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[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2867400]Professional Trick Thinking.

Professinal Trick thinking.

Professional Trick thinking.

[B]Nothing wrong with being a professional trick.[/B] The problem is when Professional Tricks have problem with individuals who are not Professional Tricks. When you are a Professional Trick every girl you see is a Ho. Because any money or gifts giving make her such. So, you do not give birthday presents or valentines day gifts or buy them some sexy lingerie you would like see them in and then wonder why you cannot have a normal relationship with a girl.[/QUOTE]I never said buying gifts on holidays means she is a ho. If that's the case my moms a ho. I'm saying, if you meet a girl for the first time and you giver her money after sex because you went bareback, and you gave her money the second time because she needed diapers, and the third time you gave her money for rent that means she is a ho. Gifts are not for first time meetings. That's later. I'm saying most of you that say your girl isn't a ho because the money goes for such and such are delusional. If a girl comes over and doesn't ask for anything and you don't giver her a gift, and she still comes over time after time, than she isn't a ho. Try it. Don't giver her anything after sex and see if she comes back. That's the true test.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2867400]Professional Trick Thinking.[/QUOTE]Mine was a question, not a way of thinking. If you walk into McDonald's, are they giving you that hamburger if you do not give them money? When you go see old girl, is she giving you that pussy if you are not giving her money? It is not complicated. The professional trick thinking is that I can fool myself into believing that just because we fuck and I give her money, then that does not mean we are fucking for money. I doubt most with this way of thinking would neither be giving money if fucking was not involved.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2867467]DF is doing the work, spending the money, and getting elite women. Don Carlos is doing it. Miamiboy is doing it. Mr. E, SC, and JJbee are not, and they are pretending the women they have are elite.[/QUOTE]Now you are out of your lane mother fucker. You won't even come out from behind your screen and stop beating on your keyboard to judge the quality of the girls anyone else is getting posting in this thread. You have told me in the forum you would not want to meet me. So, you have already made your choices sight unseen.

[B]A man has to have purpose.[/B] Chasing pussy is an activity not a purpose. If your purpose is chasing pussy in order to provide ego gratification for yourself that is fine. Pussy is Pussy for me. I would rather hang with my boys doing importing things IRL. Chasing pussy is not one of them (at least for me).

[B]Prostitution:[/B] [I]the practice of engaging in relatively indiscriminate sexual activity, in general with someone who is not a spouse or a friend, in exchange for immediate payment in money or other valuables.[/I].

[B]Trick:[/B][I] Any man who lets women use him for his wallet. It comes from the term prostitutes use to describe the men who pay them for sex.[/I].

Are you going to stipulate to the the above definitions?

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2867482]I never said buying gifts on holidays means she is a ho. If that's the case my moms a ho. I'm saying, if you meet a girl for the first time and you giver her money after sex because you went bareback, and you gave her money the second time because she needed diapers, and the third time you gave her money for rent that means she is a ho. Gifts are not for first time meetings. That's later. I'm saying most of you that say your girl isn't a ho because the money goes for such and such are delusional.[/QUOTE]What I see is a moonwalk combined with a professional spin worthy of any successful politician in the world.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2867482] If a girl comes over and doesn't ask for anything and you don't giver her a gift, and she still comes over time after time, than she isn't a ho. Try it. Don't giver her anything after sex and see if she comes back. That's the true test.[/QUOTE]Don't need to try it. Because I have done it and I know the difference. A Professional Trick does not know the difference. I don't know if your are a Professional Trick or not because I am not in your mind and only am reading your posts.

You are quick to jump on someone case and define a relationship based on your opinion of it. Go back and read some of the stuff you wrote about the relationships of others. Do you have the details in order to even put it up against your own means test?

In the Dominican Republic, I met a girl that came over to the the apartment I was renting and fucked me. Only money I gave here was for a taxi to return home. She paid for the taxi to come over. This went on for 3 to 6 months. I don't remember exactly as it was a long time ago. Special occasion of some type came up and she asked if I could buy her a dress that she wanted. I bought the dress.

The Professional Tricks among us jump up and get behind their screens and start beating on their keyboards to say: "Ah, ha, I got you! You are a trick and she is your prostitute. " Don't believe me? Read what you wrote:

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2867194]I can say I never paid a hooker with his thinking because the money I gave them went for rent, food, gas, and kids. Of course it did. That's why they hook. I stand by my statement that a attractive 8 or 9 that never receives money for sex won't be caught dead with a obvious American who can't speak Spanish.[/QUOTE]You threw down the gauntlet. I picked it up.

[B]Your serve[/B]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2867471]A hooker is just looking to satisfy you for an hour or so. A SB is looking to satisfy you for years. Guys here seeing hookers convince themselves it is the same thing. If you try it and are successful at it, you will see the sex is way better.[/QUOTE]By this token, we can take this a step farther. A chick that you do not have to give money to is looking to satisfy you forever. And the sex is way better with them than a hooker or sugar baby. If you are ever able to get a chick that is neither hooker nor sugar baby, then you will see what I mean.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2867718]A chick that you do not have to give money to is looking to satisfy you forever.[/QUOTE]Studies have shown higher income women are actually more likely to cheat.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2867718]If you are ever able to get a chick that is neither hooker nor sugar baby, then you will see what I mean.[/QUOTE]If your women were worth a shit, you would not have to be seeing hookers.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2867582]You won't even come out from behind your screen and stop beating on your keyboard to judge the quality of the girls anyone else is getting posting in this thread. You have told me in the forum you would not want to meet me. So, you have already made your choices sight unseen. Pussy is Pussy for me.[/QUOTE]Anybody who says pussy is pussy is fucking ugly women. Why else would you say it?

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2867582]If your purpose is chasing pussy in order to provide ego gratification for yourself that is fine.I would rather hang with my boys doing importing things IRL.[/QUOTE]So you invent that I am chasing pussy and then say you are spending your time doing more important things than me. Thank God you are not trying to compete.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2867582]Now you are out of your lane mother fucker. [/QUOTE]Weren't you the asshole who scolded others for name calling? LOL.

And what are you upset about? You are upset that I called your women ugly. Well, if pussy is pussy, you should not care. You should be happy your getting laid.

There are guys on here spending the money, doing the work, looking for prime pussy, wooing it, upping their game, getting ripped off, getting their hearts broken, and getting up and trying hard to have a short memory and do it all over again. It is not easy finding the highest quality women.

And then there are guys like you.

You must have missed the part where I said Don beat me to a prime woman. He was competition. You are not even running in the race. You are a just a lazy ass who fucks ugly women and tells yourself how smart you are for not trying to compete.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2867467]DF is doing the work, spending the money, and getting elite women. Don Carlos is doing it. Miamiboy is doing it. Mr. E, SC, and JJbee are not, and they are pretending the women they have are elite...[/QUOTE]You judge men by the women they pursuit. LOL. That is why you are doing what you are doing. Aren't they doing PPM? What is the difference between PPM and prostitute?

My definition of elite from the money point of view at the minimum will be someone that is independently wealthy or have enough money that does require to trade sex for money. My definition of elite family at the minimum will not have someone looking for sugar daddy for support because she could not get a job regardless of condition. Getting a job for any elite family member is easy if you have known any.

My definition of model will be someone who belongs to an agency that you can see her profile on the agency website. If you google her name, you are going to see plenty of search result of her.

Monger is not on top of my list of activities that I like. I can get similar pleasure from other activities that are worth spending my time. All my college classmates, my friends know I monger. Plenty of my classmates are considered elites simply because the school and their accomplishments. One of my best friends who is very wealthy and well known. He said he envies my life because I am no one so I can freely do anything I want without getting noticed.

I helped out a SB who was stranded in the same country I was at during Covid. I paid her living expense without condition and without meeting her because it turned out she was in another city. I sent my friend to talk to her landlord to check out her story. This friend later said he was influenced by me and he bailout a working girl. He knows the girl thru me because I mongered everyday at that time too and he mongered with me. LOL This working girl owned a thriving business but fell on hard time during Covid. She had a girl when she worked in Korea as a migrant worker. She wanted to marry the Korean and did not know the Korean lied to her that he had a family already. The Korean offered to support her and the kid. She left without taking a dime. After the child was born, she let the father know thru FB but does not allow the father any contact with the child. She ended up getting a loan to become a prostitute to support her entire family. My friend not only bailed her out. He helped her buy several properties in her native county, and gave her enough money so she is now set for the rest of her life. My friend just did it without any string attached. He was invited to visit her but he decided to end it and kept his distance. I once bought a Rolex for his long term girlfriend.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2867471]I don't have a dog in the fight, but there is a big difference between a woman who is looking for a john and one who is looking for a sugar daddy. You are looking at things from a male perspective. The woman may not have a moral issue taking money for sex but she does not want to just fuck any loser. If she is pre med or pre law, she can look for a SD who is a doctor or lawyer.

A hooker is just looking to satisfy you for an hour or so. A SB is looking to satisfy you for years.

Guys here seeing hookers convince themselves it is the same thing. If you try it and are successful at it, you will see the sex is way better.[/QUOTE]You guys are just playing mental gymnastics. Paying for her taxi everytime doesn't make her a ho. If you give her something of decent value everytime she comes over, than she is a ho. If you buy her a fridge and dishwasher, then she is a probably a ho. I knew a guy who did that and said she wasn't a ho. Bottom line if you enjoy the girls company and it's not costing you much in money or gifts then you can think of her as a regular chick. I think tiger woods ex wife was a ho. Paul McCartneys ex 2nd wife was a ho. They thought otherwise.

If you say she isn't a ho, but I gave her some rent money to help her out, and the next time I gave her 60 bucks because her kid needed diapers and food, and the third time I gave her 50 to go to the dentist because she hasn't had a cleaning. At that point you are delusional in thinking she isn't a ho. Doesn't mean you can't have fun. I'm just saying she probably isn't a nun when you're gone.

You chopped my post up and did not even post each paragraph how I wrote it. Here is my post in its entirety:

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2867582]Now you are out of your lane mother fucker. You won't even come out from behind your screen and stop beating on your keyboard to judge the quality of the girls anyone else is getting posting in this thread. [b]You have told me in the forum you would not want to meet me.[/b] So, you have already made your choices sight unseen.
[B]A man has to have purpose.[/B] Chasing pussy is an activity not a purpose. If your purpose is chasing pussy in order to provide ego gratification for yourself that is fine. Pussy is Pussy for me. I would rather hang with my boys doing importing things IRL. Chasing pussy is not one of them (at least for me).[/QUOTE][B]Man Law 101:[/B] [I]No grown man ought to be telling another grown man how to spend his hard earned money or who to fuck[/I].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2867916]Anybody who says pussy is pussy is fucking ugly women. Why else would you say it?[/QUOTE]Because pussy is not my life. You are a wage slave Elvis 2008. I am not. Precisely because throughout my life I have listened to the artist Young Jazzy who said "Catch them hos later, stay on your grind. Of course the spelling of the word [B]Ho[/B] has been debated here.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2867916]So you invent that I am chasing pussy and then say you are spending your time doing more important things than me.[/QUOTE]I don't have to invent anything. It is what you and the your boys you are competing against are doing. Just look at your description of your activities in a paragraph that you wrote below. Sounds a coach telling a rookie how to achieve success in the IPL (International Pussy League). [I] Did you see how that mother fucker smashed that pussy? He got all the way up in her? You know those short guys really have overcompensate. But he is pounding it the same way a (redacted) would[/I]. Can we get a replay on that last stroke? [B]Oh, I am just too mother fucking funny for my own good.[/B] LOL!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2867916]Thank God you are not trying to compete.[/QUOTE]No my misguided ISG Brother. You are free to thank the supreme being of your choice and I will thank mine. But what I will thank him for is blessing me with intelligence and giving parents and an intact family during my formative years. A Father that instilled a work ethic and a Mother who instilled the value of education and lifetime learning. I would thank mine next for allowing me to overcome all the obstacles and challenges that life threw in at me.

Why do you think I have to compete with you or anyone else for anything? Didn't you read that when I simply spoke of my activities the negative reaction I got? "Fuck you money!" Multiple business in multiple countries. Nah, I don't have any of that.

Spend your life chasing the finest pussy in the world and paying for it. Not the life for me. The only difference between us is:[B] I know what is best for me is not going to be best for the other guy. [/B] His money, his dick, his life.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2867916]Weren't you the asshole who scolded others for name calling? LOL.[/QUOTE]Yes, initially I was. But I have not run up against a hard headed dumb ass punk * mother fucker such as yourself since Mr. E and his twin started in on me in the Dominican Republic Forum 10 years ago. Figured if you want to throw insults, I'll throw them back. Did you actually every figure what a socialist was? Am I one? How is your stock portfolio doing? You benching 250 - 300 pounds these days? Still running a sub 5 minute mile? [B]ROTFLMAO[/B].

You are pretty full of yourself to think I am concerned with your opinion me. This is just verbal tennis. A activity. Much like chasing pussy is pussy. Except I have to use my brain to write here on ISG. I can pretty much chase pussy with my eyes closed. I can just sense it.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2867916]And what are you upset about? You are upset that I called your women ugly. Well, if pussy is pussy, you should not care. You should be happy you're getting laid.[/QUOTE]Bothers me no more than you being called a Professional Trick. For your information, I did not leave my country of origin to chase pussy. I left to pursue a better lifestyle. I found it! Along with business opportunities and investments. Although I bought my iPhone 14 Pro Max 512 GB in the (Dis) United States of America. That is pretty much the only thing the country is good for these days: consumerism.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2867916]There are guys on here spending the money, doing the work, looking for prime pussy, wooing it, upping their game, getting ripped off, getting their hearts broken, and getting up and trying hard to have a short memory and do it all over again. It is not easy finding the highest quality women.[/QUOTE]I will stipulate to that. Northing worth having is an easy. I would rather live a life like the character in Equalizer 3 while he was recovering from getting shot in the back after showing mercy on on a kid. Straight chilling and taking care of himself. Yet, still willing to do all he can for those he cared about around him. That is my purpose. Chasing pussy is an incidental activity, an entertaining part of my life. In fact, I wish I had of had the attitude I have now as a young man. I would be a lot richer and been able to retire even earlier than I did. Yet I still work. Or let's say my employees call me Jefe and Patron because they work for me. My money says the same thing. But it does not greet me in the morning. LOL!

[B]A man has to have a purpose. [/B]Chasing pussy is a activity, not a purpose. All you have done is confirmed what I have been saying. I prefer to pursue comfort in my life. I am not rich. But I am not competing against anyone, working for anyone nor do I have a financial care in the world. Oh, my dick is well taken care of and my balls stay empty.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2867916]And then there are guys like you.[/QUOTE]The best and most intelligent in the world. Never had a hater that was doing better than me. People who are doing well have no time to hate on those beneath them. Which is exactly what you are doing with that statement.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2867916]You must have missed the part where I said Don beat me to a prime woman. He was competition. You are not even running in the race.[/QUOTE]Nope, I didn't miss it. I just don't give a fuck about what another man is doing with his money or his dick.

You are right there are winners and there are losers when you complete. I shall repeat myself: [I]I am not competing against anyone, working for anyone nor do I have a financial care in the world. Oh, my dick is well taken care of and my balls stay empty.[/I].

Girls all over the world turn 18 everyday. They are all looking for a "come up". Unless they are lesbian they are looking for a man. I am smart enough to know I do not get girls at this point in my life because of I am so handsome and intelligent. In case you have not picked it up in my response to you, I am not arguing with you. We are simply playing verbal tennis.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2867916]You are a just a lazy ass who fucks ugly women and tells yourself how smart you are for not trying to compete.[/QUOTE]When you have actually seen a girl I have fucked then you might be able to say that. Otherwise it is just your opinion. You have the right to your opinion. But that does not make it a fact.

[B]Your serve![/B]

[QUOTE=Nounce;2867972]You judge men by the women they pursuit. LOL. That is why you are doing what you are doing. Aren't they doing PPM? What is the difference between PPM and prostitute?

My definition of elite from the money point of view at the minimum will be someone that is independently wealthy or have enough money that does require to trade sex for money.[/QUOTE]Elite women means the women in highest demand. It requires work, money, discipline, and game to get said women.

The lazy fucks who claim pussy is pussy aren't doing the work, building game, or trying to better themselves. They look at the guys who are getting elite women and then say pussy is pussy to demean those guys. Then they make up stupid definitions, excuses, and render judgment to excuse their sorry ass behavior. If you work ass of an buy a Ferrari, and some asshole drives a Chevrolet and says, "Cars are just transportation", it is easy to think the Chevy owner is a jealous POS.

I even have that sentiment with cars, but I respect the guy who makes a commitment to get a Ferrari, and I know it would be insulting to say to him, "Eh, cars are just cars. "

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2868011]Yes, initially I was. But I have not run up against a hard headed dumb ass punk * mother fucker such as yourself since Mr. E and his twin started in on me in the Dominican Republic Forum 10 years ago. Figured if you want to throw insults, I'll throw them back.[/QUOTE]So when I said you were an egotistical, hypocritical POS liar, I was right. And I said you were here for you and no one else. How well did that prediction work?

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2868011]Because pussy is not my life. Chasing pussy is an incidental activity. Spend your life chasing the finest pussy in the world and paying for it. Not the life for me.[/QUOTE]So obviously you are not here to talk about women and sex then. Gee, is it to brag?

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2868011]A Father that instilled a work ethic and a Mother who instilled the value of education and lifetime learning. I would thank mine next for allowing me to overcome all the obstacles and challenges that life threw in at me. Why do you think I have to compete with you or anyone else for anything? Didn't you read that when I simply spoke of my activities the negative reaction I got? "Fuck you money!" Multiple business in multiple countries. I did not leave my country of origin to chase pussy. I left to pursue a better lifestyle. I found it! Although I bought my iPhone 14 Pro Max 512 GB in the (Dis) United States of America.[/QUOTE]I would say yes. And maybe it is to say you are better than others?

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2868011]Because pussy is not my life. You are a wage slave Elvis 2008. I am not. I got Fuck you money. The best and most intelligent in the world. Never had a hater that was doing better than me.[/QUOTE]I would say yes to that too. Now tell me you have it all figured out.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2868011]When you have actually seen a girl I have fucked then you might be able to say that. I know what is best for me is not going to be best for the other guy. His money, his dick, his life. Pussy is pussy. I can pretty much chase pussy with my eyes closed. Did you see how that mother fucker smashed that pussy? He got all the way up in her? You know those short guys really have overcompensate. But he is pounding it the same way a (redacted) would. Can we get a replay on that last stroke?[/QUOTE]Well, that was predictable. If pussy is pussy, why would I need to see any of your women? You have just defined every woman you have as a 5. Hell, with everything you wrote, you have just defined yourself as an average POS john who has nothing going for him outside of what is in his wallet.

As for the woman Don got, she was on [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. I actually texted with her for an hour and was blown away by the person she was and all she had accomplished. She had traveled the world, was highly educated, cultured and came from a wealthy family. So I asked what she was doing on the site, and she said that she did not want to be dependent on her father anymore. I was saying to myself, "Man, I got to meet this woman. " This was a woman that was not some lame hooker type who thinks she is worth trillions because she lays on her back. She would be a real partner for a guy, but I had not even seen her picture. So she sends me one, and she is smoking hot.

Well, before I get down to Colombia, Don has met her and gone out with her. She picked him up in a Mercedes. Later on, he tells me he has fallen for her, and another guy talked her out of marrying her. I was too late. Don got to her first, and she was not the type to be seeing multiple men. She came from money.

I did not know Don was seeing her, but when I reached out to her, I was rebuffed. Unlike the hooker types, she was not going to go for a guy with a bigger wallet but the right guy. As I expected with her, she had character and was loyal to the guy that she was seeing.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2868011]Oh, my dick is well taken care of and my balls stay empty.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that pretty much sounds like all you need in a woman.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2868011]We are simply playing verbal tennis.[/QUOTE]Nope, I got my prize and have retired. You are with the set of losers who think all women are hookers and cannot pick you up in a Mercedes or be a beauty queen, and their only function is to drain your balls and take care of your dick.

You think that you are a master of the game, but the truth is you are so fucking stupid that you do not get what other men are playing for.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2868077]Elite women means the women in highest demand.[/QUOTE]And what are these supposed elite women being demanded for? You still have not explained what an elite woman is. All you are saying that it is something many people want. The line at Popeye's Chicken was hours long of chicken sandwiches being in highest demand. I suppose that means the chicken sandwiches are elite.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2868077]Elite women means the women in highest demand. If you work ass of an buy a Ferrari, and some asshole drives a Chevrolet and says, "Cars are just transportation", it is easy to think the Chevy owner is a jealous POS.

I even have that sentiment with cars, but I respect the guy who makes a commitment to get a Ferrari, and I know it would be insulting to say to him, "Eh, cars are just cars. "[/QUOTE]Ferraris are not in high demand dummy (but Chevys are), and I think most people that own one will tell you what a money pit they are.

[QUOTE=TjBrazil;2867985]You guys are just playing mental gymnastics. Paying for her taxi everytime doesn't make her a ho. If you give her something of decent value everytime she comes over, than she is a ho. If you buy her a fridge and dishwasher, then she is a probably a ho. I knew a guy who did that and said she wasn't a ho. Bottom line if you enjoy the girls company and it's not costing you much in money or gifts then you can think of her as a regular chick. I think tiger woods ex wife was a ho. Paul McCartneys ex 2nd wife was a ho. They thought otherwise.

If you say she isn't a ho, but I gave her some rent money to help her out, and the next time I gave her 60 bucks because her kid needed diapers and food, and the third time I gave her 50 to go to the dentist because she hasn't had a cleaning. At that point you are delusional in thinking she isn't a ho. Doesn't mean you can't have fun. I'm just saying she probably isn't a nun when you're gone.[/QUOTE]A ho / prostitute / hooker is someone who sells pussy for living. That's her profession / job. She gets paid relatively little amount of money per session, therefore, to make a living she needs to serve many customers. Ranging from few clients per day to few clients per week depending on where she works. Someone whose income depends on 1 guy is not a ho, but a sugar baby. A perfect scenario for a guy that doesn't want to get into a relationship, but wants to have GFE on demand without a long term commitment.

In your world everything is black and white, but there are other colors and shades. You are a true professional trick, that sees a ho in every woman and treats her as such. I bet you are a casa / brothel guy, wham bam thank you ma'am type.