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[QUOTE=Bionicman;1275304]Age of consent does not mean a 30yo man can have sex with a 16yo girl. One should also have a look at the law of his own country to determine the broadness of his action. If, for the sake of argument, a country allows sex between a 15yo girl and an old wig of 60o my, but HIS country doesn't do that and requires the partners to be at least 25, the guy will be in serious trouble. Legal age is what counts, not age of consent (that might allow a degree of sex between two guys of the same age group, ie boy and girl both 16-17).[/QUOTE]In HK 16 means 16 and they can have sex with any age.

In my land of origin it is 15 and ditto.

I do not intend to do this, but I don't think it is as dangerous as some of you seem to believe.

[quote=johnny rocket;1276695]in hk 16 means 16 and they can have sex with any age.in my land of origin it is 15 and ditto.i do not intend to do this, but i don't think it is as dangerous as some of you seem to believe.[/quote]each one is entitled to his own opinion and take his own risk (and by saying i do not mean "you" are going to do it or intend to, but "in case someone feels that the law is on his side" and does it, well i can only say "good luck". he might non be able tho' to report back as he will be entitled to only one phone call, and better he does that to his lawyer.

we definetely have a different opinion and for me age of consent 16 means a 15 or 17 yo gilr can have non p4p sex with a guy of his age group without it being rated [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].

a man of (lets say) 25 or 30 or more having sex with a consenting girl of 16yo will be charged with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], no matter what she says. period.

check around, please.

[quote]while the phrase age of consent typically does not appear in legal statutes,[1] when used in relation to sexual activity, the age of consent is the minimum age at which a person is considered to be legally competent to consent to sexual acts. the european union calls it the legal age for sexual activities. it should not be confused with the age of majority, age of criminal responsibility, the marriageable age, the voting age, the drinking age, driving age, or other purposes. laws vary widely, and while most polities set the age of consent in the range 14 to 18, with the average age being 16,[2] outliers with ages of consent as low as 12 and as high as 20 exist.[/quote][url]http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm[/url]

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Bionic Man.

Good post.

This group of students from a school in the New Territories targetted married Caucasian men.

And we are talking men over the age of 35.

They weren't interested in young men.

99% of the time you are fine. But there is always a chance.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1276132]Hi All,

Finally managed the chance to check out the Wanchai scene last weekend.

I was eager to get laid on the first night. Found New Makaki first, there were women all over me and I smelt that something was not right. What I later found out is that I had walked into a go go bar next door and my weary eyes had misread the sign. Still took a girl back to my room, but it was way more expensive than it should have been and the experience could have been better.[/QUOTE]Consider it a lesson, an experience to reflect on. Sounds like lots of grabbing and mauling went on! Did you get stung for heaps of ladies drinks?

[QUOTE=Switched; 1276132]Finally managed the chance to check out the Wanchai scene last weekend. I was eager to get laid on the first night. Found New Makaki first, there were women all over me and I smelt that something was not right. What I later found out is that I had walked into a go go bar next door and my weary eyes had misread the sign. Still took a girl back to my room, but it was way more expensive than it should have been and the experience could have been better.

Headed out on Saturday night, was out from 9pm. Went to Forest, NM, Neptunes II + III, found it really heard finding anyone decent, [/QUOTE]Hi Switched, I find your report very interesting. Regarding the bar you mistakenly went into and the girl you bar fined; How would you rate the girl as far as looks and performance goes. And how much did you spend on her? Also, did the bar clip you on expensive drinks or try to pad your tab?

I have walked past these bars many times and I have seen some real stunners hanging out by the front door. I never tried any of these bars because 1. The word is they are rip off joints and 2. They were always empty of customers when I took a look inside. Two very bad signs not to go further. I always wondered though, about the hot girls standing outside and inviting me in. Some of them are 7* to 8*

As you noted it is getting harder and harder to find genuinely good looking girls in the usual places like Neptune's, Forest and Escape. Last time I was in town: After hitting 3 bars and coming up empty, I found a very attractive Thai girl in Escape that I had no 2nd doubts about, that I knew from the first look she was beautiful. So I bar fined her. The rest of the girls I saw were iffy at best. Another night I saw what appeared to be a very sexy looking Indonesian girl in New Makati. She smiled at me and we talked a little. She seemed ok, but even up close, it was too dark to be sure, so I passed.

On Sunday afternoon, I met a very sweet Indonesian DH at Forest. We dirty danced for a couple of hours so I took her back to my hotel room. She was a nice girl and the sex was good, but I would not call her a stunner or anything close to it. I am trying to be kind here. She was however, the 2nd best looking girl in the bar. Which tells me a hell of a lot about the quality of DH's. The best looking girl in the bar was definitely cute 7* but she was taken by this guy who was bigger than I am. LOL. The bar was packed with DH's that Sunday, but the quality was an issue.

As a result of this lack of quality in Wanchai, I moved on. Another night I ran into a real pretty Chinese FL on Mody (500hk ST) and on my last night in town, I splurged with a Korean 141 reservation Hottie. So all in all, I did pretty good in HKG scoring a very pretty Thai girl, a sweet girl next door type DH, A sexy PRC girl, and a hot Korean, but I had to look for it.

Next time I am in HKG, I think I am going to stay in East TST and make forays to Wanchai instead of the other way around. But getting back to your experience, Switched, tell us about the quality of the wrong bar girl you took home.

[QUOTE=Lewis And Clark;1276749]Consider it a lesson, an experience to reflect on. Sounds like lots of grabbing and mauling went on! Did you get stung for heaps of ladies drinks?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Brown Rail; 1276625]I laughed so hard. How many times have the girls in that downstairs bars tried to misdirect you. In fact, that is probably their business model.

How much did that wrong turn cost you?[/QUOTE]The quality of the girls there were quite high. Mostly Filo's, but I ended up with a Thai lady. Ended up paying $1200 for 2 hours after a lot of negotiation, and probably another $200 or $300 or so in drinks. There were another couple of westerners in the clup, all had 2-3 girls around them. Occasionally a girl would pole dance but would not strip.

The mamasan was very pushy on the drinks side and the girls mostly drank shots, but when the mamasan went away, one of the girls asked not to be bought any more drinks and to give her some money instead.

The lady was in her early 30's at a guess and was pretty good when she made it to my hotel nearby, however, it was not the HK experience I was hoping for and personally had more fun with the helpers on Sunday. If I had realised my mistake earlier, I would have tried my fortunes elsewhere. The worst thing was the pushiness of the mamasan inside the club. I never said no to anything that I did not want to, however, I can see how guys get trapped in there who are a little more vulnerable than myself.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1276777]As you noted it is getting harder and harder to find genuinely good looking girls in the usual places like Neptune's, Forest and Escape. Last time I was in town: After hitting 3 bars and coming up empty, I found a very attractive Thai girl in Escape that I had no 2nd doubts about, that I knew from the first look she was beautiful. So I bar fined her. The rest of the girls I saw were iffy at best. Another night I saw what appeared to be a very sexy looking Indonesian girl in New Makati. She smiled at me and we talked a little. She seemed ok, but even up close, it was too dark to be sure, so I passed.

On Sunday afternoon, I met a very sweet Indonesian DH at Forest. We dirty danced for a couple of hours so I took her back to my hotel room. She was a nice girl and the sex was good, but I would not call her a stunner or anything close to it. I am trying to be kind here. She was however, the 2nd best looking girl in the bar. Which tells me a hell of a lot about the quality of DH's. The best looking girl in the bar was definitely cute 7* but she was taken by this guy who was bigger than I am. LOL. The bar was packed with DH's that Sunday, but the quality was an issue.

As a result of this lack of quality in Wanchai, I moved on. Another night I ran into a real pretty Chinese FL on Mody (500hk ST) and on my last night in town, I splurged with a Korean 141 reservation Hottie. So all in all, I did pretty good in HKG scoring a very pretty Thai girl, a sweet girl next door type DH, A sexy PRC girl, and a hot Korean, but I had to look for it.

Next time I am in HKG, I think I am going to stay in East TST and make forays to Wanchai instead of the other way around. But getting back to your experience, Switched, tell us about the quality of the wrong bar girl you took home.[/QUOTE]The Saturday night was far more difficult than I was expecting. I started talking to some helpers for 10 mins early in the night before they left for curfew, then had trouble speaking to anyone else after that, and as the night went on, girls were fewer and further apart.

I didn't need to leave the real NM on Sunday. The place had about 90% females, but only 5-10% interested me. I saw one stunner sitting alone bopping her head to the music, did some dirty dancing (she was a great dancer) , offered her a drink, she refused. Sat talking to her for a bit regardless and she was complaining about how her friend kept going with guys for money and leaving her to dance on her own. After another 5 or so minutes it became obvious that she was not going to leave the club so I hunted for greener pastures. She was a very nice girl and if my HK stay was months I would have certainly put some effort in, but considering that I was on holidays, thought it best to leave her for a better guy.

Had several girls try to dance with me that did not interest me too much and I put my mind to the 5-10. Found one who was enthusiastic enough. 8pm curfew and this one was overly keen. She had left her friends to dance and I was able to seal the deal in about 20 minutes. Walked to my hotel and had a productive couple of hors with her. She was keen as mustard to do everything that was requested and was a bit emotional when I took out a rubber, suprised at how thoughtful I was. She was happy with the $500 at the end and wanted to meet me this weekend. If only I could have stayed longer.

I think what I learnt most about Wanchai is that timing is everything. I don't think I'd try so hard at the bars outside of 3pm-6pm on a weekend. I definitely want a return visit, but dominos will have to fall first.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1276777]Hi Switched, I find your report very interesting.

As you noted it is getting harder and harder to find genuinely good looking girls in the usual places like Neptune's, Forest and Escape.

As a result of this lack of quality in Wanchai, I moved on.[/QUOTE]I totally agree, Mr. Bumpo, about the slipping quality of the Wan Chai scene and probably ought to follow your example and try some other avenues of fun.

But, naturally, old habits die hard. Last night it was raining buckets and when the skies cleared briefly I headed over to the district. About 11 pm Escape had perhaps five girls to 50 men or so. Circled the bar, paid my respects to the doormen and headed out. Amazonia was also a sausage-fest, Neptune II better odds but still the Star Wars Cantina crew of WGs. I would return later for an hour or two to Nep II, where I saw a DH semipro, a woman I had spent a day in Stanley with last year. Though she is nice Filipina with a body that belies her age of about 40 (eight kids back home) and she gives a fabulous CIM BJ I don't want her to become clingy (and she knows the ropes so that wouldn't be likely to happen.

Headed over to New Makati from there. At 11:30ish the odds were in the girls' favor, though it would even out by around 12:30 and then work to the men's side by 1ish.

My impression still holds that the girls there are a little more fun-loving than some of the other joints. Escape, for me, is just total crap. There are a few stunning girls, yes, but they had been taken, and by younger and fairly fit fellows. I am doubtful that that means they get a discount. And the WGs I did encounter seemed to have a bit of an attitude. Still, I really didn't make any attempt to get my game on, so that may play into things to be fair.

And on the subject of Neptune II, has anybody else noticed the increasingly shitty attitude of the bar staff? They really seem to have contempt for the customers. And with the smoking, I'm going to migrate away from the place. It tends to get the leftovers from the other bars, anyway. And many of the regular WGs there have absolutely no sense of humor, even discounting for the fact that English is not their primary language. Did almost pull a very attractive 28 year old Thai who asked HK $1K for three hours. It was about friggin' 5 in the morning, so I just decided to head home alone. I told her at that time of day that perhaps a LT arrangement (at the $1K) would have been a better deal, but she wasn't going to move. Made things all the easier.

Future posts will include riveting details of sexual romps, I promise.

[quote=bionicman; 1276702]each one is entitled to his own opinion and take his own risk (and by saying i do not mean "you" are going to do it or intend to, but "in case someone feels that the law is on his side" and does it, well i can only say "good luck". he might non be able tho' to report back as he will be entitled to only one phone call, and better he does that to his lawyer.

we definetely have a different opinion and for me age of consent 16 means a 15 or 17 yo gilr can have non p4p sex with a guy of his age group without it being rated [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].

a man of (lets say) 25 or 30 or more having sex with a consenting girl of 16yo will be charged with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url], no matter what she says. period.

check around, please.

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[url]http://www.ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm[/url][/quote]all understood. but i happen to be a solicitor and i've read the hk law and feel confident that my interpretation is correct with regard to hk. i am not saying i would do this or encourage anyone else but i think it is an interesting conversation to have from a theoretical perspective. there's so much pussy available i'm not sure why anyone would do this. 141 girls often have school uniforms for cosplay which is a much safer way to get this particular thrill if you're into it.

i was actually arrested once in hk, i won't say for what but it was completely unrelated to sex. once the police figured out that i knew the score and would not back down in fear but intended to fight and had the letter of the law on my side they dropped the matter and nothing ever happened.

[quote=johnny rocket; 1276946]all understood. but i happen to be a solicitor and i've read the hk law and feel confident that my interpretation is correct with regard to hk. i am not saying i would do this or encourage anyone else but i think it is an interesting conversation to have from a theoretical perspective. there's so much pussy available i'm not sure why anyone would do this. 141 girls often have school uniforms for cosplay which is a much safer way to get this particular thrill if you're into it.

i was actually arrested once in hk, i won't say for what but it was completely unrelated to sex. once the police figured out that i knew the score and would not back down in fear but intended to fight and had the letter of the law on my side they dropped the matter and nothing ever happened.[/quote]fully agreeing on the fact we are debating theory and i also agree there is so much pussy around there is no need of venturing to risky path. but our theory might become reality for others as there is people indulging on low age (at the edge of being ****) so i feel correct and appropriate information has to be given. internet generates a lot of urban legends and we do not have to add our own based on feelings. being yourself in the legal world you know well laws can be interpreted and that sometime depends on the judge himself.

i friendly stand still on my opinion, not forgetting that lots of mongerers are not citizens of the mongering country (say, fir argument, allowing sex between s 16yo girl and a 50yo wig) , but of countries with more restricted laws. you might survive the law of teensexyland but when back home in restrictedsexland the authorities might be if a different opinion and keep you in custody till the trial starts. this us something a lot of mongerers tends to underestimate.

having said that, a girl well above legal age is far more preferable, performance being the first reason.

[QUOTE=Switched; 1276909]The quality of the girls there were quite high. Mostly Filo's, but I ended up with a Thai lady. Ended up paying $1200 for 2 hours after a lot of negotiation, and probably another $200 or $300 or so in drinks. There were another couple of westerners in the clup, all had 2-3 girls around them. Occasionally a girl would pole dance but would not strip.

The mamasan was very pushy on the drinks side and the girls mostly drank shots, but when the mamasan went away, one of the girls asked not to be bought any more drinks and to give her some money instead.

The lady was in her early 30's at a guess and was pretty good when she made it to my hotel nearby, however, it was not the HK experience I was hoping for and personally had more fun with the helpers on Sunday. If I had realised my mistake earlier, I would have tried my fortunes elsewhere. The worst thing was the pushiness of the mamasan inside the club. I never said no to anything that I did not want to, however, I can see how guys get trapped in there who are a little more vulnerable than myself.[/QUOTE]1200 for 2hrs. Very cheap.

Usual price in the Go Go's is about 2000.

I am amused at the discussion about Stunners.

Not many stunners male or female in the world. And doubt few work in the sex industry.

Of course one guy's stunner, is not the next guy's stunner.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1276974]1200 for 2hrs. Very cheap.

Usual price in the Go Go's is about 2000.[/QUOTE]The first price quoted was closer to that mark, and about $3500 for an overnight, but I managed to bargain them down.

I think it helped that I had bought them some drinks.

[QUOTE=Johnny Rocket; 1276695]In HK 16 means 16 and they can have sex with any age.

In my land of origin it is 15 and ditto.

I do not intend to do this, but I don't think it is as dangerous as some of you seem to believe.[/QUOTE]This will be my first and last post on this topic.

I slept with a 16yo once. Back then, I was 18. Even then, I regretted it later and lost a friend because of it.

Whether this is legal or not can be a discussion for the morally bankrupt. If you cannot find a girl in her 20's, particularly in HK you are doing something wrong. At least give the girl a couple of years so that she is fully aware of what she is doing and happy to be doing it.

As has been pointed out in an earlier post, a few streetwalkers can be found soliciting behind the market stalls, on the sidewalk (typically the left side when walking north). Some seem game to entertaining gweilo. Today (Saturday) strolled by a girl with glasses, nice clean uni look. She kind of looked at me and raised her eyebrows in the universal "hey sailor" look, but did a little double-take when she realized I was not Asian. I walked to the end of the block, mulling the possibility, figured what the hell and turned around. Within about five minutes she had been joined by two others, one particularly cute, with bangs and a tight-fitting blue dress. Very nice. I discreetly said hello to which the girl shook her head no. Ouch. One of those Lisboa racetrack moments (though I have had success at that venue). But always deflating when a streetwalker turns you down!