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[QUOTE=Ramn HK;1273194]Another alternative is to invite your lady friend to go have a drink I am reluctant to give up my room key.[/QUOTE]Good strategy. Never give your card to new found friends. If you do, front desk can reprogram new card.
[QUOTE=Chantik; 1272970]Think he was referring to non-GF friendly (from a man's point of view. Cause girl must be picked up in the lobby) because you need a card to access the lift.
No problems with most hotels from a guys point of view. Never experienced a guy having to pay extra to bring the girl back to his room.
Girls point of view. Some hotels are difficult. Make you register. Don't allow you up to the rooms after a certain time. As an example. The Excelsior / Royal Plaza Hotel.[/QUOTE]Chantik, I am a bit confused.
1. Do you mean that it is never a problem if a girl is escorted up by a hotel guest?
2, It is a problem at some hotels because concierge requires a visitor to register before letting them access a hotel guest's floor?
3. Concierge does not allow visitors up between certain hours but the hotel guest can personally escort said guest upstairs without a problem?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Ramn HK; 1273194]Another alternative is to invite your lady friend to go have a drink at the top of Panorama which has an enviable view. Since this is a restaurant / bar open to the public, she should have no problems getting up there.
Same with Totts at Excelsior.
Meet up with her for a drink and let her enjoy the view which will definitely make her more amenable to suggestions later on in the room.
Chantik's suggestion works well too, but I am reluctant to give up my room key.
Have fun![/QUOTE]All this talk of GF hotel has got me wondering where I should stay.
I chose JJ in Lucky Centre, WC after considering its proximity to the action. I haven't checked out Panorama or Excelsior.
I was also looking for in-room massage action. Any suggestions would be gratefully accepted. My last 2 visits went without any major action.
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[QUOTE=Ramn HK; 1273194]Another alternative is to invite your lady friend to go have a drink at the top of Panorama which has an enviable view. Since this is a restaurant / bar open to the public, she should have no problems getting up there.
Same with Totts at Excelsior.
Meet up with her for a drink and let her enjoy the view which will definitely make her more amenable to suggestions later on in the room.
Chantik's suggestion works well too, but I am reluctant to give up my room key.
Have fun![/QUOTE]Your suggestion doesn't always work for single ladies.
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[QUOTE=Ramn HK; 1273194]Another alternative is to invite your lady friend to go have a drink at the top of Panorama which has an enviable view. Since this is a restaurant / bar open to the public, she should have no problems getting up there.
Same with Totts at Excelsior.
Meet up with her for a drink and let her enjoy the view which will definitely make her more amenable to suggestions later on in the room.
Chantik's suggestion works well too, but I am reluctant to give up my room key.
Have fun![/QUOTE]Panorama is a great place to take a date Ramn, you are right on the money here.
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[QUOTE=Jackthelad2; 1272999]I'm sure Chantik will confirm the going rate for a DW is $500.
As regards my skills, yes, I have introduced the concept of paying me instead of the other way round on the basis they are going to have a good time, and it always guarantees a laugh (but sometimes not much more). I think you must have have overheard my lines of conversation with the girls to have mentioned that here in public! My cover is blown! (LOL) [/QUOTE]Jack, your tales here make me smile as I remember many similar exploits and adventures shared by myself and several crazy friends.
Remember, $500HKD is the MOST you should pay for a DH, they are usually much less and often free. This has been debated previously on this forum, suffice to say, advice on pricing from a provider must come with a certain amount of bias and self interest, especially when livelihood is at stake.
Some timely truths to remember when in Hong Kong.
a) Don't believe the hype. Ever.
b) Surprises are everywhere when it comes to DW in Hong Kong. Think outside the box.
c) Work on your 'game; ' grooming, presentation, intelligence and manners pay huge dividends in Hong Kong.
d) Be confident without being arrogant, Clever without being a smart-arse, humorous without putting others down. These attitudes are part of the psyche in Hong Kong; quiet confidence wins you kudos in the bar every time.
e) Hong Kong is always about oversupply. Don't get caught up in the 'shortage mentality,' and think you need to pay over the odds. There is huge power in smiling and walking away from ridiculous pricing quoted by those who think you don't know better. Other ladies in the bar are watching and will be impressed, they know all too well that supply in Hong Kong always outstrips demand and it's a buyers market. Agree to stupid pricing and everyone is laughing at you as you leave the bar. It's all over at that point.
Stay safe
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[QUOTE=Lewis And Clark; 1273318]Jack, your tales here make me smile as I remember many similar exploits and adventures shared by myself and several crazy friends.
Remember, $500HKD is the MOST you should pay for a DH, they are usually much less and often free. This has been debated previously on this forum, suffice to say, advice on pricing from a provider must come with a certain amount of bias and self interest, especially when livelihood is at stake.[/QUOTE]Enjoyed posts likewise. But heck, someone has to pay retail and support / make the market! LOL!
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Sorry for the Confusion
I clearly fucked up my description of my hotel dilemma in my last report. What I should have said is that the hotel I was staying in would have been a challenge for an outcall escort visit. The bellmen at this particular hotel challenged everyone coming into the ground floor entrance for their room card that allowed access to the lobby floor and beyond.
My description implies that GFs were not allowed upstairs- no. I should have described to suggest taht I just didn't want to head down to the lobby to find an escort that I've never met before. That was my issue. It seems as though many more hotels in China and now Hong Kong are switching to this access procedure.
Sorry for the trouble.
EP
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EP.
Key access to lifts, nosy bellboys etc is not a hotel being non-girl friendly.
A non-girl friendly hotel would charge you an extra fee to bring the girl to your room.
After all it could be your best friend, brother, sister who can't visit your room without key access. It is higher security.
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Guys, as a service provider, I need to say sorry for providing you with wrong information about pricing. I must have been quoting too high a price for D / H.
Even though on many occasions, I have advised to ONLY pay D/H 500 max.
Whose comprehension is failing ?
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[quote=chantik; 1273377]ep.
key access to lifts, nosy bellboys etc is not a hotel being non-girl friendly.
a non-girl friendly hotel would charge you an extra fee to bring the girl to your room.
after all it could be your best friend, brother, sister who can't visit your room without key access. it is higher security.[/quote]this problem is easily solved. ask for 3 keys at when checking in. quite normal. you need one for the "power control" unit thats generally in most hotels.
you need one for yourself, and one thats "the spare" to be given to whoever you might want to come to your room.
of course as soon as she's come to your room and then gone, you go and say "keycard not working". that requires providing you with a new keycard, rendering the old ones obsolete.
the alternative of course is to meet the unknown escort in the lobby whereby you smile and greet at each other like old friends, and walk to elevator with that " don't bother me please mr bellman, i'm just so happy to be meeting my old friend again" look. that brooks no interference. a straight back, confident stride and eyes on the girl, muttering sweet nothings, works to limit the amount of interference from bellpeeps
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Paying DHs
[QUOTE=Chantik; 1273381]Guys, as a service provider, I need to say sorry for providing you with wrong information about pricing. I must have been quoting too high a price for D / H.
Even though on many occasions, I have advised to ONLY pay D / H 500 max.[/QUOTE]It is a quandary what is the right amount to pay a DH. Is paying them a bad thing?
First is the issue of paying a normal girl for sex, and encouraging / motivating her to become a WG. If she has not asked for pay what is the proper and polite thing do to? Drinks, dinner, a good time would seem mostly to be sufficient. Maybe buy her a gift on route? Especially if you will see her again, you don't want to turn it into a working relationship.
If on the other hand you are passing through and this is a onetime thing, maybe it is sometimes appropriate. I would guess $500 is about right. Would it really make a difference to you if it were $400? $300?
Generally if I girl is looking to be paid, she will let you know. Else, why make it commercial?
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[quote=freebiefan;1273480]the alternative of course is to meet the unknown escort in the lobby whereby you smile and greet at each other like old friends, and walk to elevator with that " don't bother me please mr bellman, i'm just so happy to be meeting my old friend again" look. that brooks no interference. a straight back, confident stride and eyes on the girl, muttering sweet nothings, works to limit the amount of interference from bellpeeps[/quote]unless, of course, she is wearing fish-net tights, a skimpy mini and a low cut top! (lol)
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[QUOTE=Jackthelad2;1273569]Unless, of course, she is wearing fish-net tights, a skimpy mini and a low cut top! (LOL)[/QUOTE]Don't laugh. It happens all the time around the world. Very hard to keep a straight face in the elevator. Bit through my lips a couple of times. LOL.
Worse if it is an offspring of someone you know and she is just on her way to a roof top club.
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[QUOTE=Chantik; 1273381]Guys, as a service provider, I need to say sorry for providing you with wrong information about pricing. I must have been quoting too high a price for D / H.
Even though on many occasions, I have advised to ONLY pay D / H 500 max.
Whose comprehension is failing?[/QUOTE]
No need to apologise, you're only human like the rest of us. As a provider, what do you advise as your ST and LT rate?
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[quote=freebiefan; 1273480]this problem is easily solved. ask for 3 keys at when checking in. quite normal. you need one for the "power control" unit thats generally in most hotels.
you need one for yourself, and one thats "the spare" to be given to whoever you might want to come to your room.
of course as soon as she's come to your room and then gone, you go and say "keycard not working". that requires providing you with a new keycard, rendering the old ones obsolete.
the alternative of course is to meet the unknown escort in the lobby whereby you smile and greet at each other like old friends, and walk to elevator with that " don't bother me please mr bellman, i'm just so happy to be meeting my old friend again" look. that brooks no interference. a straight back, confident stride and eyes on the girl, muttering sweet nothings, works to limit the amount of interference from bellpeeps[/quote]very accurate. can see that you have had a few girls visit you.
think guys should pay attention to the post.