German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1945469]First, I want to thank you all for all the advices. I just spent a weekend with someone outside the club for the very first time. Overall, the experience was good. I can narrow down to the following topics:
.[/QUOTE]I just can't picture Germany being the place to take an escort out for a night on the town after doing it a dozen times or more in Thailand. Lounging by the pool watching the sun set over the water and having the girl stay the entire night after dinner and drinks with a bustling city at your feet to keep things hopping. Germany just doesn't compare although I'm sure there are area's suited for late night parties etc.

[QUOTE=BadinSweet;1945469]First, I want to thank you all for all the advices. I just spent a weekend with someone outside the club for the very first time. Overall, the experience was good. I can narrow down to the following topics:

[B]Smoking[/B] She also made a similar comment like. What is it with the guys. They always want to have sex in the morning! LOL.

[B]Money[/B] - now this part, I actually spent just as much, if not more, than what I normally would spend at the club.But knowing what I know now, specially the smoking situation, next time, I won't be too eager to go with someone outside the club. Unless I really fell in love with her.[/QUOTE]Waking up horny is a biological thing for guys, hence the term, "morning wood. " In my experience, for some reason, girls universally seem to not like sex in the morning, at least the ones who are being honest. Yes, sometimes they will be polite and pretend, but when they are being honest, sex is the furthest thing on their mind in the mornings after just waking up.

On the money front, yes, this is true in Germany. Other locations, like St. Martin in the Caribbean, Costa Rica, and Colombia, are much cheaper for long bookings or toda-la-noche (or toda-el-DIA). So, you may be more economically incentivized to do long, all day or all night bookings in some of these other places.

Have done a lot of escort days in Frankfurt, always with FKK club favs of me. Despite I'm non smoker I always book a smoking room. That isn't so easy anymore bc many hotels are complete non-smoking but I know meanwhile the good hotels in the Frankfurt area with smoking rooms.

I usually book my escort girls for around 12 hours from 4 pm till 4 am and sent them then home. From experience I know we both sleep better alone and the other reason is that almost most of my favs don't like sex in the morning therefore really better separate at night.

I prefer sundays for escort in Frankfurt bc hotels are cheap, less busy and shops are closed LOL. Shopping doesn't happen often. Sometimes we go out, I know meanwhile even smoking bars in Frankurt, sometimes we stay whole time in room and order room service food.

I think a previously agreed upon, fixed price is the best way to go. Leaving it open ended can be fraught with risks, as both parties can have different expectations. OK, if it is a girl with who you did this multiple times, it is fine, as you know now what to expect. But first time, she might expect something and you think something else. I would negotiate a fixed price, what time to what time, what will she do and won't do (like CIM, and other extras if that's your thing). And perhaps give a tip at the end if you are happy with the service and the overall experience.

That said, sounded like you had a great experience. As others said, you should book a smoking room unless you know for sure the girl is not a smoker (very few of them are non smokers). Makes it easy. Thanks for the very nice report, Badin.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1945478]I just can't picture Germany being the place to take an escort out for a night on the town after doing it a dozen times or more in Thailand. Lounging by the pool watching the sun set over the water and having the girl stay the entire night after dinner and drinks with a bustling city at your feet to keep things hopping. Germany just doesn't compare although I'm sure there are area's suited for late night parties etc.[/QUOTE]I would take her to beautiful church and get BJ right in the church LOL!

I wounder what is the impact on our hobby if Deutsche bank collapse? Who cares about the rest of the world, I am worried about FKK hobby.

[QUOTE=Jblack;1945820]I wounder what is the impact on our hobby if Deutsche bank collapse? Who cares about the rest of the world, I am worried about FKK hobby.[/QUOTE]Less clients, more girls, both due to sudden poverty LOL.

Bad economy is plus for mongers, it is just that we have to make sure we are the one with the money LOL.

All of my previous visits to Germany / Europe were either in spring or fall / winter, so I was planning to do a summer trip late July next year before I heard about this new prostitution law come into effect from July 1st. Is the situation (as for as services are concerned) in clubs going to be same up and until end of June?. I am wondering if the girls change their behavior few months before the eventual law taking effect and start charging extra for BBBJ, DATY or refuse to do those services without protection. What do you guys think?

Are any of you planning trip (s) to NRW and / or Hessian in June?

[QUOTE=Jblack;1945820]I wounder what is the impact on our hobby if Deutsche bank collapse? Who cares about the rest of the world, I am worried about FKK hobby.[/QUOTE]None, I think.

Even if DB equity declines even more, it would be recapitalized or something similar would happen. It is too important for Germany for them to let it go the way Lehman was allowed to go bust.

Now, if Romanian economy were to suddenly zoom up into stratosphere, and every Romanian household became quite rich, that would be something to worry as there would be a huge shortage of girls. So, we should all pray to our FKK gods to keep Romania in poverty and make Czech Republic and Poland also similarly poor LOL.

[QUOTE=Lalabo;1945895]All of my previous visits to Germany / Europe were either in spring or fall / winter, so I was planning to do a summer trip late July next year before I heard about this new prostitution law come into effect from July 1st. Is the situation (as for as services are concerned) in clubs going to be same up and until end of June?. I am wondering if the girls change their behavior few months before the eventual law taking effect and start charging extra for BBBJ, DATY or refuse to do those services without protection. What do you guys think?

Are any of you planning trip (s) to NRW and / or Hessian in June?[/QUOTE]Nothing will change prior to July 1st. It will be business as usual. After July 1st though, we must wait and see.

So, I guess the law goes into effect a June 30, stroke of midnight. If a girl is in the middle of giving a BBBJ, the clock chimes 12 and she has to stop and slip on a rubber hurriedly? LOL. I bet June 30 will be a busy day at the clubs, with a lot of nostalgia.

I wonder if the clubs will be required by law to post instructions and take other measures to inform and enforce. What is the burden placed on clubs? Just inform the public, or hire some resources to enforce, or something else? Is there any risk to the club if they are proved to be lax in enforcing, or if there are way too many violations found at a specific club. Hefty monetary penalty, risk of losing license, etc?

For example, if a BBBJ was being given in the open lounge at Oase, in broad view of club personnel. The client is clearly liable, but is the club too?

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1945918] I bet June 30 will be a busy day at the clubs, with a lot of nostalgia.[/QUOTE]I think so too. June 30th is a Friday a good day for a "farewell party" at the clubs. Hmm prohibition in the US last 13 years.

[QUOTE=Jnpr30;1945918]
I wonder if the clubs will be required by law to post instructions and take other measures to inform and enforce. What is the burden placed on clubs? Just inform the public, or hire some resources to enforce, or something else? Is there any risk to the club if they are proved to be lax in enforcing, or if there are way too many violations found at a specific club. Hefty monetary penalty, risk of losing license, etc?

For example, if a BBBJ was being given in the open lounge at Oase, in broad view of club personnel. The client is clearly liable, but is the club too?[/QUOTE]Clubs must only inform (with signs) that for sex (oral, anal and vaginal) there is an obligation to use condoms. And the club must have enough condoms, no other obligation or fine for clubs at the condom duty.

Public BBBJ I think we hardly will seen this than. If somebody see this I'm sure club will react. I remember more than five years ago when working girl and a client fucked at Oase cinema without condom. Security came immediately and both had to leave the club.

Interesting comparison between ban on condomless sex and prohibition. I guess from our point of view, the feminazis and others that aggressively pushed this protection agenda could be compared to the Drys, though there is no Carrie Nation today thankfully, going around and barging into rooms with a hatchet looking to smash stuff, thank god, LOL.

The Drys claimed there were major problems with alcoholism and violence and so many social ills, while it is hard to know what harm BBBJ caused to anyone. In the end, prohibition failed partly because enforcement was so difficult and partly because it had a real impact on the economy. Not only taxes, but even on the agri and business community, so much so that even many prior Prohibitionists became anti.

So if we stretch this analogy, enforcement could be even more difficult here for obvious reasons, but I am not too sure this will have any impact on the broader economy. Clubs will still exist, and people will still indulge in paid sex condom or not, and in any case the contribution of prostitution to Germany economy is likely much less than alcohol on the US economy of 1920/ s.

Finally 13 years is too long. I hope it is not that long. By then, I could be dead or lose all interest in sex. LOL.

[QUOTE=Craiova;1945953]Clubs must only inform (with signs) that for sex (oral, anal and vaginal) there is an obligation to use condoms. And the club must have enough condoms, no other obligation or fine for clubs at the condom duty.

Public BBBJ I think we hardly will seen this than. If somebody see this I'm sure club will react. I remember more than five years ago when working girl and a client fucked at Oase cinema without condom. Security came immediately and both had to leave the club.[/QUOTE]If girls begin to only give condom blowjob, I am switching to Austria or Switzerland for my mongering trip. But let see, it is like Artemis, when police raid, it was said that the rate will change, actually it did not and it got better upsell wise in Artemis after the raid, girls told me that they have girls meeting to keep things as it is due to losing clients if they begin to mess about with current prices.