[QUOTE=Recondite;2925439]amigas with derechas[/QUOTE]Is that the same as "friends with benefits"? I think all non-incarcerated people have rights. Even those incarcerated have some rights.
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[QUOTE=Recondite;2925439]amigas with derechas[/QUOTE]Is that the same as "friends with benefits"? I think all non-incarcerated people have rights. Even those incarcerated have some rights.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;2925469]Is that the same as "friends with benefits"? I think all non-incarcerated people have rights. Even those incarcerated have some rights.[/QUOTE]Amigos con derechos. Or Amigas con derechos. Derecho is a noun meaning "rights" as in human rights, and also means straight (as in straight ahead). So it is a masculine noun and doesn't change when used in either male or female context (as it would if it were an adjective). Derecha is used in the sense of right and left. A la derecha for "on the right".
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2925503]Amigos con derechos. Or Amigas con derechos. Derecho is a noun meaning "rights" as in human rights, and also means straight (as in straight ahead). So it is a masculine noun and doesn't change when used in either male or female context (as it would if it were an adjective). Derecha is used in the sense of right and left. A la derecha for "on the right".[/QUOTE]Like FunLuvr I also didn't understand the meaning of "friends with rights". I googled in Spanish and it means (in English) an open relationship. So yes as he thought "friends with benefits". I guess when you get into a monogamous relationship in latin america you lose your "rights". They are ahead of us with this lingo jaja and maybe explains why so many of us have never been married.
So I was cursing this rain10 to 12 am gustos was empty. 5 Uggos and maybe like 13 dudes. Left for glow and that was so much better.
My buddy got quoted 700 k toda la niche. Talent was low or mediocre and the rain was not stopping so no new talent. Went to gusto at 1 am to see if it was better. Wow gusto is so empty so I hopped back to glow. Had a chick for back up in case everything failed BUT!
Last time I was here I got a contact from gusto. Who quoted me insane prices. Cause you know gusto.
Well I reached out to her and she agreed to 300 k hour and all night 700 k if we had good chemistry. Always the phrasing I use.
Anyway guys this is huge.
Couple rules here are.
Clubs are just for what's app contacts.
Use mid week and rain to your advantage. I would write more but waiting for her now.
I wanted to post my drinking story so others can learn from it. I realize I made some mistakes and it made me think. On reflection a final thing that is important is that nonpros are just as big a risk if not bigger sometimes than pros. It's something I've known intellectually for a while based off the drugging cases. But I think I have an unconcious bias for trusting pros less easily and nonpros more easily. Anyway, the point is for others to hopefully learn from my experience. The smartest move is to not drink with girls. It's also smartest to not trust anyone ever or at least for a long time. But the name of the game with this hobby is risk management and choosing the level of risk you are comfortable with. After all, if you want to be 100% safe and have a completely safe sex life, stay in your house in your home country and mastrubate with a helmet on in case you fall.
I meant friends with benefits when using amigos con derechos. As you pointed out I made a grammatical mistake. My Spanish is very good but by no means perfect.
[QUOTE=Recondite;2925601]I wanted to post my drinking story so others can learn from it. I realize I made some mistakes and it made me think. On reflection a final thing that is important is that nonpros are just as big a risk if not bigger sometimes than pros.[/QUOTE]Honestly, you just did something monumentally stupid and that's it. It's literally dating 101 to not tell girls you're seeing that you there are other girls in the mix. If the girl is a non-pro, treat it like you would if you were dating a normie back home, which is to keep everything separate until you're ready to commit to one girl or if you're good with the girl seeing other dudes on the side. Truthfully, it's disrespectful to your date to go see another chick a few hours later, so keep it to yourself. Most girls, everywhere on Earth, are not going to feel good about going on a date with a guy that is going to bang another chick later that night.
For any guy that is trying to date and go after non-pros in Colombia, don't expect the girls to accept you walking around as a playboy, hitting on every girl, being unfaithful, etc. Just because you open up your wallet from time to time. Stick with the pros; get a stable of girls who know what's going on, understand the pfp arrangement, and are less likely to catch serious feelings. As is the case with women all across the world, once they catch those feelings, that relationship has changed irreparably.
[QUOTE=Recondite;2925601]I wanted to post my drinking story so others can learn from it. I realize I made some mistakes and it made me think. On reflection a final thing that is important is that nonpros are just as big a risk if not bigger sometimes than pros. It's something I've known intellectually for a while based off the drugging cases. But I think I have an unconcious bias for trusting pros less easily and nonpros more easily. Anyway, the point is for others to hopefully learn from my experience. The smartest move is to not drink with girls. It's also smartest to not trust anyone ever or at least for a long time. But the name of the game with this hobby is risk management and choosing the level of risk you are comfortable with. After all, if you want to be 100% safe and have a completely safe sex life, stay in your house in your home country and mastrubate with a helmet on in case you fall.
I meant friends with benefits when using amigos con derechos. As you pointed out I made a grammatical mistake. My Spanish is very good but by no means perfect.[/QUOTE]I didn't mean to be a grammer cop, but I mixed those two words up in using taxis in Medellin. The use "derecho" to say straight ahead, and "a la derecha" for a right hand turn. So the distinction can help you direct your taxi or have you not turning when you should, or going straight when you meant turn. And "amigos con derechos" is a whole other can of worms. LOL.
[QUOTE=Recondite;2925601]I wanted to post my drinking story so others can learn from it. I realize I made some mistakes and it made me think. On reflection a final thing that is important is that nonpros are just as big a risk if not bigger sometimes than pros. It's something I've known intellectually for a while based off the drugging cases. But I think I have an unconcious bias for trusting pros less easily and nonpros more easily. Anyway, the point is for others to hopefully learn from my experience. The smartest move is to not drink with girls. It's also smartest to not trust anyone ever or at least for a long time. But the name of the game with this hobby is risk management and choosing the level of risk you are comfortable with. After all, if you want to be 100% safe and have a completely safe sex life, stay in your house in your home country and mastrubate with a helmet on in case you fall.
I meant friends with benefits when using amigos con derechos. As you pointed out I made a grammatical mistake. My Spanish is very good but by no means perfect.[/QUOTE]Not to drink with girls is the right call. You can always drink with your buddies or alone or after she leaves. You should be survive 1 to 2 hours without drinking. The girls can drink all they want.
If I get thirsty, I usually have a few water bottles in my refrigerator and I drink from one and then put it back in the refrigerator among the 2 or 4 already there so you can't really tell which bottle I am drinking from.
As for sharing the same drink, as soon as she drinks from it, she can easily drug it when you don't pay attention and then when you drink from it, it's over. Definitely not a great strategy at all.
Stay safe. Don't drink with your girl. Go out later with your buddies or alone.
[QUOTE=Recondite;2925601]On reflection a final thing that is important is that nonpros are just as big a risk if not bigger sometimes than pros. [/QUOTE]What is your definition of nonpros? Mine is chicks that are not hookers and are not expecting money after having sex. With my definition, I have been through more nonpros in Colombia than a little bit over the last 20 years. I would say my risk of being drugged from them was zero. This is normal chicks with normal jobs and families. I am not speaking of someone that has popped out of the barrio with a bunch of tattoos ready to party and only wants "taxi money". I am talking about someone that has to be at work or school tomorrow morning at 8 am.
Very true. In my very slight defense, I didn't volunteer the info to her that I was seeing someone else. I just told her I had plans. Later, she asked me point blank are you seeing someone else and I admitted I was. I don't love lying, but probably should have in that case. I tend to stack dates because girls do flake or sometimes the girl is boring or not a good match and you want to bail as well. After all, I'm visiting, not living here, and I only have so much time. I did have a GF in Medellin for a while and while I was with her I didn't do shit with any other women. So I'm serious and very respectful when I like someone. But I like to say that dating is a numbers game until it isn't.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2925603]Honestly, you just did something monumentally stupid and that's it. It's literally dating 101 to not tell girls you're seeing that you there are other girls in the mix. If the girl is a non-pro, treat it like you would if you were dating a normie back home, which is to keep everything separate until you're ready to commit to one girl or if you're good with the girl seeing other dudes on the side. Truthfully, it's disrespectful to your date to go see another chick a few hours later, so keep it to yourself. Most girls, everywhere on Earth, are not going to feel good about going on a date with a guy that is going to bang another chick later that night.
For any guy that is trying to date and go after non-pros in Colombia, don't expect the girls to accept you walking around as a playboy, hitting on every girl, being unfaithful, etc. Just because you open up your wallet from time to time. Stick with the pros; get a stable of girls who know what's going on, understand the pfp arrangement, and are less likely to catch serious feelings. As is the case with women all across the world, once they catch those feelings, that relationship has changed irreparably.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zeos1;2925607]I didn't mean to be a grammer cop, but I mixed those two words up in using taxis in Medellin. The use "derecho" to say straight ahead, and "a la derecha" for a right hand turn. So the distinction can help you direct your taxi or have you not turning when you should, or going straight when you meant turn. And "amigos con derechos" is a whole other can of worms. LOL.[/QUOTE]Amigas con beneficios would be what I would say. To avoid confusing right and straight ahead, a lot of Spanish speakers use 'derechito' for straight ahead.
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Well I reached out to her and she agreed to 300 k hour and all night 700 k if we had good chemistry. Always the phrasing I use.
Anyway guys this is huge.
Couple rules here are.
Clubs are just for what's app contacts.
[/QUOTE]Right on. That's never failed me going to places like Gustos. Get their WhatApp and contact them the next day and 300 k or less is no problem. If you absolutely have to do them that night when you meet them in the club, you'll likely have to pay up.
I also like the way you told her you'd do all night for X amount if you had good chemistry. Test drive short time is always a good idea before committing to more time together.
[URL]https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amigos_con_derechos[/URL]
Amigos con derechos is the commonly used term in many parts of latam. My mistake was gender-based I. E. Derechas instead of derechos.
[QUOTE=Huacho;2925707]Amigas con beneficios would be what I would say. To avoid confusing right and straight ahead, a lot of Spanish speakers use 'derechito' for straight ahead.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Recondite;2925759][URL]https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amigos_con_derechos[/URL]
Amigos con derechos is the commonly used term in many parts of latam. My mistake was gender-based I. E. Derechas instead of derechos.[/QUOTE]Understood. I've heard both, as well as amigos sin compromiso (s). You can see from the movie title translations, it's pretty regional. The 'a roce' part, guessing you would not hear that outside of Spain.
[QUOTE=Recondite;2925213]Be carefully drinking generally with women here. Don't let them set the pace. I made a mistake last weekend that was a real wakeup call for me personally, so I'll share. I date a bunch here as well as seeing some pros. Anyway I invited a girl to lunch last Saturday, and also had a date set up that night. Things went really well with the first girl. We got along well, good convo, to the point we went to a bar and were kissing. Eventually the convo turned to going back to my place. I'd told her that I had plans that night and as we were arriving at my place she asked if I was seeing another woman. I admitted yes but that I wanted to spend more time with her as we were getting along. Anyway she said cool and let's order some aguardiente and dance. The mistake I made with her there was letting her set the pace drinking. I was probably being a bit macho but some of these girls can drink and she could dance too. So I let myself get carried away. I was keeping an eye and serving but she was pushing to do another and another shot. Anyway I got pretty drunk with her over a couple hours and was not thinking of the other date at all at that point. She said she wanted to take some pictures with me on my phone and did. Before you know it she's messaging the girl I was supposed to see from my phone saying I'm too drunk to go out and sending her a photo of her and I kissing. I get the feeling she was jealous and wanted to cock block me. But I was pretty clearly played by her. Luckily she didn't steal anything or harm me. But she could have. She even apologized the next day. But my mistake was thinking 1) aguardiente isn't that strong and 2) a little 120 pound woman couldn't outdrink me. Lessons are 1) don't get pressured into drinking heavily here by anyone especially if you don't know them. Colombians love to drink and can apply peer pressure pretty hard. 2) Don't be a dumbass like me and tell a girl you are going on another date after seeing her (women here can be super jealous and sometimes a little crazy). 3) Be careful generally. I've spent a bunch of time in Colombia and generally think I'm pretty safe. But I fuck up from time to time as well. The point is to learn from your mistakes and also the mistakes of others. I've never been robbed here or been in any uncomfortable situations. I've also had some amazing experiences and made some great connections.[/QUOTE]I don't think you made any mistakes. When I feel the vibe I just go with the flow and enjoy it. However I never get totally drunk and always fully aware of what's going on. The fact that you did that, I'd say that's enough and same thing with instincts as you can tell who's a decent / normal girl vs a sneaky one that would rob you. Most guys who get drugged to tell the tale usually admits they themselves noticed the red flags and ignored them. Didn't sound like you noticed any major flags.
The pic sending thing is normal, LOL. Seriously girls are petty and they do that. If anything that'll get you more play as your 2nd date will know you have options. It is a thing.
Even with all the bad news locally you still have to enjoy your life a bit. Live with no regrets, just control the odds a bit more next time and your straight. Back in town this Weekend and my wives are all line up LOL. Lets go!!