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[QUOTE=TheCane;3028142]Also when she removes her fake hair. As a young man, I was surprised to find out how many women of all ethnicities are wearing fake hair and hair pieces. Fake faces, fake brows, fake hair. Fake tits, fake asses. Man![/QUOTE]Did I mention the fake nails and lashes too? Everything about a woman is fake, often even including her professed love for you. It's all fake, except for her strong desire to separate you from your money!
[QUOTE=VanessasClient;3028110]I think many of the people who have replied about the US dating market have some valid points. We could spend the next decade on this forum debating the matter, but I believe the bottom line is this: most men in the US are not happy with their amorous lives. If they were, wouldn't be having this conversation. Not just on ISG, but all over the internet, and in various podcasts, public discourse, and pretty much everywhere else. My personal suspicion is that this will not change any time soon, if ever.
I think part of the issue is that men and women have experienced very little biological change when compared to historical times. Men, to a grand ratio, still have much higher testosterone levels than women, and want sex much more frequently. But, we are no longer running around as hunter gatherers, and bringing more food back to the camp than the tribesman standing next to you, and thus winning sex from the lady's seal of approval. Technology has managed to accomplish many great things, but it's also thrown a gargantuan wrench into how sexual relationships used to function. Attributing some of that to modern birth control methods..[/QUOTE]As someone said here we are always paying for pussy one way or another. Some like the most socially acceptable pussy like marriage and most folks here like pros or semi girls. What you see today with women is the fallacy that they think they can have it all. Fuck a lot of men and suck some clueless romantic guy for his assets and leave him clean. Having money and attention from other men.
Then if women can do that? Why can't I keep fucking only hotties til I die?
[QUOTE=Zeta0;3028120]At least you should do a charge back. They don't deserve your money.[/QUOTE]Yeah, but given their now mandatory identity verification, as well as info gleaned from the card used to make payment, it's very likely they have most guy's personal information now. There are numerous stories of Seeking sending collection agencies after their male members. I have no reason to doubt these stories. In the long term it could cost more. The risk of debt collectors coming after you goes down when the merchant in question is smaller, and does not have the easily accessible resources or experience to hire collection agencies, like Seeking does.
[QUOTE=Hhann;3028130]Am more than convinced that Seeking is an online pro / semi-pro / wannabe WGs market place. Most SB's I have come across are wannabe's, and at some point in time categorically WGs.
Men think they are wise to throw money, attains premium member tag and finds their 'targets', then Seeking works to their advantage, but short lived as any online flare-bubbles.
From a woman's point of view, at a click of a button and few messages, she gets access to rich men competing each other for private time with her.
So why not put on some extra make up and photoshop filters to glorify those pics!
It is simply a supply & demand theory implemented online, very wisely![/QUOTE]Having the premium membership does little to attract female members. I get girls contacting me all the time, in between the months my premium membership is not active. The catch is that you cannot send messages to female members without the paid subscription. They can send messages to you, but you cannot read them without premium. The girls that are contacting me are seeing other things in my profile that are drawing their attention; not the premium membership.
[QUOTE=VanessasClient;3028278]Yeah, but given their now mandatory identity verification, as well as info gleaned from the card used to make payment, it's very likely they have most guy's personal information now. There are numerous stories of Seeking sending collection agencies after their male members. I have no reason to doubt these stories. In the long term it could cost more. The risk of debt collectors coming after you goes down when the merchant in question is smaller, and does not have the easily accessible resources or experience to hire collection agencies, like Seeking does.[/QUOTE]So basically I'm screwed on my own unless I get a buddy of mine to make an account on my behalf and just get the log in and a burner card? Damn LOL.
[QUOTE=WaltoDerri;3028416]So basically I'm screwed on my own unless I get a buddy of mine to make an account on my behalf and just get the log in and a burner card? Damn LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying you can't file a chargeback, I'm just saying it probably carries some risks. Also I think when you agree to the terms of service when you sign up, they mention something about paying additional fees / fines if they have to send collections after you. Very few people read the TOS in its entirety. You could try and have someone you know create a smurf account, but I'm guessing it would have to be someone who REALLY trusts you, and has no objection to sticking their neck out for you. There's articles about methods to try and "beat" facial recognition, but I cannot attest to their effectiveness.
[QUOTE=TheCane;3028142]Also when she removes her fake hair. As a young man, I was surprised to find out how many women of all ethnicities are wearing fake hair and hair pieces.[/QUOTE]More common among the black girls, to have wigs. I had one from Nigeria whose hair came off during sex, in my bed. Was shocked she really was bald!
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;3028592]More common among the black girls, to have wigs. I had one from Nigeria whose hair came off during sex, in my bed. Was shocked she really was bald![/QUOTE]Too damn funny LOLOLOL! But you might be surprised (or maybe not) just how many white women are wearing wigs or hair pieces and extensions to make their hair look fuller. I know I was since people will say exactly what you did. That's why it surprised me what I found due to the stereotyping.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;3028592]More common among the black girls, to have wigs. I had one from Nigeria whose hair came off during sex, in my bed. Was shocked she really was bald![/QUOTE]Saw a black girl in Nashville a few times. Not really my jam. First time with a black girl in 25 years or so.
Interesting tho.
First of all, I couldn't really tell if she was black. She was light skinned and kind of looked Asian. But spoke with a black voice affectation. But that's not always telling. It wasn't till I asked her where her parents are from and she seemed confused and she was like " Atlanta, and Louisiana" that I fully got it.
But then when we were banging it was clear she had extensions. I mean when you're right up to somebody's face, you can really tell when you can't see a clear scalp to hair transition.
And then I just straight up, asked her if she had extensions. Of course, she said yes. And she asked me how I can tell. And of course, I did not say it's because you obviously didn't pay very much for them and got the cheap version. I'm a gentleman. Not really but I like writing that.
Then when we woke up there was black dye on my sheets. I felt I had to leave 20 bucks and a contrite note to the maids to get out of a penalty on that one. Actually the first night I literally reversed the sheets myself so that the head was the feet and the feet were the head so the stains were hidden. Second night I just coughed up the tip.
Oh black chicks.
How can we encourage more men and SBs to jump ship to SDM? The customer service is much better. I reported a rinser and in less than 24 hours they actually did something about it. Unlike seeking where I reported constantly and they never did shit but I get reported on once and I'm banned for life. Fucking scumbags.
Anyways if you have SDM already keep an eye out for "Ana bloom" some weird British girl (or dude) claiming to "need a deposit to meet" LOL.
[QUOTE=WaltoDerri;3028772]How can we encourage more men and SBs to jump ship to SDM? The customer service is much better. I reported a rinser and in less than 24 hours they actually did something about it. Unlike seeking where I reported constantly and they never did shit but I get reported on once and I'm banned for life. Fucking scumbags.
Anyways if you have SDM already keep an eye out for "Ana bloom" some weird British girl (or dude) claiming to "need a deposit to meet" LOL.[/QUOTE]Don't use Sugardaddy Meet or whatever it's called. Total scam. Pay per message. I know girls who have been on there and tell me the site was sending Messages from them to guys! They weren't sending the messages. The site was. To get guys to engage with them and spend money. And they were like wtf I didn't contact you. Scam. Period.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3028781]Don't use Sugardaddy Meet or whatever it's called. Total scam. Pay per message. I know girls who have been on there and tell me the site was sending Messages from them to guys! They weren't sending the messages. The site was. To get guys to engage with them and spend money. And they were like wtf I didn't contact you. Scam. Period.[/QUOTE]Yep. I used it twice. Never met anyone. It was abundantly clear that they have fake profiles sending you messages so you have to use credits to read them, and they never say anything. And they have lots of people listed as online, and it's super clear they have not been online anytime recently, if they ever were. They're just propping up old and inactive accounts and serving them up to you as fresh.
Still working to crack this nut.
Anyone used privacy dot com virtual cards to pay for seeking, with good experience or bad?
Open to DM also if you prefer.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;3028781]Don't use Sugardaddy Meet .. Pay per message. Scam. Period.[/QUOTE]You are confused. SugarDaddyMeet is a different site than the pay per message site. Same monthly or 90 day membership fee.
I have had very good luck on SDM site, better than I had on than seeking, and especially since seeking banned me a couple years ago. More amateurs and less pros.
[QUOTE=NeilGeorge;3029390]You are confused. SugarDaddyMeet is a different site than the pay per message site. Same monthly or 90 day membership fee.
I have had very good luck on SDM site, better than I had on than seeking, and especially since seeking banned me a couple years ago. More amateurs and less pros.[/QUOTE]What's the name of the similar sounding site? Can we get clarification on the domains please?