Safe Sex

Anyone who is in this hobby is taking advantage of the fact that there are young, beautiful girls out there that will have sex with us for money.

If you are going to get on a soapbox and preach to others about their immorality because their way of hobbying is different than yours, well that's what I call hypocrisy.

If you want to do things morally, why don't you take the next step and stop taking advantage of those girls who you do business with, and since you won't be hobbying anymore, there will be no reason for you to be on this board, right?

Question:

I am a person who does things that are disgusting to most people and are dangerous to my health. I do these things to pay my bills and provide for myself and my family. I get other people's bodily fluids on me, sometimes on my face, my hair, and even in my eyes and mouth.

Who am I?

As a plumber, I can speak volumes about doing things that most people would not do for any price. Believe me, I could tell you stories that would turn your stomach, easily.

I consider myself the to be the same as these girls in the following respect;

You can hire me to do things that are disgusting to almost anyone, and dangerous to my health. I do these things to pay my bills and better myself. Considering that most will not do what I do for the money that I am paid, I suppose I am being taken advantage of, as well.

And. I deal with people every day who, even though they admit that they wouldn't do what I just did for them for any price, they do anything they can think of to avoid paying me the rates that I quote, and they've agreed to.

Everyone does what they do for their own reasons. Maybe it's best to allow those who do, to make the decisions about what they want to do and how much they will do it for.

Instead of complaining about what others do or don't do, why not clean up your own act?

Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=John Dough]Chlorine Dioxide

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Isn't it amazing how someone can combine some actual science with complete shite.

[quote=opium89]first, let me say that i have read most of the colombia reports over the past few weeks and not once did i read a post on this position. entirely possible i could have missed it but i would have taken notice. the posts i recall on the topic were those of mr. bog's describing in detail his own stupidity and and lame excuse for it.

sorry, if you've heard it before but apparently you have not heard it enough. if you're one that perfoms or condones barebacking then you're a hazard, plain and simple. it's not a judgement call, it's common sense of which you apparently have none. i feel being a human being is justification enough to call this out, as you seem dead-set on contibuting the species demise.

it's not "different minded" people we're talking about here, it's people who are needlessly careless and those who are not. i am sorry, but if you think this is okay, you should be locked far away from society for a long, long time where you could do no harm! you my friend, by either performing or supporting this act puts the lives and healths of so many people at risk it's frightening. i beg you to please do some research on std's and pregnancy statistics, at very least, do a little math!

and again with the number of posts? please spare me the international sex guide poster-elite b/s! peeper? what are you twelve? grow up. [/quote]opium89,

i normally don't reply to posters like you, as it is useless because anyone stand on his opinion and that just go nowhere.

but i'll try once more to explain my position.

you don't understand and strongly disapprove people who go bb?

and so what? do you think that because you say so, insulting them, you will change something? do you think we don't know the risks?

you beg us to make some research?

what if i invite you to do so as well?

please consider a country like usa or colombia or any reasonably developed country, and search how many people died every year from a car accident and compare it with the number of dead people due to aids.

you drive a car don't you?

do we ask to the society to lock you away as you're a potential killer as any car driver?

now think of this too.

how many people are going bb today in my country?

how many people are driving a car today in my country?

now compare mortality statistics.

do you still like maths?

you say that you're a human being? and that give you rights?

man, you must be very young.

ok then. if you're from the usa, you are the first contributor to the global heating of the planet.

now go 3 steps backwards and compare this statement admitted by all the scientific community, and think if this is not more important than fighting against those stupid bb lover?

i urge you, in the name of mankind to stop loosing your time on mongers forum and use your humanity to something really important to the species.

does my small examples allow you to change your vue?

i strongly doubt as you look so convinced of what you think.

for me, you're just shouting with the mob.

in fact, i'm almost sure that you never have made any research on how aids is transmitted. please, do so. don't stay like that, make a search for example at the who site, and look for statistics from people who dedicate their life to aids.

some people are driven by their passions and some others by their fear.

i'd rather be in the first category.

think about your category.

please, respect others. if you don't like what they post on that forum you have 3 reasonable solutions:

1) put them in your ignore list

2) post your opinion without flaming, giving your point of vue and try to understand the others. things are not as simple as you may think they are, and the world is not black or white.

3) stop reading this forum

this is not a flame post. i have no intention to be aggressive. i just try to have you understand a little bit more people who don't think and act as you do.

ricker ans malodr have giving you short and very sensitive points.

menteng has given you his opinion as well.

as he wrote, we have strong reactions posting on bb activity by newbie on the forum (except for winner maybe). others are used to our eccentricities and don't react anymore or they do it in a more friendly way.

i hope this remains here.

keep cool

[QUOTE=Petemcc]Isn't it amazing how someone can combine some actual science with complete shite.[/QUOTE]
I have a feeling that if these guys had really managed to find a cure for hepatitis, AIDS and cancer, it would probably have been mentioned on the news by now!

[QUOTE=Rubber Nursey]I have a feeling that if these guys had really managed to find a cure for hepatitis, AIDS and cancer, it would probably have been mentioned on the news by now![/QUOTE]

No doubt Rubber there is a conspiracy theory somewhere that says they are prevented from revealing their cures to the world because multinational drug companies would lose out, or other such shite!!
Cheers
Pete

"...if you want to do things morally, why don't you take the next step and stop taking advantage of those girls who you do business with, and since you won't be hobbying anymore, there will be no reason for you to be on this board, right?...."

george,

not trying to get into the whole back and forth of this, but quite honestly i never have felt i was taking advantage of a female when i was with her. if thats how i felt about it, i wouldnt get involved in pfp services.

i dont have a problem with prostitution and think it should be legalized everywhere.

i am of the mindset that what two consenting adults do behind closed doors is their business and if they find each other attractive all the more better. as long as i feel with an honest conscience that the woman is not being forced to do anything she doesnt want to do and is of legal age i dont feel like i am taking advantage of anyone. as a matter of fact, if there isnt a bit of chemistry between myself and a girl i move on. i dont consider that taking advantage of anyone whether its pfp or not.

the other side of the coin might say that the girls are taking advantage of their premium looks or personalities to charge more money to guys that cant get laid but hotties very easily ...and can only get laid for free by old, nutcase, fuglies. though some of that might be true too about the pfp girls, i would not accept that as absolute either. for example, in medellin just about any guy on this board could probably meet a relatively young and relatively attractive girl and have a pretty cool relationship with her if they had the time to do it and didnt mind the headaches. however, they might not have the time to get from first base to home plate within a week and really just want to tag homplate a bunch of times in the little time they have down there.....or maybe the guys just are not interested in headaches of relationships but want the female touch. i also dont think the attractive girls should be labeled as immorally taking advantage of the willing mongers because they can get money from the johns when old and fugly ladies cant.

if someone is strung out on drugs, being forced to do something against their will, or **** and didnt want to be doing what she wanted to be doing by her own decision i definetly would not get involved with those situations.

prostitution is much more accepted in other parts of the world than it is in the uptight usa, but quite frankly i see many marriages and relationships that only exist because their is money involved.

i'll leave it at that, but the point of my post is i dont agree with the blanket statement that every monger, myself included, is taking advantage of the girls i do business with.

[quote=opium89]first, let me say that i have read most of the colombia reports over the past few weeks and not once did i read a post on this position. entirely possible i could have missed it but i would have taken notice. the posts i recall on the topic were those of mr. bog's describing in detail his own stupidity and and lame excuse for it.

sorry, if you've heard it before but apparently you have not heard it enough. if you're one that perfoms or condones barebacking then you're a hazard, plain and simple. it's not a judgement call, it's common sense of which you apparently have none. i feel being a human being is justification enough to call this out, as you seem dead-set on contibuting the species demise.

it's not "different minded" people we're talking about here, it's people who are needlessly careless and those who are not. i am sorry, but if you think this is okay, you should be locked far away from society for a long, long time where you could do no harm! you my friend, by either performing or supporting this act puts the lives and healths of so many people at risk it's frightening. i beg you to please do some research on std's and pregnancy statistics, at very least, do a little math!

and again with the number of posts? please spare me the international sex guide poster-elite b/s! peeper? what are you twelve? grow up.[/quote]


it really is pathetic! i regret it, i reacted on your petty posting. i'm glad jackson made things clear now. go and wallow your bigoted views.

This report was posted in the Shanghai thread - just a reminder that there are idiots out there.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=695946&postcount=2797[/url]

Anyway, wanted to post this link as it is a great free resource on STD's and safe sex.

[url]http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/articles/article.aspx?articleId=436[/url]

WGS

What safety measures one can take while doing DATY on professionals?

While I love them just as much as any of you, I still have questions as to why BBBJs are deemed so relatively safe. At the FKKs I have been to, for example, the more popular girls probably have over a dozen sessions a day. That is one reason I have no interest in DFK either.

So why is sticking your dick into a mouth, however beautiful, that has sucked a hundred other dicks that week a relatively safe thing to do?

Does anyone has experience with significant health issues due to BBBJs?

Personally, I make sure to shower immediately afterward, then use some antiseptic solution like Purell. Is this paranoia?

I want to buy some new condoms for my next sex trip i want some confortable with a natural feeling as when you bareback a pussy but i need to protect myself in a country like Ukraine where more 1 percent of all the inhabitants of the country have aids. I enjoy BBBJ and i do it with all girls no problem if they are drug addict or not, i like blowjob without condom and for intercourse it is always covered.

Hi
I always practice safe sex , but even with condom, you can catch for example
Syphilis but it is very rar.
I haver never been tested for Syphilis yet, so maybe it is time now!

I have found a site were you can buy testkits online and make the test anonymus at your home for Syphilis and others
[url]http://atfirstdiagnostic.co.uk/index.html[/url]

Has any other monger been testing this

Regards
BL

[QUOTE=Goodtime Man]While I love them just as much as any of you, I still have questions as to why BBBJs are deemed so relatively safe. At the FKKs I have been to, for example, the more popular girls probably have over a dozen sessions a day. That is one reason I have no interest in DFK either.

So why is sticking your dick into a mouth, however beautiful, that has sucked a hundred other dicks that week a relatively safe thing to do?

Does anyone has experience with significant health issues due to BBBJs?

Personally, I make sure to shower immediately afterward, then use some antiseptic solution like Purell. Is this paranoia?[/QUOTE]
Good question, you can get chlamydia, gonorrhea and herpes from BBBJ, and I don't think you're paranoid, especially if you've got a significant other. I also would be very interested to know if anyone believes they've gotten something that way. Personally, I think I might have gotten something nasty at Eden Club in Bangkok. A couple of women were tag teaming me, and going back and forth between rimming and BBBJ. A couple of months later I end up with a high fever (like 104 degrees F) and can't [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url]. The doctor never came up with a diagnosis though -- just treated me with antibiotics (two weeks of cipro I think) and it went away.


[QUOTE=Great Wall]What safety measures one can take while doing DATY on professionals?[/QUOTE]
If you're going to do something unprotected, then DATY would probably be what you should do. See this:

[url]http://www.dph.sf.ca.us/sfcityclinic/stdbasics/stdchart.asp[/url]

The precautions I take -- I don't do it if I've got cuts or sores on my lips, tongue or mouth, and I try to take a good look at what I'm licking. And I'd avoid it if I didn't feel comfortable about the woman. For example, if you were with a crack w*hore or in Africa (where AIDS is rampant), I think it would be unwise.

Some mongers have been concerned about this, but there is no need to worry too much. You can get HIV from breast milk if you are a baby, not if you are an adult monger. This is because babies are less able to fight infection.

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Wow. Lots of bare back here. Looks like the norm in China. Indo and other countries mostly use condoms. Why do the Chinese girls not want condoms?