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On BBC's Newsnight show on 20/02/2014 there was a item on prostitution and thoughts on changes in the law in the UK. It featured a visit to Paradise in Stuttgart and an interview with a WG there.

They show work on a Paradise in Saarbrucken which is opening to exploit more cross border customers with the changes in French laws.

A short version of the visit is on the BBC news website at:-

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26261223[/url]

The full program is at the link below but it will only be up for a week and probably only viewable in the UK.

[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b03w7wd2/Newsnight_20_02_2014/[/url]

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1533473]How do you get 35% with platinum? I've read the criteria, and it says 15% off if you rent 10 times a year.[/QUOTE]Qualified several years ago. Maybe I'm grandfathered in.

[QUOTE=JayJay28; 1535596]I've read a lot in this forum but reading too much can also confuse you more and more. I have the chance to come up to Düsseldorf in a couple of weeks and trying to check one of the FKK or Saunaclubs around. I guess the following 3 clubs will be reachable by me without big problems: Dolce Vita, Haus Panthera and Living Room.

Considering the follwoing points which one should I visit:

- Lineup of the girls (mixed nations inkl. Asian, beauty, number of girls avaiable or to choose)

- Approach of the girls (I like it more that the girls approach me as the first step than I have to do the first step. I like to "speak" with the eyes.

- Kissing: A bit DFK before the room to "convience" me to join her in the room.

Any help is welcome!

JJ[/QUOTE]I cannot give you a straight recommendation, since all three do not include all of your criterias.

First I haven't been to Panthera, so I cannot help you there.

In terms of likely chances of good service and DFK, I would head to LR. Couch action can be had here if you are into that. Lately line-up has been reported to be good so it's highly recommended. The thing is I don't see mix nationalities here, I found mostly Romanians. You will see public kissing here, and you are likely to get kissing outside the room, but typically kissing mean committing to a room. If you refuse to go to a room after she kisses you, a girl is not going to take that kindly.

DV has qualities that LR may not have such as more diversity on the girl's mix. I've seen some chocolates and Asians on my visits, and not mainly filled with Romanians. Then again, my recent visit it's being fill with Romanians more. I've seen a few Germans there as well. There are couches here, and couch action can be had depending on the girl I suppose. DFK is to be less likely here than LR. This place can be hit or miss. Check out the website to see what you should expect for the line-up. I haven't seem public kissing happen here very much, I've seen once instance with a polish girl in the couch section with an Asian man.

http://www.dolce-vita.com/girls

Both these clubs has girls either approach or show sign of interest, so you should have no problems there. As for Panthera, it's listed by FreeDude as being one of the service oriented clubs so I would think it's up there in terms of pre-room time with a girls and DFK more so than the other two. As far as the line-up, I cannot comment how comparable it is or what types of girls are there. As far as approach here, not sure if non-approach is strictly enforced here like more service oriented clubs usually does. I would think DFK before room would be most common here given that it's often mentioned as a service oriented club.

FreeDude and Maxime are the go to punters for service oriented club info. Hopefully they can chime in on this.

Hi seniors,

Please guide about pricing policy for first 30 mins and next 30 mins and next 30 mins, in general and the following clubs in particular.

Acapulco.

Haus panthera.

Golden time.

Dolce vita.

Oase.

Sharks.

World.

Which clubs are 50/50/50 and which ones are 50/25/25?

Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE=IndiMann; 1536106]Hi seniors,

Please guide about pricing policy for first 30 mins and next 30 mins and next 30 mins, in general and the following clubs in particular.

Acapulco.

Haus panthera.

Golden time.

Dolce vita.

Oase.

Sharks.

World.

Which clubs are 50/50/50 and which ones are 50/25/25?

Thanks for the help.[/QUOTE]I know Acapulco is 40/40.

Dolce vita should be 75/h, but not sure if girls try to do 100/h as I've never had a session I wanted to prolong there.

Goldentime is typically 50/25/50/25. Or 75 / h, but some girls will demand 100 / h I've heard of a new girl doing 50/25/25 there, but it's rare.

You did not list Living Room, but I've read girls do 50/25/25 there.

Hessen clubs are all the same. 50 constant.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker; 1536363]I know Acapulco is 40/40.

Dolce vita should be 75 / h, but not sure if girls try to do 100 / h as I've never had a session I wanted to prolong there.

Goldentime is typically 50/25/50/25. Or 75 / h, but some girls will demand 100 / h I've heard of a new girl doing 50/25/25 there, but it's rare.

You did not list Living Room, but I've read girls do 50/25/25 there.

Hessen clubs are all the same. 50 constant.[/QUOTE]DV is 50/50/50. There was a 35/15min option before 8pm, but not any more. They recently installed the new rooms (more than 20) , so the room waiting will not happen any more. During the big Messe, the entrance fee is up 65E after 8pm. Better to check the web site before visiting the club.

In case of LR, many times the girls demand 100 / h.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker; 1536363]Goldentime is typically 50/25/50/25. Or 75 / h, but some girls will demand 100 / h I've heard of a new girl doing 50/25/25 there, but it's rare.

You did not list Living Room, but I've read girls do 50/25/25 there.[/QUOTE]Official rate at Golden Time and Living Room is 50+25+25+25+25. So 90 minutes is 100€. Of course as you imply not many girls may allow it and will try for the 100 per hour tariff. Of course you can also refuse this offer of 100 per hour. You have to look for the girl that will offer 50+25+25+25+25, but it mainly offered by girls to regular guests or guests that they may like and at times to newbies.

Samya does indeed have the 50+25+50+25+50+25 tariff structure.

[QUOTE=JayJay28; 1535596]I've read a lot in this forum but reading too much can also confuse you more and more. I have the chance to come up to Düsseldorf in a couple of weeks and trying to check one of the FKK or Saunaclubs around. I guess the following 3 clubs will be reachable by me without big problems: Dolce Vita, Haus Panthera and Living Room.

Considering the follwoing points which one should I visit:

- Lineup of the girls (mixed nations inkl. Asian, beauty, number of girls avaiable or to choose)

- Approach of the girls (I like it more that the girls approach me as the first step than I have to do the first step. I like to "speak" with the eyes.

- Kissing: A bit DFK before the room to "convience" me to join her in the room.

Any help is welcome!

JJ[/QUOTE][QUOTE=PussyLiccker;1535969]FreeDude and Maxime are the go to punters for service oriented club info. Hopefully they can chime in on this.[/QUOTE]Ok then. Giving the criteria you mention, I think Panthera will indeed be the best choice. Close to Dusseldorf Airport, relax atmosphere, ALL girls offer DFK, and most of them on the couch (or even BBBJ on the couch). They do not animate, but are not completely silent / expression-less like the fashion dolls in Acapulco and it is normal to chat a little, and then either go the room, or not. No Zimmer-stress. Between 15 and 25 girls present (see website for examples) , of course many Rumanian (but with good service!) , some very good Bulgarian, also few Polish, one African, one German, sometimes some from south America.

In LR there are more girls, and they tend to me a but more beautiful, but you have to get lucky on the service front.

Dolce Vita you can avoid, optic is ok (but not top-level) but don't expect any foreplay or DFK or anything (and you can be lucky with one or two good girls).

Enjoy!

[QUOTE=JayJay28; 1535596]I have the chance to come up to Düsseldorf in a couple of weeks

JJ[/QUOTE]Flying into what city? Almost sounds like your flying into Frankfurt and you want to head "up" to Dusseldorf.

[QUOTE=Maxime;1537227]Ok then. Giving the criteria you mention, I think Panthera will indeed be the best choice. Enjoy![/QUOTE]Thanks for the information. Sounds as a good advice. I guess I'll have to try it.

I agree with Maxime, Panthera girls don't look that great but more couch time. DV not much couch time. Food at all three places are similar.

Food at Acapulco is best left alone.

Yes, if service is weighed more than optics, perhaps Panthera is better. I don't like the number of girls. 15-25 is not a lot compared to other clubs. I personally recommend LR over Panthera because of the number of girls available since it would provide wide range of choices when it comes of looks and you'll find girls to provide couch action also, and I've experienced kissing with majority of the girls there. I've experienced kissing on the couch, and I've seen punters making out with girls on the couch. I see lots of couch action during the evening. Some girls provide that, and others that don't hang out in the bar area. Food is often very good, and they serve extended period there, and there are varieties of beer that is included to the entry fee.

I would agree DV is on the bottom of the list when it comes to service.

Only service oriented club I've been to is F39, and I didn't think the service was better than what I got from other clubs. Why go there if I can get good service with better looking girls, large number of girls, better atmosphere (it's rather dull at F39) to choose from? I go there to check if there is a gem in there from time to time, which is always possible, and it's good to have a day club on the list since most clubs doesn't get going til the evening. I believe F39 is 50 constant, I wish it was 25 after first half, then it would be more worthwhile.

Are all service oriented clubs like F39, quiet, girls sitting on the couch, not much else going on?

Thanks for all the good info on this forum about the different clubs. Can somebody please tell me which fkk / sauna clubs provide free beer or liquor with your paid entry fees in the NRW. Which one do you guys think has the best of free alcohol and best line up ladies as well. Thanks in advance. Also what do you guys think of the club Yin Yang.

[QUOTE=Chasing;1538020]Thanks for all the good info on this forum about the different clubs. Can somebody please tell me which fkk / sauna clubs provide free beer or liquor with your paid entry fees in the NRW. Which one do you guys think has the best of free alcohol and best line up ladies as well. Thanks in advance. Also what do you guys think of the club Yin Yang.[/QUOTE]Living Room and Golden Time both have extensive array of free beers both bottled and on tap. I don't recall if they have liquor, but if they do it is for purchase.

Surprizingly, Oase gives free booze- grappa or Sambuca with espresso only. Beers are 10 euro.

Best alcohol offer and worst line-up: Bernd's = Schieferhof. All the booze you want is free.

HB