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I'm seeing girls me and my buddies $40 to smash years ago being taken out to France and Switzerland for fancy trips. Are y'all really taking girls who have triple digit body counts to fancy trips around the world? What is wrong with you guys? I texted a few and they said they'd see me as soon as they get back. Wow!
[QUOTE=GeorgeCarta22;2926676]Excited to be back so I jumped on the opportunity.
Started off the night by going to loutron. I think it was 480. Was stick between 3 girls and had to re ask. The last girl I had here (sofia who is a complete stunner) was also there but she was mechanical. I shouldve realized they were all mechanical. Regretted my choice. I honestly forget the girls who name I chose. I think she was from Bogota and althoguht she had huge tits her nips were busted (huge aeriolas if you like that) and very business. Wanted 100 k more for anal or bb but that wasnt my thing. Still a fun time still a great line up. Went early around 6 or 7. Talked to a guy who told us to avoid energy and new life as girls were uggos there. Kinda the same reviews as the forum here. Again I had limited time and didn't want to waste it so I opted out of those places for my trip. (yes I understand theres some nice ones there) but yeah I don't have time.[/QUOTE]Nice report! I was surprised though to read you had a mechanical experience with Sofia, been a couple of times with her and she's always been super passionate with me. But I know she's also really hardcore, definitely not a newbie in the game. I guess like always YMMV with any chica.
And yeah La Isla is weird, been told to 'go to the corner' myself at some times too, but most of the times they just let me sit anywhere as long as they see me drinking I guess. As I go there alone mostly I hate to buy a whole bottle of rum, I mostly just buy a beer or 3-4 and most of the times they seem ok with it. I think once they know you and they know you buy at least a few drinks, they're ok with it.
[QUOTE=JohnnieCash;2926777]Botero park / plaza is not where you find most of the SWs, there is usually a couple but you need to go further south around Veracruz church. 40-50 mil + room 10 mil / half h (there are longer time hotels around if needed). Around 8 pm on Friday some start preparing to leave for Lleras but it's still not abandoned and plenty of life. Depends on weather too. Saturday daytime is where there is most girls there, especially if it's the end of the month (payday) and mid-month payday. As for clubs, in Hilton I ever paid 70-80 mil max. Nueva Avenida similar. Conejitas more expensive up to 100. Barra 100-120 (best centro club according to some). Last two have the best facilities. Nueva and Grill Occidental the worst (horrible). Hilton in the middle. New Life you definitely went too late, it's a day time place, recognized easily by blue door. You should've probably got the WT69 Medellin mongering google map, would've made finding things and navigation much easier, most of things in Centro are in walking distance really. Great reports, keep them coming.[/QUOTE]Wow, thanks for the info! You just answered all my questions in a single paragraph. Grateful is an understatement!
[QUOTE=Medclubber;2926797]Nice report! I was surprised though to read you had a mechanical experience with Sofia, been a couple of times with her and she's always been super passionate with me. But I know she's also really hardcore, definitely not a newby in the game. I guess like always YMMV with any chica.
And yeah La Isla is weird, been told to 'go to the corner' myself at some times too, but most of the times they just let me sit anywhere as long as they see me drinking I guess. As I go there alone mostly I hate to buy a whole bottle of rum, I mostly just buy a beer or 3-4 and most of the times they seem ok with it. I think once they know you and they know you buy at least a few drinks, they're ok with it.[/QUOTE]Sofia- honestly maybe it wasa ymmv, but I remember she had a lot of rules like no DATY and no DFK which might just be standard loutron. The actual sex was great. She's a 10/10 looks for my so I DP fully regret not picking her again. If I were to go back she would be my pick for sure.
La isla: that's good to know but as someone who doesn't frequent there a lot ill prob never put that in that category. You got to sit anywhere if you ordered a beer? Thats crazy to me, they were so quick to give me boundries it was so insane. I dno my experience with la isla has been so poor. Wondering if I should just do a bottle service one night to see the difference. If any.
[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;2926713]Yes yes yes!
She does not need to know anyone in the club. She could have gone back in and told any local there what happened. That guy would have yelled at 2-3 buddies are even local strangers (very common thing to happen). Then go out and stolen everything on your person and maybe left you requiring medical attention. True there are tons of cameras in that area. If that makes you feel safe you are an idiot. Maybe they follow you to a camera-free area. Maybe the cops do something or do nothing. Then your whole trip would be ruined and you go back to your country because your face is messed up and have to explain to everyone why your A $$ got kicked. You owed her 50,000 at least. YOU messed up letting her walk out with you. Amazing this has to be explained to you.[/QUOTE]I would 'like' your comment if it was an option on the site. Everything you said is exactly right.
[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2926664]so the hotel didn't want to let her come to the room. I did the whole "she's my GF, I booked for 2 people" spiel, and they finally said they would let her in for an additional 100 k. I worked them down to 50 k.[/QUOTE]Very important. Just like girls, you were able to negotiate the visitor fee. The first price was not the final price.
[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2926664]For all I knew, my actual girlfriend could be out of town.[/QUOTE]I do not tell them I am coming either. But I do send a message asking what they are doing.
[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2926664]The good news is I already had a hotel room waiting for us. The bad news. I had just fucked another girl in that hotel room. Gulp!
After showering, we cuddled up and fell asleep. Did she smell the scent of another woman on the bed? Or the smell of freshly used condoms or dental dams?[/QUOTE]Man. Always clean up before you leave the room. You never know when you are coming back or who you are coming back with. I keep a small bottle of febreeze in my toiletry bag to spray on the bed.
[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2926426]My chica began dancing and grinding against me, which I very much enjoyed and made the drink I bought her seem worth it. Soon she proposed going to my hotel for three hours for 1. 2 million pesos. I said how about one hour for 400 k. She countered with 500 k and I kind of shrugged. I said I probably wanted to go to some other clubs first. She said let's go, and I followed her out of the club and downstairs. When we got downstairs, I suggested we go to one of the clubs across the street. She was much more interested in going back to my hotel. [/QUOTE]At the risk of beating a dead horse, I haven't seen anyone state this: The Kapn was negotiating pesos for time. In this instance, he wasn't negotiating per leche. That's no big deal; I never negotiate that way either. But if I make a deal for an amount of pesos for an amount of time, that's exactly what I'm doing. She's agreed to be with me for 3 hours for a payment. If I choose to bang her for 180 minutes, that's what she signed up for. But if I take her to dinner, a movie, a club or any other activity for 180 minutes, I'm saying she has fulfilled her end of the agreement. If she cut it short, then I'd say she's not entitled to the amount. But if the monger just decides to cancel it? Nah.
It seems to me that there was an opportunity for clarity, which the Kapn already acknowledged. Ignoring all the ways this could have gone wrong with locals, I do think if I agree to a price and length, then we've made a deal. I'm not saying Kapn owes her 500 k. But I do think he owes her something for shrugging and following her out.
One last comment here, because we are all suffering from the gringo hatred. Or at least the entitled attitude. But think about this interaction. Girl agrees to get plowed for 500 k. A gringo goes with her, backs out of the deal, and hands her 5 k? We're talking little more than a dollar. I know the conversation devolved and ended poorly and there's more than one person to blame for that. But, it did further cement the gringo impression. I don't know the appropriate amount. 100 k seems too much but handing her a 5 k bill is just borderline insulting.
I'd feel entirely different if the agreement was more clear. And I've done the 'let's go to a different club' approach. But if we come to an agreement of 500 k, unless she fails to hold up her end, I'm on the hook for it. We negotiate time 9 times out of 10.
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[QUOTE=Hobo3;2926783]I'm seeing girls me and my buddies $40 to smash years ago being taken out to France and Switzerland for fancy trips. Are y'all really taking girls who have triple digit body counts to fancy trips around the world? What is wrong with you guys? I texted a few and they said they'd see me as soon as they get back. Wow![/QUOTE]Who cares about the body count or money paid? That girl you smashed for $40 bucks is most likely giving it for free and with real emotion to some no-name scrub who is cleaning trash down at the panaderia. Mongering is about enjoying a moment's time where you get to have an experience (have sex, feel young, wanted, virile, whatever), even if it's fake. She found her worth in the global market, nothing more or less.
The constant humble bragging about how you get it for cheap or free is no less annoying than rich dudes flaunting their ability to buy supermodels. Stop thinking about other dudes and enjoy your own time.
[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2926787]Buying her a drink is a courtesy he chose. She didn't bother him for a drink and I would assume you would buy a girl a drink for a quick chat if you want to pay to bang her.
[/QUOTE]The OP said she asked for a drink. There is no need to buy the girl a drink to just have a few words or initial interview. It's just giving money away to the club. If you want girl to sit and spend time with you, then that is another story.
[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2926664]One thing about this girl, is she knows how to handle me despite her young age. I am the type who has high expectations and can be fairly impatient. She knows how to talk me down whenever I get riled up.[/QUOTE]I would just tell her my requirement in WhatsApp and not in person. Given that she just had a kid, that means she had sex without condom with other men. BBBJ should be default. 300 is a large amount of money if she is not a working girl and needs money. 22 is not young in Medellin.
[QUOTE=Nounce;2926928]I would just tell her my requirement in WhatsApp and not in person. Given that she just had a kid, that means she had sex without condom with other men. BBBJ should be default. 300 is a large amount of money if she is not a working girl and needs money. I won't even pay her that much. 22 is not young in Medellin.[/QUOTE]Well, she claimed she got knocked up by a guy she was in a relationship with who then bailed on her. I believe her. I feel like I am kind of locked in to 300 k at this point, and given her situation, I know it's going to a good cause.
It's a good thing she's only a semi-pro, because I probably wouldn't even have a chance at her if she did it full time. Some rich guy would likely be leaned back in a recliner somewhere in France or Switzerland with his eyes rolling out of the back of his head. This girl has magnificent oral skills.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2926922]Who cares about the body count or money paid? That girl you smashed for $40 bucks is most likely giving it for free and with real emotion to some no-name scrub who is cleaning trash down at the panaderia. Mongering is about enjoying a moment's time where you get to have an experience (have sex, feel young, wanted, virile, whatever), even if it's fake. She found her worth in the global market, nothing more or less.
The constant humble bragging about how you get it for cheap or free is no less annoying than rich dudes flaunting their ability to buy supermodels. Stop thinking about other dudes and enjoy your own time.[/QUOTE]I have personally more than 10 chicas in the past few months who began to travel with their benefactors. The chicas are in Dubai, Turkey and Italy. Couple of them started off in new life and one other centro casa but most come from dating sites and fb. I am amazed at the upward mobility of these chicas. They send me pics of cool resorts off italian coast or from malls in Dubai. I cannot but smile reminiscing the time I spent with them in their barrios in doce Oct. Or popular etc.
I used to feel good taking these chicas from those barrios to bars and restaurants in provenza and envigado. Now some one is taking them to 80 USD drink places in europe. Thats a long way to go.
[QUOTE=TheDerilious;2926922]Who cares about the body count or money paid? That girl you smashed for $40 bucks is most likely giving it for free and with real emotion to some no-name scrub who is cleaning trash down at the panaderia. Mongering is about enjoying a moment's time where you get to have an experience (have sex, feel young, wanted, virile, whatever), even if it's fake. She found her worth in the global market, nothing more or less.
[/QUOTE]What a clown response. Needlessly aggressive way to spew your silly world view. If a guy wants to take a girl who's has a body count in the triple digits on a several thousand dollar trip instead of finding a non-pro that's on him. Don't get all butt hurt because those of us who can take non-pros on trips find it disgusting and utterly sad for some men, that's their only option. I'm not bragging about spending $40. That's what the experience was worth for 15 minutes of pleasure. It's people like you who feel like there's nothing wrong with spending endless amounts of money on pros. You're part of the reason the prices are going up. With your silly "Hey Guys if you want to spend $500 for one night with a girl who's going to bang 5 other guys that week go ahead and do it" nonsense. Not everybody shares your world view, and I don't appreciate you trying to force that pathetic worldview down my throat. Here we all have different perspectives and you should respect that instead of getting butt hurt and telling people how they should see the world.
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