Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;2922594]I'm considering a trip to medellin from england. Are the majority of people coming here from the USA? Are any of you travelling from much further afield? Is travelling from the UK excessive and over the top or is it normal for guys here to travel from further afield maybe europe or middle east etc etc?

one last point ive spent 3-4 days familiarising myself with the medellin thread and ive got all the main points now clear and understood. should i study the bogota thread too as a firs time visitor to colombia or just stick to medellin. the main advantage of bogota is that there is a direct flight from london to bogota. i would not need to do a second flight from bogota to medellin even if it is a very short flight its still more travelling.[/QUOTE]I think that your Great British pounds will get you a much better exchange rate than USD. You will be getting quite the bargain in Medellin.

[QUOTE=ObjJay;2922531]Since I started this debate, love to know how you go about finding some one on cheap if you want the followoing.

1) 9, 10 in looks.

2) English speaking.

3) Safe (She is not going to rob me, drug me, Fake ID etc).

4) I do not want to waste time (FB, SA Girls).

Now if you are upset that people from California is coming to Medellin and paying high prices its just supply and demand. For me its 20% of California and I got far better results then what I spoend in US, thus I am happy to pay.[/QUOTE]You want a cheap date who meets your 4 conditions. You are dreamin pal, stay in Cal. , save your airfare. If she meets your qualifications, her price will be big!

Haha I enjoyed reading your post.

But those "rookie mistakes" is how someone ends up dead in Colombia, or get everything stolen and messed up. Nice cautionary tale. Could've been a really bad trip, so you lucked out.

[QUOTE=Mexica96;2922349]Was my rookie trip, first time mongering:

Did some pre-planning dates with Facebook and Tinder before arriving.

Loutron: Nice selection, 400 k for the hour. Included massage, CBJ and CFS. More if using credit card. First time I went was just 1 session. Returned and had 3 sessions the 2nd time. I noticed the girls seemed to ignore me after I'the been there for a couple hours and large groups of guys were arriving, I had to ask the staff multiple times to see the presentation.

FB girls: Most of them not as pretty as photos, 200 k for the hour. Wasn't worth the time I put in setting up. Used Kuboz Suite motel in Laureles, cheap and safe area. Had one spinner from Tinder that I did repeat session, 300 k per hour.

Centro: Befriended a local taxi and hired him for 50 k per hour to drive / tour me through Centro. Bought a few joints by the church to enjoy while we did the loop around Veracruz. Average quality, a few hotties. 50 k for the ratito, 10 k the motel. At night we went to a nearby strip club, can't remember the name. Went the a VIP area with 2 girls and the taxista. Decided to try perrico and tusi, bad idea. Couldn't get it up and was tweaking out a bit. So we left and he showed me Black Diamond club in Lleras. Nice selection but I wasn't feeling good so we called it a night.

Returned another day, mostly average girls again.

Energy Spa: Average selection, a couple cuties. Did 2 sessions, 200 k for hour.

La Isla: First night I went with a group, about 350 k for the bottle to sit at a table. Slow night, the girls in dresses didn't seem they wanted to be there or to interact. Enjoyed the show and eventually called a girl over to chat. She quoted me 600 k for the hour in the adjacent motel. Agreed and left after that session.

I returned alone and ended up screwing up big time. Bought the bottle around 350 k to sit close to the stage, and proceeded to drink quickly as I was too sober, was a busy Friday night. Eventually call a dancer over and she again quotes me 600 k for her and the room for 1 hour, I pay and we go. Afterwards I'm on cloud 9 and go back to my table, finish my bottle and have the genius idea to order 6 beers. Somewhere along the way I blacked out, rest of the night is bits and pieces, don't want to remember LOL. 300 k disappeared from my wallet. I think security carried me out and laid me down to sleep on the wall outside. They told me to leave around 7 am and somehow I stumbled through the highway still blacked out and got a ride to Poblado. Felt like dogshit and couldn't do anything my last day there.

Lleras Park: Picked up a girl in the park, she insisted I bring her friend also. I say I don't like the friend, but she says the friend will just sit in the bathroom. Dumbass move but I agreed, so we leave to Kuboz Suite. Tried the tusi again, didn't like it again. End up fucking the friend too because I'm high and drunk. The friend starts talking whispers to her, can tell they're talking about drugging me but the other girl doesn't want to. Alarm bells going off so I decide to end soon after.

Ibiza Motel Lounge: Also went to this motel, very nice but a bit overpriced.

Overall things went okay, could've negotiated better and not done dumbass shit, but hey I'm a rookie.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2922612]I haven't done a girl below 7/10 in a very long time. And even if I was okay fucking 5's and 6's, why would I pay them a lot of money? Where is the logic here?[/QUOTE]No logic. But then I don't expect any logic from you. And your history changes each time you relate it.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2922612]
What is guaranteed when you pay up is sex with a hotter girl in a better, safer and more comfortable environment. [/QUOTE]This is so typical of the nonsense you speak. Why would the price I pay the girl have any impact on the comfort of the environment? I would just be seeing her in my hotel room / apartment, just like I would if I paid less for a girl. Really, you invest so much in your fantasy world, that you cannot even so the glaring nonsense in your words.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2922612]
If you are stinky obese douchbag, no girl would enjoy sex with you, no matter how much you pay her.[/QUOTE]I am a stinky obese douchbag, but the girls enjoy sex with me, no matter how little I pay them. I think it's bcos I treat them like sentient human beings.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2922612]I haven't done a girl below 7/10 in a very long time. And even if I was okay fucking 5's and 6's, why would I pay them a lot of money? Where is the logic here? You don't fly Spirit economy for the price of Delta first class and vice versa.

What is guaranteed when you pay up is sex with a hotter girl in a better, safer and more comfortable environment. What is not guaranteed is her great performance in bed, because of good old YMMV. If you want to minimize the risk of having a shitty session with a hot girl, you got to learn how to vet them, how to establish a good rapport, you got to looks presentable and have a good hygiene. If you are stinky obese douchbag, no girl would enjoy sex with you, no matter how much you pay her, this is so obvious I don't know why I have to explain this stuff. Pay up, be in good shape, show her a good time, and your chances of having a great GFE sex with a hot girl will increase exponentially.[/QUOTE]I do my best not to address or reply to guys like you directly here but damn bro. No need for this type of comment. You're always make toxic statements. I mean, if you made sense, you'd get some credit but you're just writing a bunch of gibberish most of the time.

First of all, you DO NOT speak for women cause you're not one. And even if were secretly a woman troll, you still don't speak for every woman. Post a pic of your vg publicly if you disagree!

Secondly, women arent as superficial as men. Men see bodies and looks more than women do. Obvious youth and look matters. But it's clear that men pay for sex (wg or via a relationship) and women don't. Because beauty and its attraction matters to us more.

A man can be obese, old or ugly and find "real" love from women, bc a woman will love you for your charm, your personality, genuinely. A woman will fall in love with you for changing her tire if she was stranded, or just holding the door or buying her flowers, the list goes on. It's a matter of the heart. And no one, I mean no one on the planet should be dumb enough to try or dare to try to speak on this subject for all. It's not even arrogance, it's pure ignorance and I pity you.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2922612]

What is guaranteed when you pay up is sex with a hotter girl in a better, safer and more comfortable environment..[/QUOTE]Here is smthg I experienced to refute all that you say.

I am in Pattaya for the first time in 5 years. A few days ago I went down my fave strip in Pattaya Soi 6. To my horror I note that the girls are now charging THB 2000 short time, whereas just 5 years ago it was 8 or 900 THB. More than double the price.

Do you think the girls got hotter? No. They are exactly the same skanky girls that have always worked there.

Do you think the girls can now speak English? No. They all know the same 20 words of English each.

Do you think the rooms are nicer or the girls dress smarter? No. Rooms haven't been touched and the girsl all wear those cheap go-go outfits that you can buy for about THB 100 down the market.

The reason the prices went up is bcos the bar owners (now a capitalist oligarchy) got together and decided they could charge dumbass tourists like you double what they charged before.

So now Soi 6 is a no-go for me. I will focus on the other locations which the locals frequent and which charge fairer prices. No doubt you will start to consider Soi 6 "a hot place' bcos the prices are now high (therefore it must be hot).

[QUOTE=KeviKev68;2922619]I have admire GPS women in Medellin they have the sense not give it away to some broke ass loser.[/QUOTE]I think you forgot a word. They have the sense not to give it away to some broke ass FOREIGN loser. Sure there are broke ass losers where they are from that they have given and are giving it away to. And what makes her God's gift that she should not be giving it away besides some losers that can not get pussy anywhere else that they must give her the price she asks? If she has nothing else going for herself, the options may just be sell this pussy or do not eat. Nothing spectacular or ultrasensible about that decision.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2922603]I for one am not upset you paid more money. Thats your choice to be part of the tourist market. All I am saying is that paying high prices doesn't gaurantee you anything (other than to pay more money).

1. By looking around. I don't use a number rating scale to judge girls, but I find plenty of girls to fuck in most places. One thing I have observed is the the girls that work in the upmarket places tend to be onsessed with their appearance, wear too much make up, have false parts and false personalities. Not really my type.

2. Not smthg I have looked for, even at the time I couldn't speak Esp. Not many Colombians speak English. Get over that, and your options will open up immensely.

3. Don't take girls back to your own place, or rent a room for fcking.

4. Explore places in person and choose on site.[/QUOTE]#1. That is a hit and miss: I do my research (See #4), I get the girl for an hour, and if things work out, I go for the 5 hour package (which usually ends up a whole day for the same price).

#2. I don't want to learn Spanish; The same goes for FKK clubs in Germany or Thailand. I don't want to spend time learning a language to find cheap pusy. Happy to pay more for someone who can speak some English.

#3. I do not want to have sex in a room with cum covered mattress when I am paying for a lovely suite at one of the best hotels in Medellin. I want a GF experience.

#4. There is a Spanish forum (Like Theeroticreview in US) with extensive reviews about the call girls in Colombia. Reading that is a better review than talking to a girl for 5 min at a strip bar.

I have been involved in startups all my life (I am 63), and nothing is guaranteed. You do your research, start a company, and try it out. Ninety percent of the startups I worked on went out of business, but then you hit IPO (Twice for me), and that was worth all the failures. Finding women is kind of like that.

[QUOTE=Shemp;2922633]You want a cheap date who meets your 4 conditions. You are dreamin pal, stay in Cal. , save your airfare. If she meets your qualifications, her price will be big![/QUOTE]That's the exact point I was trying to make. If you read the past 2 days of threads, you will see few are upset I spent $$$ to find a woman with those requirements.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2922653] But it's clear that men pay for sex (wg or via a relationship) and women don't. Because beauty and its attraction matters to us more.[/QUOTE]Women don't pay for sex because they can easily and always find attractive enough guys who fuck them for free. It's the easiest thing in a world for a woman to find someone to have sex with, but not as easy to find someone to have a long term monogamous relationship with or someone that sticks around, so if she looks for that then the other considerations come in play.

And when they are old and unattractive then they do pay for sex -- women do sex tourism too (well, the ones that can afford it at least).

[QUOTE=StarletVoyager;2922594]I'm considering a trip to medellin from england. Are the majority of people coming here from the USA? Are any of you travelling from much further afield? Is travelling from the UK excessive and over the top or is it normal for guys here to travel from further afield maybe europe or middle east etc etc?

one last point ive spent 3-4 days familiarising myself with the medellin thread and ive got all the main points now clear and understood. should i study the bogota thread too as a firs time visitor to colombia or just stick to medellin. the main advantage of bogota is that there is a direct flight from london to bogota. i would not need to do a second flight from bogota to medellin even if it is a very short flight its still more travelling.[/QUOTE]I think most visitors are from the US mainly due to the ease of travel.

I'll be making my 4th trip from England in September, the travel is absolutely worth it, I've come to quite enjoy it now.

I start & end my trips in Bogota & appreciate the difference with Medellin, even though I've only scraped the surface in Santa Fe.

Medellin is where I spend the bulk of my time, the short flight from Bogota is no inconvenience whatsoever.

You should take some time to get to know Bogota a little too.

[QUOTE=MaddTraveler;2922653]First of all, you DO NOT speak for women cause you're not one.

Secondly, women arent as superficial as men. Men see bodies and looks more than women do. Obvious youth and look matters. But it's clear that men pay for sex (wg or via a relationship) and women don't. Because beauty and its attraction matters to us more.

A man can be obese, old or ugly and find "real" love from women, bc a woman will love you for your charm, your personality, genuinely. A woman will fall in love with you for changing her tire if she was stranded[/QUOTE]I have to agree with you, but with a caveat. What you are saying works with women that are not hookers. Never heard a woman that was not a hooker list the things she is looking for as he says is what will make a hooker do a good job. It is always a bunch of abstract stuff, nothing about being in shape or smelling good. Maybe what he says are things that hookers are looking for in tricks? It seems asinine though because you are the customer trying to impress someone you are paying. He says pay up. Then after that you have to impress her with how you look and a good time. Huh? If my plumber came over here, I would not have to give him over and above the usual amount for plumbers, have an ice cold beer waiting for him, neatly lay out all his tools, and make sure he has a soft cushion to kneel on, all in order to expect him to do a good job.

Then you have to figure these chicks are doing this shit day in and day out. After a while, if you have seen one guy in shape, and one guy smelling good, and one guy showing you a good time, then you have seen them all. You are showing her nothing new. Like the guy that was talking about getting an expensive hotel room so the hookers could be comfortable. Mf she has probably already been there so many times that her and the staff call each other by name. You are in fact casting your pearls among swine. Now for a chick that is not a hooker amd does not go out with a bunch of men, this type of treatment will get you somewhere. But with tricks doing this shit day in and day out for a hooker in addition to paying her, it has surely become mundane and is bringing nothing special out of her the way he wants to think it is.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2922659]Here is smthg I experienced to refute all that you say.

I am in Pattaya for the first time in 5 years. A few days ago I went down my fave strip in Pattaya Soi 6. To my horror I note that the girls are now charging THB 2000 short time, whereas just 5 years ago it was 8 or 900 THB. More than double the price.

Do you think the girls got hotter? No. They are exactly the same skanky girls that have always worked there.

Do you think the girls can now speak English? No. They all know the same 20 words of English each.

Do you think the rooms are nicer or the girls dress smarter? No. Rooms haven't been touched and the girsl all wear those cheap go-go outfits that you can buy for about THB 100 down the market.

The reason the prices went up is bcos the bar owners (now a capitalist oligarchy) got together and decided they could charge dumbass tourists like you double what they charged before.

So now Soi 6 is a no-go for me. I will focus on the other locations which the locals frequent and which charge fairer prices. No doubt you will start to consider Soi 6 "a hot place' bcos the prices are now high (therefore it must be hot).[/QUOTE]To refute all that I said? This has nothing to do with what I said. You are talking about hoeflation that exists everywhere in the world, along with inflation. Cheap girls become more expensive. Expensive girls become even more expensive. New Life used to be 55 mil /1 HR. Now it is like 115 mil / HR. More than 100% up, despite the fact that the majority of clients are locals. Same location, same girls, same cum covered mattress, just like in your example. So what? You completely miss my point. If there was a place next door to new life, with exactly the same lineup in terms of looks, same rooms and everything, but half the price, it would make zero sense to go to new life and pay double (what for? But for some people, it makes sense to go to Loutron and pay almost 4 x the new life rate because of all the things I mentioned in response to Nounce's post. But you, cheapskate, will never understand that there are levels to everything we have in life and you get what you pay for. Good luck with fucking cheap street uglies in Thailand.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2922650]

I am a stinky obese douchbag, but the girls enjoy sex with me, no matter how little I pay them. I think it's bcos I treat them like sentient human beings.[/QUOTE]Only in your wet dreams.

If you can't take care of your own body, you have no self respect. And if you don't respect yourself, how can you respect others? No need to reply, it is a rhetorical question.

[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2922719]Women don't pay for sex because they can easily and always find attractive enough guys who fuck them for free. It's the easiest thing in a world for a woman to find someone to have sex with, but not as easy to find someone to have a long term monogamous relationship with or someone that sticks around, so if she looks for that then the other considerations come in play.

And when they are old and unattractive then they do pay for sex -- women do sex tourism too (well, the ones that can afford it at least).[/QUOTE]BS, it's a very small amt of women in sex tourism. You're speaking from a man's pov, not a woman cause you don't know shit about women. Obviously.

Most readers arent going to be surprised reading these nonsense posts; why?

Mongering forums are 80% of losers, men who never had real relationships and never had real women; have been deprived of the finer things in life. Could be due to mental defects (like Miamiboy and the likes of u) or body / look or lack of personality / charisma. Yes charisma / personality among other things are some of the traits women seek as well.

The other 20% are divorced men or men with extra money and extra sex drives that travel for leisure and fun and can still have normal relationships. Like celebrities do.

I'm losing brain cells to even have to mention this. If your point was valid then why do most local women from every country only date their local men? Including the fat, old, and ugly ones? We see them everyday so I don't have to speak on women's behalf. We see it all over the world. As for prostitutes, they'll gladly take your money and go back to their fat and old local boyfriends. Also men from countries with a bit more money travel bc of restrictions and feminists attitudes, bad politics that fucked up our system. It's a huge part of why we do what we do.

So don't be an arrogant prick trying to understand women. You never will. This is no different than feminist dikes who write articles about men pretending they have a dick and know us. It's why they say men are from mars and women from venus. We have a need to please our dicks, have multiple women, and only way we can stay loyal with only one is if we make a sacrifice. For women, according to them and what we see in everyday life, it's easy. Bc women have their hearts in their vg. Like we can cheat on our wives and still go home and kiss her with zero guilts, whereas if she cheats it's purely because she loves the other guy better and planning to leave you (speaking of normal women, not hos). This is bc if she gives it up it's like giving her heart. But for us, sex is just sport, hence why we pay easily for it without negotiating. If men all over start restricting their dicks like fine women do then that would level the playing field. But unfortunately there are things we cannot fake due to our dna and who we are.

Dude, I'm still young, fit, good looking, and still pull even teenagers back home and anywhere, and they themselves hit on me. I only say this to show I'm not arguing on behalf of fat and old. I'm simply saying your attitude is just dumb as hell.

I know exactly 100% why Miamiboy and you have this attitude, thinking you're better and getting more quality pussy than your fellow mongers. When I started mongering, I noticed most guys doing this were older, unattractive, overweight, hence the 80% majority of losers from my prev point. But I never let that get to my head. I often have girls come to me begging me to chose them, and they'd whisper shit like please pick me, I don't want granpa over there to take me LOL. So yeah, working girls do that. At times they may fake that shit blowing up your ego so they get picked, or it could be true that they'd enjoy their session more with a younger fella than an old fart.

I keep my attitude in check bc I say to myself that we all get old, and I'm going to get there soon. This is for wg bc there are no relationships or emotions involved for the most part.

As far as normal women, who value a good man whether due to fact he cares for her and her family financially, has a great personality, etc, that love often will be genuine and look is the least important factor.

Do me a favor, sit down, trying bending over really hard and give yourselves a blowjob since you love yourselves so fucking much. Dumb mfrs. LMAO.