Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;3024435]600 SGD is over 460 USD at the current exchange rate. For me, no fucking way man, I can stay home in the USA get similar prices without flying half way across the world. But, to each his own.[/QUOTE]Before COVID I had a SB in Singapore for SGD 350. No particular time limit, multi hour dates. She had a proper corporate day job and I knew where she worked and lived also. I don't know what the prices are now as I stopped playing in Singapore and just fly 1.5 hrs to Jakarta where Seeking is a goldmine of willing young girls ranging from free to 2 m IDR ($125) per night.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3024514]Have noticed the white girls in my area want more money and are harder to get into my stable, than the mixed or black girls. I am white. I now have 3 black girls I can do, as I please, and only 1 white girl. This is raw data. I am not sure what it means. Maybe the black girls are more attracted to white guys?

I also note there are more women with kids who need $$. They are not getting money from their babys daddy. The single ones with no kids want more money, are generally in better shape physically, and are less willing to meet and fuck.

Not sure if others have notices the data.[/QUOTE]I think this is pretty much spot on. A lot of the ones here going on and on about how great Seeking is regularly leave out these important findings and realities. If you're looking for cute, "girl next door", American white girls that's going to be much, much, [B]much[/B] harder to find on Seeking with any kind of steady success.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3024514]Have noticed the white girls in my area want more money and are harder to get into my stable, than the mixed or black girls. I am white. I now have 3 black girls I can do, as I please, and only 1 white girl. This is raw data. I am not sure what it means. Maybe the black girls are more attracted to white guys?

I also note there are more women with kids who need $$. They are not getting money from their babys daddy. The single ones with no kids want more money, are generally in better shape physically, and are less willing to meet and fuck.

Not sure if others have notices the data.[/QUOTE]Yep. No question. More entitled white girls with GPS! 90% of my US seeking girls have been black / mixed / latina. Fortunately my tastes skew that way.

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;3024272]Men have always been in competition with other men. But in the USA, it's starting to feel like men are in a conflict with women. Very few people seem to be proposing solutions; both sides are just hurling insults and blaming each other. Have we reached the point of no return yet?[/QUOTE]Nah, that is not what I am talking about. It is not that I hate women or see them as competition. It is the difference between what women say, their bullshit, and reality, and I have not seen a woman tell men / the world the truth.

[QUOTE=VanessasClient;3024272]Welcome to humanity; where motivation generally arises from selfishness and greed. But, a portion of that comes from the human brain. Wrong forum to be having this discussion.[/QUOTE]Nah, we just had a question from a guy on how men get away with traveling and not getting caught.

So we have been told about women and men "loving me and just me for the way I am" right? And if he cheats on me, they are out of there. That is bullshit from what I have seen in the real world.

And Pearl sees the same thing. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/g9-zQhs5IH8[/URL]

70% of women have been cheated on and 80% of women stayed. In fact, when women left the man, was very often when the man tried to be loyal.

What gets me is when men get all moral about this instead of just asking women when women groan on about being cheated on, did you leave him? If not, you should not care. If women left men all the time men cheated, men would not do it. But men play into this notion of women always being the victim.

And then we have the why.

Women abuse men when the women think they are the only source of sex for that man.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/shorts/n0B997Pehy0[/URL]

If you listen to women's bullshit, being cheated on is the worst thing in the world. If you look at their behavior, they are literally creating incentives for men to cheat because they treat men like shit when men are being loyal.

The real reason women go on about getting cheated on is that it brings them attention and also financial reward from the guy "making up" for cheating.

[QUOTE=ExpatAmerican;3024518]Before COVID I had a SB in Singapore for SGD 350. No particular time limit, multi hour dates. She had a proper corporate day job and I knew where she worked and lived also. I don't know what the prices are now as I stopped playing in Singapore and just fly 1.5 hrs to Jakarta where Seeking is a goldmine of willing young girls ranging from free to 2 m IDR ($125) per night.[/QUOTE]So I heard this among other members of the forum as well and have read few posts around SA in Jakarta which has got me very curious. Is it actually more easy to score with GND type? I usually look for SBs who are non pros and do SA on the side, they in my opinion provide the best GFE.

From my experience SA is consolidated online diary of pro & semi-pro WGs who either operate independently or via agencies sorting their advance bookings.

There is also a huge collection of single-mums looking for cashrich dads and of course sugar dating.

Overall, it is great playground if you are willing to spend & invest time with the above categories.

For casual hookups and one night stands, I still prefer a crowded bar / club face2 face chat up and try your luck by aiming no one and more importantly, take it easy on failed nights.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;3024514]Have noticed the white girls in my area want more money and are harder to get into my stable, than the mixed or black girls. I am white. I now have 3 black girls I can do, as I please, and only 1 white girl. This is raw data. I am not sure what it means. Maybe the black girls are more attracted to white guys?[/QUOTE]Black women have the hardest time on dating apps or websites among women. There's studies and data out there that backs this up, so they are less flaky and more receptive to arrangements. White women, especially American, have been told by the western media that they're the gold standard and have inflated egos that are always looking for the next best thing, so they ignore great opportunities in front of them then will blame men when their strategy ultimately fails.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3024558]I think this is pretty much spot on. A lot of the ones here going on and on about how great Seeking is regularly leave out these important findings and realities. If you're looking for cute, "girl next door", American white girls that's going to be much, much, [B]much[/B] harder to find on Seeking with any kind of steady success.[/QUOTE]Yeah, the hot women are making money on line. The fact that so few women make money on only fans made me question the online game, but what is happening is women doing podcasts, getting sponsors, getting superchat donations, and then promoting some kind of special group or online service. And yes, the hot white women are most in demand and are now making bank.

The ultimate was Sadia Khan. She is a Pakistani women who came off as white, has high cheekbones, speaks in a British accent, and says IMO things that are no more profound than could be found at a hair salon. Her thing was how to get a "high value" woman like me and charged men $8000 an hour to hear her spiel about acting like a "high value" man. Well, she has been busted. She is just some side piece to a married guy and in private talks as trashy as a Brooklyn maid.

I talked with an old SB who became the hottest escort in town, and she had a side gig helping women get started in the biz. There was this hot black girl. The old SB admitted she had the best body of her group but there just was not as much demand for her as other women because of her skin color.

When black women nag or tell men what to do, I do not know why, but it is viscerally more annoying. The victim act that you see white women do on social media so often just does not work with them.

And then the other thing is the college con is going on. Women are in huge debt from college getting worthless degrees. 2/3 of student debt is owned now by women, and the race that makes up percentage wise the most debt is black women. So yeah, because of these head winds, there are more black women in the game, and the quality of said women IMO is higher. Body wise and sexually speaking, the black women were some of my best and most appreciative SBs.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3024558]I think this is pretty much spot on. A lot of the ones here going on and on about how great Seeking is regularly leave out these important findings and realities. If you're looking for cute, "girl next door", American white girls that's going to be much, much, [B]much[/B] harder to find on Seeking with any kind of steady success.[/QUOTE]Actually, I could do another 26-year-old white woman I met on SDM website, but she is persnickety, expects me to fit her schedule of only Mondays, had saggy tits due to weight loss, flabby ass, way more tattoos than meaningful, body piercings in her nose, etc.

Of the 3 black girls I have in my stable, one is mixed, native American Indian and black, with kinky hair. 26-year-old but has 5 kids! Yes, count them, 5. And gets no child support but spent $70 she did not have to get her nails done. I fucked her last week, but she refused my request for her to shower when she was sticky, and I had to fuck her during her first day of period, and blood on Mr. Happy made me not a happy wiener. She may be kicked to the road.

The white girls in general are more fussy, overpriced, or overweight much more than their photos show. They typically ask for $500+ for an affection session. The darker women are cheaper, though not much. 200 to 400 a session.

I also notice I get texted by these girls on the first of each month, or soon thereafter, when their rent is due. When they are annoying, I block their number and leave them alone until I get horny.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3024569]Nah, that is not what I am talking about. It is not that I hate women or see them as competition. It is the difference between what women say, their bullshit, and reality, and I have not seen a woman tell men / the world the truth.[/QUOTE]There's a distinct difference between competition and conflict. A position opens up at a cyber security firm, and the job is posted on Indeed. In a single day, the company receives 500 applications. All those people who sent in resumes want that role, but only ONE of them will get it. All 500 of them are in competition with each other. They are fighting over the same thing. The same goal, all trying to upstage each other. In male to male competition, we try to out do each for female tail. We try to wear the nicer suit and more expensive watch than the guy a few seats down at the bar, or try to smooth talk better than the next guy online who is talking to the same girl. That's competition; trying to one up someone else on a similar plane, for the same objective.

Conflict is overt hostility. There's a conflict going on right now between Israel and Palestine. In the USA, people of various kinds, often get on platforms like Tiktok and Youtube, and take to bashing the other gender, over their real, or sometimes perceived "grievances. " They aren't pushing for the same goal, trying to run faster than their neighbor.

The real problem in the USA, is that most women, particularly ones of the age that I would want to have sex with, which is at least 18, but under 40, have turned the dating market into a capitalist scenario. Capitalism might have some advantages in an economic system, but for the dating market, it's horrific conundrum beyond any measure, but most especially for men. Women, delusional or not, know what they want, but they are struggling to get it. Increasingly more so during the past decade, if you were to compare 2025 to say, maybe even 2010. So they are starting to become unhappier with this system they built, that they thought would bring them "good" quality men. Or whatever goddamn reason they organized and built this capitalist dating market. Or, at least decided to allow themselves to be influenced into believing this idea would be good for the romantic aspect of their lives.

As for me getting involved with foreign women. Now that I know the difference, I wouldn't have it any other way. I like practicing new languages, and learning about other cultures. It brings a level of intrigue to the date that you would not get with dating a woman native to your own country.

Granted that older American women tend to be a more level headed, they are too unsightly to fuck.

I would have this to say to all of the "little rats" that we call the typical American women: You might spend your entire life searching for perfection, only to discover just prior to death that you never found it. I think it's a little too late to turn back if you are 80 years old and laying in a hospital bed, waiting for fade to black. That's because you were searching for the wrong thing the whole time. *sticks tongue out in utter disrespect*.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;3024680]When black women nag or tell men what to do, I do not know why, but it is viscerally more annoying. The victim act that you see white women do on social media so often just does not work with them..[/QUOTE]I have not bagged a lot of black women. Only a few. But I have to say my experience was different. Social media is filled with black fatigue videos, mostly of black women 30-50 acting like Karens on steroids.

But on seeking? All of the black chicks I've met have been sweet to the point of submissive. Part of me thinks it's almost a pendulum swing in the opposite direction. Like they had fewer boundaries and just wanted to please and make the date worth it from my end.

When you are travelling abroad, SA is a good tool to get connected with semi-pros and pros.

However, a tool is only as good as its users, its consumers!

Never expect you will find that 'gem' of a babe from SA to feel the cosmic vibration when you go inside her.

You are simply wasting your time.

For those who are good in organizing your own time, the maximum you may get is a free dinner date but that too very rarely from pros WGs.

Pro-WGs knows their time is better earned at those men who throw cash for meat than meet for a meal to build chemistry!

Everything has a hidden price-tag attached by default when you get a response in SA.

The smarter you are, you will sense them quicker and will learn to avoid!

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;3024849]I have not bagged a lot of black women. Only a few. But I have to say my experience was different. Social media is filled with black fatigue videos, mostly of black women 30-50 acting like Karens on steroids.

But on seeking? All of the black chicks I've met have been sweet to the point of submissive. Part of me thinks it's almost a pendulum swing in the opposite direction. Like they had fewer boundaries and just wanted to please and make the date worth it from my end.[/QUOTE]Same here. I've seen quite a few black girls on seeking. And they have been sweet and submissive and head game has been on point without exception! I do think there is something to what you say. Once you weed out the pros a lot of these girls have daddy issues and therefore want to please. Yes maam. Works for me.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;3024849]IBut on seeking? All of the black chicks I've met have been sweet to the point of submissive. Part of me thinks it's almost a pendulum swing in the opposite direction. Like they had fewer boundaries and just wanted to please and make the date worth it from my end.[/QUOTE]So have I.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;3024849]But I have to say my experience was different. Social media is filled with black fatigue videos, mostly of black women 30-50 acting like Karens on steroids.[/QUOTE]Sure, but the black women (with some exceptions I am sure) unlike the white ones are not making bank on social media, and that is why IMO there are more quality black women on seeking than white ones. That is just my opinion and what I have noticed.

As for why that is, check out this clip of former porn star Jenna Presley. This is the exact kind of woman you might have seen on seeking 10 or 15 years ago. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSdxa5gm5qQ[/URL]

Now Pearl intellectually speaking blows this chick out of the water. What shocks me is how much Pressley takes it and only rarely goes into Karen mode. Of course, I know how full of shit Pressley is but part of me emotionally and irrationally is rooting for her. I do not know if it is the high cheek bones, the act of regret, or the soothing voice but she has literally gone from selling porn to selling Jesus and been successful at it.

Could a black woman pull off this con? Maybe, but I have not seen it.

Time=money.

Mongering=money.

So Mongering=Time!

In the context of Seeking, every other girl on it wants to make quick bucks by discussing 'terms'.

Very few are prepared to invest time, looking for just frustrated men out there willing to throw cash for meat.

Am happy a happy go lucky person willing to splurge on the right girl, provided there is a mutual connection after the first meet.

Am now convinced It is seldom luck finding such rare gems looking for genuine connection and a lust formation, 'forgetting' the money element for at least one meeting.

That is the sole reason I quit Seeking.

Blame is on me for not having enough time to scroll thru umpteen profies showing knickers and bra!!

[QUOTE=TwentyTwoTwos;3024152]I'm completely new to this but how do you guys find so much time to be away from your wives to pursue other interests? Even as much as spend time overseas by yourselves and monger?[/QUOTE]