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[QUOTE=Homer69]...The best service with a Japanese lady is at a soap but you will pay a lot more for it....[/QUOTE]Homer69 is right with the general, "short answer".If you are interested in the "long answer", here it is. There is a ton of fuzoku/adult services in the Tokyo area and a huge variety. Now, I define "quality of service" as feeling satisfied and not feeling ripped off by the provider. If you are new to Tokyo, you probably need to adjust your expectations to fit the kinds of services provided here. Like it or not, your racial background and Japanese ability, in addition to your manners and whether or not you have Japanese friends, will all factor into accessibility and often even into quality of service.If you take this broad point of view, there are quite a lot of quality options.1. Chinese Esute2. Korean DH3. Japanese DH4. Pink Salon5. Massage with Finish6. Legit Massage7. Japanese Herusu8. Korean Herusu9. Japanese Soap10.Kawasaki Booths11.Nampa12. ... many more that I don't have experience with - too many to listIn general, I agree with Homer69 - Chinese Esute is pretty low on the scale of good service, but for the low price paid, it's sometimes worth it if you find a decent one in say, Takadanobaba.I personally prefer Options 4. and 5. for value (look at my previous posts for suggestions) where although not cheap (but cheaper than Grimpeur), there is good management and consistent service. Places where you feel like you got your money's worth.Note that even for soap, there is a huge range of prices/quality. There are cheap soaps, but in general, the quality of women is lower (although the quality of service many not be much lower). It all depends on how much money you want to spend and what your expectations are.If you read this forum carefully, you will find many of these places described in detail. With help from the forum and some experience, you can find the providers that fit your needs.

[QUOTE=Nakameguro97]Homer69 is right with the general, "short answer".If you are interested in the "long answer", here it is. There is a ton of fuzoku/adult services in the Tokyo area and a huge variety. Now, I define "quality of service" as feeling satisfied and not feeling ripped off by the provider. If you are new to Tokyo, you probably need to adjust your expectations to fit the kinds of services provided here. Like it or not, your racial background and Japanese ability, in addition to your manners and whether or not you have Japanese friends, will all factor into accessibility and often even into quality of service.If you take this broad point of view, there are quite a lot of quality options.1. Chinese Esute2. Korean DH3. Japanese DH4. Pink Salon5. Massage with Finish6. Legit Massage7. Japanese Herusu8. Korean Herusu9. Japanese Soap10.Kawasaki Booths11.Nampa12. ... many more that I don't have experience with - too many to listIn general, I agree with Homer69 - Chinese Esute is pretty low on the scale of good service, but for the low price paid, it's sometimes worth it if you find a decent one in say, Takadanobaba.I personally prefer Options 4. and 5. for value (look at my previous posts for suggestions) where although not cheap (but cheaper than Grimpeur), there is good management and consistent service. Places where you feel like you got your money's worth.Note that even for soap, there is a huge range of prices/quality. There are cheap soaps, but in general, the quality of women is lower (although the quality of service many not be much lower). It all depends on how much money you want to spend and what your expectations are.If you read this forum carefully, you will find many of these places described in detail. With help from the forum and some experience, you can find the providers that fit your needs.[/QUOTE]With regards to Soap, I agree that price and quality are highly variable.For those on a budget, there are 2 well known soaps in Ueno, namely New York New York and Champs, under same management, who accept non japanese speaking gaijins. Price is ridiculously low, 9200 Y. But the quality of the women is likely to be very, very low... however, service is ususally excellent... Have been there perhaps 10 times, have been disappointed by the service only once; Since they know my face, I can ask, using body language, for a "young and busty",and ususally get one even if it means waiting a little. Not to say that there are model type though, but again, for this price and this quality of service, I don't mind.

So, UCLA or GRIMPEUR?What's the best?Thank You!

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Argh, just lost a long report. Here's the long and the short of it: Went to Takadanobaba to try Otokonorakuen again. Website is www.otokonorakuen-s. Com. Japanese-speaking ability is a must, as the papa-san recommends calling 30 min. In advance to make a reservation. He says some days there are no customers, some days lots of customers, even with the crappy rain tonight.Take a left out of the Waseda exit of Takadanobaba JR station. Walk 5-10 min. Until there is a Quattro pachinko palace on your left. There should be a traffic light in front of the pachinko palace. Cross the street at the light, there should be a Morioka reimen joint there. To its right, as you stand on the street, there should be another ramen joint. In between the two ramen joints is a set of stairs going up, with a sign above them in Japanese for "Yuri". Go up the stairs, and knock on the locked door on the right. When I went, the papa-san seemed to be finishing up with one of the girls, and he embarrassedly asked me to "call 30 min. Ahead next time."The papa-san shows you some pictures (3 girls for me). You choose, and then the papa-san draws you a map. You go back out, down the stairs, across the street, and into one of the alleys leading away from the main street. The apartments constantly change, it must be some kind of security against getting busted by LE. I had some trouble finding the right exact apartment, but the papa-san came out in response to my call, and he guided me to the exact apartment.Aiko is a 6 in the looks department, but I got a 9 in service. She is an eager beaver (I guess pun intended), and she is eager to please. She gave me the best massage I have ever gotten in a Chinese FS esute-- she has very strong hands. She seemed to enjoy it when we got down to the dirty deed, and I had a good time. We had a good conversation afterwards, and she gave me another massage- really relaxing. She said she just started in the shop 3 days ago, and only came from China 4-5 months ago.All in all, you can't beat it for the price, even with the raised prices-- now 9, 000 yen for 60 min. FS is of course included. I think the papa-san tells the girls to massage you once the FS is done, too. The papa-san is very talkative, I think it would probably pay to make friends with him if you plan on using these kinds of options regularly-- he seems like a decent sort.Looks: 6Service: 9price: 9,000 yen for 60 min. Call 30 min. in advance-- Japanese speaking ability a must. ymmv, as always.Would I repeat: yes.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

I never recommend NYNY or Champs anymore to anyone. I've done this for co-workers and most of them can't deal with getting serviced by a 40-something or 50-something year old who reminds them of their mother or aunt. "Young and busty" could also mean young=35, busty=busty but you may have to deal with a beer gut and thunder thighs that many younger guys are just not ready for. If you want "young, busty and not chubby" then it's going to be a huge challenge to get all three at these places. Add "cute" or "attractive" to this mix and you are just not going to get it. Many years ago, a tout in the neighborhood tried to steer me away to a Chinese esute. I asked him how old, 30-something? He said, many are older. How much older? He said as old as 60. I said 60? He said, unfortunately yes. I have not seen any that were 60 but there are quite a few in their 50s there. Nothing wrong with a lady in her 50s if that's OK with you but for some guys, it's just not an enjoyable experience.Service is usually good but these places are not for most guys who prefer a younger, more fit and more attractive lady.[QUOTE=Dreams]With regards to Soap, I agree that price and quality are highly variable.For those on a budget, there are 2 well known soaps in Ueno, namely New York New York and Champs, under same management, who accept non japanese speaking gaijins. Price is ridiculously low, 9200 Y. But the quality of the women is likely to be very, very low... however, service is ususally excellent... Have been there perhaps 10 times, have been disappointed by the service only once; Since they know my face, I can ask, using body language, for a "young and busty",and ususally get one even if it means waiting a little. Not to say that there are model type though, but again, for this price and this quality of service, I don't mind.[/QUOTE]

Just thought I'd do a little research and report back on Shibuya's love hotel hill, in Dougenzaka.Was in the neighborhood a few nights ago, and the place is hopping-- if you walk up to the left of the 109 building, and then take a right before the big yellow neon sign for "tonkotsu ramen", you go up the alley. There are lots of sex-related establishments, and a convenience store directly in front of you. To the right is an alley and lots of love hotels, to the left of the convenience store is what I call, "fashion health alley." There are about 7 or 8 "fashion health" establishments here. (To those of you who have been to Grimpeur, you don't need my directions.)I just wanted to test the waters and see how "gaijin-friendly" the other establishments were, so I walked down the alley. The fashion health establishments are very obvious, with pink and purple lighting behind doorways with split curtains. Some of the touts ignored me, some of them immediately closed their doors at the sight of a gaijin. But some of the touts seemed to be in a talkative mood-- I got to talking with them, and they were friendly enough to tell me it was a busy night. I asked them if they would take a gaijin, and they replied that as long as the gaijin could speak as much as I could, it would be fine-- the girl just had to be able to tell me the rules, and what she could not do. I talked to 4-5 of the fashion health reception people, and they all gave me the same line.For some reason, apparently to do with what shady characters run the neighborhood, they have lots of Japanese girls in the fashion healths in the alley, but no Korean girls. There are some Chinese girls working in the "hoteheru" down the alley and around the corner, on the left. On a Friday night, the love hotels here are doing a brisk business, with "couples" obviously on "dates" going to and fro into the hotels.Around midnight on a Friday or Saturday night, there are also Chinese "masaji girls" at the "tonkotsu ramen" corner, who will upsell you to full service for an exorbitant 40, 000 yen or so (don't ask me how I found this out.) Some of them, however, it is worth noting, are extremely hot.Hope this recon helps somebody out. Hopefully in the future there will be recon reports on Ueno or Uguisudani, or some other places.[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

[QUOTE=Homer69]I never recommend NYNY or Champs anymore to anyone. I've done this for co-workers and most of them can't deal with getting serviced by a 40-something or 50-something year old who reminds them of their mother or aunt. "Young and busty" could also mean young=35, busty=busty but you may have to deal with a beer gut and thunder thighs that many younger guys are just not ready for. If you want "young, busty and not chubby" then it's going to be a huge challenge to get all three at these places. Add "cute" or "attractive" to this mix and you are just not going to get it. Many years ago, a tout in the neighborhood tried to steer me away to a Chinese esute. I asked him how old, 30-something? He said, many are older. How much older? He said as old as 60. I said 60? He said, unfortunately yes. I have not seen any that were 60 but there are quite a few in their 50s there. Nothing wrong with a lady in her 50s if that's OK with you but for some guys, it's just not an enjoyable experience.Service is usually good but these places are not for most guys who prefer a younger, more fit and more attractive lady.[/QUOTE]...at least with you sentence " never recommend...". Sure enough, I will not recommend it to any "young" guy who want a fit, yound and attractive girl. , And I will always mention the "risks" taken by going there. But, for somebody on a budget, who wants to know what the soapie routine is, and wants a japanese girl (or woman, should I say...),and does not mind too much the look, it's a bargain. BTW, my last "young and busty" was both, that is less than 25, and nice d cups. Not a beauty otherwise, but surely an excellent deal for 9200 Yens. And after that I booked the legendary Manami ( then at AM) on the morning of my departure, just to keep great memories...BTW, what do you recommend to your young friends who do not speak a word of Japanese, and wants a to experiment a soap? I am not young anymore, but may still be interested...

I guess you haven't been there for awhile. With the commodity bubble a few years ago and the spike in the price of heating oil they raised the price to 9800. I like the place but I'm an old guy. My young co-workers are not into getting a bath from their mother. That's how one characterized the experience after he tried it on my advice. So, I gave up recommending it.I don't recommend these places to anyone. They are better off going to a Chinese esute, getting FS and questionable service and a true bargain in the process. If they are on a budget I send them to JanJan or other pink salons. Most of them want either FS or BBBJCIM, neither of which is available at NYNY or Champs. Occasionally you can get CIM but there are only a few that do it and you have to ask for it or you'll usually get a hand finish. Some of them won't even do BJ, covered or BB, just a straight hand finish. But, they will usually give you a rim job or other nice thing to make up for it. You have to ask before you go in with them.[QUOTE=Dreams]...at least with you sentence " never recommend...". Sure enough, I will not recommend it to any "young" guy who want a fit, yound and attractive girl. , And I will always mention the "risks" taken by going there. But, for somebody on a budget, who wants to know what the soapie routine is, and wants a japanese girl (or woman, should I say...),and does not mind too much the look, it's a bargain. BTW, my last "young and busty" was both, that is less than 25, and nice d cups. Not a beauty otherwise, but surely an excellent deal for 9200 Yens. And after that I booked the legendary Manami ( then at AM) on the morning of my departure, just to keep great memories...BTW, what do you recommend to your young friends who do not speak a word of Japanese, and wants a to experiment a soap? I am not young anymore, but may still be interested...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Serpaz]So, UCLA or GRIMPEUR?What's the best?Thank You![/QUOTE]Since you have mentioned in the past that you don't speak Japanese, Grimpeur is out for you. The first question they will ask you is if you can speak Japanese.

[QUOTE=Homer69]I guess you haven't been there for awhile. With the commodity bubble a few years ago and the spike in the price of heating oil they raised the price to 9800. I like the place but I'm an old guy. My young co-workers are not into getting a bath from their mother. That's how one characterized the experience after he tried it on my advice. So, I gave up recommending it.I don't recommend these places to anyone. They are better off going to a Chinese esute, getting FS and questionable service and a true bargain in the process. If they are on a budget I send them to JanJan or other pink salons. Most of them want either FS or BBBJCIM, neither of which is available at NYNY or Champs. Occasionally you can get CIM but there are only a few that do it and you have to ask for it or you'll usually get a hand finish. Some of them won't even do BJ, covered or BB, just a straight hand finish. But, they will usually give you a rim job or other nice thing to make up for it. You have to ask before you go in with them.[/QUOTE]You are correct, I have not been there since about 18 months.And your description of what can happen, and possibly can NOT happen, is also correct.At the end, our respective posts do present what the real situation is, pros and cons, and whoever reads it can decide for himself if this for him or not. Anyway, thanks for all you interesting contributions to the forum, it is useful to the occasional, albeit regular, visitors like me.

10) GIRLS ARE ALL JAPANESE. Since we're in Japan here, I'm guessing alot of people get an extra thrill when it's an actual Japanese girl and not a Korean or Chinese or korean or thai.9) GIRLS ARE AROUND AN 8 ON A SCALE OF 1-10. Not like the 4's at JanJan.8) CALL RATE IS GOOD. I don't know if it's the economy or whatever but I get around a 50% rate lately. Nicer than the 10% at Tobita this summer.7) THE SERVICE. Recently, I was offered a ride back to Minowa Station by the staff. Nice of them, huh? Waiting rooms are nice. Flat screen tv's and leather couches rock.6) YOSHIWARA IS 100% FULL SERVICE. Why go somewhere you're not sure?5) ENERGY/ENTHUSIASM. 3 out of the last 5 trips I got 2 pops in 70 minute courses. They hopped on and wanted more. Didn't know I had it in me.4) NO ATTITUDE. Girls have always been friendly and kind of girlfriend like. Never sensed that one of them wasn't into me or was going at it half assed.3) NIHONGO. Not everyone cares about this but I'm trying to learn the language. Great conversation practice. Hard to hear the pigs at JanJan with the awful music blaring.2) NO NIGERIAN TOUTS. None that I've seen, anyway. Ever been followed by one in Kabukicho? It really sucks.1) MAT PLAY. If you haven't done it, you haven't lived.

[QUOTE=Xslikx] Originally Posted by SerpazSo, UCLA or GRIMPEUR?What's the best?Thank You! Since you have mentioned in the past that you don't speak Japanese, Grimpeur is out for you. The first question they will ask you is if you can speak Japanese. [/QUOTE]I can confirm that about Grimpeur that you need to speak, it is not just point and grunt. If you do not speak Japanese then just go to UCLA. They will do their best to accomodate you with point and choose. The one in Ikebukuro is across from the big Yamada Liquor store on the Parco side of station. Just ask anyone for the liquor store location (even koban) and then go in and buy a beer and come out and you are looking at UCLA on 3rd floor. right next to it is a non gaigin place with a sign waving guy out front. Don't mix the 2 up. Also in Ikebukuro there is a pink salon called Emanuelle that I got waved into while walking by, you did need to speak nihongo. I did not have time but it looks like another possible super girls. Also several happening bars where noted and even a few black touts on one end of town. Not to mention about 2 dozen soaps and a huge LH section. With Ikebukuro's proximity to Saitama there are lots of potential girls there to man these places. I am wondering if anyone has explored this area and can give out some info. Either on the forum or PM....

I can add a few things.The Yoshiwara neighborhood is immaculate like Tokyo Disneyland. The streets are clean, the people living there are quiet and subdued and it's nothing like Kabukicho, Ikebukuro or Shibuya. It is a very pleasant place to walk around.Compared to Kawasaki (where I've had 0% success), the call rate and the quality of the ladies are quite good. There are some older ones there but it's been my experience that they are some of the best and providing pleasure.Just be aware that it's going to be very expensive. The cheapest places are going to be like CB or AM, only a much better experience, being in a purpose built facility where the waiting room, hallway and layout is all meant to retain privacy.[QUOTE=Captain Yonoi]10) GIRLS ARE ALL JAPANESE. Since we're in Japan here, I'm guessing alot of people get an extra thrill when it's an actual Japanese girl and not a Korean or Chinese or korean or thai.9) GIRLS ARE AROUND AN 8 ON A SCALE OF 1-10. Not like the 4's at JanJan.8) CALL RATE IS GOOD. I don't know if it's the economy or whatever but I get around a 50% rate lately. Nicer than the 10% at Tobita this summer.7) THE SERVICE. Recently, I was offered a ride back to Minowa Station by the staff. Nice of them, huh? Waiting rooms are nice. Flat screen tv's and leather couches rock.6) YOSHIWARA IS 100% FULL SERVICE. Why go somewhere you're not sure?5) ENERGY/ENTHUSIASM. 3 out of the last 5 trips I got 2 pops in 70 minute courses. They hopped on and wanted more. Didn't know I had it in me.4) NO ATTITUDE. Girls have always been friendly and kind of girlfriend like. Never sensed that one of them wasn't into me or was going at it half assed.3) NIHONGO. Not everyone cares about this but I'm trying to learn the language. Great conversation practice. Hard to hear the pigs at JanJan with the awful music blaring.2) NO NIGERIAN TOUTS. None that I've seen, anyway. Ever been followed by one in Kabukicho? It really sucks.1) MAT PLAY. If you haven't done it, you haven't lived.[/QUOTE]

I have tried hanging out around "Monbijou" love hotel in Shin-Okubo, and I have already reported on how there are usually 4-5 South American streetwalkers in the nearby alleys around 10pm-12 midnight on weekend nights. Many times, I have seen some obvious "deriheru" action there, with older guys hooking up with young and slutty-looking "dates" and heading to the love hotels in the area. I was wondering if anybody has done any serious research into mongering possibilities in Shin-Okubo. There are a lot of Korean establishments here, definitely some good eating places for cheap, and a lot of "esute"s. Some of their websites advertise "sexual massage". Does anyone know of any establishments in the Shin-Okubo area that offer fs? I recently had an opportunity to roam the internet sites listing "hoteheru" and "deriheru" in the Shin-Okubo area, and having walked around the area, there is p4p in the air. I think this will be my next area of reconnaissance, but if anybody has any advance information, it would be much appreciated.