German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=TheCane;1940378]Hahaha! Damn Ho you kill me sometimes LOLOLOL![/QUOTE]That is what I do here between my FKK trip, I look at their photos that I quickly ripped off from FB before they kick me out and block me for no reason. I do not deny that I am a savage LOL.

However, I find real hot Eurasian chick sometimes here and I was bare buck fucking this 19 now turned 20 years old real hot Eurasian girl with no condom for two weeks, but I got rejected from not by her agency, but by her few days ago LOL.

There are two things that often happen to me for mostly sure.

One is FKK girl kind of like me in one way or another, introduce herself and add me on her private FB, then even I do not contact or like her pic or nothing, suddenly they all kick me out of friend list and block me, always LOL.

Second is I find real beautiful diamond girl, she let me do extra service like bareback here, rim job etc. In FKK kissing, rimjob etc. , then. After about 5 or little more sessions, they block or avoid me both here at home and in FKK LOL I think as they repeat sessions with me they realize I am a savage who keep on escalating to be out of controlled beast on bed LOL.

Well so once I begin sessions with new found favorite, I go extreme ASAP as I know it ain't going to last, so as FB connection, as soon as they connect me, I copy paste save her photos, especially one with bikini or tank top ASAP, so I have some souvenir to jerk off to thinking about times I fucked her hardcore LOL.

Yes I am hentai savage beast. That is why I fly myself half the way around world to FKK, so I do not jump on young girls on street LOL.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1940198]From their pov, it makes sense to be skeptical of delaying taking the payment for a larger future profit. Most Johns have no loyalty. Or pretend to have some, but might ditch the girl after taking the free ones. Also, the dynamics of a business is different. With time, the value of a mutual business relationship may become larger to both parties. But in a club, most punters are less attracted to a girl after multiple sessions. Let's face it, we are roaming bastads after all, we want variety, which is why we go these clubs in the first place. With time, girls become more aged and less attractive to us, and the novelty and thrill of a new fuck is gone, and invariably we will keep roaming to a new piece of meat, and girls know and understand this aspect of the male animal species very well. So, they have little faith in this delayed gratification model. IMHO.

But as always, there could be exceptions.[/QUOTE]Well said Mr JNPR, I do have my fav and I repeat though and I tend to not to get bored as long as she sustain her looks. However, it is not me who reject, but they often avoid me as my sessions get more escalated as I repeat sessions LOL I manage to squeeze myself in and I escalate the sessions as much as I can to the level of sex on mars LOL!

I love how you describe these girls as new meat LOL Yeah! We are butcher men LOL!

I am going to say next time at the airport if they ask me for my occupation, I am international flying butcher men LOL!

[QUOTE=Optimist;1940273]
Sometime isg members can help out. More than once a girl has told me things which other isg members have been able to tell me are lies. That was really helpful[/QUOTE]I remember. Sometimes girls are just plain stupid when telling different stories to different guys. Even if they have seen these guys talking to each other in the club.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;1940686]I remember. Sometimes girls are just plain stupid when telling different stories to different guys. Even if they have seen these guys talking to each other in the club.

HB.[/QUOTE]In your debt :)

McAdonis. Well said: one can only mitigate risks not eliminate them.

If a customer is getting what he wants out of it, then, if it's me, I don't worry trying to prove the girl is acting solely from financial motives or also has emotional motives.

As you say, for us "fly in fly out" customers there is real pressure as we cannot pace things as we would wish (and as would be sensible).

[QUOTE=Optimist;1940694]McAdonis. Well said: one can only mitigate risks not eliminate them.

If a customer is getting what he wants out of it, then, if it's me, I don't worry trying to prove the girl is acting solely from financial motives or also has emotional motives.

As you say, for us "fly in fly out" customers there is real pressure as we cannot pace things as we would wish (and as would be sensible).[/QUOTE]Lots of fly-in customers follow this formula. Arrive the club, session with their favorite for three hours in the afternoon. Then sit in the lounge with their favorite for three hours. Then session their favorite once more for three hours in the evening. Two days later, they will return to the club to repeat the process.

In such scenarios, I imagine many girls just charge for the 12 hours spent in the room. The six hours spent in the lounge is free. It can create a win-win scenario for both the WG and the client. Some customers enjoy this type of interaction because it is more "real" like an actual date and less transactional. He is happy to get 18 hours companionship but only pay for 12 hours. The WG is happy to make 1200 EUR in a three-day span with one customer. She is also happy because it was less strenuous; chances are she was only getting penetrated a fraction of the 720 minutes they spent in the room together.

It is also smart for the FKK wife to give six hours of "free" lounge time. It allows her time to build the emotional connection with the customer. The customer may also feel guilty if he is tempted to session another WG, because his FKK wife is giving him so much time off the clock. If the FKK wife goes for a bathroom break, she can simply leave her purse there as a lock-in prop. This might discourage him from hunting for other WGs. And it might discourage other WGs from sitting down and stealing their prized customer.

[QUOTE=AznHotBoy;1940222]
I think the only "realistic" way to determine if a WG likes you is comparing with other WGs from your own personal experience with some other factors. Factoring total cost and what things she is will to do with you compare to girls with similar total cost. [/QUOTE]Lets flip this around slightly. One possible scenario is she has true feelings for you the other is she is trying to milk you for more money. In both cases, she is going to try to gauge how much you like her. Comparing your actions against the actions of her other customers would be too inaccurate. She might have had a millionaire customer spend $30 K on her in one week. Doesn't mean he liked her, he just had a lot of money and liked spending it. She'd look for as you say "out of the norm" behavior from you, not taking other customers into account. If you have a reputation at the club as just a 50 EUR guy, but are suddenly spending hundreds on her, then she knows you like her. She may also take into consideration whether you continue to session with other WGs, or if she catches you staring at other WGs, but I would guess that she would evaluate by observing your actions with other WGs, and less on how you stack up against her previous customers.

McAdonis. You describe me exactly LOL. If one is spending five nonstop days in clubs it is hard to fuck nonstop. So the benefits you describe are attractive, although very few girls can keep me interested for so long. The benefit to the girl of not fucking nonstop is obvious:easy money. Recently a girl proposed I go to a room for her for five hours, with a plan for me to fuck her every half hour, but once in the room she was more than happy to follow a much more relaxed approach: no way can a normal girl orgasm ten times in five hours.

The only downside is, as you say, that it gets hard then to go with another girl in that club as the "wife" gets very jealous sometimes (maybe she sees "her" 50 euro notes flying away from her, or maybe fears losing the customer's heart). So I resort to flying visits to a second club to do several 50 euro sessions.

As you say, none of this shows whether or not a girl has feelings for a customer, feelings for lots of euros, or a mixture. Every case is different. No different to a marriage: there are factors of emotions, money, and convenience, so why expect working girl: customer relationships to be different (although the balance of factors will tend to be different.

I like your "out of the norm" test by the girl. No such reciprocal test is possible, except possibly over a very long time.

If I were able to visit once a week then I would adopt a very different strategy.

[QUOTE=McAdonis;1940800]Lets flip this around slightly. One possible scenario is she has true feelings for you the other is she is trying to milk you for more money. In both cases, she is going to try to gauge how much you like her. Comparing your actions against the actions of her other customers would be too inaccurate. She might have had a millionaire customer spend $30 K on her in one week. Doesn't mean he liked her, he just had a lot of money and liked spending it. She'd look for as you say "out of the norm" behavior from you, not taking other customers into account. If you have a reputation at the club as just a 50 EUR guy, but are suddenly spending hundreds on her, then she knows you like her. She may also take into consideration whether you continue to session with other WGs, or if she catches you staring at other WGs, but I would guess that she would evaluate by observing your actions with other WGs, and less on how you stack up against her previous customers.[/QUOTE]That's a good point, because the girl that supposedly likes me gets quite jealous when I go with my other regular girls.

I happen to also be that 50 EUR guy, and according to herself, she does much more with me than others.

I think if a girl can net 500 to 600 euros a day, especially after covering her own entry, she will take that deal with a customer. Depends on the specific girl and day of course; an Evita on Saturday can make a lot more than that, but a normal OK girl on a Monday and Tuesday will likely make nowhere close to 500 to 600 net of her entry fee. People talk about sugar daddy's and high rollers etc, but it is not happening to every girl and not every day. My guess is that if we look at the totality of ALL transactions in the club, a majority will be of the simple 50 euro variety. And for every such transaction, there is a huge down and up time for the girl. The actual room time is only 30 min, but there is the pre sale time, including couch interview, the walk up and down, followed by a wash up and make up etc, to be followed by another hunt for the next customer. On not so busy days, when total number of sessions by all customers in the club is not very high, a girl will have a lot of down time. So, I think most girls would happily take a 500 to 600 euro a day, as long as they think you are a reasonable and not hung like a horse with the stamina of a marathon runner and English Channel swimmer combined.

I hear not just from clients but also from girls that during colder climate, LU are more and better in FKK in general. What do you guys think about that?

[QUOTE=RabbitFarm;1940867]That's a good point, because the girl that supposedly likes me gets quite jealous when I go with my other regular girls.

I happen to also be that 50 EUR guy, and according to herself, she does much more with me than others.[/QUOTE]I have seduced 3 working girls in the past, meaning I got free sex outside the club. It does happen, I did pay for lunch and dinner at relatively inexpensive places but that was all. I really do not want to share too many details. All I mean is that it can happen. Many guys are sceptical because it can never happen to them, but I gather that you are good looking? Of course it can be genuine, but you still have to be careful that is all.

It will never happen to some guys, but that is not my or perhaps your reference point. Instead of asking everyone you can just be sure by trying it out, with due caution of course. The 3 times I tried it out I never got scammed, but it did not last. Why does she like you? Are you a charmer, I am? Are you good looking, most men aren't.

[QUOTE=MrHo;1941060]I hear not just from clients but also from girls that during colder climate, LU are more and better in FKK in general. What do you guys think about that?[/QUOTE]Depends on the club? But girls take vacation during the summer. Winter is boring and cold in romania too, so probably.

[QUOTE=Pistons;1941096]Depends on the club? But girls take vacation during the summer. Winter is boring and cold in romania too, so probably.[/QUOTE]I never went yet till this year, but I got the feeling that first two weeks of December is best time in winter because girls will perhaps go home around 15th of December right? So they come before long winter vacation to get money for long vacation which is till mid to end January even till February.

I don't think line varies too much according to the season. The girls often take a holiday in the summer, but as they don't all go away at the same time it doesn't hit the lineup too severely.

The celebration of Western and Orthodox Christmas has more effect as the girls often like to be with their families and it is a concentrated time period. Similarly Orthodox Easter has a significant impact, and on Easter weekend some girls will not work fully even if they are in Germany as they see going to Church to be incompatible with working.

If there is a major international football match involving Germany lineup can be poor for a few hours as many girls will know that most German customers will be watching elsewhere and won't come to work (this only affects some clubs).