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Thank you Angus MaGee and dkFatBastard! I really appreciate it. The messe calendar was exactly what I was looking for. One last thing, I wonder if a lot of the girls at Artemis are college girls who go to school in Berlin? If so, I wonder if a lot of them leave Berlin for the summer leading to a "changing of the guard" at Artemis? Just a thought.
[QUOTE=Charles Browne]As for Aida, I almost get jealous of you when I hear you have sessioned with her twice (very strange reaction, considering her profession).[/Quote]
I often feel a twinge of jealousy when I read a review (or even worse, see her heading off to the rooms with someone else)of a girl with whom I have a nice connection. As far as I am concerned this is pretty normal and no big deal. It goes with the territory I guess.
[QUOTE=Charles Browne]Please tell her next time you meet her, that the fat guy who loved to kiss and lick her says hi and wants to meet her again, will you? :)[/Quote]
I most certainly will tell her Hi when I see her again. I did understand from her that she only works at Artemis about two weeks of every month, commuting from somewhere else in Germany, not sure where. But the last few times I have been she has always been there. Who knows what goes on with some of these girls...
[QUOTE=Judge Absalom] One last thing, I wonder if a lot of the girls at Artemis are college girls who go to school in Berlin? If so, I wonder if a lot of them leave Berlin for the summer leading to a "changing of the guard" at Artemis? Just a thought.[/QUOTE]
Er...this is the fantasy. The reality is that a lot of the girls are from close by EE countries (Poland, Romania, Moldavia, etc.) and they either come here for a few weeks or months and then return to their home land or they immigrate and this is one of their more lucrative career options.
The college girl part time girl does exist but you will not run across a whole bevy of them at Artemis. I can think of really only two that I have met. I have been told on numerous occasions this story but I often find it is not entirely true. The girls are not stupid and they know that this college girl story is one that we mongers like. So they use it.
Also sometimes a girl does not quite want to admit to herself what she is doing.
But as I said in my last post to you, other than maybe avoiding August, I would not spend too much time trying to figure out "the best" time to visit. The number and quality of girls is pretty constant. There is a difference between day time/night time. Night time brings out the hotter girls-but they are maybe not the best in service, just hot.
I guess in the end it depends upon what exactly you are looking for. If you just want the hottest girl you can find then best to come on a busy weekend with a big messe in town.
If you are looking for more of a GFE with a girl that you find attractive physically and who will chat & flirt with you before dragging you to a room, you are as likely to find her there on a hot, mid August afternoon as any other time.
[QUOTE=Charles Browne]Regarding telling girls about this forum or others:
I guess it has both disadvantages and advantages. If a girl is aware that her performance at any given time might be the subject of a report, that might make her try a bit harder to fulfill her clients' needs and not give bad service to some clients who she thinks will not be making another visit soon. On the other hand, it might give her some amount of performance anxiety. Teachers rarely become better because students are allowed to grade them, by comparison. If a teacher ain't good to begin with, being reviewed isn't going to make him better.
And then there's the risk that we might eventually see false reviews and the like.
To the extent that I will ever speak about forums like this and others like it to girls, I will do it only in general terms, I promise :) It's not something I aim to do - it just happened because I told Aida I had heard lots of good things about her, and she was curious about where or from whom I had heard about her. It would have been strange to have to make up a lie.[/QUOTE]
I am of the mind that if a girl is thinking about the possibility of a report then the service is probably "in the toilet".
A girl like your recent GFE, Aida, I felt is (aside from the cash) got in her mind nothing much except having a good time. As I said, it may interest her that we monger discuss the service we receive but I doubt that she will spend much time "trying" to give better service because of it.
She is a natural and that is why I rated her high.
But as I say, not mentioning the forum is not a hard & fastrule for me. I am simply a bit cautious about spreading the address around to the girls, that is all.
Hi fellows.
I will have the pleasure of attending Artemis in the end of may. I have not been there before but I have been to Palace few times. One of the things I want to do is a threesome. I think that every man have dreamt of trying a least once a threesome and I havn't done it! (yet! )
As a regular reader of this forum I have noticed that to those that have tried threesome the experiance is mixed.
So I was wondering is it worth it? Not only from economic wiew but not less plesure wise or is it something that you only do to bragg about?
And do you pay 2x60 for 30 min if you leave out lesboshow?
One more, is the majority of the girls Polish and do the normaly speak english?
Hi Halljo
I have tried it three times at Artemis and the results was indeed mixed. I have found out that a threesome is not for me. Offcourse it 's nice but not twice as nice as being with one woman. I am however glad I tried it :-).
The price is 2*60€ if you leave out the lesbo show, but ask the girls beforehand just to be sure. Another recommendation, if you have time for it find a provider that you have some chemistry with and then go for a threesome with her and friend that she recommends. In my experience the girls going round selling threesomes are very mechanical.
[QUOTE=Halljo]Hi fellows.
I will have the pleasure of attending Artemis in the end of may. I have not been there before but I have been to Palace few times. One of the things I want to do is a threesome. I think that every man have dreamt of trying a least once a threesome and I havn't done it! (yet! )
As a regular reader of this forum I have noticed that to those that have tried threesome the experiance is mixed.
So I was wondering is it worth it? Not only from economic wiew but not less plesure wise or is it something that you only do to bragg about?
And do you pay 2x60 for 30 min if you leave out lesboshow?
One more, is the majority of the girls Polish and do the normaly speak english?[/QUOTE]
There's one or two things to keep in mind when doing a threesome:
You should know at least one of the girls.
Let her choose the second girl. If you do, she should at least like the other girl.
Make a clear statement before you go that you do want a session for 2x60 EUR and nothing more, if they want to kiss and make out, they can, but no extra charge.
If you consider these things, a threesome can be a great experience. I had quite a few at different clubs, and they all were great.
HB
[QUOTE=Halljo]Hi fellows.
I will have the pleasure of attending Artemis in the end of may. I have not been there before but I have been to Palace few times. One of the things I want to do is a threesome. I think that every man have dreamt of trying a least once a threesome and I havn't done it! (yet! )
As a regular reader of this forum I have noticed that to those that have tried threesome the experiance is mixed.
So I was wondering is it worth it? Not only from economic wiew but not less plesure wise or is it something that you only do to bragg about?
And do you pay 2x60 for 30 min if you leave out lesboshow?
One more, is the majority of the girls Polish and do the normaly speak english?[/QUOTE]
I would agree mostly with what has been said.
In general I personally have often been disappointed with P4P threesomes. The girls must be comfortable with each other and also actually be into it. Otherwise the mechanical aspect can ruin the whole thing. I think it important to figure out for yourself what you really want. Do you want the girls to just take care of you?(two tongues licking up and down your dick) or do you want some lesbo action?(fucking one doggy while she licks the other).
For a fully interactive threesome at Artemis it can get very expensive. Two girls for 1/2 hr. with lesbian interaction would run you 220 (60+60+50+50).
And if you came in either (or both) mouths it could cost even more.
And for me personally a half hour threesome is sort of short on time to really do it justice.
I think that there are cheaper alternatives for threesome action in Berlin. Bordellos where the extras are not quite so expensive.
[QUOTE=Halljo]
One more, is the majority of the girls Polish and do the normaly speak english?[/QUOTE]
I would say that there is no real majority of girls from a specific country. If anything there are a lot of Bulgarians & Romanians. But then there are other countries also represented. Poland, Russia, Slovakia, Czech Republic, Germany, Brazil, Spain, Dominican Republic, Moldavia, Hungary,Thailand, Malaysia and more.
English is spoken by some of the girls and with varying degrees of skill.
Hi guys.
I'm might be wrong but I think I never seen a link to this movie/documentary about Artemis.
[url]http://www.zoharkaniel.com/?p=Films[/url]
Click on the second picture from left a the bottom of the frame "Please choose a video".
Nothing new per se but excellent way for those who havn't been to Artemis to see how the place look inside. But sadly no girls:.<
[QUOTE=Halljo]Hi guys.
I'm might be wrong but I think I never seen a link to this movie/documentary about Artemis.
[url]http://www.zoharkaniel.com/?p=Films[/url]
Click on the second picture from left a the bottom of the frame "Please choose a video".
Nothing new per se but excellent way for those who havn't been to Artemis to see how the place look inside. But sadly no girls:.<[/QUOTE]
Many thanks Halljo for the link, that is very interresting to know about Artemis backstage, I was in this FKK last October for 2 nights and I have spent very very good time with beautiful girls.
landed in fra in the morning, had a full day of business stuff, then took the last flight fra- txl, which was of course delayed. dropped my luggage of at the hotel, told the driver to wait while i checked in and then drove straight over to artemis. my last visit was in september, and i came away from that somewhat disappointed at the lack of energy and morose environment. i was hoping for a better run this time.
got there just about midnight armed with some of angus’ recommendations, with one in particular for ella, who sounded like she was exactly the type that i look for. stash my cash in the cash lockers and go to take shower slippers from the rack and there’s a blonde standing just inside the entrance to the locker rooms waiting to get paid who looks exactly like the description of ella that i had in my mind from reading previous posts about her. but, i wasn’t sure so i let it ride. showered, robed up and went to reconnoiter. i made my rounds, checking out the kinos, dining area and downstairs bar, fending off numerous advances in the process. not a lot going on. there were no sp loitering near the circular stairs, and none sitting in the downstairs lounge or in the downstairs kino. only 25-30 sp in the time that i was there and maybe slightly more customers. there wasn't much of anything happening, so i watched the sexless striptease, and then i saw that same blonde from the locker room sitting by the bar. i grabbed the stool next to her, and as fate usually likes to play tricks on us, quickly verified, that the very first woman that i had seen that night at the club, except for the hot reception girl, was indeed the target of my search for the night. my muse.
[b]ella[/b] is a great find. much has been written already about her by angus and others. i can only add that she is as genuine a person as you will find working in this environment. although russian, she’s lived in germany for awhile and doesn’t have the mercenary attitude that sadly some of her fellow country women have. when she asked me to guess her nationality, i immediately said "russia" and explained that my friend, the great am, had told me about her. angus, sorry to say, that although i described you to her, i don't think that she really remembered you. later, as we were kissing goodbye after a very intense session, she remembered and said, "[i]i'll have to thank your friend in a special way the next time i see him as thanks for bringing us together[/i]". class act.
great, great session, on par with some of the best that i’ve had at bernd’s and oase. excellent oral skills, fabulous positioning of her body, with great attention to providing maximum pleasure to her customer. lots of different positions, and watching her in cowgirl was a vision for all times. at some point she had taken off the condom, and was teasing me by giving me a body to body massage and that's how i came, with her on top of me rubbing her body against mine. delightful. the time with her just flies, and we went way over the hour, cuddling and talking, and enjoying the mellow feeling that you get after an emotional release. when we got up to leave, she gave me the ultimate compliment telling me that after being with me, she was going home, since she couldn’t possibly top that session with another client that night and she preferred to leave at a high point. could have been a line, but who cares, it made me feel really good.
i should have taken her advice and left at that high point, because it was all downhill after that. that previously noted lack of energy had amplified. maybe 15 or 20 sp remained, most glumly sitting around the upstairs lounge. i saw a very nice looking woman with asian features sitting at the other side of the bar, but by the time i went around there she had been swooped up by another client. i stuck around waiting for her to finish with him, but when i finally saw her she was dressed in a sweat suit and making her way up to the top floor dormitory. i passed on some other pretty things, which i probably shouldn’t have, because when i told angus their names the next day, he was shocked that i would turn them down. they just looked beaten and had little joy in their movements.
the only signs of life came from a well-built latin looking women who was having a good time with a group of 3 so. american guys. at one point they left so i called her over.[b] juliana[/b] is from mexico, new to the business, and later admitted to me that she didn’t really like what she was doing, but needed the dough. all of the signs were pointing to a bad session, especially after 3 minutes when she asked are you going to a room with me or not? but she had a full, hot body with a luscious ass and breasts, and a meaty jlo type body. made a decision right there on the couch to go to a zimmer even though i had low expectations. self- fulfilling prophecy. in the room she pulls out a package of sanitary wipes motions to me to lie down and begins to wipe me down like i was carrying the plague. thinking about it now, she’s from mexico after all, but at the time it annoyed me, since that particular wi****wn, is common at many of the mass market pt's where the girls cannot count on their clients having showered properly, and not what we expect from a high class fkk. she started with her standard session script. i was having none of that and told her to lie down and went down on her, without wiping her i might add, although the thought did cross my mind. it helped, and she let her guard down for a little, but stopped me at about the 20 minute mark by asking if i wanted to extend the session. no way jose. so i let her follow the script, and finished promptly at the 30 minute mark, plowing in from behind with her proud butt in the air. no sooner where we done, then she pulls out some antiseptic fluid and starts wiping herself wherever she had been touched by me, then pulls out huge bottle of mouthwash and begins gargling right there in the room. the woman was a walking walgreen’s.
i stuck around for awhile after that, hoping to find a high point to close my night and erase that last impression, but in the end left, feeling like the giant germ factory that i must be. walked out just past 4 a.m., to find 30 or so taxis outside ([i]should i tell them there are only about 10 paying customers still in the club?[/i]). have to say that i was once again less than impressed by artemis. still it’s the only decent fkk game in town, and with ella plying her trade there, who is a destination unto herself, i’ve now added it to my very select list of destination clubs that warrant special trips.
Iseeus report says what I felt already some months ago. Artemis is a part of the sex-industry, and its not always fun to feed her. I am quiete sad about that because Berlin is a nice city and I like to go there. But there are no really good places even when you are ready to spend a lot of money.
[QUOTE=Severin Carl]Iseeus report says what I felt already some months ago. Artemis is a part of the sex-industry, and its not always fun to feed her. [/QUOTE]
I'm confused: The way I read it, Iseeu found it indeed quite pleasurable (i.e. fun) to feed Ella his schwanz...oder?
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[QUOTE=Severin Carl] Artemis is a part of the sex-industry, and its not always fun to feed her. [/QUOTE]
But it can be fun to lick her treats IMO.
With Artemis much depends upon when you go, day/night of the week, what going on in town etc.. But batting 500 on a Monday evening, arriving at 23:00, I'd say Iseeu did alright.