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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2968084]I think that is more a Medellin thing and not a Colombian thing. My ex-girlfriend from Valledupar went to Medellin to find work and after 1 month she was out of that place. Even as a Colombian, that Medellin culture was too much for her. I never took to Medellin the way I have taken to other Colombian cities. I have never had any problem with the chicks I have dealt with over the years cheating or already having a boyfriend or having dealt with foreigners before. If you want a hooker, go to Medellin. If you want a normal Colombian woman for a traditional relationship, then go to other cities. But as has been said before, you will be at a disadvantage if you do not speak Spanish, especially in this social media attention-seeking age.[/QUOTE]What I have seen is that a lot of these "relationships" don't last not because of language or culture differences. But because the relationship is made up of desperation on both ends.
Oh one side, you have a paisa that is dirt poor. She is looking for someone to support her and her kid (s). She is young and like many of the girls, above average in looks and great in bed.
She is willing to "sacrifice" herself to an old foreigner that under normal circumstances she would not give the time of day to.
On the foreigner side, you often have an old out of shape, desperate for attention foreigner that feels like he is Rockefeller in Medellin because of the low cost of living and price of pussy.
It just doesn't last as there is no true love, strictly a monetary and a companion need between 2 people.
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[QUOTE=IamLookin;2968140]What I have seen is that a lot of these "relationships" don't last not because of language or culture differences. But because the relationship is made up of desperation on both ends.
Oh one side, you have a paisa that is dirt poor. She is looking for someone to support her and her kid (s). She is young and like many of the girls, above average in looks and great in bed.
She is willing to "sacrifice" herself to an old foreigner that under normal circumstances she would not give the time of day to.
On the foreigner side, you often have an old out of shape, desperate for attention foreigner that feels like he is Rockefeller in Medellin because of the low cost of living and price of pussy.
It just doesn't last as there is no true love, strictly a monetary and a companion need between 2 people.[/QUOTE]The killer for those type of relationships is the endgame. How does the young lady get out of the relationship with money to live on? Or, what happens when the guy kicks off and leaves his money to his family? Sometimes the lady will produce a baby in the hopes that the baby inherits the foreigner's money. Unless the foreigner insists on a DNA test. Oops.
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[QUOTE=IamLookin;2968140]What I have seen is that a lot of these "relationships" don't last not because of language or culture differences. But because the relationship is made up of desperation on both ends.
Oh one side, you have a paisa that is dirt poor. She is looking for someone to support her and her kid (s). She is young and like many of the girls, above average in looks and great in bed.
She is willing to "sacrifice" herself to an old foreigner that under normal circumstances she would not give the time of day to.
On the foreigner side, you often have an old out of shape, desperate for attention foreigner that feels like he is Rockefeller in Medellin because of the low cost of living and price of pussy.
It just doesn't last as there is no true love, strictly a monetary and a companion need between 2 people.[/QUOTE]Again, you are talking about a Medellin thing. I have never had a normal chick from another city that is not a hooker asking me about paying their bills or feeding their family or taking them away from it all. This is apples and bowling balls. Don't sign up for a hooker or someone to use you if that is not what you want.
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[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2968144]The killer for those type of relationships is the endgame. How does the young lady get out of the relationship with money to live on? Or, what happens when the guy kicks off and leaves his money to his family? Sometimes the lady will produce a baby in the hopes that the baby inherits the foreigner's money. Unless the foreigner insists on a DNA test. Oops.[/QUOTE]The killer is also that most of the guys looking for a legitimate relationship are interacting with pros or semi-pros. That's not going to work. If you live there, if you speak Spanish, if you date non-hooker women that are within 15 years of your age, you can establish a legitimate LT relationship (pretty much like in the US or Europe).
Mixing mongering with trying to establish a LT relationship is hazardous.
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The Relationship Fallacy
I've been coming to Medellin for the past 7 years now, post divorce from a really bad and largely sex-less marriage, and getting my kids into college. I eventually started a business here with an office to support my business and clients in the USA, which is going well, so now I have a reason to be here beyond mongering.
I did have the thought that I might eventually meet a proper woman here, that would meet my superficial requirements in looks and age and also be kind, good hearted and reasonably intelligent. I've dated a few women along that vein but for different reasons it hasn't really worked out. Actually, in the 3 cases I can recall, I spent time and money (dinners, Pueblo visits, trip to Guatape, etc) and did not even get laid.
Meanwhile, I've had amazing times with the young semi pros I've met here on Tinder and Bumble, and lived out about every sexual fantasy imaginable. Last night one young Paisa I'm familiar with brought her friend over and I had an awesome time getting tag teamed by them last night and again this morning. Before they left they cleaned up my apartment. I gave them their 'gifts' and sent them on my way.
I then had a free Sunday, unencumbered to do some personal things, cook, chill and watch NFL. I think to myself, why the hell would I pursue any kind of proper relationship. I'm not giving this lifestyle up! This is why I got divorced! I think the romantic side in many of us may wonder if we could be truly happy in a committed, monogamous relationship. However, I think it's an unrealistic fantasy. Besides, from the fact we are all on this message board, I would think we all share a common aversion for monogamy and a strong interest in banging a variety hot young women.
I appreciate all the great info and insights on this board and will try to contribute more.
Cheers, Chiksika.
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[QUOTE=Combo;2968211]The killer is also that most of the guys looking for a legitimate relationship are interacting with pros or semi-pros. That's not going to work. If you live there, if you speak Spanish, if you date non-hooker women that are within 15 years of your age, you can establish a legitimate LT relationship (pretty much like in the US or Europe).
Mixing mongering with trying to establish a LT relationship is hazardous.[/QUOTE]Excellent point.
You have to remember, a lot of men that come to sex tourist locations disproportionately are complete idiots and simps. I have seen women who sleep with 5 guys a week, get wifed up, even if only temporarily, with a loser who's been sending them 100's of dollars a week. And when their relationship collapses, because he finds out that she's still been sleeping with other guys on the side for extra money or has real Colombian boyfriend, the guy finds another prostitute to repeat the same process. Complete idiots, man. Picking a sex tourist destination for a wife is imbecilic behavior.
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[QUOTE=ChikSika;2968255]I think to myself, why the hell would I pursue any kind of proper relationship. I'm not giving this lifestyle up! This is why I got divorced! I think the romantic side in many of us may wonder if we could be truly happy in a committed, monogamous relationship. [/QUOTE]Who says a committed relationship has to be monogamous?
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[QUOTE=Hobo3;2968304]You have to remember, a lot of men that come to sex tourist locations disproportionately are complete idiots and simps. I have seen women who sleep with 5 guys a week, get wifed up, even if only temporarily, with a loser who's been sending them 100's of dollars a week. And when their relationship collapses, because he finds out that she's still been sleeping with other guys on the side for extra money or has real Colombian boyfriend, the guy finds another prostitute to repeat the same process. Complete idiots, man. Picking a sex tourist destination for a wife is imbecilic behavior.[/QUOTE]I do not see picking a sex tourist destination as being a problem to find a wife. The problem comes in who you are choosing to be your wife. If you have to send someone anywhere hundreds of dollars each week, then that should be your clue. In my experience a real girlfriend is not asking you to send her shit.
A couple of years ago in a facebook group for another country, a guy asked how much money should he give his girlfriend every month. Some people rattled of an amount. Very few people said if you have to give her money then she ain't your girlfriend. The guy finally reported back saying that he told the girl he would give her $300/ month. She told him that was not enough. Duh. That was because he was trying to rent a hooker long term instead of finding a chick that would be an actual help mate.
I am not trying to say there is a problem playing sugar daddy to a sugar baby, but don't pull the wool over your own eyes by calling the situation what it is not.
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Most of the guys on this site are elderly gents who bang young hot pros. So it goes without saying that such guys willing to settle down will want to do so with young hot chicas. Even if the chicas are not pros the relationship will be fraught with difficulty. It would be interesting to know the success rate of such marriages.
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Snoop said it best way back in the 90's. "you can't turn a hoe into a housewife. "
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2968160]Again, you are talking about a Medellin thing. I have never had a normal chick from another city that is not a hooker asking me about paying their bills or feeding their family or taking them away from it all. This is apples and bowling balls. Don't sign up for a hooker or someone to use you if that is not what you want.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2968415]Most of the guys on this site are elderly gents who bang young hot pros. So it goes without saying that such guys willing to settle down will want to do so with young hot chicas. Even if the chicas are not pros the relationship will be fraught with difficulty. It would be interesting to know the success rate of such marriages.[/QUOTE]Some of us are in our mid thirties.
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[QUOTE=TradeMarc69;2967821]I won't get into too many details and just get straight to the point. So what started as just me and my girlfriend has now expanded into my girlfriend and some of her friends and her sisters friends and now I'm up to about 9 people and we all need a place to meet for a group session. I'm having a very difficult time finding a place for this encounter to occur. My girlfriends apartment is too small for such a thing to occur so it would need to be elsewhere. Does anyone have any good ideas here? I'm stuck. I don't see a hotel that would allow so many visitors.[/QUOTE]A zillion AirBnb places will handle you nicely and cost you less once you divide it by everyone.
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[QUOTE=CK465;2967768]I know this is a mongering forum but has anybody really found a life partner in Colombia? I mean, going down there to find a potential wife is REALLY slim. Especially since cheating is accepted over there along with the high baby momma ratio but I personally would seek out a wife, a FWB or fuck buddy, but a wife, not so much. The closest that may make me fall in love is a Venezolana though. I've had zero issues with them and they treat me like a king as a black man. I don't dislike Paisas but those Vennies got me though. There a fat ass street MILF who goes by Chella and I see her on 60% of the walk videos on Youtube XD but she was an awesome both times.[/QUOTE]Interestingly enough, I discovered Medellin from a buddy in Florida who married a girl who used to work there (at the now closed Mansion) over 12-14 years ago. They were both into the swinging lifestyle, no kids, and I think that is key to their happiness too. 30 year age difference (he mid 60's, she mid 30's -- so they must have met when she was 18 and him in his late 40's / early 50's) and after 10 years together they were still like teenagers in love. They both jointly told me all about the Medellin scene (which they still fly back to often to play). So, you can find true love, but I think it has more to do with YOU than HER. I. E. It takes a certain personality to find the right woman and give her a life that is fulfilling in a way that keeps her and him satisfied. In their case was to become active in swinging, nudist, and such lifestyles. His and her 'party' world never ended after marriage.
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[QUOTE=ChikSika;2968255]I've been coming to Medellin for the past 7 years now, post divorce from a really bad and largely sex-less marriage, and getting my kids into college. I eventually started a business here with an office to support my business and clients in the USA, which is going well, so now I have a reason to be here beyond mongering.
I did have the thought that I might eventually meet a proper woman here, that would meet my superficial requirements in looks and age and also be kind, good hearted and reasonably intelligent. I've dated a few women along that vein but for different reasons it hasn't really worked out. Actually, in the 3 cases I can recall, I spent time and money (dinners, Pueblo visits, trip to Guatape, etc) and did not even get laid.
Meanwhile, I've had amazing times with the young semi pros I've met here on Tinder and Bumble, and lived out about every sexual fantasy imaginable. Last night one young Paisa I'm familiar with brought her friend over and I had an awesome time getting tag teamed by them last night and again this morning. Before they left they cleaned up my apartment. I gave them their 'gifts' and sent them on my way.
Cheers, Chiksika.[/QUOTE]You already had kids, so you likely have no reason to be in a "committed relationship" with anyone. Seems like the perfect situation.
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[QUOTE=CK465;2967768]I know this is a mongering forum but has anybody really found a life partner in Colombia? I mean, going down there to find a potential wife is REALLY slim. Especially since cheating is accepted over there along with the high baby momma ratio but I personally would seek out a wife, a FWB or fuck buddy, but a wife, not so much. The closest that may make me fall in love is a Venezolana though. I've had zero issues with them and they treat me like a king as a black man. I don't dislike Paisas but those Vennies got me though. There a fat ass street MILF who goes by Chella and I see her on 60% of the walk videos on Youtube XD but she was an awesome both times.[/QUOTE]I've been with the same Colombian woman for 19 years, we have a child together and she is a wonderful woman, she is 40 and I'm 67. It is not a monogamous relationship on my end, not sure on her end. I couldn't be happier.