Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Nounce;2927989]I removed the last part, assume the "same place" is estrato 1 just to be specific. What do you disagree about the following quote? I know one can nitpick so be generous please.
[/QUOTE]I have already answered this in my prior posts. Thank god, Mr E and I fuck different girls, even if these girls come from the same neighborhood. Beauty is not neighborhood dependent. However, most other things, like level of education, median income (and hence, level of desperation when it comes to selling pussy), etc do depend on where a girl lives. The lower her estrato is, the more ghetto she is. What I mean by ghetto, is the way she talks, dresses, carries herself, etc. I try to avoid estrato 1 and 2 chicks and focus on estrato 3 to 5 because in general they are just a better company and provide much better service. But if you think pussy is pussy, and you fuck whatever moves, estrato wouldn't matter much. However, even in the lowest estrato, 40 k pesos will only get you an ugly hood rat.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2928133]I have already answered this in my prior posts. Thank god, Mr E and I fuck different girls, even if these girls come from the same neighborhood. Beauty is not neighborhood dependent. However, most other things, like level of education, median income (and hence, level of desperation when it comes to selling pussy), etc do depend on where a girl lives. The lower her estrato is, the more ghetto she is. What I mean by ghetto, is the way she talks, dresses, carries herself, etc. I try to avoid estrato 1 and 2 chicks and focus on estrato 3 to 5 because in general they are just a better company and provide much better service. But if you think pussy is pussy, and you fuck whatever moves, estrato wouldn't matter much. However, even in the lowest estrato, 40 k pesos will only get you an ugly hood rat.[/QUOTE]I disagree, sometimes you find pearls en El Centro for less than 40 k. An expert monger should know that paying more does not always get you a better treatment. There are girls asking a lot of money with a terrible attitude.

[QUOTE=MoonShot;2928114]In fact, I would say that some guys would prefer girls who don't have that much experience and are new to the game.[/QUOTE]I do not have an Instagram, neither have I seen the pictures the original poster talked about of chicks on yachts and private planes. But I am willing to bet dollars to donuts they are not 18,19, 20,21, 22,23 ,24,25. I would also agree that [B]some[/B] guys prefer girls that do not have that much experience, [B]some[/B] guys prefer downtown, [B]some[/B] guys prefer other guys, [B]some[/B] guys can prefer an infinite amount of [B]some[/B] things.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2928144]You think a girl should bend over backwards for you for 400 k pesos.

Bitter guys who truly don't know the value of money. You expect a beautiful woman to try to seduce you and make you want her when at the end of the day you're paying for her body based on her appearance?? The only girls that work like this are the mediocre or below average girls because they know they can't compete based on beauty.[/QUOTE]Well considering that beautiful women are selling ass, beautiful women are going to UAE to suck the dicks of camels and to get shitted on, I think the verdict is already out on the things that beautiful women will do. (Unless you assert that all the women doing these things are ugly as you are known to do when you disagree with someone else's experience.).

So is the line being drawn that a beautiful woman should not bend over backwards for him per se, or is it just that 400 K is not enough for her to fulfill what he wanted? If not, then how much would have been enough?

Everybody is talking about the GFE and PSE they get for 300 K, but how dare someone mention the BOBE (Bend Over Backwards Experience) they want. A beautiful woman would just assume literally get shitted on than to bend over backwards for 400 K is what you are saying?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2928193]Well considering that beautiful women are selling ass, beautiful women are going to UAE to suck the dicks of camels and to get shitted on, I think the verdict is already out on the things that beautiful women will do. (Unless you assert that all the women doing these things are ugly as you are known to do when you disagree with someone else's experience.).

So is the line being drawn that a beautiful woman should not bend over backwards for him per se, or is it just that 400 K is not enough for her to fulfill what he wanted? If not, then how much would have been enough?

Everybody is talking about the GFE and PSE they get for 300 K, but how dare someone mention the BOBE (Bend Over Backwards Experience) they want. A beautiful woman would just assume literally get shitted on than to bend over backwards for 400 K is what you are saying?[/QUOTE]Don't talk about things you don't know anything about. For those beautiful girls to get shitted on has a 30 k usd price tag. So why are you always jumping out your lane? Who said they getting shitted on for 400 k pesos.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2928193]Everybody is talking about the GFE and PSE they get for 300 K, but how dare someone mention the BOBE (Bend Over Backwards Experience) they want. A beautiful
woman would just assume literally get shitted on than to bend over backwards for 400 K is what you are saying?[/QUOTE]I think that is not what they are against. One is the girl is paid very well to perform a task. The other is the girl not being paid.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2928133] Thank god, Mr E and I fuck different girls[/QUOTE]That is why I don't understand why you even respond like he is talking about you.

[QUOTE=Incrociatore;2928138]I disagree, sometimes you find pearls en El Centro for less than 40 k. An expert monger should know that paying more does not always get you a better treatment. There are girls asking a lot of money with a terrible attitude.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Also some slowtards are forgetting something very important. Or didn't forget and just clueless:

We left or have travelled outside of the US for women due to many of the same things they're looking for from so-called higher-class women here in Col. The higher the class she's in, the worse her attitude will be along with arrogance and entitlements you'll deal with; just like in the US. I can't stand a bougee fake body and fake ass sophisticated high mileage money hungry wg with bunch of cheap boat photos LOL.

The fellas who hate centro girls or estrato 1-2 girls (as if they'd know) might as well stay back home to deal with arrogant women with good jobs, better clothing and makeups. Not that those things arent important, but the women that come from humble beginnings are 10 x better usually.

For men, status and class matters more, always been. For women, we mostly seek someone we can deal with. Almost like their edu and job has only 10% value, we appreciate it but not mandatory. Whereas for us it's mandatory, like 80-90%. 99 out of 100 decent women won't date a man with no money or job. So it hurts my brain when I see a man desperately speak about a woman that has this and that. That shit don't matter to real men unless you are a user and loser, sort of like the jobless type that want a sugar mom. It's our job to elevate them. It's why for each 1000 sugar daddies, maybe you'll find 1 sugar mom, or for 1 male hooker for each 10,000 wg. Basically, dicks are free and only us men must bring something to the table, not them.

It's not only about male dominance, it's also about feeling appreciated for being a provider and protector of our household. So during these silly arguments of class, don't forget why we travel in the first place. It is to find women that are less entitled, less arrogant, and understand their role in society to allow us men to lead, provide or SHARE the responsibility without them wanting to wear the pants. As we're discussing attitudes and treatments, this indeed goes both for working girls or normal girls.

The fools arguing have zero proof where their dimes come from or their origins. The only way they'd know would be to inspect the birth certificates LOL. Any wg can move from an estrato 1 or centro and move later to El Poblado. I know many, fucked them from centro from 50 k and then moved up and never step foot DT again. Not just assuming.

In fact I came back in town this past week to meet 3 friends that came here, two firstimers, of which twice they hooked up with girls in lleras and paid 400 k that I personally banged for 50 k in centro. Obviously I whispered that intel but you can't cockblock a horny dude who didn't even negotiate LOL.

When it comes to these wgs, you have to try all types if you wish to make a comparison. Or at least just say this is what you prefer, and don't talk of something you don't know. Meaning unless you've been to centro and the poorest barrios like some of us, and have also popped bottles in Poblado, SA, FB, actually experienced everything, it's just a bunch of gibberish talk and assumptions.

Not trying to be a jerk but last thing I'll say is this: Imagine a dude born in a prison and lived there his whole life, he'd swear that his BF or husband and where he's sticking it is the best in the world. I mean, we can empathize with him, but he'd have zero right to claim that's better than our women since he never tried.

People should only speak on what they know. Stop pretending and assuming shit your clueless about.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2928144]You think a girl should bend over backwards for you for 400 k pesos. Sit there trying to seduce you when she could make triple that in one night on a weekend if she was hot.[/QUOTE]400 k is a lot of money in Colombia. That's like 6-8 x more than an educated girl could make daily. There's not enough gringos in Colombia to pay every beautiful working girl there that amount daily, so there will be days that they don't work and see that kind of money. The market is not efficient. Girls aren't strictly valued by their looks and how good they are in bed. They charge what someone is willing to pay and I promise you there's days that they don't get any business at all no matter how beautiful and amazing they are.

It's not expecting too much to pay 200-400 k and expect good service at the least. Guess what? If the service sucks, they won't get repeat business. It's in their interest to get repeat business not only for their income but for their safety. If you treat one person great and they see you 10 times well you made more and it was less risky than providing shit service to 10 seperate people.

I could not give any less of a shit if a WG girl is educated, classy, has great conversation, etc. If she's pretty, fucks good, and is clean, that's all that matters.

[QUOTE=SlowBlow;2928423]400 k is a lot of money in Colombia. That's like 6-8 x more than an educated girl could make daily. There's not enough gringos in Colombia to pay every beautiful working girl there that amount daily, so there will be days that they don't work and see that kind of money. The market is not efficient. Girls aren't strictly valued by their looks and how good they are in bed. They charge what someone is willing to pay and I promise you there's days that they don't get any business at all no matter how beautiful and amazing they are.

It's not expecting too much to pay 200-400 k and expect good service at the least. Guess what? If the service sucks, they won't get repeat business. It's in their interest to get repeat business not only for their income but for their safety. If you treat one person great and they see you 10 times well you made more and it was less risky than providing shit service to 10 seperate people.

I could not give any less of a shit if a WG girl is educated, classy, has great conversation, etc. If she's pretty, fucks good, and is clean, that's all that matters.[/QUOTE]Any country a working girl makes 6-8 x more than an educated girl. In the US girls charge 1000+ usd an hour. And that's a lot of money in the US.

It's all about options. I said the above quote based on his location. Medellin is not what it once was. The girls who have options will take the highest bidder. They use Instagram and other sm outlets to advertise themselves. They're being flown all over the world. They have the newest iPhones and all the expensive make up and perfumes clothing etc etc. You think they got that from charging 400 k??

And I was specifically talking about Gustos girls. 400 k is not a lot to these girls. Nor is it even considered big money anymore in Poblado in general. La Isla and Fase Dos girls charge more than this for a basic 45 min session.

People are not understanding Medellin has been very westernized. Even average fb girls who are a 6-7 in my book are getting 500 mil. Yes plenty still take the 2-300. But they obviously don't have options.

400 k is a lot of money in Colombia in general yes. But is it a lot of money on a weekend night in cities like Poblado or Zona T in Bogotá? No it really isn't.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2928359]tattoos on their hands, fingers, necks, etc. Long ass fake eyelashes and makeup. Wearing pajamas and slippers, wtf? Or see through skirts or tops with no bra underneath. Disgusting. [/QUOTE]But she is a great fuck. LOL.

[QUOTE=Sangnyc21;2928430]400 k is a lot of money in Colombia in general yes. But is it a lot of money on a weekend night in cities like Poblado or Zona T in Bogot? No it really isn't.[/QUOTE]400 K is a lot of money in Colombia, but it is not a lot of money when in a room full of foreigners is what I am reading. That is like when I am talking to a chick from a third world country and she tells me the amount of something is not much. Then when I tell her to pay it, it is crickets. [B]It is not much money when it is coming out if your pocket, but it is a lot of money when it is coming out of theirs.[/B].

I know a chick that pays the babysitter 30 K to keep a kid overnight. That babysitter would need to keep 13 kids for that kind of dosh.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2928555]I have been mongering since I was 15 years old and #6 is totally correct concerning hookers. [B]Higher prices almost never means higher quality[/B]. I absolutely have seen no correlation anywhere in the world (mongered on five continents) between the price I paid the hooker and how good the experience was. None. Zero.[/QUOTE]I have seen the exact opposite. The best experiences I have ever had were with the girls that cost more. And the best looking girls I have been with, also cost more. The only thing I agree on is that higher price does not guarantee a better service, which varies on a case by case basis.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2928508] Then when I tell her to pay it, it is crickets. [B]It is not much money when it is coming out if your pocket, but it is a lot of money when it is coming out of theirs.[/B].

I know a chick that pays the babysitter 30 K to keep a kid overnight. That babysitter would need to keep 13 kids for that kind of dosh.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Not even talking about her paying it directly, gents just ask for 300 mil discount, since it's not a lot of money after all and it's not even going out their pocket anyway, and see how not a lot magically turns into the opposite.

It's not a lot of money for foreign mongers which is what counts really. Girls seem to be convinced that someone will come along eventually and pay it, since they are happy to reportedly pass on lowball offers if the night is young and just wait, and, reportedly it does appear that many mongers pay those asking prices without negotiation, so here we are. Yes, if all mongers would unionize and said 100 mil max the hos would just take it and still be happy (beats slaving in normal job 8 h-10 h for 50 mil) but that's never going to happen. More tourists equals more overspending and overbidding one another equals rising ho prices. Understandably whoring is appealing to many chicas for this reason, where else would they get a week, 2 week or even month's local salary just for one 'date' and without that much effort ("ah, but it's so hard to wait whole night wearing high hills" bithc please).

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2928604]I have seen the exact opposite. The best experiences I have ever had were with the girls that cost more. And the best looking girls I have been with, also cost more. The only thing I agree on is that higher price does not guarantee a better service, which varies on a case by case basis.[/QUOTE]But that's because you're heavily focused on looks and I'm not. I'm heavily focused on sex. The best looking woman I ever fucked was also some of the best sex, but that was merely a coincidence from a sample size of hundreds. She was also very inexpensive so I rest my case.