Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2924687]It was my first time so I'll post about my experience and strategy.

First off I got good advice to start at Plaza Botero. I'm still very nervous approaching a woman on the street about the hobby. I welcome any tips. [/QUOTE]Girls always seem to respond well to confidence. So try to be confident, relaxed and happy. If you feel nervous on the street, try the road behind the church. There are a ton of bars down there. You can get a drink and sit at the bar. Most have girls working in the bars, so it is easy to strike up a convo there and you don't have to worry about people approaching you.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2924687]Not many stunners. Like 2 or 3. But you can definitely find something young and reasonably attractive to pork for 15 bucks. [/QUOTE]When you add the cost of airfare, hotel room, restaurant meals, hours spent sitting at an airport and delayed flights, hassles from immigration and mig online, it no longer is only $15; it makes sense to stay at home and look at porno. LOL.

Over the past few months, more drugging incidents happening in Laureles, maybe trying to avoid all the attention in Poblado.

Earlier today, a 23 year old man was reported to be wandering through the streets drugged and disoriented in the Laureles neighborhood, rushed to hospital after police were notified.

The young man recalls partying with 2 women in his apartment, valuables reported stolen.

The local authorities report two similar incidents occurred with foreigners being victimized in the last 24 hours. [URL]https://www.pulzo.com/nacion/estadounidense-medellin-fue-drogado-tras-departir-con-mujeres-laureles-PP3733589A?utm_campaign=prensapaisa&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook-alianza&utm_content&utm_term&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2BxPi9F78ktcMQoqy32tF4p6vyshiFNGZOc-XOMqOGFhI6yHytgmplwv8_aem_V3qkQEGmff79YqZ_OdeM-g[/URL].

[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;2925040]Over the past few months, more drugging incidents happening in Laureles, maybe trying to avoid all the attention in Poblado.

Earlier today, a 23 year old man was reported to be wandering through the streets drugged and disoriented in the Laureles neighborhood, rushed to hospital after police were notified.

The young man recalls partying with 2 women in his apartment, valuables reported stolen.[/QUOTE]I will note here, once again, that a common denominator in these situations is the "2 women. " It's important for all mongers to be aware of the fact that a third individual always puts you at a disadvantage; even if you are vigilant, it can be hard to track two people. The biggest thing to always keep track of to avoid these situations is where your drink is. Act like any woman does in the clubs nowadays; never leave the drink unattended, don't accept a drink from the ladies that you didn't see made, and never feel pressured to drink if you're unsure. You guys should have enough money to buy some extra bottles of water, cans of soda / beer, or vino that you can throw away a drink you have lost track of. It's a tiny price to pay to be smart.

Being honest, the threesome game with strangers is generally a one in a million situation anyway. From my experience, you never get a real PSE, lesbian threesome. You get some weak tag-team without any interaction between the girls where they try to make you bust quickly by switching quickly. It can be fun to get a nice view of a double BJ, but most of the time you just get one girl working you over while the other girl shoves her tits in your face. As many others have recommended, you should partake when you have vetted one girl and ask her to recommend a partner. I've had much better success here with some real fun experiences, though I know this not possible for the weekend warrior. But, in that case, best to be safe and ask for two girls at a casa.

For western bros who really want a good threesome without the legwork, I actually do recommend threesomes with the indy escorts in Toronto / Montreal. The price tag is higher (it's still reasonable compared to the highest class escorts) but I've had a lot of good hits over the years with memorable threesomes, so it's something I find myself splurging on repeatedly when the desire comes up.

[QUOTE=QualitySmut;2924687] I'm still very nervous approaching a woman on the street about the hobby. I welcome any tips. My Spanish is improving but still not great.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about being nervous since we all have to start somewhere. In your case, I would stick to places where it's easier because in street situations like Centro, even Parque Lleras and bars like the one at Hotel M I went to, the norm is for us guys to approach the women. Otherwise in some places, they can be considered harassing customers if they get too aggressive and pushy. While it's nice to get attention from women, I personally don't really like it when some girl I'm not attracted to keeps on me for drinks and / or to pull her back to my room.

So for the nervous dudes, you want to be in a situation where you can be hand held through the process. So anyplace whether in Medellin or elsewhere in the world, it might be a place where there is a mamasan / papasan / manager who could welcome you, introduce you to their pricing structure and then show you a selection of girls. Then you just pick one. This way you don't have to feel nervous about making first moves all the time.

Then once you build confidence, you can start to move up into other venues where it's expected for the guys to make the first moves.

Be carefully drinking generally with women here. Don't let them set the pace. I made a mistake last weekend that was a real wakeup call for me personally, so I'll share. I date a bunch here as well as seeing some pros. Anyway I invited a girl to lunch last Saturday, and also had a date set up that night. Things went really well with the first girl. We got along well, good convo, to the point we went to a bar and were kissing. Eventually the convo turned to going back to my place. I'd told her that I had plans that night and as we were arriving at my place she asked if I was seeing another woman. I admitted yes but that I wanted to spend more time with her as we were getting along. Anyway she said cool and let's order some aguardiente and dance. The mistake I made with her there was letting her set the pace drinking. I was probably being a bit macho but some of these girls can drink and she could dance too. So I let myself get carried away. I was keeping an eye and serving but she was pushing to do another and another shot. Anyway I got pretty drunk with her over a couple hours and was not thinking of the other date at all at that point. She said she wanted to take some pictures with me on my phone and did. Before you know it she's messaging the girl I was supposed to see from my phone saying I'm too drunk to go out and sending her a photo of her and I kissing. I get the feeling she was jealous and wanted to cock block me. But I was pretty clearly played by her. Luckily she didn't steal anything or harm me. But she could have. She even apologized the next day. But my mistake was thinking 1) aguardiente isn't that strong and 2) a little 120 pound woman couldn't outdrink me. Lessons are 1) don't get pressured into drinking heavily here by anyone especially if you don't know them. Colombians love to drink and can apply peer pressure pretty hard. 2) Don't be a dumbass like me and tell a girl you are going on another date after seeing her (women here can be super jealous and sometimes a little crazy). 3) Be careful generally. I've spent a bunch of time in Colombia and generally think I'm pretty safe. But I fuck up from time to time as well. The point is to learn from your mistakes and also the mistakes of others. I've never been robbed here or been in any uncomfortable situations. I've also had some amazing experiences and made some great connections.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2925213] 1) aguardiente isn't that strong and 2) a little 120 pound woman couldn't outdrink me. Lessons are 1) don't get pressured into drinking heavily here by anyone especially if you don't know them. Colombians love to drink and can apply peer pressure pretty hard. 2) Don't be a dumbass like me and tell a girl you are going on another date after seeing her (women here can be super jealous and sometimes a little crazy). 3) Be careful generally. I've spent a bunch of time in Colombia and generally think I'm pretty safe. But I fuck up from time to time as well. The point is to learn from your mistakes and also the mistakes of others. I've never been robbed here or been in any uncomfortable situations. I've also had some amazing experiences and made some great connections.[/QUOTE]I appreciate you sharing that story. It's a great reminder about complacency, which I am often guilty of. In a decade of international trips, I've never had any very serious issues. I was pickpocketed by two girls in the zona of Tijuana. And I think a bar girl stole $40 from my wallet after a session. The common theme in both cases? I was very drunk. I don't learn my lesson though. LOL I party hard with the chicas. It's an important part of the experience for me. I'm a boring guy at home and I let loose when on vacation. I guess it is a risk I just accept. But your story also helps ground me and others on those risks. Thanks for sharing.

Just wanted to add my 2 cents. You should definitely get to know at least one, if not both of the participants in a threesome before doing it and consider going to a motel. I've yet to have a tag team style objectively bad experience. But I'm careful. I've wanted to have a full PSE threesome for a while with anal, girls dping each other with me and a strapon, double BJ with rimming and of course lesbian components. That was an item on my bucket list that I only recently checked off. But I literally knew and had been having sex with both girls for over a year each time I've come here. I knew they were both up for anything. Even then the threesome didn't go perfectly. I bought a strapon combo on rappi that was just low quality and didn't work. But the girls were great. One of them is a squirter and took to the situation better than I'd hoped even. I also had a pretty good one the other night where ID gone out with a girl 3 times and got to know her pretty well. She said she liked threesome and recommended a friend, so we set one up the other night at a motep and it went pretty well. I even liked her friend a little better than her (wilder sexual energy).

[QUOTE=Recondite;2925213]Be carefully drinking generally with women here. Don't let them set the pace. I made a mistake last weekend that was a real wakeup call for me personally, so I'll share. I date a bunch here as well as seeing some pros. Anyway I invited a girl to lunch last Saturday, and also had a date set up that night. Things went really well with the first girl. We got along well, good convo, to the point we went to a bar and were kissing. Eventually the convo turned to going back to my place. I'd told her that I had plans that night and as we were arriving at my place she asked if I was seeing another woman. I admitted yes but that I wanted to spend more time with her as we were getting along. Anyway she said cool and let's order some aguardiente and dance. The mistake I made with her there was letting her set the pace drinking. I was probably being a bit macho but some of these girls can drink and she could dance too. So I let myself get carried away. I was keeping an eye and serving but she was pushing to do another and another shot. Anyway I got pretty drunk with her over a couple hours and was not thinking of the other date at all at that point. She said she wanted to take some pictures with me on my phone and did. Before you know it she's messaging the girl I was supposed to see from my phone saying I'm too drunk to go out and sending her a photo of her and I kissing. I get the feeling she was jealous and wanted to cock block me. But I was pretty clearly played by her. Luckily she didn't steal anything or harm me. But she could have. She even apologized the next day. But my mistake was thinking 1) aguardiente isn't that strong and 2) a little 120 pound woman couldn't outdrink me. Lessons are 1) don't get pressured into drinking heavily here by anyone especially if you don't know them. Colombians love to drink and can apply peer pressure pretty hard. 2) Don't be a dumbass like me and tell a girl you are going on another date after seeing her (women here can be super jealous and sometimes a little crazy). 3) Be careful generally. I've spent a bunch of time in Colombia and generally think I'm pretty safe. But I fuck up from time to time as well. The point is to learn from your mistakes and also the mistakes of others. I've never been robbed here or been in any uncomfortable situations. I've also had some amazing experiences and made some great connections.[/QUOTE]Lesson 4 NEVER EVER let a chica use your phone, PERIOD.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2925213]Don't be a dumbass like me and tell a girl you are going on another date after seeing her (women here can be super jealous and sometimes a little crazy).[/QUOTE]Your girl or a hooker? Not many people would tell their girl they are on the way to see another chick. But a hooker, who gives a rat's ass. If that was the case then all these chicks would not be referring or bringing their friends along. Somebody that I am paying can not play a jealous card. That sounds weird.

[QUOTE=Recondite;2925213]Be careful drinking generally with women here. Don't let them set the pace. I made a mistake last weekend that was a real wakeup call for me personally, so I'll share. I date a bunch here as well as seeing some pros. Anyway I invited a girl to lunch last Saturday, and also had a date set up that night. Things went really well with the first girl. We got along well, good convo, to the point we went to a bar and were kissing. Eventually the convo turned to going back to my place. I'd told her that I had plans that night and as we were arriving at my place she asked if I was seeing another woman. I admitted yes but that I wanted to spend more time with her as we were getting along. Anyway she said cool and let's order some aguardiente and dance. The mistake I made with her there was letting her set the pace drinking. I was probably being a bit macho but some of these girls can drink and she could dance too. So I let myself get carried away. I was keeping an eye and serving but she was pushing to do another and another shot. Anyway I got pretty drunk with her over a couple hours and was not thinking of the other date at all at that point. She said she wanted to take some pictures with me on my phone and did. Before you know it she's messaging the girl I was supposed to see from my phone saying I'm too drunk to go out and sending her a photo of her and I kissing. I get the feeling she was jealous and wanted to cock block me. But I was pretty clearly played by her. Luckily she didn't steal anything or harm me. But she could have. She even apologized the next day. But my mistake was thinking 1) aguardiente isn't that strong and 2) a little 120 pound woman couldn't outdrink me. Lessons are 1) don't get pressured into drinking heavily here by anyone especially if you don't know them. Colombians love to drink and can apply peer pressure pretty hard. 2) Don't be a dumbass like me and tell a girl you are going on another date after seeing her (women here can be super jealous and sometimes a little crazy). 3) Be careful generally. I've spent a bunch of time in Colombia and generally think I'm pretty safe. But I fuck up from time to time as well. The point is to learn from your mistakes and also the mistakes of others. I've never been robbed here or been in any uncomfortable situations. I've also had some amazing experiences and made some great connections.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Recondite;2925213] Just wanted to add my 2 cents. You should definitely get to know at least one, if not both of the participants in a threesome before doing it and consider going to a motel. I've yet to have a tag team style objectively bad experience. But I'm careful. I've wanted to have a full PSE threesome for a while with anal, girls dping each other with me and a strapon, double BJ with rimming and of course lesbian components. That was an item on my bucket list that I only recently checked off. But I literally knew and had been having sex with both girls for over a year each time I've come here. I knew they were both up for anything. Even then the threesome didn't go perfectly. I bought a strapon combo on rappi that was just low quality and didn't work. But the girls were great. One of them is a squirter and took to the situation better than I'd hoped even. I also had a pretty good one the other night where ID gone out with a girl 3 times and got to know her pretty well. She said she liked threesome and recommended a friend, so we set one up the other night at a motep and it went pretty well. I even liked her friend a little better than her (wilder sexual energy).[/QUOTE]I just don't get it. You are drinking with some girl you "know" how well? Why on earth are you drinking? If she wants to drink, great, let her. How many times are we going to read that another "gringo" got drugged and maybe killed after drinking with some girl he knew for about 5 minutes?

I know, you're careful. But do you have any idea how little time it takes for her to spike your drink? Or maybe as she finishes her drink she spikes her empty glass and when you are done she just switches glasses with you as you refill them.

I tell people who are visiting that if you "have to" drink do it after you finish your session. There is a gringo bar at the St. Peter in Laureles or several others in Poblado. Just don't drink with girls here unless you know them, have been to their house or their family home. It borders on sheer lunacy.

Now your advice on Trios is well done. I had my first "trio" here on my first visit 7 years ago. It was a disaster. I didn't know either girl and it was supidity. Since then, I have done as you suggested. I have had a few excellent trios. I knew one girl well (3 or more sessions together) and she recommended a "friend" I made it a requirement to session with the friend first, to make sure I would enjoy her company as well. Even so, you want to be very alert because one girl is roaming while you are in flagrante delicto with the other.

Here is what I do when a chica comes over to my airbnb (always with security). I ask if they want a drink and 90% of the time its a yes. So I make one drink and say this is for us to share and then make sure she is drinking from it before I start having some. I have already been kissing her so no issue with sharing. We both drink from the same glass for the evening and I don't worry too much about it. I also don't get shit faced.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;2925086]Don't worry about being nervous since we all have to start somewhere. In your case, I would stick to places where it's easier because in street situations like Centro, even Parque Lleras and bars like the one at Hotel M I went to, the norm is for us guys to approach the women. Otherwise in some places, they can be considered harassing customers if they get too aggressive and pushy. While it's nice to get attention from women, I personally don't really like it when some girl I'm not attracted to keeps on me for drinks and / or to pull her back to my room.

So for the nervous dudes, you want to be in a situation where you can be hand held through the process. So anyplace whether in Medellin or elsewhere in the world, it might be a place where there is a mamasan / papasan / manager who could welcome you, introduce you to their pricing structure and then show you a selection of girls. Then you just pick one. This way you don't have to feel nervous about making first moves all the time.

Then once you build confidence, you can start to move up into other venues where it's expected for the guys to make the first moves.[/QUOTE]You were there once for three days and are now an expert, giving advice to others?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2925273]I just don't get it. You are drinking with some girl you "know" how well? Why on earth are you drinking?[/QUOTE]I said the same thing yesterday but it did not get posted. Someone said that all these druggings have 2 women in common. No they don't. They have drinking in common.

Even another brother said he was with one girl he thought he knew well and left his drink alone for one minute while he went out on the balcony to check on the steaks. The lone girl got him.

I do not understand why people insist they they have to drink something when it comes to fucking a chick. If she is coming to fuck, then get to fucking. Find someone else to be your drinking buddy, whether it is soda, alcohol, or whatever. Shit I tell chicks they have to work up a thirst first anyway before they get a drink from me.

Not a hooker. She's a girl I met and asked out to lunch. At this point I spend as much or more time looking for nonpros as pros. As you said prepagos don't care about that stuff. Hell I've got a couple amigas with derechas that know about other girls I see and don't get pissed.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2925238]Your girl or a hooker? Not many people would tell their girl they are on the way to see another chick. But a hooker, who gives a rat's ass. If that was the case then all these chicks would not be referring or bringing their friends along. Somebody that I am paying can not play a jealous card. That sounds weird.[/QUOTE]