Filipinas - Opinions and Advice

[QUOTE=Pheasantplucker;2703738]I have a long term GF in PI and am sure I am the only guy supporting her.

I haven't been able to visit her during the Covid period and will be returning in October but, in the meantime, we are discussing an increase in the allowance I send her.

She reckons that she needs P700-800 daily for food and drink alone so lets say P20 k per month.

Is that reasonable?

I also send her cash for other expenses on an ad hoc basis BTW.

All constructive comments appreciated.

PP.[/QUOTE]If you believe you are not the only guy supporting her, 20 k is too much IMO. Also need to factor in where she lives and lifestyle. Is she in a boarding house? Condo? Meals are home cooked?

I've seen people be fine with 5 k a month.

[QUOTE=Pheasantplucker;2703738]I have a long term GF in PI and am sure I am the only guy supporting her.

I haven't been able to visit her during the Covid period and will be returning in October but, in the meantime, we are discussing an increase in the allowance I send her.

She reckons that she needs P700-800 daily for food and drink alone so lets say P20 k per month.

Is that reasonable?[/QUOTE]Stop being kuripot. Send her 30,000.

[QUOTE=Pheasantplucker;2703738]I have a long term GF in PI and am sure I am the only guy supporting her.

I haven't been able to visit her during the Covid period and will be returning in October but, in the meantime, we are discussing an increase in the allowance I send her.

She reckons that she needs P700-800 daily for food and drink alone so lets say P20 k per month.

Is that reasonable?

I also send her cash for other expenses on an ad hoc basis BTW.

All constructive comments appreciated..[/QUOTE]Sounds high to me, but as mentioned you need to consider the location. When possible I ask for receipts for everything and send money when bills are due and food weekly. 2,500 php week feeds 1 adult and 3 children. Shopping at AC markets and home cooked. Lots of fish and vegetables. And 1 k for my GF for food that also covers motorbike gas and misc items.

Need get breakdown of everything as they will tend to misuse your money IMO.

[QUOTE=Pheasantplucker;2703738]I have a long term GF in PI and am sure I am the only guy supporting her.

I haven't been able to visit her during the Covid period and will be returning in October but, in the meantime, we are discussing an increase in the allowance I send her.

She reckons that she needs P700-800 daily for food and drink alone so lets say P20 k per month.

Is that reasonable?

I also send her cash for other expenses on an ad hoc basis BTW.

All constructive comments appreciated.

PP.[/QUOTE]20 k is above poverty and survival. Not a luxury lifestyle. Usually it takes 3 in the family working to add up to 20 k a month.

An old person in the province living on rice and sardines would barely survive on 5 k a month. Providing there is no rent to pay.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2703804]20 k is above poverty and survival.[/QUOTE]20 K is what a good BPO job will pay, so top pay for doing nothing.

Entry level BPO jobs will pay around 13-14 K / mo. Crap jobs in province (like local bakeries etc) maybe 3-5 K.

[QUOTE=Pheasantplucker;2703738]I have a long term GF in PI and am sure I am the only guy supporting her.

I haven't been able to visit her during the Covid period and will be returning in October but, in the meantime, we are discussing an increase in the allowance I send her.

She reckons that she needs P700-800 daily for food and drink alone so lets say P20 k per month.

Is that reasonable?

I also send her cash for other expenses on an ad hoc basis BTW.

All constructive comments appreciated..[/QUOTE]Do you remember the story of the "Fisherman and his Wife?" I realized some time ago to never get deeply committed to a Filipina. Ultimately the reason for this is that Filipinos were a colonial and downtrodden people for centuries and as a culture this has contributed to a ruinous stereotype of Westerners. That stereotype-the naive tourist to be beguiled from his money; the walking ATM machine, the Santa Claus with socks and heavy shoes in the tropics-will stymie trust and intimacy. I have found that it's a great party until my money runs out. Then my Filipina friends fade away.

[QUOTE=Pheasantplucker;2703738]I have a long term GF in PI and am sure I am the only guy supporting her....

All constructive comments appreciated.

PP.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to be as constructive as possible:

1/ Everyone thinks their girl is different.

2/ Any girl capable of hooking a whale for 20 k per month plus ad hoc sick buffalos and dying uncles has likely played the game before.

3/ any skilled girl (see 2/ above) knows how to keep 2, 3 or 10 guys on the go, each thinking they are her only Sponsor and true love.

4/ if you have been unable to visit for a year or two, what have you received for 250 to 500 k? Only you will know if it was money well spent. That sort of money pays for a hell of a holiday when you do arrive.

Do I think sponsoring a Pina is worth it? No.

Do I think you are her only sponsor? No.

Is 20 k a good monthly salary? Yes.

Is 20 k a good salary for essentially doing nothing all day? Definitely.

When I'm there in town, have I ever had a girl refuse to see me because I didn't send her money while away? Never.

Sorry if these are not what you want to hear but in all probability your situation isn't any different to many others.

Good luck. G.

[QUOTE=Pheasantplucker;2703738]She reckons that she needs P700-800 daily for food and drink alone so lets say P20 k per month..[/QUOTE]Call center girls are working 5 days a week nightshift for a P20 K salary which is then deducted taxes, SSSS, pagibg plus her travel costs, so maybe P14 k in hand.

[QUOTE=Pheasantplucker;2703738]I have a long term GF in PI and am sure I am the only guy supporting her.[/QUOTE]PP you didn't say where she is from. If she is from the province, cost of living is considerably cheaper than the big cities. I lived in the province for a year or so at the start of pandemic. Minimum wage there I believe was just over p300 for an 8-hour shift. Working 6 days a week would be p1920. Monthly pay would be p7680. Many employers ignore that wage completely and offer p300/ day, slightly below the minimum. Other jobs that don't require documents (ie, a resume) to obtain (ie, washing your neighbor's clothes) might make as little as p100/ day.

Compare that with the NCR (Manila) minimum wage of p486 / day, or p2916 / week, and p11,664 / monthly.

[URL]https://www.nwpc.dole.gov.ph/stats/current-real-minimum-wage-rates/[/URL]

I'm with the other gents in my cynicism. Its entirely possible that she has other sponsors (whether they visit with her or not). There's nothing wrong with sending her money. A general rule of thumb on the amount: Are you sending an amount (either monthly, or in past total) that would keep you awake at night if you found out that she had other sponsors, or a local pinoy boyfie, other foreign visitors, or she had terribly wasted / mis-spent your money (ie, she was spending it on her pinoy beau)? Sorry if these questions bite.

I have sponsored 5 Girls over the years. All for education. Except 2 who did not graduate and dropped out 3 did well and got good jobs. 2 went to Middle East and are doing well.

I sent 10000 pesos each month plus off and on extra for other things. I do not sponsor just to keep her as a GF although all of them stay with me when I visit. I have stayed near their colleges and have met her college friends. It does not bother me if she is sleeping with other men. With that mindset I am at peace.

[QUOTE=Pheasantplucker;2703738]I have a long term GF in PI and am sure I am the only guy supporting her.

I haven't been able to visit her during the Covid period and will be returning in October but, in the meantime, we are discussing an increase in the allowance I send her.

She reckons that she needs P700-800 daily for food and drink alone so lets say P20 k per month.

Is that reasonable?

I also send her cash for other expenses on an ad hoc basis BTW.

All constructive comments appreciated.

PP.[/QUOTE]Even thought I'm in your same situation (I have a girlfriend in Philippines for 3 years), I have to agree with everyone here, you can not be sending her money unless she is "sick" and she can not work, or in a "wheelchair" and she can not find a job, or you guys just had a baby and she needs to take care your baby, other than that she is young so she can work.

That's why is important to put in your dating profile: No GOLD DIGGERS or ESCORTS! You got to have a job and not be Lazy!

Is OK to send money on her Birthday or Christmas, or when you go visit her and you ask her to quit her job so you can spend time together and travel around Philippines, that's different, you can pay for her while you are living together for afew months and also you can pay when you go back until she finds a job, but she needs to find a job ASAP when you leave, like within a month or two, if you find the right woman and she is hard worker, it will come from her and you don't need to say anything.

And by the way is easy to find a job in an agency in a big city like Manila or Cebu, once they know her that she is a hardworker her agency will rehired her, is good to have friends in the agency also, so they can rehired you back after you quit. You can make 20 K a month from an agency (6 days a week), and 20 K for her only is more than enough, unless of course she is supporting her family.

[QUOTE=Goferring;2703878]I'm trying to be as constructive as possible:

1/ Everyone thinks their girl is different.

2/ Any girl capable of hooking a whale for 20 k per month plus ad hoc sick buffalos and dying uncles has likely played the game before.

3/ any skilled girl (see 2/ above) knows how to keep 2, 3 or 10 guys on the go, each thinking they are her only Sponsor and true love.

4/ if you have been unable to visit for a year or two, what have you received for 250 to 500 k? Only you will know if it was money well spent. That sort of money pays for a hell of a holiday when you do arrive.

Do I think sponsoring a Pina is worth it? No.

Do I think you are her only sponsor? No.

Is 20 k a good monthly salary? Yes.

Is 20 k a good salary for essentially doing nothing all day? Definitely.

When I'm there in town, have I ever had a girl refuse to see me because I didn't send her money while away? Never.

Sorry if these are not what you want to hear but in all probability your situation isn't any different to many others.

Good luck. G.[/QUOTE]I would encourage any of you with similar concerns to read G's sound advice carefully, and take it to heart. I have no idea how many people the girl in question is "helping," but the notion of needing Php600 per day or more for food or drink for personal consumption here is absurd, unless she's reluctant to prepare / cook her own food. I have heard the "I know, but my girl is different." comment from countless (clueless) foreigners in the more than two decades that I've lived here, and my advice, which is identical to that proffered by G, is typically ignored. Folks are, of course free to spend their money, without judgment, however they please, but should do so, I think, based on at least some reliable knowledge of how their money is being spent.

GE.

[QUOTE=Sammon;2703930]I have sponsored 5 Girls over the years. All for education.....

I have stayed near their colleges and have met her college friends....[/QUOTE]You raise a couple of valid points:

1/ before upping an allowance, what has PPs considerable assistance todate actually financed? Has she built a house, a small business, a college degree? Or has it all gone to "consumption" ie partying with her girlfriends?

2/ Asians really can be judged by the company they keep. If a girl's friends are all students, working at SM etc, then you can have a lot of confidence that she is making an effort to get ahead. If all her friends are unemployed party girls dependent on foreign "boyfriends" then alarm bells should be ringing.

The above is not to disparage PP or his girl but some indications on how to check the validity of what girls say.

Cheers. G.

Many thanks to one and all for the comments and info on this.

I really appreciate your input and now know which direction to take.

Happy days to you all.

PP.

Hello, I'm new in this Forum, I'm Don Malo a Luxembourg male that want to go to Philippines in 6 months un order to find a real girlfriend. I had a lot of problems with my occidental ex girlfriends and I want a change in my life.

If I had a girlfriend I never would fuck with other girls, but I can acepta a hooker as a girlfriend, I'm not jealous and I understand that the prostitution is only a job.

Even so, I prefer meet a girl that don't work as a prostitute.

I will join to filipinocupid and made me a Revolut credit wallet so as to use un Philippines.

Do you think that would be easy find a girlfriend in Philippines? I want a good girl in order to make children after one year or relation (or before). And she will must come with me to Luxembourg.

Still exists restrictions of covid in Philippines?

I will be only 26 days.

I'm around 30 years old.