Cartagena Reports

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1690477]
I don't have an objection to buying a drink or even to pay a modest cover charge but I do have a problem with paying up to $50 just to meet girls as many end up in the Plaza at some point anyway. So, how much do you have to buy in drinks?[/QUOTE]I was there for 5 nights in January. I pulled two girls from there. No one talked to me about buying limits. The first girl I bought myself 2 drinks and her one drink, and we left without an issue. The second girl, I had the same amount of drinks, and the girl had two, again, we left without any issues.

So, I guess I don't understand what everyone is talking about.

I would think that if you look at it that you are paying $50 just to meet girls, then you should probably just pass on LDV all together and file it under different strokes for different folks.

If I buy a half bottle or full bottle of aguardiente, the amount I paid was for the liquor, the service, the music, the dancing, the vibe, etc. It's a bar and the amount I paid the bar was because I want to enjoy drinking the alcohol they sell there. That there are freelance chicas there is all gravy. You know, let's rumba!

In all the times I've been to CTG, I can count on less than one hand the times I've gone to a casa and I've never banged a chica there or taken one out. Why should I go there? There's no reason for me. Just like some guys enjoy going to a bar and think nothing of spending $50 - $100, other guys enjoy casas and think nothing of paying the bar fine, the house fee that's included, their taxi fare to get there and back, etc. There's no right or wrong, or one better than the other; we aren't all the same and have different likes and dislikes. One size doesn't fit all.

Guys who don't want to go to bars to spend money to drink should probably do just that, not go to the bar. Then there's nothing to complain or gripe about toward a bar that is in business to turn a profit.

Just one man's point a view.

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1690477]I go to Cartagena about once per year and usually stay in ElCentro so rarely stray to LDV as I find the pickings to the discriminating traveler in Reloj to be more convenient. The two occasions I did go to LDV, I was asked to buy an expensive drink for the lady before I left, which I found off putting as I already had purchased my own drink.

I have since read on this forum that it's expected one purchase a minimum amount or somewhere in the range of $50. Once I read that, I decided not to go at all since in my view there is generally enough talent in the plaza on any given night and the drinks purchased from the outdoor kiosks there are cheap. Plus, it's outside and you can actually have a conversation with the girl or other people.

I don't have an objection to buying a drink or even to pay a modest cover charge but I do have a problem with paying up to $50 just to meet girls as many end up in the Plaza at some point anyway. So, how much do you have to buy in drinks?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hilltopper;1690785]I would think that if you look at it that you are paying $50 just to meet girls, then you should probably just pass on LDV all together and file it under different strokes for different folks.

If I buy a half bottle or full bottle of aguardiente, the amount I paid was for the liquor, the service, the music, the dancing, the vibe, etc. It's a bar and the amount I paid the bar was because I want to enjoy drinking the alcohol they sell there. That there are freelance chicas there is all gravy. You know, let's rumba!

In all the times I've been to CTG, I can count on less than one hand the times I've gone to a casa and I've never banged a chica there or taken one out. Why should I go there? There's no reason for me. Just like some guys enjoy going to a bar and think nothing of spending $50 - $100, other guys enjoy casas and think nothing of paying the bar fine, the house fee that's included, their taxi fare to get there and back, etc. There's no right or wrong, or one better than the other; we aren't all the same and have different likes and dislikes. One size doesn't fit all.

Guys who don't want to go to bars to spend money to drink should probably do just that, not go to the bar. Then there's nothing to complain or gripe about toward a bar that is in business to turn a profit.

Just one man's point a view.[/QUOTE]You must stop using so much logic.

[QUOTE=Tomjackin;1690564]I was there for 5 nights in January. I pulled two girls from there. No one talked to me about buying limits. The first girl I bought myself 2 drinks and her one drink, and we left without an issue. The second girl, I had the same amount of drinks, and the girl had two, again, we left without any issues.

So, I guess I don't understand what everyone is talking about.[/QUOTE]It is a little confusing, since what you did is what everyone does in bars.

People are unhappy about change. One thing that has changed is that some LDV girls will now "ask" or "pester" (depends on your perspective) you to buy them drinks. In the past, that would not happen at all. You could cut a deal and go. It used to be, you could walk in and walk out with a stunning young woman and come back a couple of hours later for another. No quibbling about drinks. You would still be on fine terms with the owner / operator. You could buy drinks and tip freely in a very easy going atmosphere.

It makes sense that LDV should make some money on the deal, but nearly everyone, regardless if they are "cheap" or not, seems to agree LDV is no longer the center of gravity for women in Cartagena. It's not the best place to meet girls. You may have been lucky, but the women you meet there generally have worked there for years, watch the clock and want you to buy them a drink in order to signal territory to the other woman in the club. You can meet more attractive, younger and less jaded women working the streets or at the clock tower.

So historical perspective gets in the way when going into LDV. It is depressing knowing how things were even a short time ago. It seems like nearly all the attractive young Colombians are working sex cams. The fact that some woman, who you might wish could have just stayed home with her kids, is looking to hustle a drink is hardly a real problem. It's just a little reminder that things have changed.

[QUOTE=JellyDonut;1690851]It is a little confusing, since what you did is what everyone does in bars.

People are unhappy about change. One thing that has changed is that some LDV girls will now "ask" or "pester" (depends on your perspective) you to buy them drinks. In the past, that would not happen at all. You could cut a deal and go. It used to be, you could walk in and walk out with a stunning young woman and come back a couple of hours later for another. No quibbling about drinks. You would still be on fine terms with the owner / operator. You could buy drinks and tip freely in a very easy going atmosphere.

It makes sense that LDV should make some money on the deal, but nearly everyone, regardless if they are "cheap" or not, seems to agree LDV is no longer the center of gravity for women in Cartagena. It's not the best place to meet girls. You may have been lucky, but the women you meet there generally have worked there for years, watch the clock and want you to buy them a drink in order to signal territory to the other woman in the club. You can meet more attractive, younger and less jaded women working the streets or at the clock tower.

So historical perspective gets in the way when going into LDV. It is depressing knowing how things were even a short time ago. It seems like nearly all the attractive young Colombians are working sex cams. The fact that some woman, who you might wish could have just stayed home with her kids, is looking to hustle a drink is hardly a real problem. It's just a little reminder that things have changed.[/QUOTE]As the old saying go's, but things are changing. I've been to many chica bars and clubs in my career and I never have been forced to buy a girl a drink. That goes for Help (did charge a cover), Terrazzo Atlantica in Rio. The Del Rey in CR, Tequila Rock in Miraflores, Peru and countless bars in Bogota and Cali. That being said, it's just standard procedure to buy a drink when you walk into a place and unless your a troglodyte you should offer the girl a drink if you invite her to sit and talk to you. The man deserves to make a living, he's not running a free club for mongers. I guess if more guys showed a little class he would not have to resort to these kind of tactics.

Thinking about hopping up to the North coast from MDE for a 2 nights. Never been to Colombia so I'm new to both destinations. VivoColombia has been the referenced airline for a trip from MDE to CTG. I've been reading thru the post but have not found any specific info on casas. I saw a mention which leads me to think that there might be some possible spots in CTG. But I'm not sure if there are any at all. Guessing that the preferred options are LDV and the clocktower. Thoughts? Anyone.

Mr. Furley, for CTG casas Look at the compiled listing made by World travel 69 located in the CTG List threat: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1146393[/URL].

La Casa del Rosio / House of drew Distric Bruselas, Calle Benjamin Herrera (transversal 42) #24-34 (Bruselas). Nice selection of women here from all over Colombia. They all live there. There is a bar and the rooms are there. They charge a fixed rate of 150000 pesos (less than $70 US with current exchange rate). Take a taxie or a public bus to Bruselas if you are brave enough to go that way. I found the place via public bus and the casa is a few blocks away from the main park in Bruselas. Just note that nobody knows Calle Benjamin Herrerain Bruselas but they know Transversal 42.

And there is a map too here with some info (there is an ISG member that did not like that I posted this map / link but I find it has valuable information): [URL]http://www.revistadonjuan.com/multimedia/mapa-de-putas-colombia[/URL].

Hope you enjoy your trip. I am heading there too in May or June this year.

Cerebro

[QUOTE=MrFurley;1691271]Thinking about hopping up to the North coast from MDE for a 2 nights. Never been to Colombia so I'm new to both destinations. VivoColombia has been the referenced airline for a trip from MDE to CTG. I've been reading thru the post but have not found any specific info on casas. I saw a mention which leads me to think that there might be some possible spots in CTG. But I'm not sure if there are any at all. Guessing that the preferred options are LDV and the clocktower. Thoughts? Anyone.[/QUOTE]

I was there for 5 days I go about every 2 -3 months. Fuck I been home less then 15 hours and miss it already. Really have nothing to say that hasn't been said already. Really like one girl that I have seen last few months. Spent most of my time with her. Any thing specific just pm me.

Bottom line great time.

I wish I could go back tomorrow. But will have to wait till June.

I can't stand Casas but there are a few but never been. Good luck.

[QUOTE=MrFurley;1691271]Thinking about hopping up to the North coast from MDE for a 2 nights. Never been to Colombia so I'm new to both destinations. VivoColombia has been the referenced airline for a trip from MDE to CTG. I've been reading thru the post but have not found any specific info on casas. I saw a mention which leads me to think that there might be some possible spots in CTG. But I'm not sure if there are any at all. Guessing that the preferred options are LDV and the clocktower. Thoughts? Anyone.[/QUOTE]

If you ARé not interested in the histórical sites el centro I would consider Santa Marta. Much cheaper for everything. RTFF and you will find some reports from me in October about SM. They have an airport or you can Mini bus from CTG.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1692156]I can't stand Casas but there are a few but never been. Good luck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MountainMen;1693194]It's remarkable that you act like such a big shot when in fact you hide behind multiple names here. I'm relatively new to ISG, but it's obvious that you are mere bluster with nothing constructive to add. I know Hilltopper, and you couldn't carry his jock, regardless of your "name de jour". Fortunately you are but an irrelevant annoyance on this great site.[/QUOTE]I have been to CTG, and Santa Marta with Old Parr many times. He knows more about those two areas than anyone else I know. Anyone who appears like a decent fellow then he will respond to any PM with a wealth of knowledge. Just today I have a friend who is going to Santa Marta tomorrow. He asked me about resturants in that area. I got in touch with OP, and he gave me two spots that I know are great, but I did not

Remember the names of the resturants.

I am not usually the one to play the post card, but with two post under your belt it would seem to me to contribute a little more before you blast other members.

Hi guys,

I'm going to Cartagena in a few days, staying 4-5 days, and haven't yet booked a place to stay. Have read the forum but didn't find much info on hotels. Are all hotels chica friendly? Or do they charge high fees, or even refuse visitors? Should I go for an apartment instead of a hotel? Would be very grateful for some tips on where to stay, and what to think about.

Also, anyone interested in meeting up for a drink and explore the city together, PM me! I'm 40, North European.

Thanks!

Many hotels in El Centro are NOT chica friendly. In fact, the higher you pay, the more stringent their rules. However, if you RTFG you will see that there are short term hotels inside the old city that will suffice for a quickie.

[QUOTE=NordicTom;1693374]Hi guys,

I'm going to Cartagena in a few days, staying 4-5 days, and haven't yet booked a place to stay. Have read the forum but didn't find much info on hotels. Are all hotels chica friendly? Or do they charge high fees, or even refuse visitors? Should I go for an apartment instead of a hotel? Would be very grateful for some tips on where to stay, and what to think about.

Also, anyone interested in meeting up for a drink and explore the city together, PM me! I'm 40, North European.

Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tomasb;1693414]Many hotels in El Centro are NOT chica friendly. In fact, the higher you pay, the more stringent their rules. However, if you RTFG you will see that there are short term hotels inside the old city that will suffice for a quickie.[/QUOTE]Thanks, yes, I've seen about the short term hotels, but I like the TLN experience, and like the comfort of being in my own place, so would much prefer a chica friendly hotel (don't min paying a reasonable fee), or apartment.

I have rented an apartment on Calle Moneda for about $90 per day. It actually has a standard type room with veranda facing the street. They also have a one bedroom apartment with kitchen for $125 or so. Also comes with a veranda. I found it through Air BNB. No issues with girls as you come and go without any management or owners around. A local guy gives you the key for entry.

Calle Moneda is close to Plaza Madrid and very convenient to the El Reloj.

[QUOTE=NordicTom;1693509]Thanks, yes, I've seen about the short term hotels, but I like the TLN experience, and like the comfort of being in my own place, so would much prefer a chica friendly hotel (don't min paying a reasonable fee), or apartment.[/QUOTE]