Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=Steve9696;3033351]Haha. Was suppose to say 5 to 8 times. Not 58.[/QUOTE]First of all, I would like to thank you for all your posts and the information you share. I have been reading your posts for years and always enjoy reading your detailed and fascinating experiences haha.

I would like to follow up with a few questions specifically related to travels with SBs. Once again, I understand that each SD / SB relationship is unique and each SD's capability and SB's demands will be different. Apologize if you feel some of these questions might be personal so please feel free to ignore them.

I) have you ever had relations sour with a SB if you didn't plan to fly her out business class / premium economy?

II) having traveled with SBs a few times, would you say the experience has been overall worth it for you?

III) and lastly do you think the kind of trip I described in my original post where the SD is spending easily over a minimum of $10 k plus on SB travel are more normal than we would think? Wondering if there are only a certain number of SDs willing to do so and SBs on Seeking would have to compete with others for such SDs. This is just to get an idea and hear from you based on what you might know in your SD circle or experiences you've heard through acquaintances.

My overall aim here is to gather information related to SB travel and then decide for myself if it's truly worth it. I would hate to propose the idea to a favorite SB and then things sour over details / finances involved and to make things worse for it to ruin the existing PPM relationship. Thanks.

[QUOTE=JuliusLad;3033295]Seeking Advice from experienced SDs who have traveled / vacationed with SBs (Latin America experienced preferred).

Hello gents, like many of us, I am a regular SA user. I only subscribe when I'm abroad (strictly Latin America based on all previous trips) and have had some good experiences in CDMX, Bogota, Buenos Aires, and Rio to a lesser extent because in my opinion, there's many other options in a country like Brazil. I have never used SA in the states and have no intention of doing so.

I am seeking advice from gents who have made some good SB connections and have invited them for travel whether it be to Europe / Asia and so on. I fully understand that for a vast majority of SBs, the main priority would be money (more so if they are from South America). However, I have met and I'm sure you gents have come across SBs who have their own careers or are finishing their education and would love to be invited for travel. I am by no means super rich or elite SD status, and I fully understand that maybe travel with SB is not an option for me, however, I would love to hear from your experiences if you have relations and traveled with SBs who don't ask for a monetary arrangement and join for the experience. This would involve the SD paying for travel, accommodation, meals, activities, and let's just say spoiling with some shopping and presents while traveling. As we can already tell, the total spend would amount to a very substantial number.

I would love to hear from experienced SDs here who can shed light on what else I might be missing above and give some examples of what a typical travel monetary arrangement might look like in their own experience and also if there have been times where there hasn't been an arrangement and just a fully paid vacation for the SB instead. I understand this will vary vastly based on the SD and each SB is different but some real numbers would be very helpful.

Before ending this message, I will give an example of a SB I have known for a couple of years in Colombia and I am totally fine with the PPM arrangement we have in place. I have been thinking about inviting her for travel but I have seen that in the last year or so, while she is finishing up her education, she has elevated her game LOL and has been on vacations to the US a couple of times, Mexico, and the latest trip which blew me away was to Europe (London and a couple of cities in Spain). It is without doubt envy on my part but I am just amazed by her trip which I saw on Instagram, she was flown out business class from what I can tell and the accommodation was 5 star hotels in all three cities visited with Michelin star restaurants visited frequently and lots of shopping. Without a doubt, a week long trip like that was easily $10 k plus before any monetary agreement. Please forgive me for sounding envious but I just wanted to mention this experience I have come across, I understand that there will always be far bigger fish out there who spoil these SBs and to be satisfied with the existing PPM as long as its in place and focus on personal growth / achievements to elevate my career rather than waste time and energy on something like this but I felt like sharing this example with the forum.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts in advance (specific examples with monetary amounts would be highly appreciated).[/QUOTE]There was only 1 girl who proved to be reliable enough to consistently keep her word in regards to travel arrangements. That girl has since given birth to the baby of another man. In fact, she found out she was pregnant on our last trip, because she was vomiting everywhere, and thought she had morning sickness, so she took a pregnancy test when we got back to our hotel. Maybe one day when her daughter asks where she was when she first found out she was pregnant, she will get a very interesting story.

I have had multiple other girls balk for any number of reasons. The success rate is VERY low. The only time I would ever advise it, is if money is completely inconsequential to you, AND you don't mind going on the trip alone, as well as not attempting to clean up the mess. By clean up the mess, I mean calling hotels and trying to get your money back on non refundable reservations, or sending documents to your credit card company to support your version of the dispute. You'll spend hours contacting tour operators, transport companies, and everything in between trying to recover from the mess the ***** left behind. So again, if you can spend very large sums of money willy nilly without even giving it a second thought, and are willing to just abandon everything when she comes up with some excuse as to why she can't make it, then yes it might be for you. In any other circumstance, not only is it not worth the financial risk, it's also not worth the headache of dealing with last minute "changes. " You will never be the priority of any one of these girls. They will place family members in front of you, not get to the airport on time, or simply choose to engage in some other activity because they are lazy and stupid. I strongly discourage trying to set up these kinds of arrangements.

Hey guys,

How is Guadalajara Seeking scene? And how is it compared to CDMX? I'm familiar with CDMX, but it seems like it is way overpriced now. Looking for a better value. Not only in terms of the ladies, but also accommodations, restaurants, etc. Plus, I have never been to GDL and new experiences is always a good thing.

[QUOTE=JuliusLad;3033295]Seeking Advice from experienced SDs who have traveled / vacationed with SBs (Latin America experienced preferred).

Hello gents, like many of us, I am a regular SA user. I only subscribe when I'm abroad (strictly Latin America based on all previous trips) and have had some good experiences in CDMX, Bogota, Buenos Aires, and Rio to a lesser extent because in my opinion, there's many other options in a country like Brazil. I have never used SA in the states and have no intention of doing so.

I am seeking advice from gents who have made some good SB connections and have invited them for travel whether it be to Europe / Asia and so on. I fully understand that for a vast majority of SBs, the main priority would be money (more so if they are from South America). However, I have met and I'm sure you gents have come across SBs who have their own careers or are finishing their education and would love to be invited for travel. I am by no means super rich or elite SD status, and I fully understand that maybe travel with SB is not an option for me, however, I would love to hear from your experiences if you have relations and traveled with SBs who don't ask for a monetary arrangement and join for the experience. This would involve the SD paying for travel, accommodation, meals, activities, and let's just say spoiling with some shopping and presents while traveling. As we can already tell, the total spend would amount to a very substantial number.

I would love to hear from experienced SDs here who can shed light on what else I might be missing above and give some examples of what a typical travel monetary arrangement might look like in their own experience and also if there have been times where there hasn't been an arrangement and just a fully paid vacation for the SB instead. I understand this will vary vastly based on the SD and each SB is different but some real numbers would be very helpful..[/QUOTE]1. If there is a good chance she may back out, do not do it! In the USA, half of my SBs backed out, and the excuse was dead father so often that my friends joked every time I made plans for a trip with a SB, there would be a rash of deaths.

2. Why are you doing it? If you are at all uncertain about a woman showing up, you should be in a place where there are other options available. Stupidly, I booked Cancun a few times which has a shit P4 P scene instead of planning a trip to Puerto Vallarta which has a great one.

3. It should not just be about sex. IMO, the woman needs to be great in bed, have an upbeat personality, be fun, and if I am spending some big scratch, she better be really hot. If you do not have that, you are better playing in the beach where you are then bringing in your own sand.

4. How are you or you and her going to be when the unexpectedly bad things happen? If the plane is on the tarmac for 5 hours, is that going to be a time from hell for you or for her? Or is it going to be a chance where you make the best of it and get to know each other?

5. We all have done the airport thing so much, we forget how irrationally and fucked up some of the rules are. Some women skate through the airports no problem. Others, fall on their faces time and again.

Trips will magnify your relationship as you really get to know each other. It can enhance them but for the less than desirable SBs it often meant the end of their time with me as I got to know them more. So trips should be reserved for the SBs you have good or great relationships with versus P4 P types of SBs.

As for other suggestions, I suggest you start domestic and do a quick jaunt before a weeks long one. Tickets are way cheaper and you will get a feel if she is worthy of a longer flight, and the women are not questioned on why they are traveling.

A single attractive girl from a poor country is going to attract suspicion of being trafficked if the country she is flying into cares about those things. Europe does not seem to be an issue, but the Americas, particularly North American countries, are skittish about single female travelers. It is much less of an issue if you accompany her.

Look up wiki and the law, the Mann Act, and see when it has been applied. I do not think anyone gives a damn if you are flying a Latina to Europe or Asia but you should know the law and have plausible deniability if confronted.

Chase has a great deal with British Airways now. I guess it was so good they already have reduced it. With me, it was spend $7500 on anything over 6 months and get 100,000 avios miles. Now it is $5000 over 3 months and 85,000 miles. Avios is mostly European airlines but they have added Qatar Air and as part of the One World alliance you can use Avios on some American Airlines flights.

For most Latinas, flying to Madrid or Barcelona is easiest for them as there is no need for a visa and they speak the language. With a few exceptions like the UK, once you are in Europe, flying around is like flying domestic, and there is no customs nonsense to deal with. Roundtrip to Madrid is 40,000 miles last I checked so you and your lady can fly to Madrid for just the $95 fee the card costs.

With Asia, there are a few flights out of Mexico that a Latina might get on. Thing is unless they have a USA visa going through the USA cannot be done. My gal's daughter is nuts about Korea and it looks like they will first fly to Madrid and then the best choices are through Qatar, Helsinki, or Istanbul. Although shorter time wise, the cost was much more. Cheap airline seats do not bother them but I cannot stand them.

Flights to Asia from the USA were cheap. Thing is there is premium economy that has business class type seats as long as you fly the Asian based airlines like Cathay Pacific or Singapore Airlines. Zip Air has business class type seating, bed like, at premium economy prices, but they have weird rules and flights are mostly to Japan which has tough visa rules. For business class to Europe, JFK in NYC is half the price of other American airports and you should look at Iceland Air or my favorite Azores Airlines as their prices for biz class are way less than competitors. The Azores islands are called the Hawaiian Islands of Europe and even though I have passed through, I wished I could have stayed there longer.

By the way, while you might be there for fun, sex, and company, the women always were wanting to show off. Too often the women were obsessed with lining their Instagram with photos.

It is the rare woman that you are not going to get bored with after a few days, and that is why the most fun trips I ever took were with two or three women. If this interests you, I suggest you do a short trip domestically with two women who are into each other and see how it goes. Funny thing with women is that if they are kissing or worse but it is part of a threesome that does not mean they are dykes but good women trying to please their man. LOL.

If you do the 2 or 3 women trip, don't do two hotel rooms. Get an Airbnb. If you do the 2 hotel rooms, the women may get comfortable in their rooms and hate to leave them.

The trips I took with two and three women were among the most fun things I ever did in my life. On those trips, the women had so much damned fun, they did not even asked to get paid. Of course, I splurged on us having fun. Good luck. And hope that helps.

[QUOTE=JuliusLad;3033359] decide for myself if it's truly worth it. I would hate to propose the idea to a favorite SB and then things sour over details / finances [/QUOTE]I've done many trips with SBs, inc from SoAm.

My first advice would be to start smaller. If your SB is in Colombia, do a weekend beach trip in Colombia. Pay her, have a good time and discuss a trip to Europe. Is she fine flying Economy, do you have a good vibe to spend a week together, is it ok if you can't pay her much etc.

My second advice is to be clear with yourself about what you want to do and why. Her plane tickets to Europe, nicer hotels and restaurants than for yourself alone, plus shopping etc will get expensive.

So if you just want a pretty girl on your arm while you walk around Paris or Madrid, just use Seeking there. Her schedule, her monthly period and many other factors could screw up your expensive EU trip.

Or you're interested in this girl and are looking for a way to convert her from SB to vanilla?

[QUOTE=JuliusLad;3033295]Seeking Advice from experienced SDs who have traveled / vacationed with SBs (Latin America experienced preferred).

Hello gents, like many of us, I am a regular SA user. I only subscribe when I'm abroad (strictly Latin America based on all previous trips) and have had some good experiences in CDMX, Bogota, Buenos Aires, and Rio to a lesser extent because in my opinion, there's many other options in a country like Brazil. I have never used SA in the states and have no intention of doing so...[/QUOTE]Your last paragraph reminded me of myself when I started using SA and feel head over heals over this SB. Rejected all the other POTs, because of this girl, maybe being naive or fresh out of a relationship but man I fancied that girl like anything only to realize it was just a dream. I will tell you why though, it was not the sex I mean at best she was a 6-7 but the affection she bestowed, checking in on you, sharing selfie pics while at work, sharing her life updates and even baking for me. LOL. We both deleted our SA account after we started the arrangement.

Few days before I had planned to take her to a 5* resort in Canary Islands for a surprise I find out she had rejoined SA long back and had another SD paying her 3 X more than what I was paying her.

Boy I was envious and jealous of that guy and then calmed down and realized there is always someone paying them more and giving them more and it is like this endless cycle which goes on and on.

So can definitely relate to how you must have felt.

In order of priority from my EU / UK experience.

1. SB Profiles are just 'profiles' until you meet. Do not fall for the sweet talk from girls pretending to be SBs. If the girl is willing to meet and asking for money upfront first time then most likely she is *not* an SB, she is just another WG.

2. Genuine SBs will have an 'agenda' for asking money upfront. You can be upfront about it and encourage the conversation for e. G how much is your budget and how much you are prepared to spend for her travel and needs. For e. G one girl who I met wanted me to buy her an iphone last year. So yes, if you see her fulfilling her lavish dreams other than of course coming to bed with me- those SBs are gems imo. Needless to mention, she was not great in bed.

3. Genuine SBs don't do clock watching. Another litmust test for WG v SB.

[QUOTE=JuliusLad;3033295]Seeking Advice from experienced SDs who have traveled / vacationed with SBs (Latin America experienced preferred).

Hello gents, like many of us, I am a regular SA user. I only subscribe when I'm abroad (strictly Latin America based on all previous trips) and have had some good experiences in CDMX, Bogota, Buenos Aires, and Rio to a lesser extent because in my opinion, there's many other options in a country like Brazil. I have never used SA in the states and have no intention of doing so.

I am seeking advice from gents who have made some good SB connections and have invited them for travel whether it be to Europe / Asia and so on. I fully understand that for a vast majority of SBs, the main priority would be money (more so if they are from South America). However, I have met and I'm sure you gents have come across SBs who have their own careers or are finishing their education and would love to be invited for travel. I am by no means super rich or elite SD status, and I fully understand that maybe travel with SB is not an option for me, however, I would love to hear from your experiences if you have relations and traveled with SBs who don't ask for a monetary arrangement and join for the experience. This would involve the SD paying for travel, accommodation, meals, activities, and let's just say spoiling with some shopping and presents while traveling. As we can already tell, the total spend would amount to a very substantial number.[/QUOTE]

I often describe Seeking as a massive pile of bullshit with a diamond hidden inside. Found a diamond tonight!

So my home girl G is lotsa fun and a really nice girl. We've been together over a year. But the past couple months she's been fading a bit in the GF department. Yes the sex is still great but the rest of it. The little kisses. The affection. Making out like high schoolers. That all has kinda evaporated like it does with your wife and I already have one of those!

So I've been browsing Seeking from time to time just to see if anything else exists. It's generally a painful and depressing slog in my town and G remains top dog despite her recent shortcomings.

But when I was out with a friend Friday night I was showing him how bad Seeking is locally and came across two girls worth my time. As this never happens, I messaged them both right there in the bar.

A day or two later they both responded but one goes cold right away and the other heats up quick. She's an Indian girl (my first!) who goes to college here locally. We strike up some chat and I quickly move her to text so I don't lose her.

Then, two nights ago we agree we kinda like each other and let's go out! Happened super quick and set the date for tonight. Italian at a vibey place I know that she had not been to.

Leading up to the date, the sex talk is sending mixed signals. She says she's not on birth control because it doesn't agree with her. And I say that's ok I have a vasectomy and she says "Niceeee" so I'm thinking bareback is on. Sweet.

Then, she says can you (me) bring some lube? This sets off little alarm bells because pros need lube but "real girls" don't. But when I think this through more carefully I realize a pro wouldn't ask. And would have their own lube. Maybe she's just a complete newbie? Or one of those girls (rare) that doesn't get wet naturally.

So I respond that she shouldn't need it because I'm going to get her worked up but if she wants it she should get her own because I don't know what she will like. And she says she will get it. Ok. Def not your usual convo with a 25 year old girl.

So we plan our meetup and she shows in some cute pants and a crop top, cut strategically to show her ample cleavage. She has a gorgeous face an 8 or maybe a 9 if you like Indians and those tits are clearly top shelf naturals. Wow. I'm impressed.

You can tell she's nervous because she's very chatty, but I am a pretty masterful first date guy and put her instantly at ease and we have a lovely dinner. She confesses that she's only been on the site a week and I am her first meetup. Said once she started chatting with me she kinda ignored everyone else. Damn. Lucky break to have found her. Because she's smoking hot and innocent as an untouched farm girl. (She later confessed that I am only the third guy she's been with!

She says she gets drunk super easy and she ain't lying. She's loopy halfway into her glass of wine. And fully lit after one glass! After dinner we bounce to the vape store and get her a Geek Bar (she's thrilled because she doesn't have a car and can't get over to the next county where flavored vapes are legal).

After that we bounce to the hotel no questions. For being very new she seems comfortable with this part. Tho when we get in the room she pops under the covers fully clothed. After taking a pee I take the cue and join her fully clothed.

Doesn't take long before she lifts her head and our lips are inches apart and it's on. The French kissing is deep and passionate and I start squeezing what turn out to be the most banging set of perfect tits I've had in a long time. Perfect 34 C and firm and lovely as fuck, with responsive nipples.

Her newness to this is showing but in the best way. Just kissing and tit feeling and she's starting to pant. And once I get her bra off and start sucking those beauties she's a goner! She reaches inside my pants to get at my dick but it's pretty tight down there and before long we are both butt ass naked and ready to rumble.

Normally I'the have her blow me first, but I want to definitely get her sloppy wet so I start a slow descent from licking her nipples or licking her stomach to licking either side of her pussy or just above her clit. This teasing has her grinding and moaning and when I finally reach heaven with my tongue she's a sloppy wet mess. No lube required!

I prob spend about 15 minutes down there and she goes through all the grinding and moaning and ecstasy you might imagine culminating in a small O I don't want the big O to kinda kill things off, so I proceed to position for entry at side of bed.

But even tho she is wet as fuck she is super tight and as I ease in it's hurting her. I've been with a few really tight girls and know the remedy so I flip on my back so she can control the insert.

But first some BJ. She starts a fair BJ. No BLS at first but we fix that. And suction is a bit light but still feels good. Def got to coach her up here but not horrible.

After a bit I pull her up face to face so she can mount cowgirl at her own pace. Nonetheless it's def a struggle and she's grimacing. I coach her to go in a little and back out then in farther and back out. It's maddening but so sexy at the same time. And before you know it I'm balls deep and she's grinding like a pro!

Of course now I want to take control and fuck her and she def relaxed enough for that so I ask her what position she wants to change to and she says mish. Ok. It's on! Mounting up mish she feels heavenly and we make out like fiends while fucking. I fucking love that!

We try The Steve for a while and she seems to really like that. At one point I get one knee on the bed and we are face to face tangling tongues and I think I might get there but it fades.

We take a little break but not for long and snuggle some before I put her back on BJ. I show her harmonica but she's not super good at it. Next time! We do a bit of 69 and then it's doggie with me standing bedside. Fuck she feels really good in doggie, which most girls don't for me. I feel some build but lose it.

Eventually I flop down beside her and we have some quite interesting pillow talk. Since she's only been with three guys including me she has little frame of reference. She asks if she has a good body (yes smoking!) and how does her pussy feel compared to other girls (some are more smooth deep inside and some have more texture. She's the latter.) She finds all this fascinating and frankly it's making me a little hard again. She's also fascinated that I haven't cum yet nearly an hour in and I explain that's the way with older guys.

I had resigned myself to not cumming (need a great BJ) but have an epiphany. She brought lube! Maybe I can wank one out. So I position her at the side of the bed legs spread working her pussy while I wank with the lube.

It feels super good and her pussy is beautiful and frankly she's building to an O and her amazing firm see cups are lightly jostling as she moans and squirms and fuck it's sexy.

But what puts it over the top is when I insert a finger. I keep wanking but start to finger bang her at the same time, finger curled back and hitting her gspot. And damn she is liking this. She stops banging her clit and let's me hit her gspot and she is going nuts. And I am feeling the build. Hacking off while fingering her pussy in rhythm is amazing. I finally I shoot a nice couple shots, hitting my finger banging hand and her pussy a bit. Wow. Amazing finish.

A little more cuddle and pillow talk and we are on our way. Definite repeat! And that the way Seeking is supposed to work! A+.

This isn't really a seeking report. But it's the closest thing to it.

Had the opportunity to spend a week in Manila. First of all, not a great city. It's just big and trafficky and ugly.

Wanted to take out true civilian girls and bang them. So I hit up local dating sites (do your own research) and started putting out feelers to 18-22 year old cute locals. For reasons better in another post, white guys can do quite well in Philippines. There's a cultural unearned advantage.

Anyways as soon as I had a bite I'd move to WhatsApp and ask "so do you know what a sugar daddy is?" Almost all do.

And I'd make an offer that in local terms is seen as almost excessively generous. About 200 dollars to do dinner and spend the night.

Now, most couldn't. They live with their parents and need to be home at night, even as adults. And many pleaded to just be OK staying out late. Some even offered up their friends who had more lax situations at home.

I had time, and patience, and wanted my nights to go well. So I kept my eye on the prize: hot, 18-22, staying the night. This took work. Maybe 30 messages sent per girl to come out the bottom of the funnel.

But goddamn was it worth it.

Two highlights in particular.

One girl who was not as cute in person but was so earnest and innocent. Turned out she'd only had sex with one guy before. She was so self conscious it was actually cute. Was a straight A student who just graduated college and couldn't land her first job and was thankful for the money. She texted me afterwards to ask me if she sexually satisfied me. She wanted to make sure.

The other one was an 18 year old from the province who took a bus 3 hours to meet me. She just wanted to do something out of character. She's bored living in a rural area and I gave her an opportunity to come to a 5 star hotel and be doted on. We ended up spending 2.5 days together. Took her to a museum, to cool restaurants and bars. Bought her some clothes that were so cute but cost very little by American standards.

She was such a tight bone it was crazy. The next day told me she didn't want to tell me she was a virgin because she was afraid I wouldn't want to be with her. I was kinda bummed because if I had known I just would have approached the night differently. It was interesting to see how after 10 sex sessions (we had a lot of sex) a girl goes from being super tight to more or less how she'll be.

It was really sad to leave that behind.

[QUOTE=AmericanPi;3035001]This isn't really a seeking report. But it's the closest thing to it.

Had the opportunity to spend a week in Manila. First of all, not a great city. It's just big and trafficky and ugly.

Wanted to take out true civilian girls and bang them. So I hit up local dating sites (do your own research) and started putting out feelers to 18-22 year old cute locals. For reasons better in another post, white guys can do quite well in Philippines. There's a cultural unearned advantage.

Anyways as soon as I had a bite I'd move to WhatsApp and ask "so do you know what a sugar daddy is?" Almost all do.

And I'd make an offer that in local terms is seen as almost excessively generous. About 200 dollars to do dinner and spend the night.

Now, most couldn't. They live with their parents and need to be home at night, even as adults. And many pleaded to just be OK staying out late. Some even offered up their friends who had more lax situations at home.

I had time, and patience, and wanted my nights to go well. So I kept my eye on the prize: hot, 18-22, staying the night. This took work. Maybe 30 messages sent per girl to come out the bottom of the funnel.

But goddamn was it worth it.

Two highlights in particular.

One girl who was not as cute in person but was so earnest and innocent. Turned out she'd only had sex with one guy before. She was so self conscious it was actually cute. Was a straight A student who just graduated college and couldn't land her first job and was thankful for the money. She texted me afterwards to ask me if she sexually satisfied me. She wanted to make sure.

The other one was an 18 year old from the province who took a bus 3 hours to meet me. She just wanted to do something out of character. She's bored living in a rural area and I gave her an opportunity to come to a 5 star hotel and be doted on. We ended up spending 2.5 days together. Took her to a museum, to cool restaurants and bars. Bought her some clothes that were so cute but cost very little by American standards.

She was such a tight bone it was crazy. The next day told me she didn't want to tell me she was a virgin because she was afraid I wouldn't want to be with her. I was kinda bummed because if I had known I just would have approached the night differently. It was interesting to see how after 10 sex sessions (we had a lot of sex) a girl goes from being super tight to more or less how she'll be.

It was really sad to leave that behind.[/QUOTE]This is 100% the shit we live for! Taking a poor country girl and showing her an amazing time. Dedicated amazing GF for a few days. And then rock on. You banked (banged?) an amazing experience. And will no doubt do it again. Awesome.

Of course many of us love a seeking girl who is very real and not a full time pro. I was just thinking back on the girls I've seen and here is a list of professions. Some of these I've seen multiple girls in that job category.

Waitress.

College Student.

Customer Service Rep.

Yoga Instructor.

Stripper.

Med Student.

Office Manager.

Receptionist.

Care Giver.

Maid.

Law Student.

Gamer. Influencer.

Chemist.

Actress.

Model.

Office Admin.

Cashier.

Claims Specialist.

Retail.

DJ.

PR Specialist.

Amazon warehouse worker.

Purchasing Agent.

Of course the common theme is they don't make a lot of money! But it's been so much fun to have a slice of life with these gorgeous and fun women.

Recently arrived in Bangkok and while the city has cool things to do, it's not exactly comfortable and challenging to find connection here. Most of the women (or people even) I've talked to behave like NPCs (non player characters for those of you who don't play video games), as in you have a very limited number of things you can talk to them about or do with them, but when you try to go beyond this, it doesn't go well. There's only so much sticky rice one can eat before getting tired and looking for greener pastures.

I prefer places where you can walk to get food (preferably organic), walk to the gym, and generally have a good routine which allows for productivity. The best places for me were in Spain and Portugal, where the girls were close to LatAm hot yet the quality of life was European-grade. I have a friend visiting Taiwan in late December so I'd like to stick around but don't think anywhere in this area fits that bill.

- Kuala Lumpur has similarly amazing food to Thailand, but the scene is dead. Their local sugar website, sugar book, seems like a scammy mix between Seeking and OnlyFans.

- Bali seems cool, but you'd have to be ok with scootering everywhere and the injury risk that goes along with that. And paying exorbitant prices for non-local girls.

- Jakarta doesn't seem comfortable to live in, although the Seeking action is there even if the girls are mid-level in looks. I've been traumatized by mosques waking me up at 6:30 am in Muslim countries.

- Vietnam would not be more comfortable than Thailand, and the girls would be more distant.

- Taiwan would be more comfortable, but the girls seem pretty much nonexistent.

- Manila would probably be the best option for Seeking, with cute girls that speak English and communicate well. But the food seems to be straight up bad, like even worse than US food.

- Singapore would probably work, albeit at a high price. Airbnb is banned so I'd have to find a serviced apartment. This might be the only option beyond just hunkering down in Bangkok and finding a reasonably comfy place near the BTS, and accepting the country's limitations?

For those with more experience, did I miss anything?

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;3035448]Recently arrived in Bangkok and while the city has cool things to do, it's not exactly comfortable and challenging to find connection here. Most of the women (or people even) I've talked to behave like NPCs (non player characters for those of you who don't play video games), as in you have a very limited number of things you can talk to them about or do with them, but when you try to go beyond this, it doesn't go well. There's only so much sticky rice one can eat before getting tired and looking for greener pastures.

I prefer places where you can walk to get food (preferably organic), walk to the gym, and generally have a good routine which allows for productivity. The best places for me were in Spain and Portugal, where the girls were close to LatAm hot yet the quality of life was European-grade. I have a friend visiting Taiwan in late December so I'd like to stick around but don't think anywhere in this area fits that bill.

- Kuala Lumpur has similarly amazing food to Thailand, but the scene is dead. Their local sugar website, sugar book, seems like a scammy mix between Seeking and OnlyFans.[/QUOTE]Since I was just in Manila I can speak on this one.

The girls are quite hot, acquiescent, speak English, and require very little money to be considered very generous. Also the city is cheap as hell. You can get a 2 hour massage in a 4 star place for like 30 bucks.

And I disagree about the food. It's true that Filipino food sucks. But I ate that all of zero times. There's plenty of international cuisine at four star places and it can be had cheaply.

Despite all that I don't quite recommend Manila. Why? It's just a boring city. I don't know how to describe it but there's nothing really to do. It's hot and humid, and they have a lot of shopping malls. So many shopping malls. But there are no interesting neighborhoods and nice architecture and things to visit or see or do. Really all there is to do is take girls to dinner and bang them. But apart from that it's just a large nondescript anonymous bland city.

Hmmm, I've been to Asia before, but it's not a frequent repeat for me. Most of the places in that general are are hot and humid year round. Frequent problems with invasive insects, and unless you are super thin, you'll be sweating all the time you are outside, at risk for things like jungle rot, etc. Lots of problems with poor air quality, and that area in general is subject to natural disasters; earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanoes, etc.

Taiwan is actually one of your better options, but because the economic opportunities there are usually good, there's not a lot of women who work in prostitution. They are out there, but you have to dig a little deeper to find them. I think you'll generally find more working girls in the southern and eastern part of the country, but those areas tend to be less developed with less major access to resources.

If I were going to go to a place that has that many problems with traffic, air pollution, and general noise / bustle, I would just go to South America. More risk of armed robbery and similar violent crimes, but everything else is better. Similar time zone, plus Spanish and Portuguese are generally much easier to learn than the Oriental languages.

Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=TedFerguson;3035448]Recently arrived in Bangkok and while the city has cool things to do, it's not exactly comfortable and challenging to find connection here. Most of the women (or people even) I've talked to behave like NPCs (non player characters for those of you who don't play video games), as in you have a very limited number of things you can talk to them about or do with them, but when you try to go beyond this, it doesn't go well. There's only so much sticky rice one can eat before getting tired and looking for greener pastures.

I prefer places where you can walk to get food (preferably organic), walk to the gym, and generally have a good routine which allows for productivity. The best places for me were in Spain and Portugal, where the girls were close to LatAm hot yet the quality of life was European-grade. I have a friend visiting Taiwan in late December so I'd like to stick around but don't think anywhere in this area fits that bill.

- Kuala Lumpur has similarly amazing food to Thailand, but the scene is dead. Their local sugar website, sugar book, seems like a scammy mix between Seeking and OnlyFans.

- Bali seems cool, but you'd have to be ok with scootering everywhere and the injury risk that goes along with that. And paying exorbitant prices for non-local girls.

- Jakarta doesn't seem comfortable to live in, although the Seeking action is there even if the girls are mid-level in looks. I've been traumatized by mosques waking me up at 6:30 am in Muslim countries.

- Vietnam would not be more comfortable than Thailand, and the girls would be more distant.

- Taiwan would be more comfortable, but the girls seem pretty much nonexistent.

- Manila would probably be the best option for Seeking, with cute girls that speak English and communicate well. But the food seems to be straight up bad, like even worse than US food.

- Singapore would probably work, albeit at a high price. Airbnb is banned so I'd have to find a serviced apartment. This might be the only option beyond just hunkering down in Bangkok and finding a reasonably comfy place near the BTS, and accepting the country's limitations?

For those with more experience, did I miss anything?[/QUOTE]

I should mention that I prefer sugar arrangements, prefer to repeat and stay weeks to months if I like a place. This feels much easier in LatAm, but I still wouldn't go back there because the quality of life is just better in Europe and while more digging is required, many Latinas there too. I got Malaysian sugarbook to work yesterday (needed setting my VPN to Kuala Lumpur), and there are at least enough options to try 1 week there. Once I find a VPN which lets me set my location to Taipei (or if I'm there in person), I'll give it a try there as well. I did see some FLs on MassageRepublic claiming they were students in Taipei, although the prices were high (300). Still, to check off Taiwanese girl from the list, it might work.

Regarding Manila, boring sounds perfect More encouragement to work. The concern I have with the food is that the raw ingredients will suck. As I understand it, the Philippines is bad at growing food so they import a lot of it. Imported food just doesn't taste as good as locally fresh. Unlike Bangkok or even Ho Chi Minh City, there are no dedicated organic stores with produce I've found in Manila. Some stuff is sold at higher end supermarkets, but it seems imported. When I look at their restaurants, it literally seems like they copied the US system for food and eating. Which is quite possibly the worst system outside of starvation: the Maybe I'm wrong, and will try to make at least 1 week's time for it.