Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2927853]How is this a surprise? None of these chicks graduated from Harvard and went on to do a doctorate at Oxford. None of them started out as a Victoria Secret model.

Some of us keep saying all these chicks come from the same place. But when we are fucking them for a local amount, we are cheapskates and she is ugly. Then when she moves to Gusto's or Seeking, it is she knows her worth and my dick, my money. And the next step is as you are seeing on her instagram. There is no farm that only manufactures high-price hoes. They are the same damn chicks that came out of the hood and someone used to fuck for 40,000 pesos. Now you see this for yourself.[/QUOTE]Mr E schooling once again.

Only thing I'd add is for dudes to stop assuming shit. What Mr E wrote applies to the majority, bc this is a poor fucking country and they dictated their cheap local rates. It doesn't mean they all started at centro, but also in the local clubs and casas. There are also casas in their barrios that no gringos know about. Obviously some get lucky and know their worth, either through friend influence or their education and go straight to Seeking or Gusto and never had to start low. But this is Col, and still a 3rd world country according to their GDP so yeah for us 50 k per fuck is nothing but remember daily salary in this country / min wage is 40 k per day. So making 50 k for few min isn't a bad income. Plus those venues are about volume and the pretty girls go home with 300 k or more.

If you have been coming to Col for many years, you've experienced this. I've personally met many from centro, centro clubs where they started at the 50-120 k and then moved to Gusto and Lleras and then never step foot in centro again. Some still go and rotate, the average ones. But I know quite many from Gusto and the park asking 600 k min that started from the street. It's not even something that need discussion LOL, the guys disagreeing either haven't been here long enough or still don't know shit about Colombia.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2927937]This is easy choice. Option 1. I have never paid 1 million cop in Colombia, but heck, if we are talking about a true stunner 10/10 with college education that comes from a decent family, 250 usd sounds like a good deal.

I doubt though that you can get 7. 5 for 200 mil nowadays. More likely, 400-450.[/QUOTE]Very enlightening response.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2927917]What will be your choice among the following 3. You can session with 1 each day, and you can repeat the same choice. What will be your choice?.

1. 10 in your scale, 21, from estrato 6, study engineering in college, new. 1 million.
2. 10 in your scale, 21, from estrato 1, no college, has worked for 6 years. 1 million.
3. 7.5 in your scale, 21, from estrato 1, no college, new. 200 mil.[/QUOTE]This is an easy choice. I am doing one session and I am not fucking her education nor where she is from. I am fucking her pussy. To me one of the 10's would not be worth 5 times the cost of the 7. 5. I am in the same boat as Kapn. I just don't put a big value on pussy like some guys do. Not like pussy is scarce and I can not get it unless I pay for it. I monger for the fun of it, not because I need to. Just like an airbnb or rental car; I do not see a need in dropping a lot of money for a rental chick.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2927937]This is easy choice. Option 1. I have never paid 1 million cop in Colombia, but heck, if we are talking about a true stunner 10/10 with college education that comes from a decent family, 250 usd sounds like a good deal.

I doubt though that you can get 7. 5 for 200 mil nowadays. More likely, 400-450.[/QUOTE]Like I said to EV to not take it too literally. You can assign any number if you want. Your answer verify a point that I want to know.

Based on your post, you think the market is very efficient. My experience tells me it is not. I can't find the attractive ones on my own but I have generous friends who shared. I am pretty sure we are not off much in our view. A common thought is the girls are considered hot but not the type we prefer. We know someone will take them off the market when discovered despite they are not our type. A girl who is above 5'7, slender, fit with long legs is what I am talking about. The only thing I can't describe and maybe questionable is the face.

There are enough recent posts here to point out many girls started low. How do you counter those reports?

[QUOTE=Nounce;2927972]Like I said to EV to not take it too literally. You can assign any number if you want. Your answer verify a point that I want to know.

Based on your post, you think the market is very efficient. My experience tells me it is not. I can't find the attractive ones on my own but I have generous friends who shared. I am pretty sure we are not off much in our view. A common thought is the girls are considered hot but not the type we prefer. We know someone will take them off the market when discovered despite they are not our type. A girl who is above 5'7, slender, fit with long legs is what I am talking about. The only thing I can't describe and maybe questionable is the face.

There are enough recent posts here to point out many girls started low. How do you counter those reports?[/QUOTE]Well, as I said before, I don't know a single girl that used to charge 40 k pesos and now charges 400 k or 1 million or whatever, because they never worked casas or El Centro streets and were smart enough not to sell themselves short. These girls have never been desperate enough to charge 40 k. I have met girls who used to charge, let's say, 300-350 around the pandemic or shortly after, and now charge double or even triple, but the reason for that is the booming of passport bros movement and tourism in general. Everything is up, rents, food, etc. No wonder they start charging more. Also, the 8's to 10's market is extremely small and inefficient, the rates are all over the place (but generally high) and the girls are asking whatever they think they can get. There is very little supply of 8's and above, but high demand for them, therefore the rates are high, and have always been high relative to the rest of the market.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2927972]Like I said to EV to not take it too literally. You can assign any number if you want. Your answer verify a point that I want to know.

Based on your post, you think the market is very efficient. My experience tells me it is not. I can't find the attractive ones on my own but I have generous friends who shared. I am pretty sure we are not off much in our view. A common thought is the girls are considered hot but not the type we prefer. We know someone will take them off the market when discovered despite they are not our type. A girl who is above 5'7, slender, fit with long legs is what I am talking about. The only thing I can't describe and maybe questionable is the face.

There are enough recent posts here to point out many girls started low. How do you counter those reports?[/QUOTE]Posts by anonymous strangers about what nameless girls allegedly told them aren't proof of anything. Anyone can post anything but that doesn't mean that it is true. Someone just posted that Bangkok freelancer bar Thermae Cafe has been closed for years but that is easily proven to be false. Guys say that some nameless girl told them that she used to work at El Centro and now she works in Parque Llerras. He posted it so it must be true, right? It may be the case that he was told that by the girl (which may or may not have happened) but you don't know whether the girl is telling him the truth because there are no names. Maybe she did tell him that but that doesn't mean it is true.

I always take what guys post here with a grain of salt because I don't know what is true and not true. I definitely would not take it as evidence that something must be true.

[QUOTE=ObjJay;2916708]This is why I love Loutron, guarantied service on what is promised. If the service is bad, complain and you get another girl.[/QUOTE]Well I just had a less satisfying experience at Loutron. I was there at peak hour (Friday around 18:00) so a lot of girls were occupied. None of the available ones got my attention so I decided to wait 30 minutes to see if a better one became available. To kill the time I was watching my phone. Then the waitress steps towards me "sir you can't use your phone when the girls are walking by", I said ok, she left and immediately returned "did you take photos"? I said, no, of course not, just killing time. She said "can I see your phone please", which got me flabbergausted. I said, hesitantly, ok. She took my phone, walked around the corner, where a girl was waiting who obviously complained. Together they went through my photos, of course nothing there, then I heard the girl saying "check his whatsapp too", so they went through my messages. After about a minute she came back with my phone and didn't even apologize!! I told her, so you take my phone, you confirmed I did nothing of which I was accused and you didn't even say sorry"? She then said "ok, sorry" but it didn't feel like she meant it at all. I then walked to the hostess, who knows me well, I'm a regular there, I told her what just had happened and she just said "Of course you weren't taking any photo's".

This was really a bummer. I mean, sure, if a girl really thinks a customer is taking photo's I can understand they need to check. But I never pointed my phone towards any girl. And then when they take that decision to revise a phone and make a customer feel uncomfortable with that situation, you'd expect that the LEAST they'd do is offer you free drinks for the situation. No such thing. So think again about Loutron and "guaranteed service". This honestly has never ever happened to me before and god knows I have some mongering history.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2927972]There are enough recent posts here to point out many girls started low. How do you counter those reports?[/QUOTE]Well that's easy. There are enough not so hot ones that start of at a cheap place like some bar in el Centro and then move up to other places, why wouldn't that happen? But a really hot one knows her worth, she's not going to sell her pussy for 40 k at some dirty bar in El Centro. She's used to have guys hit her up all her life, she knows she's hot (oftentimes they even think they're hotter than they are), she's heard stories about friends in Dubai making $1000 usd a night, why the hell would she start for 40 k in some cheap bar? This just makes no sense and obviously never happens.

Truth be told, I've never mongered at el centro, I frikking hate that place, heard enough Colombian stories about robberies, stabbing etc. Been there for some other businesses and I always hate that place. I've seen video's on youtube though, there are tons of those vids, and yet have to find a hot girl in them. Best I've seen is maybe a 6.5-7 and those are really scarce. Tons of fat ones and crack heads though.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2927978]Well, as I said before, [/QUOTE]I removed the last part, assume the "same place" is estrato 1 just to be specific. What do you disagree about the following quote? I know one can nitpick so be generous please.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2927853]
Some of us keep saying all these chicks come from the same place. But when we are fucking them for a local amount, we are cheapskates and she is ugly. Then when she moves to Gusto's or Seeking, it is she knows her worth and my dick, my money. And the next step is as you are seeing on her instagram. There is no farm that only manufactures high-price hoes. They are the same damn chicks that came out of the hood. [I]THIS SETENCE IS REMOVED[/I][/QUOTE]So you also think it is inefficient. My observation is not all of them can get the price they want. Some need time to figure it out, and a 8 or 9 would behave the same way as a 5 to ask for date before then. Some may have a job, and the money they get from sex is a lot relative to their pay from regular job. They don't even know they are underpaid.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2927978]. the 8's to 10's market is extremely small and inefficient, the rates are all over the place (but generally high) and the girls are asking whatever they think they can get. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Medclubber;2927987]But a really hot one knows her worth, she's not going to sell her pussy for 40 k at some dirty bar in El Centro. She's used to have guys hit her up all her life, she knows she's hot[/QUOTE]Dude, [B]all[/B] women have been hit on by guys all their lives! Not just the ones you think are pretty and "know their worth. ".

The Medellin style of robbery has invaded New York City. Except that instead of taking iPhones and gold chains from tourists, these guys are taking Rolexes and expensive jewelry from the patrons at expensive restaurants in Manhattan and the hip parts of Brooklyn.

Armed bandits, two up mounted on mopeds are terrorizing upscale New Yorkers

It definitely serves to the argument that it can happen anywhere.

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/05/nyregion/nyc-restaurant-robberies.html?smid=url-share[/URL]

[QUOTE=KapnAmerica;2927941]

But if your definition of a "steak" is a pretty girl with a princess complex and no bedroom skills, or one who will not admit that she learned the ropes from guys like Pablo or Mr. E, then bon Appetit.[/QUOTE]Hehe, right. It's not like some girl that MB thinks is hot bcos she is going to charge him 500 mil for a game of chess, is going to own up to the fact that she used to work in Botero. As you say, it's not like these girls go to a Sex Ed School to learn the ropes. The good ones do the hard yards to gain the experience. MB just prefers to live in his fantasy world in which a stork drops them from the sky with no previous history.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2927993]Dude, [B]all[/B] women have been hit on by guys all their lives! Not just the ones you think are pretty and "know their worth. ".[/QUOTE]Sure an ugly centro chica might get hit up occasionally by an old timer like yourself but I highly doubt that will make her think she's the hottest girl in town. The hot ones are used to men turning their heads all the time.

Anyway I'll let you live in your fantasy world where young hot women start their career at those cheap ass dirty bars that you go to and can be had for 40 k.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2928066]Hehe, right. It's not like some girl that MB thinks is hot bcos she is going to charge him 500 mil for a game of chess, is going to own up to the fact that she used to work in Botero. As you say, it's not like these girls go to a Sex Ed School to learn the ropes. The good ones do the hard yards to gain the experience. MB just prefers to live in his fantasy world in which a stork drops them from the sky with no previous history.[/QUOTE]You don't need to work in El Centro to "learn the ropes". These girls have experience with their boyfriends and it is just a matter of making the jump from having sex with guys you like to having sex with guys you don't really like. You don't need experience to work in this line of business. In fact, I would say that some guys would prefer girls who don't have that much experience and are new to the game.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2927979]Posts by anonymous strangers about what nameless girls allegedly told them aren't proof of anything. .[/QUOTE]Use common sense please. If you know any locals, ask them if they know places like La Isla, or Gusto. That may help you understand and make your own judgement so you don't limit yourself by what you know.

Also, SA used to be good but it is not now. Can you figure out why?

And this.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2927978]market is extremely small and inefficient, the rates are all over the place (but generally high)[/QUOTE]