyway but especially if you are tangled up with 2 cuties and the sex oriented shower rooms. But the main point is that for many guys who don't live in Asia a 3 some is quite a special experience and not an every day activity so in my view it's good to spend a few hundred of baht extra on a memorable room that suits your particular tastes and plans and will also make the girls think they are in an attractive and sexy environment. You are not going to have an equivalent experience if you take a couple of girls to a 200B short term room with a basic crappy bed and grimy sheets.

[QUOTE=Freezone;1112535]And just to round off to the nearest #10 ideas.

I am not an expert on 3somes and will never claim this title. Only had 2 previous experiences before but just to add from my last 2 outings.

This may not be true to all but happened to me (twice). The girls always insist on changing my condom before doing the 2nd girl and then changing another cover getting back to girl 1 etc. What a hassle. Sure spoiled the 3some mood. Just throwing this info out here as it happen to me so best to ask the girls first before takeout.

FZ[/QUOTE]

That's true and as GregLondon said, it's very much the norm in Pattaya (for the reason he mentioned). It's something that the punter has to manage when he wants to switch from one girl to the other one, but it can be fun (for instance, you can ask one girl to lick your balls while the other one is putting a new condom on your dick).

[QUOTE=GregLondon;1112758]... But the main point is that for many guys who don't live in Asia a 3 some is quite a special experience and not an every day activity so in my view it's good to spend a few hundred of baht extra on a memorable room that suits your particular tastes and plans and will also make the girls think they are in an attractive and sexy environment. You are not going to have an equivalent experience if you take a couple of girls to a 200B short term room with a basic crappy bed and grimy sheets.[/QUOTE]
Well, actually, I am pretty sure that more than 99% of the hotel rooms in Pattaya are much better than those of the working girls. Maybe not the cheapest short term rooms, but even those are sometimes more comfortable than the girls' own place! IMHO, it's mostly the punter that must feel comfortable in his room, because the room's comfort won't be an issue for the girls who are used to much spartan conditions for them! Most of them come from the rural parts of this country and have slept for years on a slim straw mattress. Of course, some environments are better and more stimulating than others even for the working girls, but according to my own experience, any decent (and clean) room is already very satisfactory for them.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1112745]Anyway, one question about Devil s Den: from what I read in the website a in-call session with one girl is 2000 bath for 90 mins: is 2000 total or you have to pay for using the room as well? If so, how much?[/QUOTE]You are quoting the OUT-call rate. For in-call you need at least 2 girls.

I believe Devil's Den in-call is 3600 Baht for 2 girls all in. Since you are already on the ground I suggest you either swing by and ask them directly or call them. Simple enough.

[QUOTE=Edward M;1112798]You are quoting the OUT-call rate. For in-call you need at least 2 girls.[/QUOTE]

High season sucks! Way too many people around.

Went to my favorite go-go bar. Observed that my favorite girls were already bar fined. Went there again at opening time the next day; they weren't even around.

Ya Baby Dolls at Soi 15 is one of those "fun" go-go bars; I like the way they carve the banana! I also like that the bar fine drops to 300 baht at 1:30 AM.

Went to Super Baby and Super Girl to have some beers and look at some eye candy. The cute girls weren't around.

At 4:30 PM went to Sabai Room and Sabai Land (soapies around Soi 3). Went there without tout; I was quoted 1800 baht at Sabai Room and 1700 at Sabai Land. Around 10-15 girls; talent was marginal; a couple of 5s or 6s; most were ugly. I passed.

Tipping scene seemed to have gone worst. Stupid American tipping culture seemed to have ingrained itself into the Pattaya scene. Now it seems that most people tip; different from before; I see people tip 20 or 40 baht; I tip approx 10 baht. They seemed to be happy with it.

[QUOTE=Pipe Layer99;1112935]I believe Devil's Den in-call is 3600 Baht for 2 girls all in. Since you are already on the ground I suggest you either swing by and ask them directly or call them. Simple enough.[/QUOTE]True. Thanks both.

Then I ask more properly: is the in-call session with two girls 3600 total or any extra fee for the room?

And: is the out-call session with 1 girl 2000 total or any extra for barfine?

Basically I would like to know the minimum cost of each different session.

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel; 1112492]One of the most persistent questions on the LOS punter boards has to do with Russian girls for P4P in Pattaya and Bangkok. Short answer is: there aren't any. There are plenty of attractive Russian tourist girls all over Thailand, but virtually none of them is available for P4P. The girls in the pics below are Ukrainian, which isn't Russian, but a lot closer than Uzbek or Kazak. They work at Galaxy and Lady Shadow on Walking Street, the places where "European Girls Only" dance in the glass booths.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]144808[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]I come to Thailand for the Thai-ladies, but wow. That girl in red (sort of) looked quite good!

Thanks for posting!

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1112993]True. Thanks both.

Then I ask more properly: is the in-call session with two girls 3600 total or any extra fee for the room? [/QUOTE]Total.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1112993]And: is the out-call session with 1 girl 2000 total or any extra for barfine?[/QUOTE]Total.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing;1112993]Basically I would like to know the minimum cost of each different session.[/QUOTE]Drinks are also reasonable.

[QUOTE=Sexual Healing; 1112993]True. Thanks both.

Then I ask more properly: is the in-call session with two girls 3600 total or any extra fee for the room?

And: is the out-call session with 1 girl 2000 total or any extra for barfine?

Basically I would like to know the minimum cost of each different session. [/QUOTE]You can save yourself a lot of time by going to their website which can answer all your questions.

I believe it is [url]www.[/url] Devilsdenpattaya. Com.

LBM

Their website clearly answers all of your questions.

[url]http://devilsdenpattaya.com/index.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel;1112492]In all, it was an interesting experience to spend time with the Ukrainian girls. I learned a lot about the scene for non-Thai women working on WS. More on that in a later post.[/QUOTE]Very interesting intel EP. Thanks for posting. Funny to hear they don't even BF.

I've never ever considered stepping into Galaxy Club though. Enough info here to deter me.

[QUOTE=Tim Bone; 1113154]Very interesting intel EP. Thanks for posting. Funny to hear they don't even BF.

I've never ever considered stepping into Galaxy Club though. Enough info here to deter me. [/QUOTE]They can be bar-fined, but they don't deliver with sex. There was a post on a LOS-based board about a guy who paid US$350 to "bar fine" one of the Galaxy dancers, only to find out it only included taking her to dinner and a disco.

What everyone has to remember is that 99% of the customers of Galaxy Club don't get much of a chance to see naked white woman and are willing to pay handsomely for the opportunity. Galaxy has no attraction for a farang punter.

Best advice. Avoid it.

Evil

[QUOTE=GregLondon; 1112501]Coming to this thread late but as I am very much a 3 some fan, here are my thoughts / observations.

1 Pattaya is one of the easiest places in the world to set up a 3some. In general you can think in terms of getting a discount for 2 girls (buy one get a second half price etc) as the majority of girls will see it as relatively easy money for her and her friend.

2 Apart from the genuinely bi girls most girls will be much more comfortable with their friend rather than a second random girl that you select. Typically the second girl will not be as cute as the first one you chose as the first one will be trying to help out her less desirable friend. If you select 2 girls yourself you will probably get 2 hotter girls but there may be friction / jealousy / mistrust etc.

3 90% of the 3somes that take place in Patts are what might be called simulated 3somes. Ie the two girls will fuck you but have only limited / simulated interaction between themselves. Most girls will be happy enough to lick / fondle each other's boobs give you a double blow job etc. They will typically be less keen to lick each other's pussies and if they do so it may be simulated (they will lick through a V shaped two fingers etc) or of limited duration.

4 If you are getting short time girls especially from beach road you need to clarify whether you are expecting to get two pops ie one in each girl. Their idea may be that as soon as you have come once they rush to the bathroom, but on their clothes and head off as the BR girls are generally looking to be over and done with within 45 mins if possible.

5 Finding genuinely bi girls who really do enjoy licking each other's pussies etc is far more challenging. As has been mentioned several times the Devils Den girls are the best trained / most professional in Patts so you should get either genuine or very professionally simulated action there. BUT that is an expensive option.

6 Most of the Gogos and some of the bars will have at least some girls who are more or less genuinely into it. The best approach is probably simply to tell the mamasan what you are looking for and see who she suggests but don't be afraid to shop around till you find girls that you are comfortable with.

7 Many of the freelancers on BR / walking Street and the discos will also be up for it, but you need to discuss exactly what your expectations are and see if they are OK with that.

8 The best option (and the one I always aim for) , is to find a genuinely bi girl and tell her to turn up with her various girl friends or go hunting for girls together. If you can achieve this and get a "genuine" threesome with the girls licking each other until they cum etc it makes the simulated 3 somes seem like eating British food after a trip to France. For obvious reasons it's not so easy to find / cultivate such girls especially if you are a newbie to Pattaya and just on a two week trip etc. Once guys find a girl like this, they tend to stick with her and keep her to themselves.

Hope you find these tips useful.

GregLondon[/QUOTE]Lots of nice points here Greg and I just have a few points to add.

On the buy one and get one free point, or with a discount, I don't really see this as conducive to a really good threesome. The free or discounted girl might get involved at the start and then just stop leaving her friend to go it alone. Also, if they are good friends or from the same village, it's unlikely that they will get involved in any kind of lesbian activities. They might consider a kiss to be way over the line.

Two hot girls fit more in line when fulfilling a fantasy threesome. Who has a fantasy threesome about one hot one and her dumpy little partner? Although this combination might turn out to be more pleasurable than two hot chicks with attitude.

I've been in situations where the girls have licked each other's pussies and where they haven't. One hot Go-Go dancer I know is a bi. In fact she prefers girls much more than men. From time to time we have threesomes. She might actually want to try one of the dancers herself so she asks me if I am interested. She gets the best of both worlds as she is having fun and I am paying for it. Even though some of these sessions are sometimes experimental they are very good fun especially when the third girl gets the hang of things. Normally alcohol will help her unwind but not too much. If anyone is looking for a bi / lesbian Go-Go or Bar Girl just ask the girls that work there.

The short time sessions never really work for me. In the room you close the door and just get down to it. Some people might like this but for me it's more of a fantasy rush job. I used to do this in the big massage parlours and a few short time bars. In one place the girls told me they were show girls and that they would put on a show for me. This they did and they had dildos and went through their show. I felt like I was in a porn movie as they made all the porn movies noises. Sadly they messed up their performance by speaking Thai to each other about their Thai boyfriends and how they wanted me to come really quickly so they could get back in the bar. Sometimes I don't let the girls know that I can speak Thai. Another session the two girls didn't interact at all. When one was close to an orgasm she sent the other one to the bathroom. One of the most unusual threesomes and, one that I've mentioned before, took place between a mother and her daughters' friend. The mother was OK. About forty and quite sexy. The daughters friend was twenty and very very sexy. But this was more of a training exercise for the daughters' friend. The mother really just looked on, hovered around the bed and advised the daughters' friend what to do. Quite unusual but free so I just went for it.

[QUOTE=Evil Penivel;1112492].. an interesting experience to spend time with the Ukrainian girls. I learned a lot about the scene for non-Thai women working on WS.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the report. What would you say an Ukrainian girl could expect to earn working in Thailand? I am wondering how much it would take to attract and keep one as a mistress.