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[QUOTE=PolyOrchid;2057378]Couldn't agree more, NB. I've been coming to Thailand since the mid-80's and living there most of the time for the past 5 years. I love the Philippines but I prefer a cleaner environment and a country where I can pick from 5-10 great restaurants within a mile. And in the Philippines, I may travel most of the day before finding even one local restaurant I would eat in. I'm no culinary historian and will never understand how two countries with similar climates and geography can have such different food offerings.

But the Pinay, in spite of her horrible diet, continues to be one of the best women in the world. So, your thoughts about living in Thailand with a Pinay (or Indo) GF makes sense to me. All the best in achieving it. And the sooner the better.[/QUOTE]Living in Phuket with a devoted Cambodian GF and a decent pension is even better, IMHO.

[QUOTE=Haokool;2009432]Jeezz, must be a pleasure to do business with you The kind of guy that just doesn't know how to say no.

Morality she will be asking the next chap 50, and he will end-up with a 80 USD bill. 67?

FYI, you'll get a stunner in Europe, the US, and she would rock your world.

Hope you had fun.[/QUOTE]You forgot to copy 'LE Cyrcee is a place to miss. I don't care I paid too much, they can do that once: I won't go back'.

[QUOTE=Nokbkk;2058539]You forgot to copy 'LE Cyrcee is a place to miss. I don't care I paid too much, they can do that once: I won't go back'.[/QUOTE]You didn't get ripped off by LE cyrcee. You were charged the going rate there for some time. Tipping and hourly room were your choice.

10 barfine 40 short time pretty standard at most pp bars if you want someone under 25 and decent looking. Drinks can vary but I don't recall le cyrcee prices being inflated for drinks.

I like le cyrcee since price is never discussed with the girl. If only I liked more girls there.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2058820]You didn't get ripped off by LE cyrcee. You were charged the going rate there for some time. Tipping and hourly room were your choice.

10 barfine 40 short time pretty standard at most pp bars if you want someone under 25 and decent looking. Drinks can vary but I don't recall le cyrcee prices being inflated for drinks.

I like le cyrcee since price is never discussed with the girl. If only I liked more girls there.[/QUOTE]Yes, it was the going rate. But Cyrcee is overpriced. I never go there now. It is so easy to find better and more cheap women in other bars.

[QUOTE=MeoDen;2053817]I have never seen a sign at 252. Is it possible that some punters are taking tukuks there and the driver is calling ahead to get commission, then the staff quickly stick a bogus sign on the desk?[/QUOTE]At 252 this week. As I was leaving an older black guy came in with a tuktuk driver. I overheard 'dop-bram' ($15) mentioned and it was like feeding time at the zoo. The women in the fish bowl were waving and smiling, even the colder bitches who tend to sit on the lower right side. The cashier gave me the nod to pay my $7 quickly while the new customer's back was turned.

It looked very like the women were tipped off to the effect that the new guy was a rube: like I said, if they see you being charged double for the room, they will more likely hold out for double for themselves.

FTR I had a good experience, got everything I wanted and paid the girl $25.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;2057200]I do not live in PP nor do I speak Khmer. Neither am I under 30 but over 50. The difference. I exercise and workout and am in very good shape and look younger and good looking. I wear good quality designer clothes and shower enough. I smell good. Next, I am pleasant and respectful to everyone, not just the WGs. I have been to Cambodia from top (Siem Reap) to bottom (Snookey) many times. I do not have to go to places like newbees like you and pay a lot more for pussy that is available cheaper everywhere else. I think you failed in every respect and have to pay high prices. Neither do I have to go across town and wait till 3. 00 AM. My usually with a woman no later than 10.00 pm or 11.00 pm at the latest. Enjoy life.[/QUOTE]I hear you on this one. I am pushing 60, but I and jog each day except for the days I work out at the gym. I eat healthy, take my vitamins and pay close attention to my grooming. I also wear nice clothes and understand well that the older you get, the harder it is for you to dress sloppy or forgo good grooming without looking like a bum. Its true. I can't wear the same clothes as a 20-something (not that I would I want to) but I can also capitalize on my age by dressing nicely in a fashion that also makes one look both stylish and dignified. You won't see me in shorts, t-shirt and sandals unless I am on a beach. I also try to be respectful to all locals and watch my level of intoxication. The only people who like a drunk are those ready to take advantage of a drunk. And I was told long before I ever became a monger that if you are drunk, you will always pay more.

I was a total newbie in Thailand last fall, yet in BKK and Patts, I ended paying the lower end of the price range. I did not have to negotiate hard, I simply negotiated and I did it politely, while walking away from girls who assumed I didn't know what the going rate was. I had similar luck in the DR last February. Clearly we are doing something right.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;2057200]I do not live in PP nor do I speak Khmer. Neither am I under 30 but over 50. The difference. I exercise and workout and am in very good shape and look younger and good looking. I wear good quality designer clothes and shower enough. I smell good. Next, I am pleasant and respectful to everyone, not just the WGs. I have been to Cambodia from top (Siem Reap) to bottom (Snookey) many times. I do not have to go to places like newbees like you and pay a lot more for pussy that is available cheaper everywhere else. I think you failed in every respect and have to pay high prices. Neither do I have to go across town and wait till 3. 00 AM. My usually with a woman no later than 10.00 pm or 11.00 pm at the latest. Enjoy life.[/QUOTE]And yet here you are in Cambodia, and not in your homeland having your choice of all available alpha females. The difference: you're in a country poor with an unfortunate recent past, but full of impoverished women. Sheesh, another charmer who's lost all sense of reality.

Has anyone been there? They have pretty good looking girls when driving by, but I've never gone in. Any advice would be great.

Just got back from PP. Really really really loved the city. Girls are super sweet, not pushy (for drinks or anything basically) and overall a good time. Oh and they have many more games in the bars then the ones in Thailand haha. Seeing the poverty sometimes get's real sad tho. I have a hard time sometimes handling such things and you do notice a lot of it here compared to some other places but well. That's for other forums.

Note do: I stayed at Sun&Moon hotel which is perfectly located and of course has the great Skybar / pool. Tell a girl your staying there and she will def. Happily come with you. Altho in PP not all girls even want to be barfined (or like many have mentioned are very selective).

Now Sun&Moon has amazing staff but if you want to take a girl it will cost you 10 USD $. But. If you take a girl back before midnight just walk in and they usually won't say anything or say you are going to the skybar and then you can just take her to your room without the fine. After midnight when walking in they will call you and you will have to fill in your details and she will have too and leave ID. They do call in the morning 'if it's okay your girlfriend can leave'. Now at the end bill they didn't put any 10 $ fines on it. Maybe they removed it because I spend a considerable amount in F&B or they just do a bad admin. Hotel is def worth the money tho so stay there if you'd like the look / price of it.

[QUOTE=CarnaTj;2067332]Has anyone been there? They have pretty good looking girls when driving by, but I've never gone in. Any advice would be great.[/QUOTE]Do you mean 'V' KTV (the 12 storey brown and cream building)?

I had a look at the massage on the 8th floor. One hour body massage $8. Didn't see any private rooms, only communal areas. Was told there were five masseuses but wasn't shown any (in the afternoon). No fishbowl selection. Only saw cashier. No English spoken.

Where did you see the girls, and at what time?

[QUOTE=MeoDen;2068317]Do you mean 'V' KTV (the 12 storey brown and cream building)?

I had a look at the massage on the 8th floor. One hour body massage $8. Didn't see any private rooms, only communal areas. Was told there were five masseuses but wasn't shown any (in the afternoon). No fishbowl selection. Only saw cashier. No English spoken.

Where did you see the girls, and at what time?[/QUOTE]Yes, that one. Usually after about 8:00 pm the girls are all sitting downstairs so you can see them through the front doors. I talked to one of the "security" guys and he said you can have any of the girls for KTV, massage or they can go with you to the sky bar. I haven't seen anything about this place or East Massage on any message boards, although they are always busy. So

[QUOTE=DCups;2056905]Hi Natty,

I've been reading all your recent posts about your travels. If I understand you correctly the two best places in terms of overall quality and lower price are are still PI and Indonesia, right? It appears Thailand and Cambodia have gotten as expensive as Vietnam (which I no longer go to because they all want minimum $100/ night now). Even Burma has gotten more expensive. In contrast I can still go to Dominican Republic for some real fine snatch and giant boobs for about $50/ night. By the way clear out your inbox.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]I travel a lot and live in quite a few different places and almost everywhere I go the norm circa 2017 seems to be US $100 give or take.

Girls in Budapest used to be about $12 k Forints now $25 k ($100 approx), Morocco 500 Dhs now 1000 Dhs ($100 approx), PP for quality it is $100, broads in Hanoi, Saigon and other in Vietnam were asking $100++, Kiev for quality women it seems to start at $100+, rub and tug in Australia $70 for massage and $30 for the tug = $100, Costa Rica glamours want $100 LT yada yada yada.

I try to stand firm to my prices but I am no longer a Robert Redford type so like others here mentioned I have to pay $100 (YMMV). I used to get GFE and semi-pro action in most cities but that works out way more expensive even over a 1 week period.

At least in Pontoon and DD etc there are some absolute glamours that perform at a level worthy of $100. Had one young lass 4-5 times in a 15 hour session this week (from DD) and I had to throw her out because I wanted to watch the pre-season ARS-CHE game. I gave her $104 total as it was all I had left.

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[QUOTE=Belvaros;2068652]I travel a lot and live in quite a few different places and almost everywhere I go the norm circa 2017 seems to be US $100 give or take.

Girls in Budapest used to be about $12 k Forints now $25 k ($100 approx), Morocco 500 Dhs now 1000 Dhs ($100 approx), PP for quality it is $100, broads in Hanoi, Saigon and other in Vietnam were asking $100++, Kiev for quality women it seems to start at $100+, rub and tug in Australia $70 for massage and $30 for the tug = $100, Costa Rica glamours want $100 LT yada yada yada.

I try to stand firm to my prices but I am no longer a Robert Redford type so like others here mentioned I have to pay $100 (YMMV). I used to get GFE and semi-pro action in most cities but that works out way more expensive even over a 1 week period.

At least in Pontoon and DD etc there are some absolute glamours that perform at a level worthy of $100. Had one young lass 4-5 times in a 15 hour session this week (from DD) and I had to throw her out because I wanted to watch the pre-season ARS-CHE game. I gave her $104 total as it was all I had left.[/QUOTE]To Belavarlo.

Mongering is up everywhere in the world the first time in PP 15 yr ago I can get Viet girl at low end brothel everywhere in town for 3-5 usd and you can get girl at the Martini for 15 usd a night whose days are over.

Fast Eddie 48.

[QUOTE=CarnaTj;2068555]Yes, that one. Usually after about 8:00 pm the girls are all sitting downstairs so you can see them through the front doors. I talked to one of the "security" guys and he said you can have any of the girls for KTV, massage or they can go with you to the sky bar. I haven't seen anything about this place or East Massage on any message boards, although they are always busy. So[/QUOTE]All you can do is go at night and ask the prices. I wouldn't have high hopes but you don't know if you don't try.

They charge $20 for a ST room. $15 for an oil massage. Their mission statement is 'By researching, practicing and promoting Cambodian cuisine, we aim to safeguard the nation's food heritage for years to come!

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